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date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 11:35:35 +0100,    group: uk.net.providers.aaisp        back       
The 0.0.0.0 IP problem   
I gather this is a common problem at the moment - the ADSL drops out,
and when the router tries to reconnect it appears to do so. But in fact
it is just sitting there uselessly with an IP of 0.0.0.0. Power cycling
a few times usually results in a proper connection eventually.

I realise I have all my routers left set to "Dynamic IP". Would it help
to force the IP to the "WAN address"?

-- 

John Devereux
date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 11:35:35 +0100   author:   John Devereux

Re: The 0.0.0.0 IP problem   
In article , John Devereux 
 wrote
>
>I gather this is a common problem at the moment - the ADSL drops out,
>and when the router tries to reconnect it appears to do so. But in fact
>it is just sitting there uselessly with an IP of 0.0.0.0. Power cycling
>a few times usually results in a proper connection eventually.
>
>I realise I have all my routers left set to "Dynamic IP". Would it help
>to force the IP to the "WAN address"?

I don't think that doing so brings any advantage when things are working 
properly - if your router manages to authenticate and start a PPP 
session then AAISP's server will tell it what its IP address is.

When things are not working, then hard-wiring the router IP tends to 
make it harder to work out what's going on, e.g. to distinguish between 
the all-zeroes case and 172.*.*.* case when BT give you a dummy PPP 
session.

-- 
Bob Evans
date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:13:42 +0100   author:   Bob Evans

Re: The 0.0.0.0 IP problem   
Bob Evans  writes:

> In article , John Devereux
>  wrote
>>
>>I gather this is a common problem at the moment - the ADSL drops out,
>>and when the router tries to reconnect it appears to do so. But in fact
>>it is just sitting there uselessly with an IP of 0.0.0.0. Power cycling
>>a few times usually results in a proper connection eventually.
>>
>>I realise I have all my routers left set to "Dynamic IP". Would it help
>>to force the IP to the "WAN address"?
>
> I don't think that doing so brings any advantage when things are
> working properly - if your router manages to authenticate and start a
> PPP session then AAISP's server will tell it what its IP address is.

Aha, I see. I was thinking BT was solely responsible for that for some
reason. So should I be pressing the "Kill BT" or the "Kill LNS" button?

> When things are not working, then hard-wiring the router IP tends to
> make it harder to work out what's going on, e.g. to distinguish
> between the all-zeroes case and 172.*.*.* case when BT give you a
> dummy PPP session.

OK, thanks. I Haven't actually seen the 172.* case yet but only needed
to be looking at this stuff recently :(

-- 

John Devereux
date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:43:38 +0100   author:   John Devereux

Re: The 0.0.0.0 IP problem   
John Devereux wrote:
> I gather this is a common problem at the moment - the ADSL drops out,
> and when the router tries to reconnect it appears to do so. But in fact
> it is just sitting there uselessly with an IP of 0.0.0.0. Power cycling
> a few times usually results in a proper connection eventually.
> 
> I realise I have all my routers left set to "Dynamic IP". Would it help
> to force the IP to the "WAN address"?

I always have my router hard coded to my main WAN address. This should stop BT 
from connecting me to a "parking" IP after a disconnection, which used to be a 
real pain since it would stay connected there until manually reset, so I had to 
keep resetting until my AA IP address re-appeared.

However, not all routers seem necessarily to obey the hard coding. My Zyxel 
P-660HW-D1 and its predecessor -61 seem to work OK, but on two previous routers 
(Binatone and a generic Conexant) I sometimes got connected to the BT cul de 
sac regardless.
date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:35:38 +0100   author:   Alfred E Neuman

Re: The 0.0.0.0 IP problem   
Alfred E Neuman  wrote:
> John Devereux wrote:
>> I gather this is a common problem at the moment - the ADSL drops out,
>> and when the router tries to reconnect it appears to do so. But in fact
>> it is just sitting there uselessly with an IP of 0.0.0.0. Power cycling
>> a few times usually results in a proper connection eventually.
>> 
>> I realise I have all my routers left set to "Dynamic IP". Would it help
>> to force the IP to the "WAN address"?
> 
> I always have my router hard coded to my main WAN address. This should stop BT 
> from connecting me to a "parking" IP after a disconnection, which used to be a 
> real pain since it would stay connected there until manually reset, so I had to 
> keep resetting until my AA IP address re-appeared.

Yup, I'd highly recommend hardcoding your PPP link address. It's bloody
rude of BT to assign you one of these dummy IP addresses, to be honest.

-- 
Dominic Hargreaves | http://www.larted.org.uk/~dom/
PGP key 5178E2A5 from the.earth.li (keyserver,web,email)
date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:44:24 +0000 (UTC)   author:   Dominic Hargreaves

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