In the unlikely event that anyone was wondering why I had stopped
posting to ulm, I hadn't - though I have now. Nothing I have sent to
the group for more than a week has made it as far as the moderation
queue. I gather that things are unlikely to improve until Richard
finishes rewriting the modbot, which doesn't sound like a simple job.
In any case, I have had enough of throwing my words of wisdom (or not,
as the case may be) down a black hole. To avoid pointless frustration,
I will not be reading the group either. I assume that someone will
post here when/if it is working again.

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In uk.net.news.moderation on Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:13:27 +0000, Don Aitken
 wrote:

}In the unlikely event that anyone was wondering why I had stopped
}posting to ulm, I hadn't - though I have now. Nothing I have sent to
}the group for more than a week has made it as far as the moderation
}queue. I gather that things are unlikely to improve until Richard
}finishes rewriting the modbot, which doesn't sound like a simple job.
}In any case, I have had enough of throwing my words of wisdom (or not,
}as the case may be) down a black hole. To avoid pointless frustration,
}I will not be reading the group either. I assume that someone will
}post here when/if it is working again.

Well it is the new code that is apparently broken :(

This post 86456 did reach the modbot and was auto moderated and yet I
cannot see it in uklm. This is very very worrying as the new code was meant
to be better :(

I will change it to multipost

{R}



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On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 17:15:10 +0000, "Iain"  wrote:

>Hi,
>
>A couple of days ago I had a visit from the benefits section of my local
>council.  She asked to see bank statements (I have 2 bank accounts).  What I
>didn't realise until some minutes aftwards that she had written down the
>bank name, sort code and account number, as well as the balance.  When I
>questioned it, she replied in the sort of manner that it was standard
>policy.  But nonetheless, my permission was not sought before it was taken.
>Although at the end I did (reluctantly) sign the papers.
>
>My question is, 'Is this information taken by the council excessive?'
>
>I suppose that this would refer to things such as the Data Protection Act,
>and and also various prevention of fraud legislation.
>
I have never understand why people get so paranoid about this
information. The sort code and account number appear on every cheque
you write. You should assume that they are public knowledge. Knowing
them will not, short of serious malpractice by your bank, enable
anyone to obtain any confidential information.

-- 
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In message , at 22:23:43 on 
Thu, 26 Jan 2006, {R}  wibbled
>In uk.net.news.moderation on Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:13:27 +0000, Don Aitken
> wrote:
>
>}In the unlikely event that anyone was wondering why I had stopped
>}posting to ulm, I hadn't - though I have now. Nothing I have sent to
>}the group for more than a week has made it as far as the moderation
>}queue.
[..]
>
>Well it is the new code that is apparently broken :(
>
>This post 86456 did reach the modbot and was auto moderated and yet I
>cannot see it in uklm. This is very very worrying as the new code was meant
>to be better :(
>

It reached news.gazeta.pl if it's any use (news.mx2.org.uk is just my 
local machine):

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On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 22:23:43 +0000, {R}  wrote:

>In uk.net.news.moderation on Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:13:27 +0000, Don Aitken
> wrote:
>
>}In the unlikely event that anyone was wondering why I had stopped
>}posting to ulm, I hadn't - though I have now. Nothing I have sent to
>}the group for more than a week has made it as far as the moderation
>}queue. I gather that things are unlikely to improve until Richard
>}finishes rewriting the modbot, which doesn't sound like a simple job.
>}In any case, I have had enough of throwing my words of wisdom (or not,
>}as the case may be) down a black hole. To avoid pointless frustration,
>}I will not be reading the group either. I assume that someone will
>}post here when/if it is working again.
>
>Well it is the new code that is apparently broken :(
>
>This post 86456 did reach the modbot and was auto moderated and yet I
>cannot see it in uklm. This is very very worrying as the new code was meant
>to be better :(
>
>I will change it to multipost
>
A whole bunch of my posts have now appeared, having been hung up
somewhere for up to five or six days. People are now doubtless
wondering why I am duplicating information supplied days ago by
others. Still, this is progress - I will stick with it and see how
things go.

-- 
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Mail to the From: address is not read.
To email me, substitute "clara.co.uk" for "freeuk.com"

In uk.net.news.moderation on Fri, 27 Jan 2006 00:32:07 +0000, Don Aitken
 wrote:

}A whole bunch of my posts have now appeared, having been hung up
}somewhere for up to five or six days. People are now doubtless
}wondering why I am duplicating information supplied days ago by
}others. Still, this is progress - I will stick with it and see how
}things go.

Yes sorry I should have said, that was me; I went to the history and found
about 5 that hadn't posted so I posted them :(

We now post though supernews and gradwell and I am still looking for a
third free, preferably, place that I can post the articles.

The post is with News::NNTP and just needs reader access.

{R}

In uk.net.news.moderation on Thu, 26 Jan 2006 23:57:03 +0000, Pedt <"\"@
@\""@user-unknown.mx2.org.uk> wrote:

}In message , at 22:23:43 on 
}Thu, 26 Jan 2006, {R}  wibbled
}>This post 86456 did reach the modbot and was auto moderated and yet I
}>cannot see it in uklm. This is very very worrying as the new code was meant
}>to be better :(
}>
}
}It reached news.gazeta.pl if it's any use (news.mx2.org.uk is just my 
}local machine):
}
}Path: 
}news.mx2.org.uk!news.gazeta.pl!newsfeed.gazeta.pl!newsfeed.pionier.net.pl
}!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news.germany.com!solnet.ch!solnet.ch!z
}en.net.uk!dedekind.zen.co.uk!news-peer-lilac.gradwell.net!not-for-mail

No that is a repost through gradwell, the original went in to supernews.

{R}

"Don Aitken"  wrote in message 
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> On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 22:23:43 +0000, {R}  wrote:
>
>>In uk.net.news.moderation on Thu, 26 Jan 2006 18:13:27 +0000, Don Aitken
>> wrote:
>>
>>}In the unlikely event that anyone was wondering why I had stopped
>>}posting to ulm, I hadn't - though I have now. Nothing I have sent to
>>}the group for more than a week has made it as far as the moderation
>>}queue. I gather that things are unlikely to improve until Richard
>>}finishes rewriting the modbot, which doesn't sound like a simple job.
>>}In any case, I have had enough of throwing my words of wisdom (or not,
>>}as the case may be) down a black hole. To avoid pointless frustration,
>>}I will not be reading the group either. I assume that someone will
>>}post here when/if it is working again.
>>
>>Well it is the new code that is apparently broken :(
>>
>>This post 86456 did reach the modbot and was auto moderated and yet I
>>cannot see it in uklm. This is very very worrying as the new code was 
>>meant
>>to be better :(
>>
>>I will change it to multipost
>>
> A whole bunch of my posts have now appeared, having been hung up
> somewhere for up to five or six days. People are now doubtless
> wondering why I am duplicating information supplied days ago by
> others. Still, this is progress - I will stick with it and see how
> things go.


I recently had a post that languished on the modbot for over five & a half 
days, I brought it to the notice of the mods. & Richard 'pushed' it through. 
Despite that it failed to appear (on my screen at least), due to a failure 
to propagate. I don't feel I'm able to contribute a great deal to the group 
but I do value your contributions Don & hope you'll persevere through what, 
I have no doubt, is just a temporary situation.

Regards.
Joe Lee

> Don Aitken
> Mail to the From: address is not read.
> To email me, substitute "clara.co.uk" for "freeuk.com"