Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

-- 
Don Aitken
Mail to the From: address is not read.
To email me, substitute "clara.co.uk" for "freeuk.com"

Don Aitken wrote...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something?

-- 
Adam Upham.

Don Aitken wrote...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something?

-- 
Adam Upham.

Don Aitken wrote...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something?

-- 
Adam Upham.

Don Aitken wrote...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something?

-- 
Adam Upham.

Don Aitken wrote...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something?

-- 
Adam Upham.

In uk.net.news.moderation on Tue, 29 May 2007 10:51:55 +0100, Adam Upham
 wrote:

}Don Aitken wrote...
}> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
}> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
}> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
}> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
}
}Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
}Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something

No. I think I have even forgotten the password, it is such a long time ago
that I did anything at all.

{R}

Don Aitken wrote...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something?

-- 
Adam Upham.

In uk.net.news.moderation on Tue, 29 May 2007 10:51:55 +0100, Adam Upham
 wrote:

}Don Aitken wrote...
}> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
}> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
}> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
}> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
}
}Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
}Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something

No. I think I have even forgotten the password, it is such a long time ago
that I did anything at all.

{R}

Don Aitken wrote...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something?

-- 
Adam Upham.

In uk.net.news.moderation on Tue, 29 May 2007 10:51:55 +0100, Adam Upham
 wrote:

}Don Aitken wrote...
}> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
}> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
}> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
}> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
}
}Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
}Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something

No. I think I have even forgotten the password, it is such a long time ago
that I did anything at all.

{R}

Don Aitken wrote...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something?

-- 
Adam Upham.

In uk.net.news.moderation on Tue, 29 May 2007 10:51:55 +0100, Adam Upham
 wrote:

}Don Aitken wrote...
}> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
}> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
}> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
}> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
}
}Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
}Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something

No. I think I have even forgotten the password, it is such a long time ago
that I did anything at all.

{R}

Don Aitken wrote...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something?

-- 
Adam Upham.

In uk.net.news.moderation on Tue, 29 May 2007 10:51:55 +0100, Adam Upham
 wrote:

}Don Aitken wrote...
}> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
}> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
}> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
}> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
}
}Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
}Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something

No. I think I have even forgotten the password, it is such a long time ago
that I did anything at all.

{R}

Don Aitken wrote...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something?

-- 
Adam Upham.

In uk.net.news.moderation on Tue, 29 May 2007 10:51:55 +0100, Adam Upham
 wrote:

}Don Aitken wrote...
}> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
}> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
}> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
}> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
}
}Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
}Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something

No. I think I have even forgotten the password, it is such a long time ago
that I did anything at all.

{R}

Don Aitken wrote...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something?

-- 
Adam Upham.

In uk.net.news.moderation on Tue, 29 May 2007 10:51:55 +0100, Adam Upham
 wrote:

}Don Aitken wrote...
}> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
}> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
}> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
}> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
}
}Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
}Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something

No. I think I have even forgotten the password, it is such a long time ago
that I did anything at all.

{R}

Don Aitken wrote...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something?

-- 
Adam Upham.

In uk.net.news.moderation on Tue, 29 May 2007 10:51:55 +0100, Adam Upham
 wrote:

}Don Aitken wrote...
}> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
}> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
}> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
}> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
}
}Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
}Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something

No. I think I have even forgotten the password, it is such a long time ago
that I did anything at all.

{R}

Don Aitken wrote...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something?

-- 
Adam Upham.

In uk.net.news.moderation on Tue, 29 May 2007 10:51:55 +0100, Adam Upham
 wrote:

}Don Aitken wrote...
}> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
}> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
}> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
}> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
}
}Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
}Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something

No. I think I have even forgotten the password, it is such a long time ago
that I did anything at all.

{R}

Don Aitken wrote...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something?

-- 
Adam Upham.

In uk.net.news.moderation on Tue, 29 May 2007 10:51:55 +0100, Adam Upham
 wrote:

}Don Aitken wrote...
}> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
}> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
}> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
}> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
}
}Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
}Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something

No. I think I have even forgotten the password, it is such a long time ago
that I did anything at all.

{R}

"Don Aitken"  wrote in message 
news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through 
moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave 
up. Most frustrating.

Don Aitken wrote...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something?

-- 
Adam Upham.

In uk.net.news.moderation on Tue, 29 May 2007 10:51:55 +0100, Adam Upham
 wrote:

}Don Aitken wrote...
}> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
}> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
}> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
}> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
}
}Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
}Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something

No. I think I have even forgotten the password, it is such a long time ago
that I did anything at all.

{R}

"Don Aitken"  wrote in message 
news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through 
moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave 
up. Most frustrating.

Don Aitken wrote...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something?

-- 
Adam Upham.

In uk.net.news.moderation on Tue, 29 May 2007 10:51:55 +0100, Adam Upham
 wrote:

}Don Aitken wrote...
}> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
}> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
}> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
}> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
}
}Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
}Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something

No. I think I have even forgotten the password, it is such a long time ago
that I did anything at all.

{R}

"Don Aitken"  wrote in message 
news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through 
moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave 
up. Most frustrating.

Sat, 2 Jun 2007 10:10:26  
uk.net.news.moderation The Todal 

>
>"Don Aitken"  wrote in message
>news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
>> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
>> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
>> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
>> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
>
>A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through
>moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave
>up. Most frustrating.

I had something similar happen a few weeks ago.  I posted a message, 
noticed it hadn't appeared on the list, checked the moderation site and 
saw it had been approved.  I wound back my news collection in case I had 
a gap but it never appeared.  I didn't repost it or mention it here as 
someone else made the same point in a later posting.

I think this suggests an intermittent problem at the mail to news 
interface which I think is gradwell.net

-- 
Wm ... Reply-To: address valid for at least 7 days
Recently read and recommended:
the curious incident of the dog in the night-time - Mark Haddon
Everyman - Philip Roth

On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 00:01:40 +0100, "Wm..."
 wrote:

>Sat, 2 Jun 2007 10:10:26  
>uk.net.news.moderation The Todal 
>
>>
>>"Don Aitken"  wrote in message
>>news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
>>> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
>>> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
>>> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
>>> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
>>
>>A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through
>>moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave
>>up. Most frustrating.
>
>I had something similar happen a few weeks ago.  I posted a message, 
>noticed it hadn't appeared on the list, checked the moderation site and 
>saw it had been approved.  I wound back my news collection in case I had 
>a gap but it never appeared.  I didn't repost it or mention it here as 
>someone else made the same point in a later posting.
>
>I think this suggests an intermittent problem at the mail to news 
>interface which I think is gradwell.net

It seems to be intermittent for some people, but not for me. Either
everything I post goes through, or nothing does. At the moment it is
nothing, and has been for more than two weeks now. I suspect my ISP
may have got itself on somebody's blacklist again.

-- 
Don Aitken
Mail to the From: address is not read.
To email me, substitute "clara.co.uk" for "freeuk.com"

Sun, 3 Jun 2007 03:45:44  
uk.net.news.moderation Don Aitken 

>On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 00:01:40 +0100, "Wm..."
> wrote:
>
>>Sat, 2 Jun 2007 10:10:26 
>>uk.net.news.moderation The Todal 
>>
>>>
>>>"Don Aitken"  wrote in message
>>>news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
>>>> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
>>>> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
>>>> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
>>>> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
>>>
>>>A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through
>>>moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave
>>>up. Most frustrating.
>>
>>I had something similar happen a few weeks ago.  I posted a message,
>>noticed it hadn't appeared on the list, checked the moderation site and
>>saw it had been approved.  I wound back my news collection in case I had
>>a gap but it never appeared.  I didn't repost it or mention it here as
>>someone else made the same point in a later posting.
>>
>>I think this suggests an intermittent problem at the mail to news
>>interface which I think is gradwell.net
>
>It seems to be intermittent for some people, but not for me. Either
>everything I post goes through, or nothing does. At the moment it is
>nothing, and has been for more than two weeks now. I suspect my ISP
>may have got itself on somebody's blacklist again.

I think it would be useful if people distinguished between

messages getting to the moderators and being visible on the moderation 
web pages as being accepted or white listed and not appearing

vs

those that the moderators have refused (I have had a few in the past and 
moaned about them at times)

I think the issue here is the mail to news gateway.  Any mail to news 
service (and it is a service) is allowed to set its own rules, if 
someone from your (or my or The Todal's or Adam's or anyone elses's) ISP 
has been behaving badly the mail to news gateway can be closed.

Why would a mail to news gateway provider block some people?  Usually it 
is because they have broken a rule.  Cross posting and other technical 
issues are usually more important to serious providers of this useful 
service.

I would like to suggest to RA, the ULM team and whoever it is that makes 
the rules at gradwell that once a post has been approved for moderation 
it should be allowed through the mail to news system.

-- 
Wm ... Reply-To: address valid for at least 7 days
Recently read and recommended:
the curious incident of the dog in the night-time - Mark Haddon
Everyman - Philip Roth

Don Aitken wrote...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something?

-- 
Adam Upham.

In uk.net.news.moderation on Tue, 29 May 2007 10:51:55 +0100, Adam Upham
 wrote:

}Don Aitken wrote...
}> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
}> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
}> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
}> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
}
}Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
}Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something

No. I think I have even forgotten the password, it is such a long time ago
that I did anything at all.

{R}

"Don Aitken"  wrote in message 
news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through 
moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave 
up. Most frustrating.

Sat, 2 Jun 2007 10:10:26  
uk.net.news.moderation The Todal 

>
>"Don Aitken"  wrote in message
>news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
>> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
>> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
>> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
>> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
>
>A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through
>moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave
>up. Most frustrating.

I had something similar happen a few weeks ago.  I posted a message, 
noticed it hadn't appeared on the list, checked the moderation site and 
saw it had been approved.  I wound back my news collection in case I had 
a gap but it never appeared.  I didn't repost it or mention it here as 
someone else made the same point in a later posting.

I think this suggests an intermittent problem at the mail to news 
interface which I think is gradwell.net

-- 
Wm ... Reply-To: address valid for at least 7 days
Recently read and recommended:
the curious incident of the dog in the night-time - Mark Haddon
Everyman - Philip Roth

On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 00:01:40 +0100, "Wm..."
 wrote:

>Sat, 2 Jun 2007 10:10:26  
>uk.net.news.moderation The Todal 
>
>>
>>"Don Aitken"  wrote in message
>>news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
>>> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
>>> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
>>> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
>>> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
>>
>>A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through
>>moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave
>>up. Most frustrating.
>
>I had something similar happen a few weeks ago.  I posted a message, 
>noticed it hadn't appeared on the list, checked the moderation site and 
>saw it had been approved.  I wound back my news collection in case I had 
>a gap but it never appeared.  I didn't repost it or mention it here as 
>someone else made the same point in a later posting.
>
>I think this suggests an intermittent problem at the mail to news 
>interface which I think is gradwell.net

It seems to be intermittent for some people, but not for me. Either
everything I post goes through, or nothing does. At the moment it is
nothing, and has been for more than two weeks now. I suspect my ISP
may have got itself on somebody's blacklist again.

-- 
Don Aitken
Mail to the From: address is not read.
To email me, substitute "clara.co.uk" for "freeuk.com"

Sun, 3 Jun 2007 03:45:44  
uk.net.news.moderation Don Aitken 

>On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 00:01:40 +0100, "Wm..."
> wrote:
>
>>Sat, 2 Jun 2007 10:10:26 
>>uk.net.news.moderation The Todal 
>>
>>>
>>>"Don Aitken"  wrote in message
>>>news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
>>>> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
>>>> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
>>>> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
>>>> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
>>>
>>>A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through
>>>moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave
>>>up. Most frustrating.
>>
>>I had something similar happen a few weeks ago.  I posted a message,
>>noticed it hadn't appeared on the list, checked the moderation site and
>>saw it had been approved.  I wound back my news collection in case I had
>>a gap but it never appeared.  I didn't repost it or mention it here as
>>someone else made the same point in a later posting.
>>
>>I think this suggests an intermittent problem at the mail to news
>>interface which I think is gradwell.net
>
>It seems to be intermittent for some people, but not for me. Either
>everything I post goes through, or nothing does. At the moment it is
>nothing, and has been for more than two weeks now. I suspect my ISP
>may have got itself on somebody's blacklist again.

I think it would be useful if people distinguished between

messages getting to the moderators and being visible on the moderation 
web pages as being accepted or white listed and not appearing

vs

those that the moderators have refused (I have had a few in the past and 
moaned about them at times)

I think the issue here is the mail to news gateway.  Any mail to news 
service (and it is a service) is allowed to set its own rules, if 
someone from your (or my or The Todal's or Adam's or anyone elses's) ISP 
has been behaving badly the mail to news gateway can be closed.

Why would a mail to news gateway provider block some people?  Usually it 
is because they have broken a rule.  Cross posting and other technical 
issues are usually more important to serious providers of this useful 
service.

I would like to suggest to RA, the ULM team and whoever it is that makes 
the rules at gradwell that once a post has been approved for moderation 
it should be allowed through the mail to news system.

-- 
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Don Aitken wrote...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something?

-- 
Adam Upham.

In uk.net.news.moderation on Tue, 29 May 2007 10:51:55 +0100, Adam Upham
 wrote:

}Don Aitken wrote...
}> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
}> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
}> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
}> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
}
}Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
}Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something

No. I think I have even forgotten the password, it is such a long time ago
that I did anything at all.

{R}

"Don Aitken"  wrote in message 
news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through 
moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave 
up. Most frustrating.

Sat, 2 Jun 2007 10:10:26  
uk.net.news.moderation The Todal 

>
>"Don Aitken"  wrote in message
>news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
>> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
>> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
>> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
>> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
>
>A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through
>moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave
>up. Most frustrating.

I had something similar happen a few weeks ago.  I posted a message, 
noticed it hadn't appeared on the list, checked the moderation site and 
saw it had been approved.  I wound back my news collection in case I had 
a gap but it never appeared.  I didn't repost it or mention it here as 
someone else made the same point in a later posting.

I think this suggests an intermittent problem at the mail to news 
interface which I think is gradwell.net

-- 
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Recently read and recommended:
the curious incident of the dog in the night-time - Mark Haddon
Everyman - Philip Roth

On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 00:01:40 +0100, "Wm..."
 wrote:

>Sat, 2 Jun 2007 10:10:26  
>uk.net.news.moderation The Todal 
>
>>
>>"Don Aitken"  wrote in message
>>news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
>>> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
>>> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
>>> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
>>> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
>>
>>A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through
>>moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave
>>up. Most frustrating.
>
>I had something similar happen a few weeks ago.  I posted a message, 
>noticed it hadn't appeared on the list, checked the moderation site and 
>saw it had been approved.  I wound back my news collection in case I had 
>a gap but it never appeared.  I didn't repost it or mention it here as 
>someone else made the same point in a later posting.
>
>I think this suggests an intermittent problem at the mail to news 
>interface which I think is gradwell.net

It seems to be intermittent for some people, but not for me. Either
everything I post goes through, or nothing does. At the moment it is
nothing, and has been for more than two weeks now. I suspect my ISP
may have got itself on somebody's blacklist again.

-- 
Don Aitken
Mail to the From: address is not read.
To email me, substitute "clara.co.uk" for "freeuk.com"

Sun, 3 Jun 2007 03:45:44  
uk.net.news.moderation Don Aitken 

>On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 00:01:40 +0100, "Wm..."
> wrote:
>
>>Sat, 2 Jun 2007 10:10:26 
>>uk.net.news.moderation The Todal 
>>
>>>
>>>"Don Aitken"  wrote in message
>>>news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
>>>> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
>>>> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
>>>> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
>>>> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
>>>
>>>A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through
>>>moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave
>>>up. Most frustrating.
>>
>>I had something similar happen a few weeks ago.  I posted a message,
>>noticed it hadn't appeared on the list, checked the moderation site and
>>saw it had been approved.  I wound back my news collection in case I had
>>a gap but it never appeared.  I didn't repost it or mention it here as
>>someone else made the same point in a later posting.
>>
>>I think this suggests an intermittent problem at the mail to news
>>interface which I think is gradwell.net
>
>It seems to be intermittent for some people, but not for me. Either
>everything I post goes through, or nothing does. At the moment it is
>nothing, and has been for more than two weeks now. I suspect my ISP
>may have got itself on somebody's blacklist again.

I think it would be useful if people distinguished between

messages getting to the moderators and being visible on the moderation 
web pages as being accepted or white listed and not appearing

vs

those that the moderators have refused (I have had a few in the past and 
moaned about them at times)

I think the issue here is the mail to news gateway.  Any mail to news 
service (and it is a service) is allowed to set its own rules, if 
someone from your (or my or The Todal's or Adam's or anyone elses's) ISP 
has been behaving badly the mail to news gateway can be closed.

Why would a mail to news gateway provider block some people?  Usually it 
is because they have broken a rule.  Cross posting and other technical 
issues are usually more important to serious providers of this useful 
service.

I would like to suggest to RA, the ULM team and whoever it is that makes 
the rules at gradwell that once a post has been approved for moderation 
it should be allowed through the mail to news system.

-- 
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Recently read and recommended:
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Everyman - Philip Roth

Sun, 3 Jun 2007 05:01:54 <2s+MyVPy0jYGFwX5@[127.0.0.1]> 
uk.net.news.moderation Wm... 

>I would like to suggest to RA, the ULM team and whoever it is that 
>makes the rules at gradwell that once a post has been approved for 
>moderation it should be allowed through the mail to news system.

man-accept-086152wnhoh hasn't made it past the mail-to-news gateway 
provided by gradwell.  It contains useful information.

I can't think of another way, except people noting here when a message 
goes missing, that gradwell might take notice that their mail-to-news is 
Icelandic.

-- 
Wm ... Reply-To: address valid for at least 7 days
Recently read and recommended:
the curious incident of the dog in the night-time - Mark Haddon
Everyman - Philip Roth

Don Aitken wrote...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something?

-- 
Adam Upham.

In uk.net.news.moderation on Tue, 29 May 2007 10:51:55 +0100, Adam Upham
 wrote:

}Don Aitken wrote...
}> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
}> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
}> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
}> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
}
}Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
}Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something

No. I think I have even forgotten the password, it is such a long time ago
that I did anything at all.

{R}

"Don Aitken"  wrote in message 
news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through 
moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave 
up. Most frustrating.

Sat, 2 Jun 2007 10:10:26  
uk.net.news.moderation The Todal 

>
>"Don Aitken"  wrote in message
>news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
>> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
>> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
>> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
>> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
>
>A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through
>moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave
>up. Most frustrating.

I had something similar happen a few weeks ago.  I posted a message, 
noticed it hadn't appeared on the list, checked the moderation site and 
saw it had been approved.  I wound back my news collection in case I had 
a gap but it never appeared.  I didn't repost it or mention it here as 
someone else made the same point in a later posting.

I think this suggests an intermittent problem at the mail to news 
interface which I think is gradwell.net

-- 
Wm ... Reply-To: address valid for at least 7 days
Recently read and recommended:
the curious incident of the dog in the night-time - Mark Haddon
Everyman - Philip Roth

On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 00:01:40 +0100, "Wm..."
 wrote:

>Sat, 2 Jun 2007 10:10:26  
>uk.net.news.moderation The Todal 
>
>>
>>"Don Aitken"  wrote in message
>>news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
>>> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
>>> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
>>> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
>>> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
>>
>>A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through
>>moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave
>>up. Most frustrating.
>
>I had something similar happen a few weeks ago.  I posted a message, 
>noticed it hadn't appeared on the list, checked the moderation site and 
>saw it had been approved.  I wound back my news collection in case I had 
>a gap but it never appeared.  I didn't repost it or mention it here as 
>someone else made the same point in a later posting.
>
>I think this suggests an intermittent problem at the mail to news 
>interface which I think is gradwell.net

It seems to be intermittent for some people, but not for me. Either
everything I post goes through, or nothing does. At the moment it is
nothing, and has been for more than two weeks now. I suspect my ISP
may have got itself on somebody's blacklist again.

-- 
Don Aitken
Mail to the From: address is not read.
To email me, substitute "clara.co.uk" for "freeuk.com"

Sun, 3 Jun 2007 03:45:44  
uk.net.news.moderation Don Aitken 

>On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 00:01:40 +0100, "Wm..."
> wrote:
>
>>Sat, 2 Jun 2007 10:10:26 
>>uk.net.news.moderation The Todal 
>>
>>>
>>>"Don Aitken"  wrote in message
>>>news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
>>>> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
>>>> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
>>>> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
>>>> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
>>>
>>>A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through
>>>moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave
>>>up. Most frustrating.
>>
>>I had something similar happen a few weeks ago.  I posted a message,
>>noticed it hadn't appeared on the list, checked the moderation site and
>>saw it had been approved.  I wound back my news collection in case I had
>>a gap but it never appeared.  I didn't repost it or mention it here as
>>someone else made the same point in a later posting.
>>
>>I think this suggests an intermittent problem at the mail to news
>>interface which I think is gradwell.net
>
>It seems to be intermittent for some people, but not for me. Either
>everything I post goes through, or nothing does. At the moment it is
>nothing, and has been for more than two weeks now. I suspect my ISP
>may have got itself on somebody's blacklist again.

I think it would be useful if people distinguished between

messages getting to the moderators and being visible on the moderation 
web pages as being accepted or white listed and not appearing

vs

those that the moderators have refused (I have had a few in the past and 
moaned about them at times)

I think the issue here is the mail to news gateway.  Any mail to news 
service (and it is a service) is allowed to set its own rules, if 
someone from your (or my or The Todal's or Adam's or anyone elses's) ISP 
has been behaving badly the mail to news gateway can be closed.

Why would a mail to news gateway provider block some people?  Usually it 
is because they have broken a rule.  Cross posting and other technical 
issues are usually more important to serious providers of this useful 
service.

I would like to suggest to RA, the ULM team and whoever it is that makes 
the rules at gradwell that once a post has been approved for moderation 
it should be allowed through the mail to news system.

-- 
Wm ... Reply-To: address valid for at least 7 days
Recently read and recommended:
the curious incident of the dog in the night-time - Mark Haddon
Everyman - Philip Roth

Sun, 3 Jun 2007 05:01:54 <2s+MyVPy0jYGFwX5@[127.0.0.1]> 
uk.net.news.moderation Wm... 

>I would like to suggest to RA, the ULM team and whoever it is that 
>makes the rules at gradwell that once a post has been approved for 
>moderation it should be allowed through the mail to news system.

man-accept-086152wnhoh hasn't made it past the mail-to-news gateway 
provided by gradwell.  It contains useful information.

I can't think of another way, except people noting here when a message 
goes missing, that gradwell might take notice that their mail-to-news is 
Icelandic.

-- 
Wm ... Reply-To: address valid for at least 7 days
Recently read and recommended:
the curious incident of the dog in the night-time - Mark Haddon
Everyman - Philip Roth

Don Aitken wrote...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something?

-- 
Adam Upham.

In uk.net.news.moderation on Tue, 29 May 2007 10:51:55 +0100, Adam Upham
 wrote:

}Don Aitken wrote...
}> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
}> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
}> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
}> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
}
}Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
}Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something

No. I think I have even forgotten the password, it is such a long time ago
that I did anything at all.

{R}

"Don Aitken"  wrote in message 
news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through 
moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave 
up. Most frustrating.

Sat, 2 Jun 2007 10:10:26  
uk.net.news.moderation The Todal 

>
>"Don Aitken"  wrote in message
>news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
>> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
>> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
>> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
>> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
>
>A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through
>moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave
>up. Most frustrating.

I had something similar happen a few weeks ago.  I posted a message, 
noticed it hadn't appeared on the list, checked the moderation site and 
saw it had been approved.  I wound back my news collection in case I had 
a gap but it never appeared.  I didn't repost it or mention it here as 
someone else made the same point in a later posting.

I think this suggests an intermittent problem at the mail to news 
interface which I think is gradwell.net

-- 
Wm ... Reply-To: address valid for at least 7 days
Recently read and recommended:
the curious incident of the dog in the night-time - Mark Haddon
Everyman - Philip Roth

On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 00:01:40 +0100, "Wm..."
 wrote:

>Sat, 2 Jun 2007 10:10:26  
>uk.net.news.moderation The Todal 
>
>>
>>"Don Aitken"  wrote in message
>>news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
>>> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
>>> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
>>> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
>>> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
>>
>>A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through
>>moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave
>>up. Most frustrating.
>
>I had something similar happen a few weeks ago.  I posted a message, 
>noticed it hadn't appeared on the list, checked the moderation site and 
>saw it had been approved.  I wound back my news collection in case I had 
>a gap but it never appeared.  I didn't repost it or mention it here as 
>someone else made the same point in a later posting.
>
>I think this suggests an intermittent problem at the mail to news 
>interface which I think is gradwell.net

It seems to be intermittent for some people, but not for me. Either
everything I post goes through, or nothing does. At the moment it is
nothing, and has been for more than two weeks now. I suspect my ISP
may have got itself on somebody's blacklist again.

-- 
Don Aitken
Mail to the From: address is not read.
To email me, substitute "clara.co.uk" for "freeuk.com"

Sun, 3 Jun 2007 03:45:44  
uk.net.news.moderation Don Aitken 

>On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 00:01:40 +0100, "Wm..."
> wrote:
>
>>Sat, 2 Jun 2007 10:10:26 
>>uk.net.news.moderation The Todal 
>>
>>>
>>>"Don Aitken"  wrote in message
>>>news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
>>>> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
>>>> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
>>>> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
>>>> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
>>>
>>>A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through
>>>moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave
>>>up. Most frustrating.
>>
>>I had something similar happen a few weeks ago.  I posted a message,
>>noticed it hadn't appeared on the list, checked the moderation site and
>>saw it had been approved.  I wound back my news collection in case I had
>>a gap but it never appeared.  I didn't repost it or mention it here as
>>someone else made the same point in a later posting.
>>
>>I think this suggests an intermittent problem at the mail to news
>>interface which I think is gradwell.net
>
>It seems to be intermittent for some people, but not for me. Either
>everything I post goes through, or nothing does. At the moment it is
>nothing, and has been for more than two weeks now. I suspect my ISP
>may have got itself on somebody's blacklist again.

I think it would be useful if people distinguished between

messages getting to the moderators and being visible on the moderation 
web pages as being accepted or white listed and not appearing

vs

those that the moderators have refused (I have had a few in the past and 
moaned about them at times)

I think the issue here is the mail to news gateway.  Any mail to news 
service (and it is a service) is allowed to set its own rules, if 
someone from your (or my or The Todal's or Adam's or anyone elses's) ISP 
has been behaving badly the mail to news gateway can be closed.

Why would a mail to news gateway provider block some people?  Usually it 
is because they have broken a rule.  Cross posting and other technical 
issues are usually more important to serious providers of this useful 
service.

I would like to suggest to RA, the ULM team and whoever it is that makes 
the rules at gradwell that once a post has been approved for moderation 
it should be allowed through the mail to news system.

-- 
Wm ... Reply-To: address valid for at least 7 days
Recently read and recommended:
the curious incident of the dog in the night-time - Mark Haddon
Everyman - Philip Roth

Sun, 3 Jun 2007 05:01:54 <2s+MyVPy0jYGFwX5@[127.0.0.1]> 
uk.net.news.moderation Wm... 

>I would like to suggest to RA, the ULM team and whoever it is that 
>makes the rules at gradwell that once a post has been approved for 
>moderation it should be allowed through the mail to news system.

man-accept-086152wnhoh hasn't made it past the mail-to-news gateway 
provided by gradwell.  It contains useful information.

I can't think of another way, except people noting here when a message 
goes missing, that gradwell might take notice that their mail-to-news is 
Icelandic.

-- 
Wm ... Reply-To: address valid for at least 7 days
Recently read and recommended:
the curious incident of the dog in the night-time - Mark Haddon
Everyman - Philip Roth

Don Aitken wrote...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something?

-- 
Adam Upham.

In uk.net.news.moderation on Tue, 29 May 2007 10:51:55 +0100, Adam Upham
 wrote:

}Don Aitken wrote...
}> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
}> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
}> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
}> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
}
}Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
}Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something

No. I think I have even forgotten the password, it is such a long time ago
that I did anything at all.

{R}

"Don Aitken"  wrote in message 
news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through 
moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave 
up. Most frustrating.

Sat, 2 Jun 2007 10:10:26  
uk.net.news.moderation The Todal 

>
>"Don Aitken"  wrote in message
>news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
>> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
>> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
>> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
>> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
>
>A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through
>moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave
>up. Most frustrating.

I had something similar happen a few weeks ago.  I posted a message, 
noticed it hadn't appeared on the list, checked the moderation site and 
saw it had been approved.  I wound back my news collection in case I had 
a gap but it never appeared.  I didn't repost it or mention it here as 
someone else made the same point in a later posting.

I think this suggests an intermittent problem at the mail to news 
interface which I think is gradwell.net

-- 
Wm ... Reply-To: address valid for at least 7 days
Recently read and recommended:
the curious incident of the dog in the night-time - Mark Haddon
Everyman - Philip Roth

On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 00:01:40 +0100, "Wm..."
 wrote:

>Sat, 2 Jun 2007 10:10:26  
>uk.net.news.moderation The Todal 
>
>>
>>"Don Aitken"  wrote in message
>>news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
>>> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
>>> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
>>> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
>>> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
>>
>>A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through
>>moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave
>>up. Most frustrating.
>
>I had something similar happen a few weeks ago.  I posted a message, 
>noticed it hadn't appeared on the list, checked the moderation site and 
>saw it had been approved.  I wound back my news collection in case I had 
>a gap but it never appeared.  I didn't repost it or mention it here as 
>someone else made the same point in a later posting.
>
>I think this suggests an intermittent problem at the mail to news 
>interface which I think is gradwell.net

It seems to be intermittent for some people, but not for me. Either
everything I post goes through, or nothing does. At the moment it is
nothing, and has been for more than two weeks now. I suspect my ISP
may have got itself on somebody's blacklist again.

-- 
Don Aitken
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Sun, 3 Jun 2007 03:45:44  
uk.net.news.moderation Don Aitken 

>On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 00:01:40 +0100, "Wm..."
> wrote:
>
>>Sat, 2 Jun 2007 10:10:26 
>>uk.net.news.moderation The Todal 
>>
>>>
>>>"Don Aitken"  wrote in message
>>>news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
>>>> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
>>>> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
>>>> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
>>>> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
>>>
>>>A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through
>>>moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave
>>>up. Most frustrating.
>>
>>I had something similar happen a few weeks ago.  I posted a message,
>>noticed it hadn't appeared on the list, checked the moderation site and
>>saw it had been approved.  I wound back my news collection in case I had
>>a gap but it never appeared.  I didn't repost it or mention it here as
>>someone else made the same point in a later posting.
>>
>>I think this suggests an intermittent problem at the mail to news
>>interface which I think is gradwell.net
>
>It seems to be intermittent for some people, but not for me. Either
>everything I post goes through, or nothing does. At the moment it is
>nothing, and has been for more than two weeks now. I suspect my ISP
>may have got itself on somebody's blacklist again.

I think it would be useful if people distinguished between

messages getting to the moderators and being visible on the moderation 
web pages as being accepted or white listed and not appearing

vs

those that the moderators have refused (I have had a few in the past and 
moaned about them at times)

I think the issue here is the mail to news gateway.  Any mail to news 
service (and it is a service) is allowed to set its own rules, if 
someone from your (or my or The Todal's or Adam's or anyone elses's) ISP 
has been behaving badly the mail to news gateway can be closed.

Why would a mail to news gateway provider block some people?  Usually it 
is because they have broken a rule.  Cross posting and other technical 
issues are usually more important to serious providers of this useful 
service.

I would like to suggest to RA, the ULM team and whoever it is that makes 
the rules at gradwell that once a post has been approved for moderation 
it should be allowed through the mail to news system.

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Sun, 3 Jun 2007 05:01:54 <2s+MyVPy0jYGFwX5@[127.0.0.1]> 
uk.net.news.moderation Wm... 

>I would like to suggest to RA, the ULM team and whoever it is that 
>makes the rules at gradwell that once a post has been approved for 
>moderation it should be allowed through the mail to news system.

man-accept-086152wnhoh hasn't made it past the mail-to-news gateway 
provided by gradwell.  It contains useful information.

I can't think of another way, except people noting here when a message 
goes missing, that gradwell might take notice that their mail-to-news is 
Icelandic.

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Don Aitken wrote...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something?

-- 
Adam Upham.

In uk.net.news.moderation on Tue, 29 May 2007 10:51:55 +0100, Adam Upham
 wrote:

}Don Aitken wrote...
}> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
}> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
}> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
}> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
}
}Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
}Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something

No. I think I have even forgotten the password, it is such a long time ago
that I did anything at all.

{R}

"Don Aitken"  wrote in message 
news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through 
moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave 
up. Most frustrating.

Sat, 2 Jun 2007 10:10:26  
uk.net.news.moderation The Todal 

>
>"Don Aitken"  wrote in message
>news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
>> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
>> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
>> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
>> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
>
>A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through
>moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave
>up. Most frustrating.

I had something similar happen a few weeks ago.  I posted a message, 
noticed it hadn't appeared on the list, checked the moderation site and 
saw it had been approved.  I wound back my news collection in case I had 
a gap but it never appeared.  I didn't repost it or mention it here as 
someone else made the same point in a later posting.

I think this suggests an intermittent problem at the mail to news 
interface which I think is gradwell.net

-- 
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the curious incident of the dog in the night-time - Mark Haddon
Everyman - Philip Roth

On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 00:01:40 +0100, "Wm..."
 wrote:

>Sat, 2 Jun 2007 10:10:26  
>uk.net.news.moderation The Todal 
>
>>
>>"Don Aitken"  wrote in message
>>news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
>>> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
>>> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
>>> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
>>> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
>>
>>A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through
>>moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave
>>up. Most frustrating.
>
>I had something similar happen a few weeks ago.  I posted a message, 
>noticed it hadn't appeared on the list, checked the moderation site and 
>saw it had been approved.  I wound back my news collection in case I had 
>a gap but it never appeared.  I didn't repost it or mention it here as 
>someone else made the same point in a later posting.
>
>I think this suggests an intermittent problem at the mail to news 
>interface which I think is gradwell.net

It seems to be intermittent for some people, but not for me. Either
everything I post goes through, or nothing does. At the moment it is
nothing, and has been for more than two weeks now. I suspect my ISP
may have got itself on somebody's blacklist again.

-- 
Don Aitken
Mail to the From: address is not read.
To email me, substitute "clara.co.uk" for "freeuk.com"

Sun, 3 Jun 2007 03:45:44  
uk.net.news.moderation Don Aitken 

>On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 00:01:40 +0100, "Wm..."
> wrote:
>
>>Sat, 2 Jun 2007 10:10:26 
>>uk.net.news.moderation The Todal 
>>
>>>
>>>"Don Aitken"  wrote in message
>>>news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
>>>> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
>>>> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
>>>> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
>>>> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
>>>
>>>A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through
>>>moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave
>>>up. Most frustrating.
>>
>>I had something similar happen a few weeks ago.  I posted a message,
>>noticed it hadn't appeared on the list, checked the moderation site and
>>saw it had been approved.  I wound back my news collection in case I had
>>a gap but it never appeared.  I didn't repost it or mention it here as
>>someone else made the same point in a later posting.
>>
>>I think this suggests an intermittent problem at the mail to news
>>interface which I think is gradwell.net
>
>It seems to be intermittent for some people, but not for me. Either
>everything I post goes through, or nothing does. At the moment it is
>nothing, and has been for more than two weeks now. I suspect my ISP
>may have got itself on somebody's blacklist again.

I think it would be useful if people distinguished between

messages getting to the moderators and being visible on the moderation 
web pages as being accepted or white listed and not appearing

vs

those that the moderators have refused (I have had a few in the past and 
moaned about them at times)

I think the issue here is the mail to news gateway.  Any mail to news 
service (and it is a service) is allowed to set its own rules, if 
someone from your (or my or The Todal's or Adam's or anyone elses's) ISP 
has been behaving badly the mail to news gateway can be closed.

Why would a mail to news gateway provider block some people?  Usually it 
is because they have broken a rule.  Cross posting and other technical 
issues are usually more important to serious providers of this useful 
service.

I would like to suggest to RA, the ULM team and whoever it is that makes 
the rules at gradwell that once a post has been approved for moderation 
it should be allowed through the mail to news system.

-- 
Wm ... Reply-To: address valid for at least 7 days
Recently read and recommended:
the curious incident of the dog in the night-time - Mark Haddon
Everyman - Philip Roth

Sun, 3 Jun 2007 05:01:54 <2s+MyVPy0jYGFwX5@[127.0.0.1]> 
uk.net.news.moderation Wm... 

>I would like to suggest to RA, the ULM team and whoever it is that 
>makes the rules at gradwell that once a post has been approved for 
>moderation it should be allowed through the mail to news system.

man-accept-086152wnhoh hasn't made it past the mail-to-news gateway 
provided by gradwell.  It contains useful information.

I can't think of another way, except people noting here when a message 
goes missing, that gradwell might take notice that their mail-to-news is 
Icelandic.

-- 
Wm ... Reply-To: address valid for at least 7 days
Recently read and recommended:
the curious incident of the dog in the night-time - Mark Haddon
Everyman - Philip Roth

Don Aitken wrote...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something?

-- 
Adam Upham.

In uk.net.news.moderation on Tue, 29 May 2007 10:51:55 +0100, Adam Upham
 wrote:

}Don Aitken wrote...
}> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
}> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
}> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
}> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
}
}Yes, I have noticed a few which didn't even appear after being accepted. 
}Maybe the sysadmin has been tweaking something

No. I think I have even forgotten the password, it is such a long time ago
that I did anything at all.

{R}

"Don Aitken"  wrote in message 
news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.

A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through 
moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave 
up. Most frustrating.

Sat, 2 Jun 2007 10:10:26  
uk.net.news.moderation The Todal 

>
>"Don Aitken"  wrote in message
>news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
>> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
>> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
>> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
>> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
>
>A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through
>moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave
>up. Most frustrating.

I had something similar happen a few weeks ago.  I posted a message, 
noticed it hadn't appeared on the list, checked the moderation site and 
saw it had been approved.  I wound back my news collection in case I had 
a gap but it never appeared.  I didn't repost it or mention it here as 
someone else made the same point in a later posting.

I think this suggests an intermittent problem at the mail to news 
interface which I think is gradwell.net

-- 
Wm ... Reply-To: address valid for at least 7 days
Recently read and recommended:
the curious incident of the dog in the night-time - Mark Haddon
Everyman - Philip Roth

On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 00:01:40 +0100, "Wm..."
 wrote:

>Sat, 2 Jun 2007 10:10:26  
>uk.net.news.moderation The Todal 
>
>>
>>"Don Aitken"  wrote in message
>>news:g1pm53h0vodl887bch4qb8agioebtq6r4d@4ax.com...
>>> Is anyone else having problems posting to ulm? I have posted five
>>> messages in the last week, most recently one in the thread "Criminal
>>> damage/rights of way" at 16.46 yesterday. None of them have appeared
>>> either in the group or in the "rejected posts" list.
>>
>>A few days ago I posted the same message repeatedly, actioned it through
>>moderation and observed that it never reached the group. In the end I gave
>>up. Most frustrating.
>
>I had something similar happen a few weeks ago.  I posted a message, 
>noticed it hadn't appeared on the list, checked the moderation site and 
>saw it had been approved.  I wound back my news collection in case I had 
>a gap but it never appeared.  I didn't repost it or mention it here as 
>someone else made the same point in a later posting.
>
>I think this suggests an intermittent problem at the mail to news 
>interface which I think is gradwell.net

It seems to be intermittent for some people, but not for me. Either
everything I post goes through, or nothing does. At the moment it is
nothing, and has been for more than two weeks now. I suspect my ISP
may have got itself on somebody's blacklist again.

-- 
Don Aitken
Mail to the From: address is not read.
To email me, substitute "clara.co.uk" for "freeuk.com"