===
Persons resigning from the Committee

Open Member Class:

Geoff Berrow
Mark Goodge
Alison Hopkins
===

do any of you want to leave?

it would be useful if you stated if you'd like to carry on.

yes, I know the clown thinks you carry on doing nothing, etc. but it 
might help the broader public (there are only 7 people using usenet 
these days, I know) if you gave an indication.

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following:

>it would be useful if you stated if you'd like to carry on.

I will carry on.
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In uk.net.news.management message , Wed,
10 Sep 2008 11:16:33, Wm...  posted:
>
>===
>Persons resigning from the Committee
>
>Open Member Class:
>
>Geoff Berrow
>Mark Goodge
>Alison Hopkins
>===
>
>do any of you want to leave?
>
>it would be useful if you stated if you'd like to carry on.

If they are resigning, then obviously they don't want to carry on.

If you are quoting that, you should indicate that it is a quote and
where from.

If it is a quote, I suspect it means, and should be changed to indicate
so, "Persons whose current term of office is expiring".

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Dr J R Stockton wrote:

> If it is a quote, I suspect it means, and should be changed to indicate
> so, "Persons whose current term of office is expiring".
> 
The wording in the Committee Document [1] is "At each annual Committee 
Election, all open members who have served a full 3 year term shall 
retire from the Committee."

Having said that, it has been usual UKVoting practice to use the word 
"resigning" since at least 1999, and I don't recall any comments on 
choice of wording before.

Cheers,

Barry

[1] <http://www.usenet.org.uk/committee.html>

Barry Salter wrote:
> Dr J R Stockton wrote:
>
>> If it is a quote, I suspect it means, and should be changed to
>> indicate so, "Persons whose current term of office is expiring".
>>
> The wording in the Committee Document [1] is "At each annual Committee
> Election, all open members who have served a full 3 year term shall
> retire from the Committee."
>
> Having said that, it has been usual UKVoting practice to use the word
> "resigning" since at least 1999, and I don't recall any comments on
> choice of wording before.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Barry
>
> [1] <http://www.usenet.org.uk/committee.html>

I'm afraid the idiot's right in this case. If the Committee Document says 
"retire", then that is the word that you should be using.
-- 
John Briggs

In uk.net.news.management message <OUXxk.11732$T82.6176@newsfe16.ams2>,
Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:31:08, John Briggs 
posted:
>Barry Salter wrote:
>> Dr J R Stockton wrote:
>>
>>> If it is a quote, I suspect it means, and should be changed to
>>> indicate so, "Persons whose current term of office is expiring".
>>>
>> The wording in the Committee Document [1] is "At each annual Committee
>> Election, all open members who have served a full 3 year term shall
>> retire from the Committee."
>>
>> Having said that, it has been usual UKVoting practice to use the word
>> "resigning" since at least 1999, and I don't recall any comments on
>> choice of wording before.

>> [1] <http://www.usenet.org.uk/committee.html>
>
>I'm afraid the idiot's right in this case. If the Committee Document
>says "retire", then that is the word that you should be using.

Since the Committee document days what it does not mean and means what
it does not say, it should not be quoted.  Instead, its meaning should
be stated instead, in order that there be no chance of unnecessary
propagation of confusion.

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Dr J R Stockton wrote:
> In uk.net.news.management message
> <OUXxk.11732$T82.6176@newsfe16.ams2>, Wed, 10 Sep 2008 23:31:08, John
> Briggs  posted:
>> Barry Salter wrote:
>>> Dr J R Stockton wrote:
>>> 
>>>> If it is a quote, I suspect it means, and should be changed to
>>>> indicate so, "Persons whose current term of office is expiring".
>>>> 
>>> The wording in the Committee Document [1] is "At each annual
>>> Committee Election, all open members who have served a full 3 year
>>> term shall retire from the Committee."
>>> 
>>> Having said that, it has been usual UKVoting practice to use the
>>> word "resigning" since at least 1999, and I don't recall any
>>> comments on choice of wording before.
> 
>>> [1] <http://www.usenet.org.uk/committee.html>
>> 
>> I'm afraid the idiot's right in this case. If the Committee Document
>> says "retire", then that is the word that you should be using.
> 
> Since the Committee document days what it does not mean and means what
> it does not say, it should not be quoted.  Instead, its meaning should
> be stated instead, in order that there be no chance of unnecessary
> propagation of confusion.

And once again, in English this time?
-- 
John Briggs

On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 00:15:06 +0100, "John Briggs"
 wrote:

>> Since the Committee document days what it does not mean and means what
>> it does not say, it should not be quoted.  Instead, its meaning should
>> be stated instead, in order that there be no chance of unnecessary
>> propagation of confusion.

Thank you for clearing up that potential confusion.

Peter Parry wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 00:15:06 +0100, "John Briggs"
>  wrote:
> 
>>> Since the Committee document days what it does not mean and means
>>> what it does not say, it should not be quoted.  Instead, its
>>> meaning should be stated instead, in order that there be no chance
>>> of unnecessary propagation of confusion.
> 
> Thank you for clearing up that potential confusion.

I didn't write that - it was the idiot Stockton.
-- 
John Briggs

On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:43:09 +0100, "John Briggs"
 wrote:

>I didn't write that - it was the idiot Stockton.

ITYM: I didn't Stockton that - it the idiot was write

On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:43:09 +0100, "John Briggs"
 wrote:

>> Thank you for clearing up that potential confusion.
>
>I didn't write that - it was the idiot Stockton.

I thought you lightly clarified it?

Peter Parry wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:43:09 +0100, "John Briggs" wrote:
>> Peter Parry wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you for clearing up that potential confusion.
>>
>> I didn't write that - it was the idiot Stockton.
>
> I thought you lightly clarified it?

I lightly clarified his original point. Of the particular piece of gibberish 
you quoted, I asked: "And once again, in English this time?"
-- 
John Briggs

On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:19:39 +0100, "John Briggs"
 wrote:

>I lightly clarified his original point. Of the particular piece of gibberish 
>you quoted, I asked: "And once again, in English this time?"

My apologies for misquoting you, I can see why you would find the
association unflattering.

In MsgID on Sat, 13 Sep 2008
13:59:07 +0100, in uk.net.news.management, 'Peter Parry' wrote:

>On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 23:19:39 +0100, "John Briggs"
> wrote:
>
>>I lightly clarified his original point. Of the particular piece of gibberish 
>>you quoted, I asked: "And once again, in English this time?"
>
>My apologies for misquoting you, I can see why you would find the
>association unflattering.

I've always wondered what the Stocktoniser's like in real life.. It makes
me hesitate to think that for all we know he could actually be a fairly
sound fellow (if a bit pompous) who just can't cope properly with the
written world of usenet.

Though, yes, I too usually find his additions irritating, it's just I've
never managed to delineate exactly *why*..

Dave J.