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         First Call for Nominations for the UK Usenet Committee
                      Open Class (Four Vacancies)

Please note that, in this Call for Nominations, all email addresses,
including the application address, are munged with (at) replacing the @,
in accordance with standard practice.

Applications and Nominations are requested for the "Open" class of
membership of the UK Usenet Committee.

There are currently four Open Vacancies.

   Primary Votetaker: Barry Salter <com2k09-query (at) southie.me.uk>
 Secondary Votetaker: Jon Ribbens <j.ribbens (at) ukvoting.org.uk>
(Please only contact the secondary votetaker in an emergency)

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Definition of Open Class of Membership

Any participant in the uk.* hierarchy qualifies as a candidate in the
Open class.

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Application Requirements

Any participant in the uk.* hierarchy qualifies as a nominator for the
Open class.

Any individual may nominate a maximum of four candidates.

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Nominations must be received by 23:59:59 BST, 17th October 2009.

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Each candidate must receive four nominations. The nominators must
confirm support for their candidate(s) by replying to an email from the
votetaker. Replies must be received by 23:59:59 BST, 24th October 2009.

Please note that the usual voting rules on email address validity also
apply to all application and nomination emails. An application or
nomination cannot be accepted if the votetaker is unable to verify the
identity of the sender.

If a candidate fails to attract four confirmations from their nominators
by that deadline, they will not qualify for this round of elections.

NOTE: All applications will be released to the community by a posting
from a votetaker handling the elections as soon as they are received and
confirmed by similar method once the nominators have confirmed their
nomination.

Please note that there will be not be a period of grace for
confirmations after the deadline of 23:59:59 BST, 24th October 2009.

If candidates wish to supply more than the minimum four nominators, they
may do so. The first four qualifying confirmations received from
nominators will be announced by the votetaker as the official nominators
for each candidate.

In the event of there being more than four "Open" Candidates an election
will be held during October 2009.

Nominations *MUST* be sent to xcom2k9a (at) vote.ukvoting.org.uk.

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Persons resigning from the Committee

Open Member Class:

Fiona Gostling (aka 'Kat')
Chris Croughton
Graham Drabble
Clive D. W. Feather (coopted)

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Email: [           ]

B. Nominators - Name and Email Address

1.  Name : [           ]
1.  Email: [           ]

2.  Name : [           ]
2.  Email: [           ]

3.  Name : [           ]
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In article <yC965le06$uKFwVD@[127.0.0.1]>,
 Wm...  writes:
>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:40:33 <cfn-committee-elections-2009-20090924194033$
>4aaa@gradwell.net> uk.net.news.management Barry Salter
>
>
>
>>Fiona Gostling (aka 'Kat')
>>Chris Croughton
>>Graham Drabble
>>Clive D. W. Feather (coopted)
>
>I'd be happy for all 4 of them to stand again.
<snip>

So would I, though of course some or all of them may not wish to.
-- 
John Hall     "Do you have cornflakes in America?"
              "Well, actually, they're American."
      "So what brings you to Britain then if you have cornflakes already?"
                                  Bill Bryson: "Notes from a Small Island"

Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:31:49 <ng26T1IF4IvKFwti@jhall.demon.co.uk.invalid> 
uk.net.news.management John Hall 

>In article <yC965le06$uKFwVD@[127.0.0.1]>,
> Wm...  writes:
>>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:40:33 <cfn-committee-elections-2009-20090924194033$
>>4aaa@gradwell.net> uk.net.news.management Barry Salter
>>
>>
>>
>>>Fiona Gostling (aka 'Kat')
>>>Chris Croughton
>>>Graham Drabble
>>>Clive D. W. Feather (coopted)
>>
>>I'd be happy for all 4 of them to stand again.
><snip>
>
>So would I, though of course some or all of them may not wish to.

Which is the thing that makes Barry's message rather puzzling.  He 
hasn't said if any of them want to stand.

Do Clive, kat, Graham or Chris want to stand?  I can't tell from Barry's 
posting in spite of his apparent invitation.

-- 
Wm...
Reply-To: address valid for at least 7 days

On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:31:11 +0100, "Wm..."
 wrote:

>Which is the thing that makes Barry's message rather puzzling.  He 
>hasn't said if any of them want to stand.

No CFN has EVER indicated whether existing committee members intend to
stand for re-election.

"Wm..."  writes:
> Which is the thing that makes Barry's message rather puzzling.  He
> hasn't said if any of them want to stand.

That'd presumably be because it's a call for nominations, not an
announcement of who's standing.

-- 
http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/

Wm...  said:

> Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:31:49 <ng26T1IF4IvKFwti@jhall.demon.co.uk.invalid>
> uk.net.news.management John Hall 
>
>> In article <yC965le06$uKFwVD@[127.0.0.1]>,
>> Wm...  writes:
>>> Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:40:33
>>> <cfn-committee-elections-2009-20090924194033$ 4aaa@gradwell.net>
>>> uk.net.news.management Barry Salter 
>>>
>>>
>>>> Fiona Gostling (aka 'Kat')
>>>> Chris Croughton
>>>> Graham Drabble
>>>> Clive D. W. Feather (coopted)
>>>
>>> I'd be happy for all 4 of them to stand again.
>> <snip>
>>
>> So would I, though of course some or all of them may not wish to.
>
> Which is the thing that makes Barry's message rather puzzling.  He
> hasn't said if any of them want to stand.
>
> Do Clive, kat, Graham or Chris want to stand?  I can't tell from
> Barry's posting in spite of his apparent invitation.

 I don't suppose he knows yet.:-)


-- 
kat
   >^..^<

On 2009-09-25, Wm... wrote:

> Fri, 25 Sep 2009 10:31:49 <ng26T1IF4IvKFwti@jhall.demon.co.uk.invalid> 
> uk.net.news.management John Hall 
>
>>In article <yC965le06$uKFwVD@[127.0.0.1]>,
>> Wm...  writes:
>>>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:40:33 <cfn-committee-elections-2009-20090924194033$
>>>4aaa@gradwell.net> uk.net.news.management Barry Salter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Fiona Gostling (aka 'Kat')
>>>>Chris Croughton
>>>>Graham Drabble
>>>>Clive D. W. Feather (coopted)
>>>
>>>I'd be happy for all 4 of them to stand again.
>><snip>
>>
>>So would I, though of course some or all of them may not wish to.
>
> Which is the thing that makes Barry's message rather puzzling.  He 
> hasn't said if any of them want to stand.
>
> Do Clive, kat, Graham or Chris want to stand?  I can't tell from Barry's 
> posting in spite of his apparent invitation.

Am I reading it wrong?  It seems to me they are "persons resigning
from the committee".

On 2009-09-25, Adam Funk  wrote:
> Am I reading it wrong?  It seems to me they are "persons resigning
> from the committee".

They have to resign, it's in the rules. They can immediately stand
again though, if they want to.

On 2009-09-25, Jon Ribbens wrote:

> On 2009-09-25, Adam Funk  wrote:
>> Am I reading it wrong?  It seems to me they are "persons resigning
>> from the committee".
>
> They have to resign, it's in the rules. They can immediately stand
> again though, if they want to.

OK, thanks.  Isn't that a peculiar way of saying "reaching the end of
their term", though?

On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:44:02 +0100, Adam Funk 
wrote:

>> They have to resign, it's in the rules. They can immediately stand
>> again though, if they want to.
>
>OK, thanks.  Isn't that a peculiar way of saying "reaching the end of
>their term", though?

Yes, it is a somewhat peculiar way of putting it, and I guess only
really makes sense when read in conjunction with:

http://www.usenet.org.uk/committee.html

and even then, should perhaps say 'retire' rather than 'resign'.

But enough semantics (leaves the door open for The Happy Hippy), it's
the weekend, and does it really matter?  :-)

.m  said:

> On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:44:02 +0100, Adam Funk 
> wrote:
>
>>> They have to resign, it's in the rules. They can immediately stand
>>> again though, if they want to.
>>
>> OK, thanks.  Isn't that a peculiar way of saying "reaching the end of
>> their term", though?

It's nicer than "kicked out" though.

>
> Yes, it is a somewhat peculiar way of putting it, and I guess only
> really makes sense when read in conjunction with:
>
> http://www.usenet.org.uk/committee.html
>
> and even then, should perhaps say 'retire' rather than 'resign'.
>
> But enough semantics (leaves the door open for The Happy Hippy), it's
> the weekend, and does it really matter?  :-)

Retire might suggest we are leaving for good.  I suppose resign might too. 
Me, I am resigned, but not retiring. :-)


-- 
kat
   >^..^<

Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:37:06  
uk.net.news.management kat 

>Retire might suggest we are leaving for good.  I suppose resign might too.
>Me, I am resigned, but not retiring. :-)

Are you going to stand?  If so may I be one of your nominators?  It 
would give me a small amount of pleasure.

-- 
Wm...
Reply-To: address valid for at least 7 days

On 2009-09-25,  m wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:44:02 +0100, Adam Funk 
> wrote:
>
>>> They have to resign, it's in the rules. They can immediately stand
>>> again though, if they want to.
>>
>>OK, thanks.  Isn't that a peculiar way of saying "reaching the end of
>>their term", though?
>
> Yes, it is a somewhat peculiar way of putting it, and I guess only
> really makes sense when read in conjunction with:
>
> http://www.usenet.org.uk/committee.html
>
> and even then, should perhaps say 'retire' rather than 'resign'.
>
> But enough semantics (leaves the door open for The Happy Hippy), it's
> the weekend, and does it really matter?  :-)

Right.

Wm...  said:

> Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:37:06 
> uk.net.news.management kat 
>
>> Retire might suggest we are leaving for good.  I suppose resign
>> might too. Me, I am resigned, but not retiring. :-)
>
> Are you going to stand?  If so may I be one of your nominators?  It
> would give me a small amount of pleasure.

You should have mail.


-- 
kat
   >^..^<

kat wrote:
> Wm...  said:
> 
>> Do Clive, kat, Graham or Chris want to stand?  I can't tell from
>> Barry's posting in spite of his apparent invitation.
> 
>  I don't suppose he knows yet.:-)
> 
> 

Indeed. I may be many things. Clairvoyant is, sadly, not one of them. :D

Cheers,

Barry

On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:55:23 +0100, 
   	       Wm...  wrote:
> Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:37:06  
> uk.net.news.management kat 
>
>>Retire might suggest we are leaving for good.  I suppose resign might too.
>>Me, I am resigned, but not retiring. :-)
>
> Are you going to stand?  If so may I be one of your nominators?  It 
> would give me a small amount of pleasure.

I thought you were going to nominate Judith <g>.

-- 
Andy Leighton => andyl@azaal.plus.com
"The Lord is my shepherd, but we still lost the sheep dog trials" 
   - Robert Rankin, _They Came And Ate Us_

On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:37:06 +0100, "kat" 
wrote:

>Retire might suggest we are leaving for good.  I suppose resign might too. 
>Me, I am resigned, but not retiring. :-)

Well actually 'standing down' is probably better, but retire, within
the context of the document is more understandable.

P'raps an RFD on 'kicked out' would be fun :-)

kat  wrote:

> Wm...  said:

> > Are you going to stand?  If so may I be one of your nominators?  It
> > would give me a small amount of pleasure.

Barf.

In uk.net.news.management on Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:40:33 +0100, Barry
Salter  wrote:

> Persons resigning from the Committee
>
> Open Member Class:
>
> Fiona Gostling (aka 'Kat')
> Chris Croughton
> Graham Drabble
> Clive D. W. Feather (coopted)

If Graham is standing again and needs support for his nomination
papers, let him email me. 


-- 
PJR :-)
news.admin.announce (a low-volume, moderated Usenet group)
Read and post announcements of interest to news administrators.
See <http://www.robomod.net/news.admin.announce/info.html>.

In uk.net.news.management on Fri, 25 Sep 2009 00:20:20 +0100, Wm...
 wrote:

> Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:40:33 
> <cfn-committee-elections-2009-20090924194033$4aaa@gradwell.net> 
> uk.net.news.management Barry Salter 
>
>>Fiona Gostling (aka 'Kat')
>>Chris Croughton
>>Graham Drabble
>>Clive D. W. Feather (coopted)
>
> I'd be happy for all 4 of them to stand again.

Me too.

But if any of them wants to retire, I think we should be told in
public, so we can arrange a replacement.


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>Fiona Gostling (aka 'Kat')
>Chris Croughton
>Graham Drabble
>Clive D. W. Feather (coopted)

I''ll second/third/whatever any of the existing members, reply-to works if
they need a name on the form.

-- 
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[ anything below this line wasn't written by me ]

.m wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:44:02 +0100, Adam Funk 
> wrote:
> 
>>> They have to resign, it's in the rules. They can immediately stand
>>> again though, if they want to.
>> OK, thanks.  Isn't that a peculiar way of saying "reaching the end of
>> their term", though?
> 
> Yes, it is a somewhat peculiar way of putting it, and I guess only
> really makes sense when read in conjunction with:
> 
> http://www.usenet.org.uk/committee.html
> 
> and even then, should perhaps say 'retire' rather than 'resign'.
> 
> But enough semantics (leaves the door open for The Happy Hippy), it's
> the weekend, and does it really matter?  :-)
> 
> 
Actually, it seems that "The Committee Document" refers to it as 
"retiring" from the Committee. My apologies, as I just cut 'n' pasted 
from last year's CFN.

Cheers,

Barry

On 24 Sep 2009, you wrote in uk.net.news.management:


> Persons resigning from the Committee
> 
> Open Member Class:
> 
> Fiona Gostling (aka 'Kat')
> Chris Croughton
> Graham Drabble
> Clive D. W. Feather (coopted)

Having thought about this, and partly due to the lack of other people, 
I've decided I'm happy to stand again.

If anyone is prepared to nominate me then please email me.

Thanks,
-- 
Graham Drabble
"Usenet is mostly just a geek entertainment system that far too many 
people try to pretend as some type of "real" value to society."
   Curt Welch - news.software.nntp

Barry Salter  wrote:
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>         First Call for Nominations for the UK Usenet Committee
>                      Open Class (Four Vacancies)

Hi,  I'm curious.  Is that just a standard form of words or are there
circumstances in which there'd be a Second Call for Nominations?

-- 
eleanor@the-blairs.co.uk                          http://lnr.livejournal.com/

On 09 Oct 2009 13:57:32 +0100 (BST), Eleanor Blair
 wrote:

>Barry Salter  wrote:
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>>         First Call for Nominations for the UK Usenet Committee
>>                      Open Class (Four Vacancies)
>
>Hi,  I'm curious.  Is that just a standard form of words or are there
>circumstances in which there'd be a Second Call for Nominations?

Yep, it usually comes next...
-- 
Geoff Berrow (Put thecat out to email)
It's only Usenet, no one dies.
My opinions, not the committee's, mine.
Simple RFDs www.ckdog.co.uk/rfdmaker

Geoff Berrow  wrote:
>On 09 Oct 2009 13:57:32 +0100 (BST), Eleanor Blair
> wrote:
>
>>Barry Salter  wrote:
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>>>         First Call for Nominations for the UK Usenet Committee
>>>                      Open Class (Four Vacancies)
>>
>>Hi,  I'm curious.  Is that just a standard form of words or are there
>>circumstances in which there'd be a Second Call for Nominations?
>
>Yep, it usually comes next...

Oh, OK, there just doesn't seem to be much time or need for one when the
deadline is next week.

-- 
eleanor@the-blairs.co.uk                          http://lnr.livejournal.com/

Eleanor Blair wrote:
> Geoff Berrow  wrote:
>> On 09 Oct 2009 13:57:32 +0100 (BST), Eleanor Blair
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> Barry Salter  wrote:
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>>>>         First Call for Nominations for the UK Usenet Committee
>>>>                      Open Class (Four Vacancies)
>>> Hi,  I'm curious.  Is that just a standard form of words or are there
>>> circumstances in which there'd be a Second Call for Nominations?
>> Yep, it usually comes next...
> 
> Oh, OK, there just doesn't seem to be much time or need for one when the
> deadline is next week.
> 
Oops. My mistake. Forgot to prod Control into posting it due to a hectic 
time at work. It should appear shortly.

Cheers,

Barry

-- 
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DISCLAIMER: The above is my personal opinion, and does not necessarily
reflect the opinion of UKVoting as a whole.