In uk.net.news.config on Sun, 16 Aug 2009 03:34:36 +0100, Dave J
 wrote:

> In MsgID on Sat, 15 Aug 2009 19:06:57
> +0100, in uk.net.news.config, 'kat' wrote:
>
>>> Why is it elitist to say they need to be 'educated' ? If he'd said
>>> they need to be kicked out or killfiled or ignored in some way then
>>> maybe, but to say they need some input from someone who *does* know
>>> how it ticks (this presumably includes from him) seems inclusive
>>> rather than elitist.
>>
>> The wording of his post suggests that users of a variety of clients are 
>>using inadequate software and need to be educated.  Not some.  
>
> Oh. Well, to me a statement that someone needs to be educated is not
> inflammatory. Even (in fact especially) if (when!) that someone is me.

If you tire of Agent 1.93 and want suggestions for your next
newsreader, I have a few ideas.

<...>

> I'm perhaps midway between your attitude and Peter's (or rather your
> perception of Peter's - I rate him at an order or so more welcoming than
> you think).

Thanks. kat's attitude is probably more like mine than she thinks.

<...>

> I don't think PJR has any objection to beginner groups, where people can
> learn to chat, learn about acceptable layout, be told about the various
> clients and about how groups are defined/created/removed; the very basics
> that are necessary. They can also be introduced to the four letter acronym
> that most resembles 'food' if they reject the information. They can then
> either depart or learn to enjoy living in killfiles.

Do such beginner groups exist? I subscribe to groups like
news.newusers.questions and news.groups.questions, but it's unusual to
see non-spam posts in either of them.

<...>

> Congratulations if you've read all the way down here. I really shouldn't
> allow waffle-based postings at three o'clock in the morning :-) 

I confess to having skimmed some of the bits that weren't about me.
:-)



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