On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 03:29:34 -0700 (PDT), 
   	  Nuxx Bar  wrote:
> On Jul 4, 11:12 am, Andy Leighton  wrote:
>> On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 10:17:33 +0100,
>>            Tom Crispin <kije.rem...@this.bit.freeuk.com.munge> wrote:
>> >
>> > It seems to me that a lot of discussion has gone on, by the
>> > moderators, away from the RFD to shape moderation policy.
>>
>> I've been on holiday and obviously haven't posted for a few weeks.  But
>> moderation policy is initially shaped and formed by the moderation
>> panel.  Are you surprised it is discussed elsewhere - we need to form
>> our opinions of how policy will be implemented and how we will deal
>> with certain issues when they crop up.

It's a good job someone replied to you as I have you killfiled normally.

> Can you confirm that there has been no discussion about censoring
> certain people or certain points of view?  Can you confirm that there
> are no hidden agendas behind the proposal?

Yes.  I can confirm that there has been no discussion about censoring
certain people or certain points of view.  Obviously certain subjects
are off topic according to the charter and will be moderated out but
that is the case for any moderated group.  We haven't discussed those.
The only agendum that the moderators have is to have a civil, pleasant 
group which is of interest to cyclists.

> I agree that moderation != censorship.  But what is being proposed is
> not moderation: it's censorship (dressed up as moderation), of
> particular points of view that some people don't want to read 

No.  Certain subjects are off-topic and will be rejected.  This is the
same for all moderated groups.  If your post isn't of interest to 
cyclists, or isn't civil then it will be rejected.  Nearly all of your
posts I saw before I killfiled you were in one of those two camps.

> Apart from saying a lot about the
> character of such people, the proposal is therefore a deception, and
> should be voted against on principle.

Are you going to vote then?  You do realise that you will have step out
from behind your mask.

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Andy Leighton => andyl@azaal.plus.com
"The Lord is my shepherd, but we still lost the sheep dog trials" 
   - Robert Rankin, _They Came And Ate Us_