REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
            unmoderated group uk.rec.gardening.allotments

This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of the
unmoderated Usenet newsgroup, uk.rec.gardening.allotments


NEWSGROUPS LINE: uk.rec.gardening.allotments




RATIONALE: uk.rec.gardening.allotments

The objective is to create a newsgroup in which 'Allotment holders'
can discuss allotment issues.
I have searched to find many allotment web sites and found that if
this group was opened it would allow all allotment (and would be)
allotment holders to to exchange views in one convenient place.
This in turn would give valued exchange of views by every visitor.
To also pick up tips and sometimes tricks into allotment gardening.
One place that all Allotment holders can come to discuss any problems.
Quite a few Allotments being taken over from the councils with self managed 
proposals
and this newsgroup will be able to disuss this.
Allotments are a UK institution (and worldwide) and we should have a place 
for it.




CHARTER:

uk.rec.gardening.allotments is an unmoderated newsgroup which will
serve as a forum for discussing the tradition of Allotment gardening.  It is
not on-topic to post commercial or personal ads of any kind to
uk.rec.allotments.  Debate is on-topic, but personal attacks
are heavily frowned upon.  Posts containing binaries are not on-topic,
with the exception of PGP type signatures and X-Face avatars.  All posts
must be in plain text and not in HTML.





PROCEDURE:

For more information on the newsgroup creation process, please see:

  http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:creation

Those who wish to influence the development of this RFD and its final
resolution should subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the
relevant threads in that newsgroup.  This is both a courtesy to groups in
which discussion of creating a new group is off-topic as well as the best
method of making sure that one's comments or criticisms are heard.

All discussion of active proposals should be posted to 
news.groups.proposals.
To this end, the 'Followup-To' header of this RFD has been set to this 
group.

If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the discussion
may be crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken to ensure
that all discussion appears in news.groups.proposals as well.

We urge those who would like to read or post in the proposed newsgroup
to make a comment to that effect in this thread; we ask proponents to
keep a list of such positive posts with the relevant message ID
(e.g., Barney Fife, ).
Such lists of positive feedback for the proposal may constitute good
evidence that the group will be well-used if it is created.




DISTRIBUTION:

This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:

  uk.net.news.config
  uk.net.news.announce
  uk.rec.gardening

PROPONENT:

G.Poston 



CHANGE HISTORY:
2004-3-22      1st RFD
2008-01-27     2nd RFD

Could someone post this to uk.net.news.announce  for me

Thanks


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"Gary Poston"  wrote in message 
news:j46dnac9345tQAbaRVnyhAA@bt.com...
> REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
>            unmoderated group uk.rec.gardening.allotments
>
> This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of the
> unmoderated Usenet newsgroup, uk.rec.gardening.allotments
>
>
> NEWSGROUPS LINE: uk.rec.gardening.allotments
>
>
>
>
> RATIONALE: uk.rec.gardening.allotments
>
> The objective is to create a newsgroup in which 'Allotment holders'
> can discuss allotment issues.
> I have searched to find many allotment web sites and found that if
> this group was opened it would allow all allotment (and would be)
> allotment holders to to exchange views in one convenient place.
> This in turn would give valued exchange of views by every visitor.
> To also pick up tips and sometimes tricks into allotment gardening.
> One place that all Allotment holders can come to discuss any problems.
> Quite a few Allotments being taken over from the councils with self 
> managed proposals
> and this newsgroup will be able to disuss this.
> Allotments are a UK institution (and worldwide) and we should have a place 
> for it.
>
>
>
>
> CHARTER:
>
> uk.rec.gardening.allotments is an unmoderated newsgroup which will
> serve as a forum for discussing the tradition of Allotment gardening.  It 
> is
> not on-topic to post commercial or personal ads of any kind to
> uk.rec.allotments.  Debate is on-topic, but personal attacks
> are heavily frowned upon.  Posts containing binaries are not on-topic,
> with the exception of PGP type signatures and X-Face avatars.  All posts
> must be in plain text and not in HTML.
>
>
>
>
>
> PROCEDURE:
>
> For more information on the newsgroup creation process, please see:
>
>  http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:creation
>
> Those who wish to influence the development of this RFD and its final
> resolution should subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in 
> the
> relevant threads in that newsgroup.  This is both a courtesy to groups in
> which discussion of creating a new group is off-topic as well as the best
> method of making sure that one's comments or criticisms are heard.
>
> All discussion of active proposals should be posted to 
> news.groups.proposals.
> To this end, the 'Followup-To' header of this RFD has been set to this 
> group.
>
> If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the discussion
> may be crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken to ensure
> that all discussion appears in news.groups.proposals as well.
>
> We urge those who would like to read or post in the proposed newsgroup
> to make a comment to that effect in this thread; we ask proponents to
> keep a list of such positive posts with the relevant message ID
> (e.g., Barney Fife, ).
> Such lists of positive feedback for the proposal may constitute good
> evidence that the group will be well-used if it is created.
>
>
>
>
> DISTRIBUTION:
>
> This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:
>
>  uk.net.news.config
>  uk.net.news.announce
>  uk.rec.gardening
>
> PROPONENT:
>
> G.Poston 
>
>
>
> CHANGE HISTORY:
> 2004-3-22      1st RFD
> 2008-01-27     2nd RFD
>
>
>

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:52:11 -0000, "Gary Poston"
 wrote:

>
>
>Could someone post this to uk.net.news.announce  for me
>
>Thanks

NO!

Now, fuck off, CUNT!


>
>This e-mail and any attachments are strictly confidential and intended for 
>the addressee only. If you are not the named addressee you must not 
>disclose, copy or take any action in reliance of this transmission and you 
>should notify us as soon as possible.
>
>
>"Gary Poston"  wrote in message 
>news:j46dnac9345tQAbaRVnyhAA@bt.com...
>> REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
>>            unmoderated group uk.rec.gardening.allotments
>>
>> This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of the
>> unmoderated Usenet newsgroup, uk.rec.gardening.allotments
>>
>>
>> NEWSGROUPS LINE: uk.rec.gardening.allotments
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> RATIONALE: uk.rec.gardening.allotments
>>
>> The objective is to create a newsgroup in which 'Allotment holders'
>> can discuss allotment issues.
>> I have searched to find many allotment web sites and found that if
>> this group was opened it would allow all allotment (and would be)
>> allotment holders to to exchange views in one convenient place.
>> This in turn would give valued exchange of views by every visitor.
>> To also pick up tips and sometimes tricks into allotment gardening.
>> One place that all Allotment holders can come to discuss any problems.
>> Quite a few Allotments being taken over from the councils with self 
>> managed proposals
>> and this newsgroup will be able to disuss this.
>> Allotments are a UK institution (and worldwide) and we should have a place 
>> for it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> CHARTER:
>>
>> uk.rec.gardening.allotments is an unmoderated newsgroup which will
>> serve as a forum for discussing the tradition of Allotment gardening.  It 
>> is
>> not on-topic to post commercial or personal ads of any kind to
>> uk.rec.allotments.  Debate is on-topic, but personal attacks
>> are heavily frowned upon.  Posts containing binaries are not on-topic,
>> with the exception of PGP type signatures and X-Face avatars.  All posts
>> must be in plain text and not in HTML.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> PROCEDURE:
>>
>> For more information on the newsgroup creation process, please see:
>>
>>  http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:creation
>>
>> Those who wish to influence the development of this RFD and its final
>> resolution should subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in 
>> the
>> relevant threads in that newsgroup.  This is both a courtesy to groups in
>> which discussion of creating a new group is off-topic as well as the best
>> method of making sure that one's comments or criticisms are heard.
>>
>> All discussion of active proposals should be posted to 
>> news.groups.proposals.
>> To this end, the 'Followup-To' header of this RFD has been set to this 
>> group.
>>
>> If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the discussion
>> may be crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken to ensure
>> that all discussion appears in news.groups.proposals as well.
>>
>> We urge those who would like to read or post in the proposed newsgroup
>> to make a comment to that effect in this thread; we ask proponents to
>> keep a list of such positive posts with the relevant message ID
>> (e.g., Barney Fife, ).
>> Such lists of positive feedback for the proposal may constitute good
>> evidence that the group will be well-used if it is created.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> DISTRIBUTION:
>>
>> This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:
>>
>>  uk.net.news.config
>>  uk.net.news.announce
>>  uk.rec.gardening
>>
>> PROPONENT:
>>
>> G.Poston 
>>
>>
>>
>> CHANGE HISTORY:
>> 2004-3-22      1st RFD
>> 2008-01-27     2nd RFD
>>
>>
>> 
>

LOL!

I expect its the type of person your are :)


>
>>
>>
>>Could someone post this to uk.net.news.announce  for me
>>
>>Thanks
>
> NO!
>
> Now, fuck off, CUNT!
>
>
>>
>>This e-mail and any attachments are strictly confidential and intended for
>>the addressee only. If you are not the named addressee you must not
>>disclose, copy or take any action in reliance of this transmission and you
>>should notify us as soon as possible.
>>
>>
>>"Gary Poston"  wrote in message
>>news:j46dnac9345tQAbaRVnyhAA@bt.com...
>>> REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
>>>            unmoderated group uk.rec.gardening.allotments
>>>
>>> This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of the
>>> unmoderated Usenet newsgroup, uk.rec.gardening.allotments
>>>
>>>
>>> NEWSGROUPS LINE: uk.rec.gardening.allotments
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> RATIONALE: uk.rec.gardening.allotments
>>>
>>> The objective is to create a newsgroup in which 'Allotment holders'
>>> can discuss allotment issues.
>>> I have searched to find many allotment web sites and found that if
>>> this group was opened it would allow all allotment (and would be)
>>> allotment holders to to exchange views in one convenient place.
>>> This in turn would give valued exchange of views by every visitor.
>>> To also pick up tips and sometimes tricks into allotment gardening.
>>> One place that all Allotment holders can come to discuss any problems.
>>> Quite a few Allotments being taken over from the councils with self
>>> managed proposals
>>> and this newsgroup will be able to disuss this.
>>> Allotments are a UK institution (and worldwide) and we should have a 
>>> place
>>> for it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> CHARTER:
>>>
>>> uk.rec.gardening.allotments is an unmoderated newsgroup which will
>>> serve as a forum for discussing the tradition of Allotment gardening. 
>>> It
>>> is
>>> not on-topic to post commercial or personal ads of any kind to
>>> uk.rec.allotments.  Debate is on-topic, but personal attacks
>>> are heavily frowned upon.  Posts containing binaries are not on-topic,
>>> with the exception of PGP type signatures and X-Face avatars.  All posts
>>> must be in plain text and not in HTML.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> PROCEDURE:
>>>
>>> For more information on the newsgroup creation process, please see:
>>>
>>>  http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:creation
>>>
>>> Those who wish to influence the development of this RFD and its final
>>> resolution should subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in
>>> the
>>> relevant threads in that newsgroup.  This is both a courtesy to groups 
>>> in
>>> which discussion of creating a new group is off-topic as well as the 
>>> best
>>> method of making sure that one's comments or criticisms are heard.
>>>
>>> All discussion of active proposals should be posted to
>>> news.groups.proposals.
>>> To this end, the 'Followup-To' header of this RFD has been set to this
>>> group.
>>>
>>> If desired by the readership of closely affected groups, the discussion
>>> may be crossposted to those groups, but care must be taken to ensure
>>> that all discussion appears in news.groups.proposals as well.
>>>
>>> We urge those who would like to read or post in the proposed newsgroup
>>> to make a comment to that effect in this thread; we ask proponents to
>>> keep a list of such positive posts with the relevant message ID
>>> (e.g., Barney Fife, ).
>>> Such lists of positive feedback for the proposal may constitute good
>>> evidence that the group will be well-used if it is created.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> DISTRIBUTION:
>>>
>>> This document has been posted to the following newsgroups:
>>>
>>>  uk.net.news.config
>>>  uk.net.news.announce
>>>  uk.rec.gardening
>>>
>>> PROPONENT:
>>>
>>> G.Poston 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> CHANGE HISTORY:
>>> 2004-3-22      1st RFD
>>> 2008-01-27     2nd RFD
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

In message , at 01:52:11 on 
Sun, 27 Jan 2008, Gary Poston  wibbled
>
>
>Could someone post this to uk.net.news.announce  for me

The correct procedure, as you should know from your previous RFD for 
creating this newsgroup, is to email the RFD to Control who can be found 
at control (at) usenet.org.uk  [replace " (at) " with "@"]

You may wish to visit http://www.usenet.org.uk/guidelines.html as uk.* 
is not in the Big-8.

-- 
Pedt
uk.announce ~ moderated group to announce news / events of specific interest to
a wider uk.* readership than the group(s) which their subjects would naturally
place them. See charter at <http://www.usenet.org.uk/uk.announce.html>

Opps, Thanks for the info Pedt

Gary



"Pedt" <"\"@ @\""@user-unknown.mx2.org.uk> wrote in message 
news:QlRlIw2+KBnHFwOj@user-unknown.mx2.org.uk...
> In message , at 01:52:11 on Sun, 
> 27 Jan 2008, Gary Poston  wibbled
>>
>>
>>Could someone post this to uk.net.news.announce  for me
>
> The correct procedure, as you should know from your previous RFD for 
> creating this newsgroup, is to email the RFD to Control who can be found 
> at control (at) usenet.org.uk  [replace " (at) " with "@"]
>
> You may wish to visit http://www.usenet.org.uk/guidelines.html as uk.* is 
> not in the Big-8.
>
> -- 
> Pedt
> uk.announce ~ moderated group to announce news / events of specific 
> interest to
> a wider uk.* readership than the group(s) which their subjects would 
> naturally
> place them. See charter at <http://www.usenet.org.uk/uk.announce.html>

Message-ID:  from Gary Poston
contained the following:

>Opps, Thanks for the info Pedt

You may also find
www.ckdog.co.uk/rfdmaker/
useful

-- 
Geoff Berrow (put thecat out to email)
It's only Usenet, no one dies.
My opinions, not the committee's, mine.
Simple RFDs http://www.ckdog.co.uk/rfdmaker/

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:27:12 -0000, "Gary Poston"
 wrote:

>Allotments are a UK institution

So are sheds :-)

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 14:56:18 +0000, Geoff Berrow  wrote:

>Message-ID:  from Gary Poston
>contained the following:
>
>>Opps, Thanks for the info Pedt
>
>You may also find
>www.ckdog.co.uk/rfdmaker/
>useful

and the final copy of the previous allotment RFD?
-- 

Martin

Sun, 27 Jan 2008 21:27:34  
uk.net.news.config Mother <"@ {m} @"@101fc.net>

>On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 01:27:12 -0000, "Gary Poston"
> wrote:
>
>>Allotments are a UK institution
>
>So are sheds :-)
>
That'll explain the OP's delay in actually getting around to wondering 
what he meant in 2004.  Obviously some shed and allotment users aren't 
fairly represented in Viz.

I think a reasonable charge of 149 Fulchester pence should be paid to a 
charity for frivolous RFDs.  If we backdated that our clown would be 
bankrupt.  Worth a thought?

-- 
Wm...
Reply-To: address valid for at least 7 days

In uk.net.news.config on Sun, 27 Jan 2008 14:56:18 +0000, Geoff Berrow
 wrote:

> Message-ID:  from Gary Poston
> contained the following:
>
>>Opps, Thanks for the info Pedt
>
> You may also find
> www.ckdog.co.uk/rfdmaker/
> useful

And perhaps <http://pjr.gotdns.org/usenet/validator>. (That's a
temporary URL for beta-testing only.)

See also the thrilling announcement of version 0.1.0 (beta):

Message-ID: 
<http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.config/msg/44665abb6f52b97d>

PHP source code is available on request.

Comments are very welcome.

Would I be right in thinking that uk.* doesn't allow underscores in
newsgroup names, or name components longer than 20 characters? At
present I've implemented some customisations for alt.* and Big-8
rules, and I'd like to help uk.* proponents too.

-- 
PJR :-)