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date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 08:49:34 GMT,    group: uk.tech.tv.video.pvr        back       
Cyberhome 1600   
I bought a Cyberhome 1600 DVD recorder from my local Asda Supermarket and I 
am very impressed. At £68 its a steal.

Strange though in the the manunual states that it cant record DVD-R or 
DVD-RW but I found it could. It can record from scart (cable TV) and 
terrestrial and freeview, also I can play the DVD recorded on it on my PC.

The only problem I have is when I set it up to record and decided when it 
started to record I wanted to stop it and progrm for another time slot it 
would not let me do it although it states in the manual it can( by pressing 
the standby On/off button.

Has anyone any experience of the Cyberhome 1600?

MikeS
date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 08:49:34 GMT   author:   MikeS mikesansom@hotmail .com

Re: Cyberhome 1600   
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 08:49:34 GMT, "MikeS" <mikesansom@hotmail .com>
wrote:

>I bought a Cyberhome 1600 DVD recorder from my local Asda Supermarket and I 
>am very impressed. At £68 its a steal.
>
>Strange though in the the manunual states that it cant record DVD-R or 
>DVD-RW but I found it could. It can record from scart (cable TV) and 
>terrestrial and freeview, also I can play the DVD recorded on it on my PC.
>
>The only problem I have is when I set it up to record and decided when it 
>started to record I wanted to stop it and progrm for another time slot it 
>would not let me do it although it states in the manual it can( by pressing 
>the standby On/off button.
>
>Has anyone any experience of the Cyberhome 1600?
>
>MikeS 
>
I have just bought a Cyberhome 1600, faulty out of the box, it will
not recognise any DVD or audio cd. I am not risking another duff one
so will ask for a refund next week.

Sorry for the putdown on the 1600, mybe its just my experience.

Paul
date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 10:20:15 +0000   author:   Paul

Re: Cyberhome 1600   
"Paul"  wrote in message 
news:6fhgv11ub8eohdtlunj08pbvsamjuij9s8@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 08:49:34 GMT, "MikeS" <mikesansom@hotmail .com>
> wrote:
>
>>I bought a Cyberhome 1600 DVD recorder from my local Asda Supermarket and 
>>I
>>am very impressed. At £68 its a steal.
>>
>>Strange though in the the manunual states that it cant record DVD-R or
>>DVD-RW but I found it could. It can record from scart (cable TV) and
>>terrestrial and freeview, also I can play the DVD recorded on it on my PC.
>>
>>The only problem I have is when I set it up to record and decided when it
>>started to record I wanted to stop it and progrm for another time slot it
>>would not let me do it although it states in the manual it can( by 
>>pressing
>>the standby On/off button.
>>
>>Has anyone any experience of the Cyberhome 1600?
>>
>>MikeS
>>
> I have just bought a Cyberhome 1600, faulty out of the box, it will
> not recognise any DVD or audio cd. I am not risking another duff one
> so will ask for a refund next week.
>
> Sorry for the putdown on the 1600, mybe its just my experience.
>
> Paul
Paul,
Sorry for your experience what an awfull shame.
I must admit if that if had happed to me it would bias my opinion.
Like all electronic gear it either goes wrong in a short time or lasts (it
seems ) for ever.
It would be fairer on the Cyberhome 1600 to have the opinion of a lot more 
people.

Best of luck MikeS
date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:23:13 GMT   author:   MikeS mikesansom@hotmail .com

Re: Cyberhome 1600   
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:23:13 GMT, "MikeS" <mikesansom@hotmail .com>
wrote:

>Like all electronic gear it either goes wrong in a short time or lasts (it
>seems ) for ever.

In my experience it either goes wrong in a short time or a week after
the guarantee runs out.
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date: Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:57:14 +0000   author:   Andrew spamtrap@localhost.

Re: Cyberhome 1600   
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:23:13 GMT, "MikeS" <mikesansom@hotmail .com>
wrote:

>
>"Paul"  wrote in message 
>news:6fhgv11ub8eohdtlunj08pbvsamjuij9s8@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 08:49:34 GMT, "MikeS" <mikesansom@hotmail .com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>I bought a Cyberhome 1600 DVD recorder from my local Asda Supermarket and 
>>>I
>>>am very impressed. At £68 its a steal.
>>>
>>>Strange though in the the manunual states that it cant record DVD-R or
>>>DVD-RW but I found it could. It can record from scart (cable TV) and
>>>terrestrial and freeview, also I can play the DVD recorded on it on my PC.
>>>
>>>The only problem I have is when I set it up to record and decided when it
>>>started to record I wanted to stop it and progrm for another time slot it
>>>would not let me do it although it states in the manual it can( by 
>>>pressing
>>>the standby On/off button.
>>>
>>>Has anyone any experience of the Cyberhome 1600?
>>>
>>>MikeS
>>>
>> I have just bought a Cyberhome 1600, faulty out of the box, it will
>> not recognise any DVD or audio cd. I am not risking another duff one
>> so will ask for a refund next week.
>>
>> Sorry for the putdown on the 1600, mybe its just my experience.
>>
>> Paul
>Paul,
>Sorry for your experience what an awfull shame.
>I must admit if that if had happed to me it would bias my opinion.
>Like all electronic gear it either goes wrong in a short time or lasts (it
>seems ) for ever.
>It would be fairer on the Cyberhome 1600 to have the opinion of a lot more 
>people.
>
>Best of luck MikeS
>
Yes I have to admit the 1600 was good value, I have now bought a Sony,
but it was twice the price.

 Having no experience of DVD recorders before and now of two different
models within a week I can only say the obvious drawbacks of the 1600
are:
1. It does not output a DTS signal from a prerecorded DVD.
2. It does not passthrough RGB from my Freeview Box.

But as I said the Sony RGR GX 210 is twice the price.

Paul
date: Wed, 22 Feb 2006 08:14:13 +0000   author:   Paul

Re: Cyberhome 1600   
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:23:13 GMT, "MikeS" <mikesansom@hotmail .com>
wrote:

>Sorry for your experience what an awfull shame.
>I must admit if that if had happed to me it would bias my opinion.
>Like all electronic gear it either goes wrong in a short time or lasts (it
>seems ) for ever.
>It would be fairer on the Cyberhome 1600 to have the opinion of a lot more 
>people.

I have just returned one that was a Christmas present to a reelative
but not set up till mid-January.    Last week it stopped reading disks
of al types.   Having seen these posts and ones on  www.epinions.com
it has been taken back for a refund rather than exchange.
date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 14:55:01 +0000   author:   Nobody me

Re: Cyberhome 1600   
wrote in message 
news:1140980783.792641.134120@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> Nobody wrote:
>> On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 09:23:13 GMT, "MikeS" <mikesansom@hotmail .com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Sorry for your experience what an awfull shame.
>> >I must admit if that if had happed to me it would bias my opinion.
>> >Like all electronic gear it either goes wrong in a short time or lasts 
>> >(it
>> >seems ) for ever.
>> >It would be fairer on the Cyberhome 1600 to have the opinion of a lot 
>> >more
>> >people.
>>
>> I have just returned one that was a Christmas present to a reelative
>> but not set up till mid-January.    Last week it stopped reading disks
>> of al types.   Having seen these posts and ones on  www.epinions.com
>> it has been taken back for a refund rather than exchange.
>
> Having helped a lot of people with their DVRs after buying a few
> myself, I have a few observations:
>
> 1. These are complex devices, and the instructions included with them
> are entirely inadequate. I would guess that more than half of the
> problems for which people return these units are due to user error.
>

Like not being able to mind read!  Seriosly the Cyber home states that one 
cannot record on DVD-r or RW's but it can.

The firm ware update shown on tthe Cyberhome website cannot be used in 
machine made for Asda UK Asda are waiting for the update from the 
manufacteres (so they say) I note the model number is identical to the one 
shown on Cyberhome's web site.

MikeS

> 2. All of the DVRs, expensive ones as well as cheap ones, are full of
> design faults and firmware bugs. They have clearly been rushed to
> market with insufficient consumer-grade testing. There's a lot of user
> frustration with these problems, but if you want to use advanced
> technology, you just have to put up with the problems for the moment
> and pray for firmware updates.
>
> 3. The cheapest Chinese off-brands deliver amazing value for the money,
> having just as much functionality as the more expensive name-brand
> units. However some of them are so cheaply made that they have a very
> high failure rate - overheating, burned-out power supplies,
> malfunctioning drives etc.. I'm not sure they're worth the risk for
> most people.
>
date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 13:13:10 GMT   author:   MikeS mikesansom@hotmail .com

Re: Cyberhome 1600   
Exp315@canada.com wrote:
> 3. The cheapest Chinese off-brands deliver amazing value for the money,
> having just as much functionality as the more expensive name-brand
> units. However some of them are so cheaply made that they have a very
> high failure rate - overheating, burned-out power supplies,
> malfunctioning drives etc.. I'm not sure they're worth the risk for
> most people.

Enjoy the cheap chinese units while they last :-) Eventually, the 
chinese are going to get their heads around good design and quality 
control (indeed QC is possible as western big brands manufacture 
perfectly good product there already) and the price is going to rocket 
upwards - and goods widely desirable. If in the west we lose the 
advantage of our supposedly better education and top design skills and 
suffer a depressed economy, the chinese and indian subcontinent will be 
doing very well supplying all of us and taking full advantage of all the 
west->east 'technology transfer' going on.

-- 
Adrian C
date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 00:09:56 +0000   author:   Adrian C lid

Re: Cyberhome 1600   
In article ,
   Adrian C <email@here.invalid> wrote:
> Exp315@canada.com wrote:
> > 3. The cheapest Chinese off-brands deliver amazing value for the money,
> > having just as much functionality as the more expensive name-brand
> > units. However some of them are so cheaply made that they have a very
> > high failure rate - overheating, burned-out power supplies,
> > malfunctioning drives etc.. I'm not sure they're worth the risk for
> > most people.

> Enjoy the cheap chinese units while they last :-) Eventually, the 
> chinese are going to get their heads around good design and quality 
> control (indeed QC is possible as western big brands manufacture 
> perfectly good product there already) and the price is going to rocket 
> upwards - and goods widely desirable. If in the west we lose the 
> advantage of our supposedly better education and top design skills and 
> suffer a depressed economy, the chinese and indian subcontinent will be 
> doing very well supplying all of us and taking full advantage of all the 
> west->east 'technology transfer' going on.

The greatest increase using indigenous graduate education, 
including systems programming and computer design ability 
is presently within the Indian sub-continent.  California 
is becoming little more than an artistic design studio, 
flouncing around the beautiful beach life..

The Chinese ..starting off, as it were, relatively 'green 
field' are setting up latest high-tech factories that not 
only include the latest repetitive robots where required, 
but with access to a self-disciplined and educated work force, 
well used to fine manipulative skills and serious quality 
control.  They are certainly not ignorant peasants ..having 
been endowed with high levels of civilisation long before 
Western Europeans had stopped peeing themselves in the woad...

No, I don't think we can claim to be 'better educated', 
just differently educated ..a difference that the Chinese, 
(for they are many peoples), have an uncluttered ability 
to exploit - as they have throughout the last couple or 
three thousand or more years, when necessity or mood has 
taken them...

It's a moot point whether or not our young well educated 
have yet recovered the motivation, work ethic and social 
disposition to emulate the more successful traits any of 
the hungry tiger econonmies of the Pacific Rim  So, for 
the moment ..and perhaps for the forseeable future unless 
we take great care, it might be more true to say...

....they do the business  ...we serve the pizzas! (if lucky)!

:))

Bill ZFC

-- 
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date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 02:54:46 +0000 (GMT)   author:   Bill ZFC

Re: Cyberhome 1600   
"Bill ZFC"  wrote in message 
news:4e000ea476newsmaster@billsimpson.com...
> In article ,
>   Adrian C <email@here.invalid> wrote:
>> Exp315@canada.com wrote:
>> > 3. The cheapest Chinese off-brands deliver amazing value for the money,
>> > having just as much functionality as the more expensive name-brand
>> > units. However some of them are so cheaply made that they have a very
>> > high failure rate - overheating, burned-out power supplies,
>> > malfunctioning drives etc.. I'm not sure they're worth the risk for
>> > most people.
>
>> Enjoy the cheap chinese units while they last :-) Eventually, the
>> chinese are going to get their heads around good design and quality
>> control (indeed QC is possible as western big brands manufacture
>> perfectly good product there already) and the price is going to rocket
>> upwards - and goods widely desirable. If in the west we lose the
>> advantage of our supposedly better education and top design skills and
>> suffer a depressed economy, the chinese and indian subcontinent will be
>> doing very well supplying all of us and taking full advantage of all the
>> west->east 'technology transfer' going on.
>
> The greatest increase using indigenous graduate education,
> including systems programming and computer design ability
> is presently within the Indian sub-continent.  California
> is becoming little more than an artistic design studio,
> flouncing around the beautiful beach life..
>
> The Chinese ..starting off, as it were, relatively 'green
> field' are setting up latest high-tech factories that not
> only include the latest repetitive robots where required,
> but with access to a self-disciplined and educated work force,
> well used to fine manipulative skills and serious quality
> control.  They are certainly not ignorant peasants ..having
> been endowed with high levels of civilisation long before
> Western Europeans had stopped peeing themselves in the woad...
>
> No, I don't think we can claim to be 'better educated',
> just differently educated ..a difference that the Chinese,
> (for they are many peoples), have an uncluttered ability
> to exploit - as they have throughout the last couple or
> three thousand or more years, when necessity or mood has
> taken them...
>
> It's a moot point whether or not our young well educated
> have yet recovered the motivation, work ethic and social
> disposition to emulate the more successful traits any of
> the hungry tiger econonmies of the Pacific Rim  So, for
> the moment ..and perhaps for the forseeable future unless
> we take great care, it might be more true to say...
>
> ...they do the business  ...we serve the pizzas! (if lucky)!
>
> :))
>
> Bill ZFC
>
> -- 
> Adoption  InterLink  UK with  -=-         http://www.billsimpson.com/
> Domain Host Orpheus Internet  -=-  http://www.orpheusinternet.co.uk/

Well said Bill
date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 18:53:58 GMT   author:   MikeS mikesansom@hotmail .com

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