Would anyone please know how to find a good television repair training 
course in London, please?   I rang floodlight and they mentioned three 
colleges, but it turns out none do television repair.    thanks for advice.

monrae fordi wrote:
> Would anyone please know how to find a good television repair training
> course in London, please?   I rang floodlight and they mentioned three
> colleges, but it turns out none do television repair.    thanks for
> advice.

I'd be very surprised if you can find this kind of training anywhere these
days, repairing TVs has become uneconomical in most cases.

monrae fordi wrote:
> Would anyone please know how to find a good television repair training
> course in London, please?   I rang floodlight and they mentioned three
> colleges, but it turns out none do television repair.    thanks for
> advice.

I'd be very surprised if you can find this kind of training anywhere these
days, repairing TVs has become uneconomical in most cases.

monrae fordi wrote:
> Would anyone please know how to find a good television repair training 
> course in London, please?   I rang floodlight and they mentioned three 
> colleges, but it turns out none do television repair.    thanks for advice. 
> 

Before the demise of 'Television magazine', a number of articles 
advertised LCD/plasma servicing courses run at the College of North West 
London. There is also City & Guilds qualifications in servicing run at 
the college campus in Willesden.

<http://www.cnwl.ac.uk/courses/factsheet.asp?ccode=TGCU&year=06/07>

Give them a ring - the web site does mention that all CNWL courses are 
not advertised online.

--
Adrian C

In message , Adrian C 
<email@here.invalid> writes
>
>Before the demise of 'Television magazine',
When did that happen? I haven't read a copy of Television since, must be 
1993... Shame it's gone but I guess the market was ever shrinking.

> a number of articles advertised LCD/plasma servicing courses run at 
>the College of North West London. There is also City & Guilds 
>qualifications in servicing run at the college campus in Willesden.
>
><http://www.cnwl.ac.uk/courses/factsheet.asp?ccode=TGCU&year=06/07>
>
>Give them a ring - the web site does mention that all CNWL courses are 
>not advertised online.
>
>--
>Adrian C
>

-- 
Clint Sharp

monrae fordi wrote:
> Would anyone please know how to find a good television repair training
> course in London, please?   I rang floodlight and they mentioned three
> colleges, but it turns out none do television repair.    thanks for
> advice.

I'd be very surprised if you can find this kind of training anywhere these
days, repairing TVs has become uneconomical in most cases.

monrae fordi wrote:
> Would anyone please know how to find a good television repair training 
> course in London, please?   I rang floodlight and they mentioned three 
> colleges, but it turns out none do television repair.    thanks for advice. 
> 

Before the demise of 'Television magazine', a number of articles 
advertised LCD/plasma servicing courses run at the College of North West 
London. There is also City & Guilds qualifications in servicing run at 
the college campus in Willesden.

<http://www.cnwl.ac.uk/courses/factsheet.asp?ccode=TGCU&year=06/07>

Give them a ring - the web site does mention that all CNWL courses are 
not advertised online.

--
Adrian C

In message , Adrian C 
<email@here.invalid> writes
>
>Before the demise of 'Television magazine',
When did that happen? I haven't read a copy of Television since, must be 
1993... Shame it's gone but I guess the market was ever shrinking.

> a number of articles advertised LCD/plasma servicing courses run at 
>the College of North West London. There is also City & Guilds 
>qualifications in servicing run at the college campus in Willesden.
>
><http://www.cnwl.ac.uk/courses/factsheet.asp?ccode=TGCU&year=06/07>
>
>Give them a ring - the web site does mention that all CNWL courses are 
>not advertised online.
>
>--
>Adrian C
>

-- 
Clint Sharp

>
> >Before the demise of 'Television magazine',
>
> When did that happen? I haven't read a copy of Television since, must be
> 1993... Shame it's gone but I guess the market was ever shrinking.


Jan or Feb this year.
A great shame as I had every copy for over 30 years.
It had been going downhill though but was many peoples' only real
source of good info.

Regarding training, I would find it hard to see how anyone could make
repairing pay now.
I used to spend most of my time reparing but seldom see a repair now
and spend most of the time installing.

monrae fordi wrote:
> Would anyone please know how to find a good television repair training
> course in London, please?   I rang floodlight and they mentioned three
> colleges, but it turns out none do television repair.    thanks for
> advice.

I'd be very surprised if you can find this kind of training anywhere these
days, repairing TVs has become uneconomical in most cases.

monrae fordi wrote:
> Would anyone please know how to find a good television repair training 
> course in London, please?   I rang floodlight and they mentioned three 
> colleges, but it turns out none do television repair.    thanks for advice. 
> 

Before the demise of 'Television magazine', a number of articles 
advertised LCD/plasma servicing courses run at the College of North West 
London. There is also City & Guilds qualifications in servicing run at 
the college campus in Willesden.

<http://www.cnwl.ac.uk/courses/factsheet.asp?ccode=TGCU&year=06/07>

Give them a ring - the web site does mention that all CNWL courses are 
not advertised online.

--
Adrian C

In message , Adrian C 
<email@here.invalid> writes
>
>Before the demise of 'Television magazine',
When did that happen? I haven't read a copy of Television since, must be 
1993... Shame it's gone but I guess the market was ever shrinking.

> a number of articles advertised LCD/plasma servicing courses run at 
>the College of North West London. There is also City & Guilds 
>qualifications in servicing run at the college campus in Willesden.
>
><http://www.cnwl.ac.uk/courses/factsheet.asp?ccode=TGCU&year=06/07>
>
>Give them a ring - the web site does mention that all CNWL courses are 
>not advertised online.
>
>--
>Adrian C
>

-- 
Clint Sharp

>
> >Before the demise of 'Television magazine',
>
> When did that happen? I haven't read a copy of Television since, must be
> 1993... Shame it's gone but I guess the market was ever shrinking.


Jan or Feb this year.
A great shame as I had every copy for over 30 years.
It had been going downhill though but was many peoples' only real
source of good info.

Regarding training, I would find it hard to see how anyone could make
repairing pay now.
I used to spend most of my time reparing but seldom see a repair now
and spend most of the time installing.

wrote in message 
news:1180747357.422532.40400@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>>
>> >Before the demise of 'Television magazine',
>>
>> When did that happen? I haven't read a copy of Television since, must be
>> 1993... Shame it's gone but I guess the market was ever shrinking.
>
>
> Jan or Feb this year.
> A great shame as I had every copy for over 30 years.
> It had been going downhill though but was many peoples' only real
> source of good info.
>
> Regarding training, I would find it hard to see how anyone could make
> repairing pay now.
> I used to spend most of my time reparing but seldom see a repair now
> and spend most of the time installing.

I knew they'd changed the name to something like TV and electronic repair a 
couple of years back (Round about the time I stopped subscribing) but they 
have actualy gone now have they?
Ah the throw-away society,  the old TV trade has gone the same way as 
milkmen. There's no longer a need for government skill centres turning out a 
dozen engineers every 6 months in every city.
I was, myself, thinking about maybe learning my way round LCD/Plasma sets, 
more out of curiosity than any hope of making money repairing them.

This Chinese 19" LCD monitor cost just over £100, which in real terms 
equates to about £30/40 when the PYE 222 hit the market as the first 
sub-£200 22" colour TV.
Anyone hoping the present boom and the price of large screen LCD TVs is 
going to hold for much longer is in for a shock, they cost bu**er-all  to 
produce and are going to be as cheap as chips, throw away items within 
months rather than years. (imo :-)

Djimbo 



-- 
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monrae fordi wrote:
> Would anyone please know how to find a good television repair training
> course in London, please?   I rang floodlight and they mentioned three
> colleges, but it turns out none do television repair.    thanks for
> advice.

I'd be very surprised if you can find this kind of training anywhere these
days, repairing TVs has become uneconomical in most cases.

monrae fordi wrote:
> Would anyone please know how to find a good television repair training 
> course in London, please?   I rang floodlight and they mentioned three 
> colleges, but it turns out none do television repair.    thanks for advice. 
> 

Before the demise of 'Television magazine', a number of articles 
advertised LCD/plasma servicing courses run at the College of North West 
London. There is also City & Guilds qualifications in servicing run at 
the college campus in Willesden.

<http://www.cnwl.ac.uk/courses/factsheet.asp?ccode=TGCU&year=06/07>

Give them a ring - the web site does mention that all CNWL courses are 
not advertised online.

--
Adrian C

In message , Adrian C 
<email@here.invalid> writes
>
>Before the demise of 'Television magazine',
When did that happen? I haven't read a copy of Television since, must be 
1993... Shame it's gone but I guess the market was ever shrinking.

> a number of articles advertised LCD/plasma servicing courses run at 
>the College of North West London. There is also City & Guilds 
>qualifications in servicing run at the college campus in Willesden.
>
><http://www.cnwl.ac.uk/courses/factsheet.asp?ccode=TGCU&year=06/07>
>
>Give them a ring - the web site does mention that all CNWL courses are 
>not advertised online.
>
>--
>Adrian C
>

-- 
Clint Sharp

>
> >Before the demise of 'Television magazine',
>
> When did that happen? I haven't read a copy of Television since, must be
> 1993... Shame it's gone but I guess the market was ever shrinking.


Jan or Feb this year.
A great shame as I had every copy for over 30 years.
It had been going downhill though but was many peoples' only real
source of good info.

Regarding training, I would find it hard to see how anyone could make
repairing pay now.
I used to spend most of my time reparing but seldom see a repair now
and spend most of the time installing.

wrote in message 
news:1180747357.422532.40400@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>>
>> >Before the demise of 'Television magazine',
>>
>> When did that happen? I haven't read a copy of Television since, must be
>> 1993... Shame it's gone but I guess the market was ever shrinking.
>
>
> Jan or Feb this year.
> A great shame as I had every copy for over 30 years.
> It had been going downhill though but was many peoples' only real
> source of good info.
>
> Regarding training, I would find it hard to see how anyone could make
> repairing pay now.
> I used to spend most of my time reparing but seldom see a repair now
> and spend most of the time installing.

I knew they'd changed the name to something like TV and electronic repair a 
couple of years back (Round about the time I stopped subscribing) but they 
have actualy gone now have they?
Ah the throw-away society,  the old TV trade has gone the same way as 
milkmen. There's no longer a need for government skill centres turning out a 
dozen engineers every 6 months in every city.
I was, myself, thinking about maybe learning my way round LCD/Plasma sets, 
more out of curiosity than any hope of making money repairing them.

This Chinese 19" LCD monitor cost just over £100, which in real terms 
equates to about £30/40 when the PYE 222 hit the market as the first 
sub-£200 22" colour TV.
Anyone hoping the present boom and the price of large screen LCD TVs is 
going to hold for much longer is in for a shock, they cost bu**er-all  to 
produce and are going to be as cheap as chips, throw away items within 
months rather than years. (imo :-)

Djimbo 



-- 
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monrae fordi wrote:
> Would anyone please know how to find a good television repair training
> course in London, please?   I rang floodlight and they mentioned three
> colleges, but it turns out none do television repair.    thanks for
> advice.

I'd be very surprised if you can find this kind of training anywhere these
days, repairing TVs has become uneconomical in most cases.

monrae fordi wrote:
> Would anyone please know how to find a good television repair training 
> course in London, please?   I rang floodlight and they mentioned three 
> colleges, but it turns out none do television repair.    thanks for advice. 
> 

Before the demise of 'Television magazine', a number of articles 
advertised LCD/plasma servicing courses run at the College of North West 
London. There is also City & Guilds qualifications in servicing run at 
the college campus in Willesden.

<http://www.cnwl.ac.uk/courses/factsheet.asp?ccode=TGCU&year=06/07>

Give them a ring - the web site does mention that all CNWL courses are 
not advertised online.

--
Adrian C

In message , Adrian C 
<email@here.invalid> writes
>
>Before the demise of 'Television magazine',
When did that happen? I haven't read a copy of Television since, must be 
1993... Shame it's gone but I guess the market was ever shrinking.

> a number of articles advertised LCD/plasma servicing courses run at 
>the College of North West London. There is also City & Guilds 
>qualifications in servicing run at the college campus in Willesden.
>
><http://www.cnwl.ac.uk/courses/factsheet.asp?ccode=TGCU&year=06/07>
>
>Give them a ring - the web site does mention that all CNWL courses are 
>not advertised online.
>
>--
>Adrian C
>

-- 
Clint Sharp

>
> >Before the demise of 'Television magazine',
>
> When did that happen? I haven't read a copy of Television since, must be
> 1993... Shame it's gone but I guess the market was ever shrinking.


Jan or Feb this year.
A great shame as I had every copy for over 30 years.
It had been going downhill though but was many peoples' only real
source of good info.

Regarding training, I would find it hard to see how anyone could make
repairing pay now.
I used to spend most of my time reparing but seldom see a repair now
and spend most of the time installing.

wrote in message 
news:1180747357.422532.40400@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>>
>> >Before the demise of 'Television magazine',
>>
>> When did that happen? I haven't read a copy of Television since, must be
>> 1993... Shame it's gone but I guess the market was ever shrinking.
>
>
> Jan or Feb this year.
> A great shame as I had every copy for over 30 years.
> It had been going downhill though but was many peoples' only real
> source of good info.
>
> Regarding training, I would find it hard to see how anyone could make
> repairing pay now.
> I used to spend most of my time reparing but seldom see a repair now
> and spend most of the time installing.

I knew they'd changed the name to something like TV and electronic repair a 
couple of years back (Round about the time I stopped subscribing) but they 
have actualy gone now have they?
Ah the throw-away society,  the old TV trade has gone the same way as 
milkmen. There's no longer a need for government skill centres turning out a 
dozen engineers every 6 months in every city.
I was, myself, thinking about maybe learning my way round LCD/Plasma sets, 
more out of curiosity than any hope of making money repairing them.

This Chinese 19" LCD monitor cost just over £100, which in real terms 
equates to about £30/40 when the PYE 222 hit the market as the first 
sub-£200 22" colour TV.
Anyone hoping the present boom and the price of large screen LCD TVs is 
going to hold for much longer is in for a shock, they cost bu**er-all  to 
produce and are going to be as cheap as chips, throw away items within 
months rather than years. (imo :-)

Djimbo 



-- 
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In message <4661345a$0$12513$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>, djimbo 
 writes
>
> wrote in message
>news:1180747357.422532.40400@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>> Jan or Feb this year.
>> A great shame as I had every copy for over 30 years.
>> It had been going downhill though but was many peoples' only real
>> source of good info.
I used to really enjoy Les Lawry Johns and the test cases..
>>
>> Regarding training, I would find it hard to see how anyone could make
>> repairing pay now.
It simply doesn't. You're far better off servicing washing machines and 
vacuum cleaners now although my local parts dealer has gone bump as 
well..
>> I used to spend most of my time reparing but seldom see a repair now
>> and spend most of the time installing.
>
>I knew they'd changed the name to something like TV and electronic repair a
>couple of years back (Round about the time I stopped subscribing) but they
>have actualy gone now have they?
>Ah the throw-away society,  the old TV trade has gone the same way as
>milkmen.
Umm, we still have milkmen here and Dairy Crest/Arla/Express Dairies or 
whatever they're called these days would tell you that they still have 
one or two..
>Anyone hoping the present boom and the price of large screen LCD TVs is
>going to hold for much longer is in for a shock, they cost bu**er-all  to
>produce and are going to be as cheap as chips, throw away items within
>months rather than years. (imo :-)
Hope you're right, I've been holding out for that to happen for two 
years now.
>
>Djimbo
>
>
>

-- 
Clint Sharp

Yes, I grew up on the Pye 222's and similar. Philips G8 and 11, GEC
2020.  It's easy to be nostalgic but it just is not as much fun now.
There is very little of real interest. The most frustrating thing is
still that so many people think that if something is new it is
automatically better and are totally blind (or deaf) to the hard
evidence.

Les Lawry-johns, yes, a great writer for years in Television mag. and
Don Bullock doing a similar column in later years. Don was dumped with
almost no notice, it seems, just before the final demise of the mag.
>From that point on, there was nothing left of interest to me in the
mag anyway.

Ah well, happy days!  I'm just off to hang another flat Tv on the wall
(there's more profit in the bracket anyway!)
 It just reinforces the fact that most people just use it as moving
wallpaper anyway!
Any jobs available in wallpaper repair?

monrae fordi wrote:
> Would anyone please know how to find a good television repair training
> course in London, please?   I rang floodlight and they mentioned three
> colleges, but it turns out none do television repair.    thanks for
> advice.

I'd be very surprised if you can find this kind of training anywhere these
days, repairing TVs has become uneconomical in most cases.

monrae fordi wrote:
> Would anyone please know how to find a good television repair training 
> course in London, please?   I rang floodlight and they mentioned three 
> colleges, but it turns out none do television repair.    thanks for advice. 
> 

Before the demise of 'Television magazine', a number of articles 
advertised LCD/plasma servicing courses run at the College of North West 
London. There is also City & Guilds qualifications in servicing run at 
the college campus in Willesden.

<http://www.cnwl.ac.uk/courses/factsheet.asp?ccode=TGCU&year=06/07>

Give them a ring - the web site does mention that all CNWL courses are 
not advertised online.

--
Adrian C

In message , Adrian C 
<email@here.invalid> writes
>
>Before the demise of 'Television magazine',
When did that happen? I haven't read a copy of Television since, must be 
1993... Shame it's gone but I guess the market was ever shrinking.

> a number of articles advertised LCD/plasma servicing courses run at 
>the College of North West London. There is also City & Guilds 
>qualifications in servicing run at the college campus in Willesden.
>
><http://www.cnwl.ac.uk/courses/factsheet.asp?ccode=TGCU&year=06/07>
>
>Give them a ring - the web site does mention that all CNWL courses are 
>not advertised online.
>
>--
>Adrian C
>

-- 
Clint Sharp

>
> >Before the demise of 'Television magazine',
>
> When did that happen? I haven't read a copy of Television since, must be
> 1993... Shame it's gone but I guess the market was ever shrinking.


Jan or Feb this year.
A great shame as I had every copy for over 30 years.
It had been going downhill though but was many peoples' only real
source of good info.

Regarding training, I would find it hard to see how anyone could make
repairing pay now.
I used to spend most of my time reparing but seldom see a repair now
and spend most of the time installing.

wrote in message 
news:1180747357.422532.40400@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>>
>> >Before the demise of 'Television magazine',
>>
>> When did that happen? I haven't read a copy of Television since, must be
>> 1993... Shame it's gone but I guess the market was ever shrinking.
>
>
> Jan or Feb this year.
> A great shame as I had every copy for over 30 years.
> It had been going downhill though but was many peoples' only real
> source of good info.
>
> Regarding training, I would find it hard to see how anyone could make
> repairing pay now.
> I used to spend most of my time reparing but seldom see a repair now
> and spend most of the time installing.

I knew they'd changed the name to something like TV and electronic repair a 
couple of years back (Round about the time I stopped subscribing) but they 
have actualy gone now have they?
Ah the throw-away society,  the old TV trade has gone the same way as 
milkmen. There's no longer a need for government skill centres turning out a 
dozen engineers every 6 months in every city.
I was, myself, thinking about maybe learning my way round LCD/Plasma sets, 
more out of curiosity than any hope of making money repairing them.

This Chinese 19" LCD monitor cost just over £100, which in real terms 
equates to about £30/40 when the PYE 222 hit the market as the first 
sub-£200 22" colour TV.
Anyone hoping the present boom and the price of large screen LCD TVs is 
going to hold for much longer is in for a shock, they cost bu**er-all  to 
produce and are going to be as cheap as chips, throw away items within 
months rather than years. (imo :-)

Djimbo 



-- 
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In message <4661345a$0$12513$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>, djimbo 
 writes
>
> wrote in message
>news:1180747357.422532.40400@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>> Jan or Feb this year.
>> A great shame as I had every copy for over 30 years.
>> It had been going downhill though but was many peoples' only real
>> source of good info.
I used to really enjoy Les Lawry Johns and the test cases..
>>
>> Regarding training, I would find it hard to see how anyone could make
>> repairing pay now.
It simply doesn't. You're far better off servicing washing machines and 
vacuum cleaners now although my local parts dealer has gone bump as 
well..
>> I used to spend most of my time reparing but seldom see a repair now
>> and spend most of the time installing.
>
>I knew they'd changed the name to something like TV and electronic repair a
>couple of years back (Round about the time I stopped subscribing) but they
>have actualy gone now have they?
>Ah the throw-away society,  the old TV trade has gone the same way as
>milkmen.
Umm, we still have milkmen here and Dairy Crest/Arla/Express Dairies or 
whatever they're called these days would tell you that they still have 
one or two..
>Anyone hoping the present boom and the price of large screen LCD TVs is
>going to hold for much longer is in for a shock, they cost bu**er-all  to
>produce and are going to be as cheap as chips, throw away items within
>months rather than years. (imo :-)
Hope you're right, I've been holding out for that to happen for two 
years now.
>
>Djimbo
>
>
>

-- 
Clint Sharp

Yes, I grew up on the Pye 222's and similar. Philips G8 and 11, GEC
2020.  It's easy to be nostalgic but it just is not as much fun now.
There is very little of real interest. The most frustrating thing is
still that so many people think that if something is new it is
automatically better and are totally blind (or deaf) to the hard
evidence.

Les Lawry-johns, yes, a great writer for years in Television mag. and
Don Bullock doing a similar column in later years. Don was dumped with
almost no notice, it seems, just before the final demise of the mag.
>From that point on, there was nothing left of interest to me in the
mag anyway.

Ah well, happy days!  I'm just off to hang another flat Tv on the wall
(there's more profit in the bracket anyway!)
 It just reinforces the fact that most people just use it as moving
wallpaper anyway!
Any jobs available in wallpaper repair?

"Clint Sharp"  mid posted in message
news:Vd$djIBJqZYGFwwT@clintsmc.demon.co.uk...

> I used to really enjoy Les Lawry Johns and the test cases..
Beware the blue tants!

> Umm, we still have milkmen here and Dairy Crest/Arla/Express Dairies or 
> whatever they're called these days would tell you that they still have one 
> or two..
Yep one or two same as TV engineers.

>>Anyone hoping the present boom and the price of large screen LCD TVs is
>>going to hold for much longer is in for a shock, they cost bu**er-all  to
>>produce and are going to be as cheap as chips, throw away items within
>>months rather than years. (imo :-)
> Hope you're right, I've been holding out for that to happen for two years 
> now.
My old Philips 28" feels the same, it needs an odd tube neck bash now and
then BUT
Over the last two years a 42" lcd has gone from £thousands to £hundreds, if
you and my Philips can just hold on a bit longer.
It's the same story as the colour then VCR boom.
A piano-key Hitachi 5000 cost £600 (£2grand+ in
present terms) now a far more sophisticated model = £35 or round about a
tenner in terms of value at the time of the VCR boom.
Or the first crappy valve colour sets (G6 dual std / Baird 700/ Decca CTV25)
costing the same as a van, once the market starts to even near saturation
the overproduction for the boom means - cheap as chips.
Last time(s) it was the Japanes now it's the Chinese.
I wonder if the UK will ever produce TVs again? I'm not holding my breath
for that one.

Djimbo.




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wrote in message 
news:1180829250.678302.264690@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> Yes, I grew up on the Pye 222's and similar. Philips G8 and 11, GEC
> 2020.  It's easy to be nostalgic but it just is not as much fun now.
> There is very little of real interest. The most frustrating thing is
> still that so many people think that if something is new it is
> automatically better and are totally blind (or deaf) to the hard
> evidence.
>
> Les Lawry-johns, yes, a great writer for years in Television mag. and
> Don Bullock doing a similar column in later years. Don was dumped with
> almost no notice, it seems, just before the final demise of the mag.
>>From that point on, there was nothing left of interest to me in the
> mag anyway.
>
> Ah well, happy days!  I'm just off to hang another flat Tv on the wall
> (there's more profit in the bracket anyway!)
> It just reinforces the fact that most people just use it as moving
> wallpaper anyway!
> Any jobs available in wallpaper repair?

There's a thing that's been bothering me with all this wall hanging 
plasma/LCDs.
They always taught us that the ctr of the screen should be about eye-height 
when seated.
Doesn't watching all this wall hanging feel like sitting on the front row at 
the cinema?
and lead to all kinds of neck problems?
Perhaps that's the trade to be in, chyropracty.

Ah the G8 &11... Just ask me who got to do Visionhire's G9 course!
Ahhhh the nostalgia, it's making my teeth hurt.

Djimbo.



-- 
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monrae fordi wrote:
> Would anyone please know how to find a good television repair training
> course in London, please?   I rang floodlight and they mentioned three
> colleges, but it turns out none do television repair.    thanks for
> advice.

I'd be very surprised if you can find this kind of training anywhere these
days, repairing TVs has become uneconomical in most cases.

monrae fordi wrote:
> Would anyone please know how to find a good television repair training 
> course in London, please?   I rang floodlight and they mentioned three 
> colleges, but it turns out none do television repair.    thanks for advice. 
> 

Before the demise of 'Television magazine', a number of articles 
advertised LCD/plasma servicing courses run at the College of North West 
London. There is also City & Guilds qualifications in servicing run at 
the college campus in Willesden.

<http://www.cnwl.ac.uk/courses/factsheet.asp?ccode=TGCU&year=06/07>

Give them a ring - the web site does mention that all CNWL courses are 
not advertised online.

--
Adrian C

In message , Adrian C 
<email@here.invalid> writes
>
>Before the demise of 'Television magazine',
When did that happen? I haven't read a copy of Television since, must be 
1993... Shame it's gone but I guess the market was ever shrinking.

> a number of articles advertised LCD/plasma servicing courses run at 
>the College of North West London. There is also City & Guilds 
>qualifications in servicing run at the college campus in Willesden.
>
><http://www.cnwl.ac.uk/courses/factsheet.asp?ccode=TGCU&year=06/07>
>
>Give them a ring - the web site does mention that all CNWL courses are 
>not advertised online.
>
>--
>Adrian C
>

-- 
Clint Sharp

>
> >Before the demise of 'Television magazine',
>
> When did that happen? I haven't read a copy of Television since, must be
> 1993... Shame it's gone but I guess the market was ever shrinking.


Jan or Feb this year.
A great shame as I had every copy for over 30 years.
It had been going downhill though but was many peoples' only real
source of good info.

Regarding training, I would find it hard to see how anyone could make
repairing pay now.
I used to spend most of my time reparing but seldom see a repair now
and spend most of the time installing.

wrote in message 
news:1180747357.422532.40400@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>>
>> >Before the demise of 'Television magazine',
>>
>> When did that happen? I haven't read a copy of Television since, must be
>> 1993... Shame it's gone but I guess the market was ever shrinking.
>
>
> Jan or Feb this year.
> A great shame as I had every copy for over 30 years.
> It had been going downhill though but was many peoples' only real
> source of good info.
>
> Regarding training, I would find it hard to see how anyone could make
> repairing pay now.
> I used to spend most of my time reparing but seldom see a repair now
> and spend most of the time installing.

I knew they'd changed the name to something like TV and electronic repair a 
couple of years back (Round about the time I stopped subscribing) but they 
have actualy gone now have they?
Ah the throw-away society,  the old TV trade has gone the same way as 
milkmen. There's no longer a need for government skill centres turning out a 
dozen engineers every 6 months in every city.
I was, myself, thinking about maybe learning my way round LCD/Plasma sets, 
more out of curiosity than any hope of making money repairing them.

This Chinese 19" LCD monitor cost just over £100, which in real terms 
equates to about £30/40 when the PYE 222 hit the market as the first 
sub-£200 22" colour TV.
Anyone hoping the present boom and the price of large screen LCD TVs is 
going to hold for much longer is in for a shock, they cost bu**er-all  to 
produce and are going to be as cheap as chips, throw away items within 
months rather than years. (imo :-)

Djimbo 



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In message <4661345a$0$12513$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>, djimbo 
 writes
>
> wrote in message
>news:1180747357.422532.40400@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>> Jan or Feb this year.
>> A great shame as I had every copy for over 30 years.
>> It had been going downhill though but was many peoples' only real
>> source of good info.
I used to really enjoy Les Lawry Johns and the test cases..
>>
>> Regarding training, I would find it hard to see how anyone could make
>> repairing pay now.
It simply doesn't. You're far better off servicing washing machines and 
vacuum cleaners now although my local parts dealer has gone bump as 
well..
>> I used to spend most of my time reparing but seldom see a repair now
>> and spend most of the time installing.
>
>I knew they'd changed the name to something like TV and electronic repair a
>couple of years back (Round about the time I stopped subscribing) but they
>have actualy gone now have they?
>Ah the throw-away society,  the old TV trade has gone the same way as
>milkmen.
Umm, we still have milkmen here and Dairy Crest/Arla/Express Dairies or 
whatever they're called these days would tell you that they still have 
one or two..
>Anyone hoping the present boom and the price of large screen LCD TVs is
>going to hold for much longer is in for a shock, they cost bu**er-all  to
>produce and are going to be as cheap as chips, throw away items within
>months rather than years. (imo :-)
Hope you're right, I've been holding out for that to happen for two 
years now.
>
>Djimbo
>
>
>

-- 
Clint Sharp

Yes, I grew up on the Pye 222's and similar. Philips G8 and 11, GEC
2020.  It's easy to be nostalgic but it just is not as much fun now.
There is very little of real interest. The most frustrating thing is
still that so many people think that if something is new it is
automatically better and are totally blind (or deaf) to the hard
evidence.

Les Lawry-johns, yes, a great writer for years in Television mag. and
Don Bullock doing a similar column in later years. Don was dumped with
almost no notice, it seems, just before the final demise of the mag.
>From that point on, there was nothing left of interest to me in the
mag anyway.

Ah well, happy days!  I'm just off to hang another flat Tv on the wall
(there's more profit in the bracket anyway!)
 It just reinforces the fact that most people just use it as moving
wallpaper anyway!
Any jobs available in wallpaper repair?

"Clint Sharp"  mid posted in message
news:Vd$djIBJqZYGFwwT@clintsmc.demon.co.uk...

> I used to really enjoy Les Lawry Johns and the test cases..
Beware the blue tants!

> Umm, we still have milkmen here and Dairy Crest/Arla/Express Dairies or 
> whatever they're called these days would tell you that they still have one 
> or two..
Yep one or two same as TV engineers.

>>Anyone hoping the present boom and the price of large screen LCD TVs is
>>going to hold for much longer is in for a shock, they cost bu**er-all  to
>>produce and are going to be as cheap as chips, throw away items within
>>months rather than years. (imo :-)
> Hope you're right, I've been holding out for that to happen for two years 
> now.
My old Philips 28" feels the same, it needs an odd tube neck bash now and
then BUT
Over the last two years a 42" lcd has gone from £thousands to £hundreds, if
you and my Philips can just hold on a bit longer.
It's the same story as the colour then VCR boom.
A piano-key Hitachi 5000 cost £600 (£2grand+ in
present terms) now a far more sophisticated model = £35 or round about a
tenner in terms of value at the time of the VCR boom.
Or the first crappy valve colour sets (G6 dual std / Baird 700/ Decca CTV25)
costing the same as a van, once the market starts to even near saturation
the overproduction for the boom means - cheap as chips.
Last time(s) it was the Japanes now it's the Chinese.
I wonder if the UK will ever produce TVs again? I'm not holding my breath
for that one.

Djimbo.




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wrote in message 
news:1180829250.678302.264690@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> Yes, I grew up on the Pye 222's and similar. Philips G8 and 11, GEC
> 2020.  It's easy to be nostalgic but it just is not as much fun now.
> There is very little of real interest. The most frustrating thing is
> still that so many people think that if something is new it is
> automatically better and are totally blind (or deaf) to the hard
> evidence.
>
> Les Lawry-johns, yes, a great writer for years in Television mag. and
> Don Bullock doing a similar column in later years. Don was dumped with
> almost no notice, it seems, just before the final demise of the mag.
>>From that point on, there was nothing left of interest to me in the
> mag anyway.
>
> Ah well, happy days!  I'm just off to hang another flat Tv on the wall
> (there's more profit in the bracket anyway!)
> It just reinforces the fact that most people just use it as moving
> wallpaper anyway!
> Any jobs available in wallpaper repair?

There's a thing that's been bothering me with all this wall hanging 
plasma/LCDs.
They always taught us that the ctr of the screen should be about eye-height 
when seated.
Doesn't watching all this wall hanging feel like sitting on the front row at 
the cinema?
and lead to all kinds of neck problems?
Perhaps that's the trade to be in, chyropracty.

Ah the G8 &11... Just ask me who got to do Visionhire's G9 course!
Ahhhh the nostalgia, it's making my teeth hurt.

Djimbo.



-- 
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>
> There's a thing that's been bothering me with all this wall hanging
> plasma/LCDs.
> They always taught us that the ctr of the screen should be about eye-height
> when seated.
> Doesn't watching all this wall hanging feel like sitting on the front row at
> the cinema?


The thing is that I always try to persuade customers not to put them
too high on the wall. The difficulty is that many people dont seem to
be able to imagine  watching the tv until it is on the wall and then
its too late. They want to think of it as hanging a picture. I think
over a fireplace is normally much too high and, in any case, LCD's go
dark if you look at the picture from below centre. Many people find
this out too late when they hang kitchen and bedroom LCD's too high on
the wall. They then have to make the set look untidy and no better
than a CRT one by angling it downwards.

Maybe hanging it on the ceiling and lying on the floor to watch it
would be the ultimate space-saver.

On a different subject (but ceiling mounting made me think of it for
some reason) Can anyone think if a good reason why some of the smaller
Sharp LCD sets have the facility on the menus, to reverse the picture
left and right? (and upside down for that matter).

prattle@btinternet.com wrote:
> 
> On a different subject (but ceiling mounting made me think of it for
> some reason) Can anyone think if a good reason why some of the smaller
> Sharp LCD sets have the facility on the menus, to reverse the picture
> left and right? (and upside down for that matter).

So you can watch the TV by reflection in a mirror?

Or (a guess but probably more likely) you can use the unit inside a 
stand-alone coin-slot video gaming console where images are routinely 
flipped due to use of mirrors in the the cabinet to allow mounting the 
CRT somewhere sensible, and the LCD is a substituted replacement.

--
Adrian C

prattle@btinternet.com wrote:
>>There's a thing that's been bothering me with all this wall hanging
>>plasma/LCDs.
>>They always taught us that the ctr of the screen should be about eye-height
>>when seated.
>>Doesn't watching all this wall hanging feel like sitting on the front row at
>>the cinema?
> 
> 
> 
> The thing is that I always try to persuade customers not to put them
> too high on the wall. The difficulty is that many people dont seem to
> be able to imagine  watching the tv until it is on the wall and then
> its too late. They want to think of it as hanging a picture. I think
> over a fireplace is normally much too high and, in any case, LCD's go
> dark if you look at the picture from below centre. Many people find
> this out too late when they hang kitchen and bedroom LCD's too high on
> the wall. They then have to make the set look untidy and no better
> than a CRT one by angling it downwards.
> 
> Maybe hanging it on the ceiling and lying on the floor to watch it
> would be the ultimate space-saver.
> 
> On a different subject (but ceiling mounting made me think of it for
> some reason) Can anyone think if a good reason why some of the smaller
> Sharp LCD sets have the facility on the menus, to reverse the picture
> left and right? (and upside down for that matter).

So it can be placed inside a piece of furniture and viewed via a mirror?

Some early (pre-war) 405 line sets had a horizontal screen which was 
watched by means of a mirror built into the underside of the lid 
(which was opened at an angle). Obviously, the CTR picture would have 
to be upside down and back to front when seen from the front of the 
cabinet peering in.

In message <46627441$0$16382$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>, djimbo 
 writes
>Ah the G8 &11...
Ooh, bugger, I'd managed to get the G8 and G11 with its dodgy soldering 
out of my immediate memory until you mentioned that, that bloody line 
panel and those dodgy rivets on the smoothing block, you sod.
>Just ask me who got to do Visionhire's G9 course!
That one bypassed me fortunately, remember the Thorn 9000 with that 
Syclops PSU?
>Ahhhh the nostalgia, it's making my teeth hurt.
And the net nannies will be along to shout off topic any minute now
>
>Djimbo.
>
>
>

-- 
Clint Sharp

In message , 
prattle@btinternet.com writes
>On a different subject (but ceiling mounting made me think of it for
>some reason) Can anyone think if a good reason why some of the smaller
>Sharp LCD sets have the facility on the menus, to reverse the picture
>left and right? (and upside down for that matter).
>
Ahh, that's so they only have to make one chassis for the world market 
so the coriolis effect doesn't kick in when they ship them south of the 
equator.
-- 
Clint Sharp

In message <466271a7$0$16380$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>, djimbo 
 writes
>
>"Clint Sharp"  mid posted in message
>news:Vd$djIBJqZYGFwwT@clintsmc.demon.co.uk...
>
>> I used to really enjoy Les Lawry Johns and the test cases..
>Beware the blue tants!
LOL, yes... ISTR he drowned a few in scotch over the years..
>
>> Umm, we still have milkmen here and Dairy Crest/Arla/Express Dairies or
>> whatever they're called these days would tell you that they still have one
>> or two..
>Yep one or two same as TV engineers.

>
>>>Anyone hoping the present boom and the price of large screen LCD TVs is
>>>going to hold for much longer is in for a shock, they cost bu**er-all  to
>>>produce and are going to be as cheap as chips, throw away items within
>>>months rather than years. (imo :-)
>> Hope you're right, I've been holding out for that to happen for two years
>> now.
>Over the last two years a 42" lcd has gone from £thousands to £hundreds, if
>you and my Philips can just hold on a bit longer.
It's not my choice, her indoors gets to decide when, I just get to pay 
for it (in so many more ways than just money)
>I wonder if the UK will ever produce TVs again? I'm not holding my breath
>for that one.
Give it another 50 years, when we're a third world nation we'll be 
knocking em out by the million.
>
>Djimbo.
>
>
>
>

-- 
Clint Sharp

monrae fordi wrote:
> Would anyone please know how to find a good television repair training
> course in London, please?   I rang floodlight and they mentioned three
> colleges, but it turns out none do television repair.    thanks for
> advice.

I'd be very surprised if you can find this kind of training anywhere these
days, repairing TVs has become uneconomical in most cases.

monrae fordi wrote:
> Would anyone please know how to find a good television repair training 
> course in London, please?   I rang floodlight and they mentioned three 
> colleges, but it turns out none do television repair.    thanks for advice. 
> 

Before the demise of 'Television magazine', a number of articles 
advertised LCD/plasma servicing courses run at the College of North West 
London. There is also City & Guilds qualifications in servicing run at 
the college campus in Willesden.

<http://www.cnwl.ac.uk/courses/factsheet.asp?ccode=TGCU&year=06/07>

Give them a ring - the web site does mention that all CNWL courses are 
not advertised online.

--
Adrian C

In message , Adrian C 
<email@here.invalid> writes
>
>Before the demise of 'Television magazine',
When did that happen? I haven't read a copy of Television since, must be 
1993... Shame it's gone but I guess the market was ever shrinking.

> a number of articles advertised LCD/plasma servicing courses run at 
>the College of North West London. There is also City & Guilds 
>qualifications in servicing run at the college campus in Willesden.
>
><http://www.cnwl.ac.uk/courses/factsheet.asp?ccode=TGCU&year=06/07>
>
>Give them a ring - the web site does mention that all CNWL courses are 
>not advertised online.
>
>--
>Adrian C
>

-- 
Clint Sharp

>
> >Before the demise of 'Television magazine',
>
> When did that happen? I haven't read a copy of Television since, must be
> 1993... Shame it's gone but I guess the market was ever shrinking.


Jan or Feb this year.
A great shame as I had every copy for over 30 years.
It had been going downhill though but was many peoples' only real
source of good info.

Regarding training, I would find it hard to see how anyone could make
repairing pay now.
I used to spend most of my time reparing but seldom see a repair now
and spend most of the time installing.

wrote in message 
news:1180747357.422532.40400@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>>
>> >Before the demise of 'Television magazine',
>>
>> When did that happen? I haven't read a copy of Television since, must be
>> 1993... Shame it's gone but I guess the market was ever shrinking.
>
>
> Jan or Feb this year.
> A great shame as I had every copy for over 30 years.
> It had been going downhill though but was many peoples' only real
> source of good info.
>
> Regarding training, I would find it hard to see how anyone could make
> repairing pay now.
> I used to spend most of my time reparing but seldom see a repair now
> and spend most of the time installing.

I knew they'd changed the name to something like TV and electronic repair a 
couple of years back (Round about the time I stopped subscribing) but they 
have actualy gone now have they?
Ah the throw-away society,  the old TV trade has gone the same way as 
milkmen. There's no longer a need for government skill centres turning out a 
dozen engineers every 6 months in every city.
I was, myself, thinking about maybe learning my way round LCD/Plasma sets, 
more out of curiosity than any hope of making money repairing them.

This Chinese 19" LCD monitor cost just over £100, which in real terms 
equates to about £30/40 when the PYE 222 hit the market as the first 
sub-£200 22" colour TV.
Anyone hoping the present boom and the price of large screen LCD TVs is 
going to hold for much longer is in for a shock, they cost bu**er-all  to 
produce and are going to be as cheap as chips, throw away items within 
months rather than years. (imo :-)

Djimbo 



-- 
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In message <4661345a$0$12513$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>, djimbo 
 writes
>
> wrote in message
>news:1180747357.422532.40400@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>> Jan or Feb this year.
>> A great shame as I had every copy for over 30 years.
>> It had been going downhill though but was many peoples' only real
>> source of good info.
I used to really enjoy Les Lawry Johns and the test cases..
>>
>> Regarding training, I would find it hard to see how anyone could make
>> repairing pay now.
It simply doesn't. You're far better off servicing washing machines and 
vacuum cleaners now although my local parts dealer has gone bump as 
well..
>> I used to spend most of my time reparing but seldom see a repair now
>> and spend most of the time installing.
>
>I knew they'd changed the name to something like TV and electronic repair a
>couple of years back (Round about the time I stopped subscribing) but they
>have actualy gone now have they?
>Ah the throw-away society,  the old TV trade has gone the same way as
>milkmen.
Umm, we still have milkmen here and Dairy Crest/Arla/Express Dairies or 
whatever they're called these days would tell you that they still have 
one or two..
>Anyone hoping the present boom and the price of large screen LCD TVs is
>going to hold for much longer is in for a shock, they cost bu**er-all  to
>produce and are going to be as cheap as chips, throw away items within
>months rather than years. (imo :-)
Hope you're right, I've been holding out for that to happen for two 
years now.
>
>Djimbo
>
>
>

-- 
Clint Sharp

Yes, I grew up on the Pye 222's and similar. Philips G8 and 11, GEC
2020.  It's easy to be nostalgic but it just is not as much fun now.
There is very little of real interest. The most frustrating thing is
still that so many people think that if something is new it is
automatically better and are totally blind (or deaf) to the hard
evidence.

Les Lawry-johns, yes, a great writer for years in Television mag. and
Don Bullock doing a similar column in later years. Don was dumped with
almost no notice, it seems, just before the final demise of the mag.
>From that point on, there was nothing left of interest to me in the
mag anyway.

Ah well, happy days!  I'm just off to hang another flat Tv on the wall
(there's more profit in the bracket anyway!)
 It just reinforces the fact that most people just use it as moving
wallpaper anyway!
Any jobs available in wallpaper repair?

"Clint Sharp"  mid posted in message
news:Vd$djIBJqZYGFwwT@clintsmc.demon.co.uk...

> I used to really enjoy Les Lawry Johns and the test cases..
Beware the blue tants!

> Umm, we still have milkmen here and Dairy Crest/Arla/Express Dairies or 
> whatever they're called these days would tell you that they still have one 
> or two..
Yep one or two same as TV engineers.

>>Anyone hoping the present boom and the price of large screen LCD TVs is
>>going to hold for much longer is in for a shock, they cost bu**er-all  to
>>produce and are going to be as cheap as chips, throw away items within
>>months rather than years. (imo :-)
> Hope you're right, I've been holding out for that to happen for two years 
> now.
My old Philips 28" feels the same, it needs an odd tube neck bash now and
then BUT
Over the last two years a 42" lcd has gone from £thousands to £hundreds, if
you and my Philips can just hold on a bit longer.
It's the same story as the colour then VCR boom.
A piano-key Hitachi 5000 cost £600 (£2grand+ in
present terms) now a far more sophisticated model = £35 or round about a
tenner in terms of value at the time of the VCR boom.
Or the first crappy valve colour sets (G6 dual std / Baird 700/ Decca CTV25)
costing the same as a van, once the market starts to even near saturation
the overproduction for the boom means - cheap as chips.
Last time(s) it was the Japanes now it's the Chinese.
I wonder if the UK will ever produce TVs again? I'm not holding my breath
for that one.

Djimbo.




-- 
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wrote in message 
news:1180829250.678302.264690@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> Yes, I grew up on the Pye 222's and similar. Philips G8 and 11, GEC
> 2020.  It's easy to be nostalgic but it just is not as much fun now.
> There is very little of real interest. The most frustrating thing is
> still that so many people think that if something is new it is
> automatically better and are totally blind (or deaf) to the hard
> evidence.
>
> Les Lawry-johns, yes, a great writer for years in Television mag. and
> Don Bullock doing a similar column in later years. Don was dumped with
> almost no notice, it seems, just before the final demise of the mag.
>>From that point on, there was nothing left of interest to me in the
> mag anyway.
>
> Ah well, happy days!  I'm just off to hang another flat Tv on the wall
> (there's more profit in the bracket anyway!)
> It just reinforces the fact that most people just use it as moving
> wallpaper anyway!
> Any jobs available in wallpaper repair?

There's a thing that's been bothering me with all this wall hanging 
plasma/LCDs.
They always taught us that the ctr of the screen should be about eye-height 
when seated.
Doesn't watching all this wall hanging feel like sitting on the front row at 
the cinema?
and lead to all kinds of neck problems?
Perhaps that's the trade to be in, chyropracty.

Ah the G8 &11... Just ask me who got to do Visionhire's G9 course!
Ahhhh the nostalgia, it's making my teeth hurt.

Djimbo.



-- 
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

>
> There's a thing that's been bothering me with all this wall hanging
> plasma/LCDs.
> They always taught us that the ctr of the screen should be about eye-height
> when seated.
> Doesn't watching all this wall hanging feel like sitting on the front row at
> the cinema?


The thing is that I always try to persuade customers not to put them
too high on the wall. The difficulty is that many people dont seem to
be able to imagine  watching the tv until it is on the wall and then
its too late. They want to think of it as hanging a picture. I think
over a fireplace is normally much too high and, in any case, LCD's go
dark if you look at the picture from below centre. Many people find
this out too late when they hang kitchen and bedroom LCD's too high on
the wall. They then have to make the set look untidy and no better
than a CRT one by angling it downwards.

Maybe hanging it on the ceiling and lying on the floor to watch it
would be the ultimate space-saver.

On a different subject (but ceiling mounting made me think of it for
some reason) Can anyone think if a good reason why some of the smaller
Sharp LCD sets have the facility on the menus, to reverse the picture
left and right? (and upside down for that matter).

prattle@btinternet.com wrote:
> 
> On a different subject (but ceiling mounting made me think of it for
> some reason) Can anyone think if a good reason why some of the smaller
> Sharp LCD sets have the facility on the menus, to reverse the picture
> left and right? (and upside down for that matter).

So you can watch the TV by reflection in a mirror?

Or (a guess but probably more likely) you can use the unit inside a 
stand-alone coin-slot video gaming console where images are routinely 
flipped due to use of mirrors in the the cabinet to allow mounting the 
CRT somewhere sensible, and the LCD is a substituted replacement.

--
Adrian C

prattle@btinternet.com wrote:
>>There's a thing that's been bothering me with all this wall hanging
>>plasma/LCDs.
>>They always taught us that the ctr of the screen should be about eye-height
>>when seated.
>>Doesn't watching all this wall hanging feel like sitting on the front row at
>>the cinema?
> 
> 
> 
> The thing is that I always try to persuade customers not to put them
> too high on the wall. The difficulty is that many people dont seem to
> be able to imagine  watching the tv until it is on the wall and then
> its too late. They want to think of it as hanging a picture. I think
> over a fireplace is normally much too high and, in any case, LCD's go
> dark if you look at the picture from below centre. Many people find
> this out too late when they hang kitchen and bedroom LCD's too high on
> the wall. They then have to make the set look untidy and no better
> than a CRT one by angling it downwards.
> 
> Maybe hanging it on the ceiling and lying on the floor to watch it
> would be the ultimate space-saver.
> 
> On a different subject (but ceiling mounting made me think of it for
> some reason) Can anyone think if a good reason why some of the smaller
> Sharp LCD sets have the facility on the menus, to reverse the picture
> left and right? (and upside down for that matter).

So it can be placed inside a piece of furniture and viewed via a mirror?

Some early (pre-war) 405 line sets had a horizontal screen which was 
watched by means of a mirror built into the underside of the lid 
(which was opened at an angle). Obviously, the CTR picture would have 
to be upside down and back to front when seen from the front of the 
cabinet peering in.

In message <46627441$0$16382$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>, djimbo 
 writes
>Ah the G8 &11...
Ooh, bugger, I'd managed to get the G8 and G11 with its dodgy soldering 
out of my immediate memory until you mentioned that, that bloody line 
panel and those dodgy rivets on the smoothing block, you sod.
>Just ask me who got to do Visionhire's G9 course!
That one bypassed me fortunately, remember the Thorn 9000 with that 
Syclops PSU?
>Ahhhh the nostalgia, it's making my teeth hurt.
And the net nannies will be along to shout off topic any minute now
>
>Djimbo.
>
>
>

-- 
Clint Sharp

In message , 
prattle@btinternet.com writes
>On a different subject (but ceiling mounting made me think of it for
>some reason) Can anyone think if a good reason why some of the smaller
>Sharp LCD sets have the facility on the menus, to reverse the picture
>left and right? (and upside down for that matter).
>
Ahh, that's so they only have to make one chassis for the world market 
so the coriolis effect doesn't kick in when they ship them south of the 
equator.
-- 
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In message <466271a7$0$16380$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>, djimbo 
 writes
>
>"Clint Sharp"  mid posted in message
>news:Vd$djIBJqZYGFwwT@clintsmc.demon.co.uk...
>
>> I used to really enjoy Les Lawry Johns and the test cases..
>Beware the blue tants!
LOL, yes... ISTR he drowned a few in scotch over the years..
>
>> Umm, we still have milkmen here and Dairy Crest/Arla/Express Dairies or
>> whatever they're called these days would tell you that they still have one
>> or two..
>Yep one or two same as TV engineers.

>
>>>Anyone hoping the present boom and the price of large screen LCD TVs is
>>>going to hold for much longer is in for a shock, they cost bu**er-all  to
>>>produce and are going to be as cheap as chips, throw away items within
>>>months rather than years. (imo :-)
>> Hope you're right, I've been holding out for that to happen for two years
>> now.
>Over the last two years a 42" lcd has gone from £thousands to £hundreds, if
>you and my Philips can just hold on a bit longer.
It's not my choice, her indoors gets to decide when, I just get to pay 
for it (in so many more ways than just money)
>I wonder if the UK will ever produce TVs again? I'm not holding my breath
>for that one.
Give it another 50 years, when we're a third world nation we'll be 
knocking em out by the million.
>
>Djimbo.
>
>
>
>

-- 
Clint Sharp

> Ahh, that's so they only have to make one chassis for the world market
> so the coriolis effect doesn't kick in when they ship them south of the
> equator.


That'll be it then!

Actually it reminds me of something which really did happen to me in
the late 70's.
I had been short of a black and white loan tv to leave with customers
when I took theirs for repair so I decided to build one from two
matching scrap ones. One had a good tube and one had a good chassis.
The result was a good set. (a Pye olympic, if anyone remembers
those !)
Anyway, a little time later, the Quaker Meeting House (which offered
caring emmergency accommodation to those in need) in the local town
asked for their tv to be repaired and could I lend them one as there
were often a number of people in the common room to keep amused. So
off I went with the Pye.
The very old lady in charge was very grateful and she couldnt thank me
enough when I returned their old set, repaired, a week or so later.
Her only comment, in all seriousness was that mine had caused much
confusion amongst the residents as it made all of the cricket players
left-handed!! I didn't take much notice and just took the set back
home. Some time later it happened to be switched on on the workbench
whilst I did other things and I suddenly realised that the picture I
was seeing in the repair mirror was the right way round! I had managed
to reverse the connections to the line scan coils when I had rebuilt
the set and it had been showing a reversed picture ever since!
The interesting thing was that none of the residents at the Quaker
meeting house had made any comment about writing being backwards as
well!!

> Ahh, that's so they only have to make one chassis for the world market
> so the coriolis effect doesn't kick in when they ship them south of the
> equator.


That'll be it then!

Actually it reminds me of something which really did happen to me in
the late 70's.
I had been short of a black and white loan tv to leave with customers
when I took theirs for repair so I decided to build one from two
matching scrap ones. One had a good tube and one had a good chassis.
The result was a good set. (a Pye olympic, if anyone remembers
those !)
Anyway, a little time later, the Quaker Meeting House (which offered
caring emmergency accommodation to those in need) in the local town
asked for their tv to be repaired and could I lend them one as there
were often a number of people in the common room to keep amused. So
off I went with the Pye.
The very old lady in charge was very grateful and she couldnt thank
me
enough when I returned their old set, repaired, a week or so later.
Her only comment, in all seriousness was that mine had caused much
confusion amongst the residents as it made all of the cricket players
left-handed!! I didn't take much notice and just took the set back
home. Some time later it happened to be switched on on the workbench
whilst I did other things and I suddenly realised that the picture I
was seeing in the repair mirror was the right way round! I had
managed
to reverse the connections to the line scan coils when I had rebuilt
the set and it had been showing a reversed picture ever since!
The interesting thing was that none of the residents at the Quaker
meeting house had made any comment about writing being backwards as
well!!

monrae fordi wrote:
> Would anyone please know how to find a good television repair training
> course in London, please?   I rang floodlight and they mentioned three
> colleges, but it turns out none do television repair.    thanks for
> advice.

I'd be very surprised if you can find this kind of training anywhere these
days, repairing TVs has become uneconomical in most cases.

monrae fordi wrote:
> Would anyone please know how to find a good television repair training 
> course in London, please?   I rang floodlight and they mentioned three 
> colleges, but it turns out none do television repair.    thanks for advice. 
> 

Before the demise of 'Television magazine', a number of articles 
advertised LCD/plasma servicing courses run at the College of North West 
London. There is also City & Guilds qualifications in servicing run at 
the college campus in Willesden.

<http://www.cnwl.ac.uk/courses/factsheet.asp?ccode=TGCU&year=06/07>

Give them a ring - the web site does mention that all CNWL courses are 
not advertised online.

--
Adrian C

In message , Adrian C 
<email@here.invalid> writes
>
>Before the demise of 'Television magazine',
When did that happen? I haven't read a copy of Television since, must be 
1993... Shame it's gone but I guess the market was ever shrinking.

> a number of articles advertised LCD/plasma servicing courses run at 
>the College of North West London. There is also City & Guilds 
>qualifications in servicing run at the college campus in Willesden.
>
><http://www.cnwl.ac.uk/courses/factsheet.asp?ccode=TGCU&year=06/07>
>
>Give them a ring - the web site does mention that all CNWL courses are 
>not advertised online.
>
>--
>Adrian C
>

-- 
Clint Sharp

>
> >Before the demise of 'Television magazine',
>
> When did that happen? I haven't read a copy of Television since, must be
> 1993... Shame it's gone but I guess the market was ever shrinking.


Jan or Feb this year.
A great shame as I had every copy for over 30 years.
It had been going downhill though but was many peoples' only real
source of good info.

Regarding training, I would find it hard to see how anyone could make
repairing pay now.
I used to spend most of my time reparing but seldom see a repair now
and spend most of the time installing.

wrote in message 
news:1180747357.422532.40400@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
>>
>> >Before the demise of 'Television magazine',
>>
>> When did that happen? I haven't read a copy of Television since, must be
>> 1993... Shame it's gone but I guess the market was ever shrinking.
>
>
> Jan or Feb this year.
> A great shame as I had every copy for over 30 years.
> It had been going downhill though but was many peoples' only real
> source of good info.
>
> Regarding training, I would find it hard to see how anyone could make
> repairing pay now.
> I used to spend most of my time reparing but seldom see a repair now
> and spend most of the time installing.

I knew they'd changed the name to something like TV and electronic repair a 
couple of years back (Round about the time I stopped subscribing) but they 
have actualy gone now have they?
Ah the throw-away society,  the old TV trade has gone the same way as 
milkmen. There's no longer a need for government skill centres turning out a 
dozen engineers every 6 months in every city.
I was, myself, thinking about maybe learning my way round LCD/Plasma sets, 
more out of curiosity than any hope of making money repairing them.

This Chinese 19" LCD monitor cost just over £100, which in real terms 
equates to about £30/40 when the PYE 222 hit the market as the first 
sub-£200 22" colour TV.
Anyone hoping the present boom and the price of large screen LCD TVs is 
going to hold for much longer is in for a shock, they cost bu**er-all  to 
produce and are going to be as cheap as chips, throw away items within 
months rather than years. (imo :-)

Djimbo 



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In message <4661345a$0$12513$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>, djimbo 
 writes
>
> wrote in message
>news:1180747357.422532.40400@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>> Jan or Feb this year.
>> A great shame as I had every copy for over 30 years.
>> It had been going downhill though but was many peoples' only real
>> source of good info.
I used to really enjoy Les Lawry Johns and the test cases..
>>
>> Regarding training, I would find it hard to see how anyone could make
>> repairing pay now.
It simply doesn't. You're far better off servicing washing machines and 
vacuum cleaners now although my local parts dealer has gone bump as 
well..
>> I used to spend most of my time reparing but seldom see a repair now
>> and spend most of the time installing.
>
>I knew they'd changed the name to something like TV and electronic repair a
>couple of years back (Round about the time I stopped subscribing) but they
>have actualy gone now have they?
>Ah the throw-away society,  the old TV trade has gone the same way as
>milkmen.
Umm, we still have milkmen here and Dairy Crest/Arla/Express Dairies or 
whatever they're called these days would tell you that they still have 
one or two..
>Anyone hoping the present boom and the price of large screen LCD TVs is
>going to hold for much longer is in for a shock, they cost bu**er-all  to
>produce and are going to be as cheap as chips, throw away items within
>months rather than years. (imo :-)
Hope you're right, I've been holding out for that to happen for two 
years now.
>
>Djimbo
>
>
>

-- 
Clint Sharp

Yes, I grew up on the Pye 222's and similar. Philips G8 and 11, GEC
2020.  It's easy to be nostalgic but it just is not as much fun now.
There is very little of real interest. The most frustrating thing is
still that so many people think that if something is new it is
automatically better and are totally blind (or deaf) to the hard
evidence.

Les Lawry-johns, yes, a great writer for years in Television mag. and
Don Bullock doing a similar column in later years. Don was dumped with
almost no notice, it seems, just before the final demise of the mag.
>From that point on, there was nothing left of interest to me in the
mag anyway.

Ah well, happy days!  I'm just off to hang another flat Tv on the wall
(there's more profit in the bracket anyway!)
 It just reinforces the fact that most people just use it as moving
wallpaper anyway!
Any jobs available in wallpaper repair?

"Clint Sharp"  mid posted in message
news:Vd$djIBJqZYGFwwT@clintsmc.demon.co.uk...

> I used to really enjoy Les Lawry Johns and the test cases..
Beware the blue tants!

> Umm, we still have milkmen here and Dairy Crest/Arla/Express Dairies or 
> whatever they're called these days would tell you that they still have one 
> or two..
Yep one or two same as TV engineers.

>>Anyone hoping the present boom and the price of large screen LCD TVs is
>>going to hold for much longer is in for a shock, they cost bu**er-all  to
>>produce and are going to be as cheap as chips, throw away items within
>>months rather than years. (imo :-)
> Hope you're right, I've been holding out for that to happen for two years 
> now.
My old Philips 28" feels the same, it needs an odd tube neck bash now and
then BUT
Over the last two years a 42" lcd has gone from £thousands to £hundreds, if
you and my Philips can just hold on a bit longer.
It's the same story as the colour then VCR boom.
A piano-key Hitachi 5000 cost £600 (£2grand+ in
present terms) now a far more sophisticated model = £35 or round about a
tenner in terms of value at the time of the VCR boom.
Or the first crappy valve colour sets (G6 dual std / Baird 700/ Decca CTV25)
costing the same as a van, once the market starts to even near saturation
the overproduction for the boom means - cheap as chips.
Last time(s) it was the Japanes now it's the Chinese.
I wonder if the UK will ever produce TVs again? I'm not holding my breath
for that one.

Djimbo.




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wrote in message 
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> Yes, I grew up on the Pye 222's and similar. Philips G8 and 11, GEC
> 2020.  It's easy to be nostalgic but it just is not as much fun now.
> There is very little of real interest. The most frustrating thing is
> still that so many people think that if something is new it is
> automatically better and are totally blind (or deaf) to the hard
> evidence.
>
> Les Lawry-johns, yes, a great writer for years in Television mag. and
> Don Bullock doing a similar column in later years. Don was dumped with
> almost no notice, it seems, just before the final demise of the mag.
>>From that point on, there was nothing left of interest to me in the
> mag anyway.
>
> Ah well, happy days!  I'm just off to hang another flat Tv on the wall
> (there's more profit in the bracket anyway!)
> It just reinforces the fact that most people just use it as moving
> wallpaper anyway!
> Any jobs available in wallpaper repair?

There's a thing that's been bothering me with all this wall hanging 
plasma/LCDs.
They always taught us that the ctr of the screen should be about eye-height 
when seated.
Doesn't watching all this wall hanging feel like sitting on the front row at 
the cinema?
and lead to all kinds of neck problems?
Perhaps that's the trade to be in, chyropracty.

Ah the G8 &11... Just ask me who got to do Visionhire's G9 course!
Ahhhh the nostalgia, it's making my teeth hurt.

Djimbo.



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>
> There's a thing that's been bothering me with all this wall hanging
> plasma/LCDs.
> They always taught us that the ctr of the screen should be about eye-height
> when seated.
> Doesn't watching all this wall hanging feel li