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date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 16:03:55 +0100,    group: uk.tech.tv.video.pvr        back       
Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems with 
the unit.

Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with a 
different maker.

Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 16:03:55 +0100   author:   SpAmTrAp ®

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
I have a Humax 9200T   PVR 160 gig H/D twin tuners and in my opinion they 
are brilliant
nice remote control no clutter on it and  good build quality.
On Dixon's website this weekend end they are down £159.99
for the money you won't do better.


"SpAmTrAp ®"  wrote in message 
news:pJWdnUBKjNPD_67bnZ2dnUVZ8sSrnZ2d@bt.com...
> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
> with the unit.
>
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with 
> a different maker.
>
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>
>
date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 11:17:26 +0100   author:   Nemo

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
SpAmTrAp ®  wrote:

> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems with
> the unit.
> 
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with a
> different maker.
> 
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.

Humax or Topfield. Both good, I have a Humax and don't know anything in
detail about the Topfield.
-- 
http://www.decohen.com
Send e-mail to the Reply-To address;
mail to the From address is never read
date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 12:54:29 +0100   author:   (Daniel Cohen)

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
SpAmTrAp ® wrote:
> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems with 
> the unit.
>
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with a 
> different maker.
>
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>
>
>   
I would recommend Inverto IDL7000 PVR (80Gb twin tuner)
Incredibly easy to use
You will pick one up on eBay  for about £80 - £100
I am selling my Humax PVR8000T as a result (£70 delivered if you're 
interested)
David
date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:00:12 GMT   author:   DCA

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
> with the unit.
>
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with 
> a different maker.
>
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.

I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD but so
far I've found that to be fine
They still have some left if you are prepared to phone them.
date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 10:44:24 +0100   author:   Tony

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
Tony wrote:

>> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
>> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
>> with the unit.
>>
>> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with 
>> a different maker.
>>
>> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
> 
> I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
> Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD but so
> far I've found that to be fine

I'd second that, I'm very happy with mine (use it as a second PVR after 
the TiVo). Only bear in mind that the product is EOLed so it's unlikely 
to get a system update to include things like PlayBack functionality 
that the newer more expensive (Humax, Topfield) boxes will get.

> They still have some left if you are prepared to phone them.

Really? What number?

Geoff
date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:13:17 +0100   author:   Geoff Winkless

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
"Geoff Winkless"  wrote in message 
news:4635f97d$0$7366$4d4eb98e@read.news.uk.uu.net...
> Tony wrote:
>
>>> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
>>> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
>>> with the unit.
>>>
>>> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off 
>>> with a different maker.
>>>
>>> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>>
>> I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
>> Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD but so
>> far I've found that to be fine
>
> I'd second that, I'm very happy with mine (use it as a second PVR after 
> the TiVo). Only bear in mind that the product is EOLed so it's unlikely to 
> get a system update to include things like PlayBack functionality that the 
> newer more expensive (Humax, Topfield) boxes will get.
>
>> They still have some left if you are prepared to phone them.
>
> Really? What number?

Customer services and give them the Argos catalogue number.
You then need to go to a local Argos store and find a friendly face and ask 
if they will do a store to store transfer.
Usually takes a few days as the goods have to go back to the central 
distribution depot and then to the store that you ordered from.
date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:02:59 +0100   author:   Tony

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 Daniel Cohen wrote:

>Humax or Topfield. Both good, I have a Humax and don't know anything in
>detail about the Topfield.

For those who just want a plug 'n' play solution the Humax is great. I 
borrowed a friend's machine when I was researching Freeview PVRs and the 
user interface on the vanilla Humax is very clean and intuitive.

I'm a tweaker and twiddler though and the Humax hardware itself was 
lacking a few too many bells and whistles and upgrading options for my 
liking, so I went for the Topfield.

The only problem with the Topfield is that the default user interface is 
a bit ugly and cluttered. However installing the well-known MyStuff user 
interface replacement results in a superlative machine, very easy to use 
and with an interface that's both attractive and information-rich, a 
combination that's not easy to achieve.

The Topfield / MyStuff combination isn't quite as slick or powerful as 
TiVo but it's a damned close second and free to boot. And of course if 
you've never seen a TiVo you won't know what you're missing.

It certainly blows VirginMedia's flagship V+ PVR out of the water when 
it comes to usability.

To recap: if you want a straightforward unit that's easy for anyone to 
use straight out of the box then go for the Humax. If you're an 
enthusiast and don't mind a bit of PC-to-PVR installation and 
configuration, grab a copy of MyStuff and install it on a Topfield.

-- 
Kev
__________________________________________________________________________
                              "Quarter of a million Chinese live on water."
                                                         Newspaper headline
date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:21:07 +0100   author:   Kevin Reilly

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
Tony wrote:
>> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo
>> DSD9520 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all
>> the problems with the unit.
>>
>> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better
>> off with a different maker.
>>
>> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>
> I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
> Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD
> but so far I've found that to be fine

Very simple to upgrade the hard drive, although hardware limitations mean
there is no point installing anything bigger than 160GB (only 137GB will be
usable).
date: Wed, 2 May 2007 11:16:04 +0100   author:   Pyriform

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
"Pyriform"  wrote in message 
news:hamdnSszSo0k-KXbnZ2dnUVZ8tOmnZ2d@pipex.net...
> Tony wrote:
>>> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo
>>> DSD9520 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all
>>> the problems with the unit.
>>>
>>> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better
>>> off with a different maker.
>>>
>>> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>>
>> I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
>> Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD
>> but so far I've found that to be fine
>
> Very simple to upgrade the hard drive, although hardware limitations mean
> there is no point installing anything bigger than 160GB (only 137GB will 
> be
> usable).

I thought it was hit and miss whether this worked or not certainly looks 
that way according to the forums.
Anyone managed to extract programs from the Hard Drive to their PC?

Cheers
date: Fri, 4 May 2007 10:02:50 +0100   author:   Tony

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
Tony wrote:
> "Pyriform" wrote:
>> Very simple to upgrade the hard drive, although hardware limitations
>> mean there is no point installing anything bigger than 160GB (only
>> 137GB will be usable).
>
> I thought it was hit and miss whether this worked or not certainly
> looks that way according to the forums.

Forums may give a somewhat skewed picture, because people tend to talk more 
about their failures than their successes. I used an old 120GB Hitachi 
Deskstar drive I had hanging around. I just cleared it using XP's disk 
management feature and whacked it in.

The only problem I had was truly horrendous seek noise. I fixed this by 
taking it out again and running a Hitachi utility software to adjust the 
acoustic management and power settings. I've been using it happily ever 
since.

> Anyone managed to extract programs from the Hard Drive to their PC?

I did this from the old drive when I replaced it, but it's not something I 
do routinely. Some people have gone as far as to install an IDE/USB adaptor 
or a drive caddy to facilitate the process. You need one of two freely 
downloadable programs to read the drive, the names of both of which escape 
me at the moment!
date: Fri, 4 May 2007 13:54:25 +0100   author:   Pyriform

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
I have a Humax 9200T   PVR 160 gig H/D twin tuners and in my opinion they 
are brilliant
nice remote control no clutter on it and  good build quality.
On Dixon's website this weekend end they are down £159.99
for the money you won't do better.


"SpAmTrAp ®"  wrote in message 
news:pJWdnUBKjNPD_67bnZ2dnUVZ8sSrnZ2d@bt.com...
> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
> with the unit.
>
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with 
> a different maker.
>
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>
>
date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 11:17:26 +0100   author:   Nemo

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
SpAmTrAp ®  wrote:

> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems with
> the unit.
> 
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with a
> different maker.
> 
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.

Humax or Topfield. Both good, I have a Humax and don't know anything in
detail about the Topfield.
-- 
http://www.decohen.com
Send e-mail to the Reply-To address;
mail to the From address is never read
date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 12:54:29 +0100   author:   (Daniel Cohen)

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
SpAmTrAp ® wrote:
> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems with 
> the unit.
>
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with a 
> different maker.
>
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>
>
>   
I would recommend Inverto IDL7000 PVR (80Gb twin tuner)
Incredibly easy to use
You will pick one up on eBay  for about £80 - £100
I am selling my Humax PVR8000T as a result (£70 delivered if you're 
interested)
David
date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:00:12 GMT   author:   DCA

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
> with the unit.
>
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with 
> a different maker.
>
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.

I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD but so
far I've found that to be fine
They still have some left if you are prepared to phone them.
date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 10:44:24 +0100   author:   Tony

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
Tony wrote:

>> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
>> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
>> with the unit.
>>
>> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with 
>> a different maker.
>>
>> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
> 
> I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
> Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD but so
> far I've found that to be fine

I'd second that, I'm very happy with mine (use it as a second PVR after 
the TiVo). Only bear in mind that the product is EOLed so it's unlikely 
to get a system update to include things like PlayBack functionality 
that the newer more expensive (Humax, Topfield) boxes will get.

> They still have some left if you are prepared to phone them.

Really? What number?

Geoff
date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:13:17 +0100   author:   Geoff Winkless

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
"Geoff Winkless"  wrote in message 
news:4635f97d$0$7366$4d4eb98e@read.news.uk.uu.net...
> Tony wrote:
>
>>> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
>>> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
>>> with the unit.
>>>
>>> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off 
>>> with a different maker.
>>>
>>> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>>
>> I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
>> Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD but so
>> far I've found that to be fine
>
> I'd second that, I'm very happy with mine (use it as a second PVR after 
> the TiVo). Only bear in mind that the product is EOLed so it's unlikely to 
> get a system update to include things like PlayBack functionality that the 
> newer more expensive (Humax, Topfield) boxes will get.
>
>> They still have some left if you are prepared to phone them.
>
> Really? What number?

Customer services and give them the Argos catalogue number.
You then need to go to a local Argos store and find a friendly face and ask 
if they will do a store to store transfer.
Usually takes a few days as the goods have to go back to the central 
distribution depot and then to the store that you ordered from.
date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:02:59 +0100   author:   Tony

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 Daniel Cohen wrote:

>Humax or Topfield. Both good, I have a Humax and don't know anything in
>detail about the Topfield.

For those who just want a plug 'n' play solution the Humax is great. I 
borrowed a friend's machine when I was researching Freeview PVRs and the 
user interface on the vanilla Humax is very clean and intuitive.

I'm a tweaker and twiddler though and the Humax hardware itself was 
lacking a few too many bells and whistles and upgrading options for my 
liking, so I went for the Topfield.

The only problem with the Topfield is that the default user interface is 
a bit ugly and cluttered. However installing the well-known MyStuff user 
interface replacement results in a superlative machine, very easy to use 
and with an interface that's both attractive and information-rich, a 
combination that's not easy to achieve.

The Topfield / MyStuff combination isn't quite as slick or powerful as 
TiVo but it's a damned close second and free to boot. And of course if 
you've never seen a TiVo you won't know what you're missing.

It certainly blows VirginMedia's flagship V+ PVR out of the water when 
it comes to usability.

To recap: if you want a straightforward unit that's easy for anyone to 
use straight out of the box then go for the Humax. If you're an 
enthusiast and don't mind a bit of PC-to-PVR installation and 
configuration, grab a copy of MyStuff and install it on a Topfield.

-- 
Kev
__________________________________________________________________________
                              "Quarter of a million Chinese live on water."
                                                         Newspaper headline
date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:21:07 +0100   author:   Kevin Reilly

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
Tony wrote:
>> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo
>> DSD9520 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all
>> the problems with the unit.
>>
>> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better
>> off with a different maker.
>>
>> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>
> I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
> Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD
> but so far I've found that to be fine

Very simple to upgrade the hard drive, although hardware limitations mean
there is no point installing anything bigger than 160GB (only 137GB will be
usable).
date: Wed, 2 May 2007 11:16:04 +0100   author:   Pyriform

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
"Pyriform"  wrote in message 
news:hamdnSszSo0k-KXbnZ2dnUVZ8tOmnZ2d@pipex.net...
> Tony wrote:
>>> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo
>>> DSD9520 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all
>>> the problems with the unit.
>>>
>>> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better
>>> off with a different maker.
>>>
>>> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>>
>> I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
>> Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD
>> but so far I've found that to be fine
>
> Very simple to upgrade the hard drive, although hardware limitations mean
> there is no point installing anything bigger than 160GB (only 137GB will 
> be
> usable).

I thought it was hit and miss whether this worked or not certainly looks 
that way according to the forums.
Anyone managed to extract programs from the Hard Drive to their PC?

Cheers
date: Fri, 4 May 2007 10:02:50 +0100   author:   Tony

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
Tony wrote:
> "Pyriform" wrote:
>> Very simple to upgrade the hard drive, although hardware limitations
>> mean there is no point installing anything bigger than 160GB (only
>> 137GB will be usable).
>
> I thought it was hit and miss whether this worked or not certainly
> looks that way according to the forums.

Forums may give a somewhat skewed picture, because people tend to talk more 
about their failures than their successes. I used an old 120GB Hitachi 
Deskstar drive I had hanging around. I just cleared it using XP's disk 
management feature and whacked it in.

The only problem I had was truly horrendous seek noise. I fixed this by 
taking it out again and running a Hitachi utility software to adjust the 
acoustic management and power settings. I've been using it happily ever 
since.

> Anyone managed to extract programs from the Hard Drive to their PC?

I did this from the old drive when I replaced it, but it's not something I 
do routinely. Some people have gone as far as to install an IDE/USB adaptor 
or a drive caddy to facilitate the process. You need one of two freely 
downloadable programs to read the drive, the names of both of which escape 
me at the moment!
date: Fri, 4 May 2007 13:54:25 +0100   author:   Pyriform

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
I have a Humax 9200T   PVR 160 gig H/D twin tuners and in my opinion they 
are brilliant
nice remote control no clutter on it and  good build quality.
On Dixon's website this weekend end they are down £159.99
for the money you won't do better.


"SpAmTrAp ®"  wrote in message 
news:pJWdnUBKjNPD_67bnZ2dnUVZ8sSrnZ2d@bt.com...
> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
> with the unit.
>
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with 
> a different maker.
>
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>
>
date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 11:17:26 +0100   author:   Nemo

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
SpAmTrAp ®  wrote:

> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems with
> the unit.
> 
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with a
> different maker.
> 
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.

Humax or Topfield. Both good, I have a Humax and don't know anything in
detail about the Topfield.
-- 
http://www.decohen.com
Send e-mail to the Reply-To address;
mail to the From address is never read
date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 12:54:29 +0100   author:   (Daniel Cohen)

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
SpAmTrAp ® wrote:
> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems with 
> the unit.
>
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with a 
> different maker.
>
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>
>
>   
I would recommend Inverto IDL7000 PVR (80Gb twin tuner)
Incredibly easy to use
You will pick one up on eBay  for about £80 - £100
I am selling my Humax PVR8000T as a result (£70 delivered if you're 
interested)
David
date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:00:12 GMT   author:   DCA

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
> with the unit.
>
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with 
> a different maker.
>
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.

I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD but so
far I've found that to be fine
They still have some left if you are prepared to phone them.
date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 10:44:24 +0100   author:   Tony

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
Tony wrote:

>> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
>> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
>> with the unit.
>>
>> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with 
>> a different maker.
>>
>> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
> 
> I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
> Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD but so
> far I've found that to be fine

I'd second that, I'm very happy with mine (use it as a second PVR after 
the TiVo). Only bear in mind that the product is EOLed so it's unlikely 
to get a system update to include things like PlayBack functionality 
that the newer more expensive (Humax, Topfield) boxes will get.

> They still have some left if you are prepared to phone them.

Really? What number?

Geoff
date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:13:17 +0100   author:   Geoff Winkless

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
"Geoff Winkless"  wrote in message 
news:4635f97d$0$7366$4d4eb98e@read.news.uk.uu.net...
> Tony wrote:
>
>>> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
>>> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
>>> with the unit.
>>>
>>> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off 
>>> with a different maker.
>>>
>>> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>>
>> I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
>> Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD but so
>> far I've found that to be fine
>
> I'd second that, I'm very happy with mine (use it as a second PVR after 
> the TiVo). Only bear in mind that the product is EOLed so it's unlikely to 
> get a system update to include things like PlayBack functionality that the 
> newer more expensive (Humax, Topfield) boxes will get.
>
>> They still have some left if you are prepared to phone them.
>
> Really? What number?

Customer services and give them the Argos catalogue number.
You then need to go to a local Argos store and find a friendly face and ask 
if they will do a store to store transfer.
Usually takes a few days as the goods have to go back to the central 
distribution depot and then to the store that you ordered from.
date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:02:59 +0100   author:   Tony

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 Daniel Cohen wrote:

>Humax or Topfield. Both good, I have a Humax and don't know anything in
>detail about the Topfield.

For those who just want a plug 'n' play solution the Humax is great. I 
borrowed a friend's machine when I was researching Freeview PVRs and the 
user interface on the vanilla Humax is very clean and intuitive.

I'm a tweaker and twiddler though and the Humax hardware itself was 
lacking a few too many bells and whistles and upgrading options for my 
liking, so I went for the Topfield.

The only problem with the Topfield is that the default user interface is 
a bit ugly and cluttered. However installing the well-known MyStuff user 
interface replacement results in a superlative machine, very easy to use 
and with an interface that's both attractive and information-rich, a 
combination that's not easy to achieve.

The Topfield / MyStuff combination isn't quite as slick or powerful as 
TiVo but it's a damned close second and free to boot. And of course if 
you've never seen a TiVo you won't know what you're missing.

It certainly blows VirginMedia's flagship V+ PVR out of the water when 
it comes to usability.

To recap: if you want a straightforward unit that's easy for anyone to 
use straight out of the box then go for the Humax. If you're an 
enthusiast and don't mind a bit of PC-to-PVR installation and 
configuration, grab a copy of MyStuff and install it on a Topfield.

-- 
Kev
__________________________________________________________________________
                              "Quarter of a million Chinese live on water."
                                                         Newspaper headline
date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:21:07 +0100   author:   Kevin Reilly

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
Tony wrote:
>> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo
>> DSD9520 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all
>> the problems with the unit.
>>
>> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better
>> off with a different maker.
>>
>> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>
> I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
> Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD
> but so far I've found that to be fine

Very simple to upgrade the hard drive, although hardware limitations mean
there is no point installing anything bigger than 160GB (only 137GB will be
usable).
date: Wed, 2 May 2007 11:16:04 +0100   author:   Pyriform

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
"Pyriform"  wrote in message 
news:hamdnSszSo0k-KXbnZ2dnUVZ8tOmnZ2d@pipex.net...
> Tony wrote:
>>> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo
>>> DSD9520 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all
>>> the problems with the unit.
>>>
>>> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better
>>> off with a different maker.
>>>
>>> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>>
>> I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
>> Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD
>> but so far I've found that to be fine
>
> Very simple to upgrade the hard drive, although hardware limitations mean
> there is no point installing anything bigger than 160GB (only 137GB will 
> be
> usable).

I thought it was hit and miss whether this worked or not certainly looks 
that way according to the forums.
Anyone managed to extract programs from the Hard Drive to their PC?

Cheers
date: Fri, 4 May 2007 10:02:50 +0100   author:   Tony

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
Tony wrote:
> "Pyriform" wrote:
>> Very simple to upgrade the hard drive, although hardware limitations
>> mean there is no point installing anything bigger than 160GB (only
>> 137GB will be usable).
>
> I thought it was hit and miss whether this worked or not certainly
> looks that way according to the forums.

Forums may give a somewhat skewed picture, because people tend to talk more 
about their failures than their successes. I used an old 120GB Hitachi 
Deskstar drive I had hanging around. I just cleared it using XP's disk 
management feature and whacked it in.

The only problem I had was truly horrendous seek noise. I fixed this by 
taking it out again and running a Hitachi utility software to adjust the 
acoustic management and power settings. I've been using it happily ever 
since.

> Anyone managed to extract programs from the Hard Drive to their PC?

I did this from the old drive when I replaced it, but it's not something I 
do routinely. Some people have gone as far as to install an IDE/USB adaptor 
or a drive caddy to facilitate the process. You need one of two freely 
downloadable programs to read the drive, the names of both of which escape 
me at the moment!
date: Fri, 4 May 2007 13:54:25 +0100   author:   Pyriform

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
I have a Humax 9200T   PVR 160 gig H/D twin tuners and in my opinion they 
are brilliant
nice remote control no clutter on it and  good build quality.
On Dixon's website this weekend end they are down £159.99
for the money you won't do better.


"SpAmTrAp ®"  wrote in message 
news:pJWdnUBKjNPD_67bnZ2dnUVZ8sSrnZ2d@bt.com...
> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
> with the unit.
>
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with 
> a different maker.
>
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>
>
date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 11:17:26 +0100   author:   Nemo

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
SpAmTrAp ®  wrote:

> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems with
> the unit.
> 
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with a
> different maker.
> 
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.

Humax or Topfield. Both good, I have a Humax and don't know anything in
detail about the Topfield.
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date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 12:54:29 +0100   author:   (Daniel Cohen)

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
SpAmTrAp ® wrote:
> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems with 
> the unit.
>
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with a 
> different maker.
>
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>
>
>   
I would recommend Inverto IDL7000 PVR (80Gb twin tuner)
Incredibly easy to use
You will pick one up on eBay  for about £80 - £100
I am selling my Humax PVR8000T as a result (£70 delivered if you're 
interested)
David
date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:00:12 GMT   author:   DCA

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
> with the unit.
>
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with 
> a different maker.
>
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.

I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD but so
far I've found that to be fine
They still have some left if you are prepared to phone them.
date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 10:44:24 +0100   author:   Tony

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
Tony wrote:

>> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
>> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
>> with the unit.
>>
>> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with 
>> a different maker.
>>
>> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
> 
> I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
> Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD but so
> far I've found that to be fine

I'd second that, I'm very happy with mine (use it as a second PVR after 
the TiVo). Only bear in mind that the product is EOLed so it's unlikely 
to get a system update to include things like PlayBack functionality 
that the newer more expensive (Humax, Topfield) boxes will get.

> They still have some left if you are prepared to phone them.

Really? What number?

Geoff
date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:13:17 +0100   author:   Geoff Winkless

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
"Geoff Winkless"  wrote in message 
news:4635f97d$0$7366$4d4eb98e@read.news.uk.uu.net...
> Tony wrote:
>
>>> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
>>> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
>>> with the unit.
>>>
>>> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off 
>>> with a different maker.
>>>
>>> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>>
>> I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
>> Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD but so
>> far I've found that to be fine
>
> I'd second that, I'm very happy with mine (use it as a second PVR after 
> the TiVo). Only bear in mind that the product is EOLed so it's unlikely to 
> get a system update to include things like PlayBack functionality that the 
> newer more expensive (Humax, Topfield) boxes will get.
>
>> They still have some left if you are prepared to phone them.
>
> Really? What number?

Customer services and give them the Argos catalogue number.
You then need to go to a local Argos store and find a friendly face and ask 
if they will do a store to store transfer.
Usually takes a few days as the goods have to go back to the central 
distribution depot and then to the store that you ordered from.
date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:02:59 +0100   author:   Tony

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 Daniel Cohen wrote:

>Humax or Topfield. Both good, I have a Humax and don't know anything in
>detail about the Topfield.

For those who just want a plug 'n' play solution the Humax is great. I 
borrowed a friend's machine when I was researching Freeview PVRs and the 
user interface on the vanilla Humax is very clean and intuitive.

I'm a tweaker and twiddler though and the Humax hardware itself was 
lacking a few too many bells and whistles and upgrading options for my 
liking, so I went for the Topfield.

The only problem with the Topfield is that the default user interface is 
a bit ugly and cluttered. However installing the well-known MyStuff user 
interface replacement results in a superlative machine, very easy to use 
and with an interface that's both attractive and information-rich, a 
combination that's not easy to achieve.

The Topfield / MyStuff combination isn't quite as slick or powerful as 
TiVo but it's a damned close second and free to boot. And of course if 
you've never seen a TiVo you won't know what you're missing.

It certainly blows VirginMedia's flagship V+ PVR out of the water when 
it comes to usability.

To recap: if you want a straightforward unit that's easy for anyone to 
use straight out of the box then go for the Humax. If you're an 
enthusiast and don't mind a bit of PC-to-PVR installation and 
configuration, grab a copy of MyStuff and install it on a Topfield.

-- 
Kev
__________________________________________________________________________
                              "Quarter of a million Chinese live on water."
                                                         Newspaper headline
date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:21:07 +0100   author:   Kevin Reilly

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
Tony wrote:
>> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo
>> DSD9520 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all
>> the problems with the unit.
>>
>> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better
>> off with a different maker.
>>
>> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>
> I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
> Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD
> but so far I've found that to be fine

Very simple to upgrade the hard drive, although hardware limitations mean
there is no point installing anything bigger than 160GB (only 137GB will be
usable).
date: Wed, 2 May 2007 11:16:04 +0100   author:   Pyriform

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
"Pyriform"  wrote in message 
news:hamdnSszSo0k-KXbnZ2dnUVZ8tOmnZ2d@pipex.net...
> Tony wrote:
>>> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo
>>> DSD9520 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all
>>> the problems with the unit.
>>>
>>> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better
>>> off with a different maker.
>>>
>>> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>>
>> I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
>> Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD
>> but so far I've found that to be fine
>
> Very simple to upgrade the hard drive, although hardware limitations mean
> there is no point installing anything bigger than 160GB (only 137GB will 
> be
> usable).

I thought it was hit and miss whether this worked or not certainly looks 
that way according to the forums.
Anyone managed to extract programs from the Hard Drive to their PC?

Cheers
date: Fri, 4 May 2007 10:02:50 +0100   author:   Tony

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
Tony wrote:
> "Pyriform" wrote:
>> Very simple to upgrade the hard drive, although hardware limitations
>> mean there is no point installing anything bigger than 160GB (only
>> 137GB will be usable).
>
> I thought it was hit and miss whether this worked or not certainly
> looks that way according to the forums.

Forums may give a somewhat skewed picture, because people tend to talk more 
about their failures than their successes. I used an old 120GB Hitachi 
Deskstar drive I had hanging around. I just cleared it using XP's disk 
management feature and whacked it in.

The only problem I had was truly horrendous seek noise. I fixed this by 
taking it out again and running a Hitachi utility software to adjust the 
acoustic management and power settings. I've been using it happily ever 
since.

> Anyone managed to extract programs from the Hard Drive to their PC?

I did this from the old drive when I replaced it, but it's not something I 
do routinely. Some people have gone as far as to install an IDE/USB adaptor 
or a drive caddy to facilitate the process. You need one of two freely 
downloadable programs to read the drive, the names of both of which escape 
me at the moment!
date: Fri, 4 May 2007 13:54:25 +0100   author:   Pyriform

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
I have a Humax 9200T   PVR 160 gig H/D twin tuners and in my opinion they 
are brilliant
nice remote control no clutter on it and  good build quality.
On Dixon's website this weekend end they are down £159.99
for the money you won't do better.


"SpAmTrAp ®"  wrote in message 
news:pJWdnUBKjNPD_67bnZ2dnUVZ8sSrnZ2d@bt.com...
> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
> with the unit.
>
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with 
> a different maker.
>
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>
>
date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 11:17:26 +0100   author:   Nemo

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
SpAmTrAp ®  wrote:

> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems with
> the unit.
> 
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with a
> different maker.
> 
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.

Humax or Topfield. Both good, I have a Humax and don't know anything in
detail about the Topfield.
-- 
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date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 12:54:29 +0100   author:   (Daniel Cohen)

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
SpAmTrAp ® wrote:
> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems with 
> the unit.
>
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with a 
> different maker.
>
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>
>
>   
I would recommend Inverto IDL7000 PVR (80Gb twin tuner)
Incredibly easy to use
You will pick one up on eBay  for about £80 - £100
I am selling my Humax PVR8000T as a result (£70 delivered if you're 
interested)
David
date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:00:12 GMT   author:   DCA

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
> with the unit.
>
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with 
> a different maker.
>
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.

I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD but so
far I've found that to be fine
They still have some left if you are prepared to phone them.
date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 10:44:24 +0100   author:   Tony

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
Tony wrote:

>> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
>> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
>> with the unit.
>>
>> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with 
>> a different maker.
>>
>> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
> 
> I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
> Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD but so
> far I've found that to be fine

I'd second that, I'm very happy with mine (use it as a second PVR after 
the TiVo). Only bear in mind that the product is EOLed so it's unlikely 
to get a system update to include things like PlayBack functionality 
that the newer more expensive (Humax, Topfield) boxes will get.

> They still have some left if you are prepared to phone them.

Really? What number?

Geoff
date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:13:17 +0100   author:   Geoff Winkless

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
"Geoff Winkless"  wrote in message 
news:4635f97d$0$7366$4d4eb98e@read.news.uk.uu.net...
> Tony wrote:
>
>>> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
>>> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
>>> with the unit.
>>>
>>> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off 
>>> with a different maker.
>>>
>>> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>>
>> I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
>> Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD but so
>> far I've found that to be fine
>
> I'd second that, I'm very happy with mine (use it as a second PVR after 
> the TiVo). Only bear in mind that the product is EOLed so it's unlikely to 
> get a system update to include things like PlayBack functionality that the 
> newer more expensive (Humax, Topfield) boxes will get.
>
>> They still have some left if you are prepared to phone them.
>
> Really? What number?

Customer services and give them the Argos catalogue number.
You then need to go to a local Argos store and find a friendly face and ask 
if they will do a store to store transfer.
Usually takes a few days as the goods have to go back to the central 
distribution depot and then to the store that you ordered from.
date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:02:59 +0100   author:   Tony

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 Daniel Cohen wrote:

>Humax or Topfield. Both good, I have a Humax and don't know anything in
>detail about the Topfield.

For those who just want a plug 'n' play solution the Humax is great. I 
borrowed a friend's machine when I was researching Freeview PVRs and the 
user interface on the vanilla Humax is very clean and intuitive.

I'm a tweaker and twiddler though and the Humax hardware itself was 
lacking a few too many bells and whistles and upgrading options for my 
liking, so I went for the Topfield.

The only problem with the Topfield is that the default user interface is 
a bit ugly and cluttered. However installing the well-known MyStuff user 
interface replacement results in a superlative machine, very easy to use 
and with an interface that's both attractive and information-rich, a 
combination that's not easy to achieve.

The Topfield / MyStuff combination isn't quite as slick or powerful as 
TiVo but it's a damned close second and free to boot. And of course if 
you've never seen a TiVo you won't know what you're missing.

It certainly blows VirginMedia's flagship V+ PVR out of the water when 
it comes to usability.

To recap: if you want a straightforward unit that's easy for anyone to 
use straight out of the box then go for the Humax. If you're an 
enthusiast and don't mind a bit of PC-to-PVR installation and 
configuration, grab a copy of MyStuff and install it on a Topfield.

-- 
Kev
__________________________________________________________________________
                              "Quarter of a million Chinese live on water."
                                                         Newspaper headline
date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:21:07 +0100   author:   Kevin Reilly

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
Tony wrote:
>> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo
>> DSD9520 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all
>> the problems with the unit.
>>
>> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better
>> off with a different maker.
>>
>> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>
> I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
> Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD
> but so far I've found that to be fine

Very simple to upgrade the hard drive, although hardware limitations mean
there is no point installing anything bigger than 160GB (only 137GB will be
usable).
date: Wed, 2 May 2007 11:16:04 +0100   author:   Pyriform

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
"Pyriform"  wrote in message 
news:hamdnSszSo0k-KXbnZ2dnUVZ8tOmnZ2d@pipex.net...
> Tony wrote:
>>> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo
>>> DSD9520 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all
>>> the problems with the unit.
>>>
>>> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better
>>> off with a different maker.
>>>
>>> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>>
>> I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
>> Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD
>> but so far I've found that to be fine
>
> Very simple to upgrade the hard drive, although hardware limitations mean
> there is no point installing anything bigger than 160GB (only 137GB will 
> be
> usable).

I thought it was hit and miss whether this worked or not certainly looks 
that way according to the forums.
Anyone managed to extract programs from the Hard Drive to their PC?

Cheers
date: Fri, 4 May 2007 10:02:50 +0100   author:   Tony

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
Tony wrote:
> "Pyriform" wrote:
>> Very simple to upgrade the hard drive, although hardware limitations
>> mean there is no point installing anything bigger than 160GB (only
>> 137GB will be usable).
>
> I thought it was hit and miss whether this worked or not certainly
> looks that way according to the forums.

Forums may give a somewhat skewed picture, because people tend to talk more 
about their failures than their successes. I used an old 120GB Hitachi 
Deskstar drive I had hanging around. I just cleared it using XP's disk 
management feature and whacked it in.

The only problem I had was truly horrendous seek noise. I fixed this by 
taking it out again and running a Hitachi utility software to adjust the 
acoustic management and power settings. I've been using it happily ever 
since.

> Anyone managed to extract programs from the Hard Drive to their PC?

I did this from the old drive when I replaced it, but it's not something I 
do routinely. Some people have gone as far as to install an IDE/USB adaptor 
or a drive caddy to facilitate the process. You need one of two freely 
downloadable programs to read the drive, the names of both of which escape 
me at the moment!
date: Fri, 4 May 2007 13:54:25 +0100   author:   Pyriform

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
I have a Humax 9200T   PVR 160 gig H/D twin tuners and in my opinion they 
are brilliant
nice remote control no clutter on it and  good build quality.
On Dixon's website this weekend end they are down £159.99
for the money you won't do better.


"SpAmTrAp ®"  wrote in message 
news:pJWdnUBKjNPD_67bnZ2dnUVZ8sSrnZ2d@bt.com...
> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
> with the unit.
>
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with 
> a different maker.
>
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>
>
date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 11:17:26 +0100   author:   Nemo

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
SpAmTrAp ®  wrote:

> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems with
> the unit.
> 
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with a
> different maker.
> 
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.

Humax or Topfield. Both good, I have a Humax and don't know anything in
detail about the Topfield.
-- 
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date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 12:54:29 +0100   author:   (Daniel Cohen)

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
SpAmTrAp ® wrote:
> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems with 
> the unit.
>
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with a 
> different maker.
>
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>
>
>   
I would recommend Inverto IDL7000 PVR (80Gb twin tuner)
Incredibly easy to use
You will pick one up on eBay  for about £80 - £100
I am selling my Humax PVR8000T as a result (£70 delivered if you're 
interested)
David
date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:00:12 GMT   author:   DCA

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
> with the unit.
>
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with 
> a different maker.
>
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.

I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD but so
far I've found that to be fine
They still have some left if you are prepared to phone them.
date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 10:44:24 +0100   author:   Tony

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
Tony wrote:

>> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
>> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
>> with the unit.
>>
>> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with 
>> a different maker.
>>
>> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
> 
> I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
> Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD but so
> far I've found that to be fine

I'd second that, I'm very happy with mine (use it as a second PVR after 
the TiVo). Only bear in mind that the product is EOLed so it's unlikely 
to get a system update to include things like PlayBack functionality 
that the newer more expensive (Humax, Topfield) boxes will get.

> They still have some left if you are prepared to phone them.

Really? What number?

Geoff
date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:13:17 +0100   author:   Geoff Winkless

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
"Geoff Winkless"  wrote in message 
news:4635f97d$0$7366$4d4eb98e@read.news.uk.uu.net...
> Tony wrote:
>
>>> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
>>> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
>>> with the unit.
>>>
>>> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off 
>>> with a different maker.
>>>
>>> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>>
>> I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
>> Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD but so
>> far I've found that to be fine
>
> I'd second that, I'm very happy with mine (use it as a second PVR after 
> the TiVo). Only bear in mind that the product is EOLed so it's unlikely to 
> get a system update to include things like PlayBack functionality that the 
> newer more expensive (Humax, Topfield) boxes will get.
>
>> They still have some left if you are prepared to phone them.
>
> Really? What number?

Customer services and give them the Argos catalogue number.
You then need to go to a local Argos store and find a friendly face and ask 
if they will do a store to store transfer.
Usually takes a few days as the goods have to go back to the central 
distribution depot and then to the store that you ordered from.
date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:02:59 +0100   author:   Tony

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 Daniel Cohen wrote:

>Humax or Topfield. Both good, I have a Humax and don't know anything in
>detail about the Topfield.

For those who just want a plug 'n' play solution the Humax is great. I 
borrowed a friend's machine when I was researching Freeview PVRs and the 
user interface on the vanilla Humax is very clean and intuitive.

I'm a tweaker and twiddler though and the Humax hardware itself was 
lacking a few too many bells and whistles and upgrading options for my 
liking, so I went for the Topfield.

The only problem with the Topfield is that the default user interface is 
a bit ugly and cluttered. However installing the well-known MyStuff user 
interface replacement results in a superlative machine, very easy to use 
and with an interface that's both attractive and information-rich, a 
combination that's not easy to achieve.

The Topfield / MyStuff combination isn't quite as slick or powerful as 
TiVo but it's a damned close second and free to boot. And of course if 
you've never seen a TiVo you won't know what you're missing.

It certainly blows VirginMedia's flagship V+ PVR out of the water when 
it comes to usability.

To recap: if you want a straightforward unit that's easy for anyone to 
use straight out of the box then go for the Humax. If you're an 
enthusiast and don't mind a bit of PC-to-PVR installation and 
configuration, grab a copy of MyStuff and install it on a Topfield.

-- 
Kev
__________________________________________________________________________
                              "Quarter of a million Chinese live on water."
                                                         Newspaper headline
date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:21:07 +0100   author:   Kevin Reilly

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
Tony wrote:
>> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo
>> DSD9520 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all
>> the problems with the unit.
>>
>> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better
>> off with a different maker.
>>
>> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>
> I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
> Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD
> but so far I've found that to be fine

Very simple to upgrade the hard drive, although hardware limitations mean
there is no point installing anything bigger than 160GB (only 137GB will be
usable).
date: Wed, 2 May 2007 11:16:04 +0100   author:   Pyriform

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
"Pyriform"  wrote in message 
news:hamdnSszSo0k-KXbnZ2dnUVZ8tOmnZ2d@pipex.net...
> Tony wrote:
>>> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo
>>> DSD9520 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all
>>> the problems with the unit.
>>>
>>> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better
>>> off with a different maker.
>>>
>>> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>>
>> I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
>> Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD
>> but so far I've found that to be fine
>
> Very simple to upgrade the hard drive, although hardware limitations mean
> there is no point installing anything bigger than 160GB (only 137GB will 
> be
> usable).

I thought it was hit and miss whether this worked or not certainly looks 
that way according to the forums.
Anyone managed to extract programs from the Hard Drive to their PC?

Cheers
date: Fri, 4 May 2007 10:02:50 +0100   author:   Tony

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
Tony wrote:
> "Pyriform" wrote:
>> Very simple to upgrade the hard drive, although hardware limitations
>> mean there is no point installing anything bigger than 160GB (only
>> 137GB will be usable).
>
> I thought it was hit and miss whether this worked or not certainly
> looks that way according to the forums.

Forums may give a somewhat skewed picture, because people tend to talk more 
about their failures than their successes. I used an old 120GB Hitachi 
Deskstar drive I had hanging around. I just cleared it using XP's disk 
management feature and whacked it in.

The only problem I had was truly horrendous seek noise. I fixed this by 
taking it out again and running a Hitachi utility software to adjust the 
acoustic management and power settings. I've been using it happily ever 
since.

> Anyone managed to extract programs from the Hard Drive to their PC?

I did this from the old drive when I replaced it, but it's not something I 
do routinely. Some people have gone as far as to install an IDE/USB adaptor 
or a drive caddy to facilitate the process. You need one of two freely 
downloadable programs to read the drive, the names of both of which escape 
me at the moment!
date: Fri, 4 May 2007 13:54:25 +0100   author:   Pyriform

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
I have a Humax 9200T   PVR 160 gig H/D twin tuners and in my opinion they 
are brilliant
nice remote control no clutter on it and  good build quality.
On Dixon's website this weekend end they are down £159.99
for the money you won't do better.


"SpAmTrAp ®"  wrote in message 
news:pJWdnUBKjNPD_67bnZ2dnUVZ8sSrnZ2d@bt.com...
> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
> with the unit.
>
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with 
> a different maker.
>
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>
>
date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 11:17:26 +0100   author:   Nemo

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
SpAmTrAp ®  wrote:

> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems with
> the unit.
> 
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with a
> different maker.
> 
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.

Humax or Topfield. Both good, I have a Humax and don't know anything in
detail about the Topfield.
-- 
http://www.decohen.com
Send e-mail to the Reply-To address;
mail to the From address is never read
date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 12:54:29 +0100   author:   (Daniel Cohen)

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
SpAmTrAp ® wrote:
> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems with 
> the unit.
>
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with a 
> different maker.
>
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>
>
>   
I would recommend Inverto IDL7000 PVR (80Gb twin tuner)
Incredibly easy to use
You will pick one up on eBay  for about £80 - £100
I am selling my Humax PVR8000T as a result (£70 delivered if you're 
interested)
David
date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:00:12 GMT   author:   DCA

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
> with the unit.
>
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with 
> a different maker.
>
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.

I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD but so
far I've found that to be fine
They still have some left if you are prepared to phone them.
date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 10:44:24 +0100   author:   Tony

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
Tony wrote:

>> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
>> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
>> with the unit.
>>
>> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with 
>> a different maker.
>>
>> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
> 
> I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
> Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD but so
> far I've found that to be fine

I'd second that, I'm very happy with mine (use it as a second PVR after 
the TiVo). Only bear in mind that the product is EOLed so it's unlikely 
to get a system update to include things like PlayBack functionality 
that the newer more expensive (Humax, Topfield) boxes will get.

> They still have some left if you are prepared to phone them.

Really? What number?

Geoff
date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:13:17 +0100   author:   Geoff Winkless

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
"Geoff Winkless"  wrote in message 
news:4635f97d$0$7366$4d4eb98e@read.news.uk.uu.net...
> Tony wrote:
>
>>> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
>>> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
>>> with the unit.
>>>
>>> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off 
>>> with a different maker.
>>>
>>> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>>
>> I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
>> Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD but so
>> far I've found that to be fine
>
> I'd second that, I'm very happy with mine (use it as a second PVR after 
> the TiVo). Only bear in mind that the product is EOLed so it's unlikely to 
> get a system update to include things like PlayBack functionality that the 
> newer more expensive (Humax, Topfield) boxes will get.
>
>> They still have some left if you are prepared to phone them.
>
> Really? What number?

Customer services and give them the Argos catalogue number.
You then need to go to a local Argos store and find a friendly face and ask 
if they will do a store to store transfer.
Usually takes a few days as the goods have to go back to the central 
distribution depot and then to the store that you ordered from.
date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:02:59 +0100   author:   Tony

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 Daniel Cohen wrote:

>Humax or Topfield. Both good, I have a Humax and don't know anything in
>detail about the Topfield.

For those who just want a plug 'n' play solution the Humax is great. I 
borrowed a friend's machine when I was researching Freeview PVRs and the 
user interface on the vanilla Humax is very clean and intuitive.

I'm a tweaker and twiddler though and the Humax hardware itself was 
lacking a few too many bells and whistles and upgrading options for my 
liking, so I went for the Topfield.

The only problem with the Topfield is that the default user interface is 
a bit ugly and cluttered. However installing the well-known MyStuff user 
interface replacement results in a superlative machine, very easy to use 
and with an interface that's both attractive and information-rich, a 
combination that's not easy to achieve.

The Topfield / MyStuff combination isn't quite as slick or powerful as 
TiVo but it's a damned close second and free to boot. And of course if 
you've never seen a TiVo you won't know what you're missing.

It certainly blows VirginMedia's flagship V+ PVR out of the water when 
it comes to usability.

To recap: if you want a straightforward unit that's easy for anyone to 
use straight out of the box then go for the Humax. If you're an 
enthusiast and don't mind a bit of PC-to-PVR installation and 
configuration, grab a copy of MyStuff and install it on a Topfield.

-- 
Kev
__________________________________________________________________________
                              "Quarter of a million Chinese live on water."
                                                         Newspaper headline
date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:21:07 +0100   author:   Kevin Reilly

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
Tony wrote:
>> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo
>> DSD9520 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all
>> the problems with the unit.
>>
>> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better
>> off with a different maker.
>>
>> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>
> I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
> Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD
> but so far I've found that to be fine

Very simple to upgrade the hard drive, although hardware limitations mean
there is no point installing anything bigger than 160GB (only 137GB will be
usable).
date: Wed, 2 May 2007 11:16:04 +0100   author:   Pyriform

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
"Pyriform"  wrote in message 
news:hamdnSszSo0k-KXbnZ2dnUVZ8tOmnZ2d@pipex.net...
> Tony wrote:
>>> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo
>>> DSD9520 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all
>>> the problems with the unit.
>>>
>>> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better
>>> off with a different maker.
>>>
>>> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>>
>> I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
>> Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD
>> but so far I've found that to be fine
>
> Very simple to upgrade the hard drive, although hardware limitations mean
> there is no point installing anything bigger than 160GB (only 137GB will 
> be
> usable).

I thought it was hit and miss whether this worked or not certainly looks 
that way according to the forums.
Anyone managed to extract programs from the Hard Drive to their PC?

Cheers
date: Fri, 4 May 2007 10:02:50 +0100   author:   Tony

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
Tony wrote:
> "Pyriform" wrote:
>> Very simple to upgrade the hard drive, although hardware limitations
>> mean there is no point installing anything bigger than 160GB (only
>> 137GB will be usable).
>
> I thought it was hit and miss whether this worked or not certainly
> looks that way according to the forums.

Forums may give a somewhat skewed picture, because people tend to talk more 
about their failures than their successes. I used an old 120GB Hitachi 
Deskstar drive I had hanging around. I just cleared it using XP's disk 
management feature and whacked it in.

The only problem I had was truly horrendous seek noise. I fixed this by 
taking it out again and running a Hitachi utility software to adjust the 
acoustic management and power settings. I've been using it happily ever 
since.

> Anyone managed to extract programs from the Hard Drive to their PC?

I did this from the old drive when I replaced it, but it's not something I 
do routinely. Some people have gone as far as to install an IDE/USB adaptor 
or a drive caddy to facilitate the process. You need one of two freely 
downloadable programs to read the drive, the names of both of which escape 
me at the moment!
date: Fri, 4 May 2007 13:54:25 +0100   author:   Pyriform

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
I have a Humax 9200T   PVR 160 gig H/D twin tuners and in my opinion they 
are brilliant
nice remote control no clutter on it and  good build quality.
On Dixon's website this weekend end they are down £159.99
for the money you won't do better.


"SpAmTrAp ®"  wrote in message 
news:pJWdnUBKjNPD_67bnZ2dnUVZ8sSrnZ2d@bt.com...
> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
> with the unit.
>
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with 
> a different maker.
>
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>
>
date: Sat, 28 Apr 2007 11:17:26 +0100   author:   Nemo

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
SpAmTrAp ®  wrote:

> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems with
> the unit.
> 
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with a
> different maker.
> 
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.

Humax or Topfield. Both good, I have a Humax and don't know anything in
detail about the Topfield.
-- 
http://www.decohen.com
Send e-mail to the Reply-To address;
mail to the From address is never read
date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 12:54:29 +0100   author:   (Daniel Cohen)

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
SpAmTrAp ® wrote:
> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems with 
> the unit.
>
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with a 
> different maker.
>
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>
>
>   
I would recommend Inverto IDL7000 PVR (80Gb twin tuner)
Incredibly easy to use
You will pick one up on eBay  for about £80 - £100
I am selling my Humax PVR8000T as a result (£70 delivered if you're 
interested)
David
date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 23:00:12 GMT   author:   DCA

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
> with the unit.
>
> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with 
> a different maker.
>
> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.

I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD but so
far I've found that to be fine
They still have some left if you are prepared to phone them.
date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 10:44:24 +0100   author:   Tony

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
Tony wrote:

>> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
>> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
>> with the unit.
>>
>> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off with 
>> a different maker.
>>
>> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
> 
> I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
> Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD but so
> far I've found that to be fine

I'd second that, I'm very happy with mine (use it as a second PVR after 
the TiVo). Only bear in mind that the product is EOLed so it's unlikely 
to get a system update to include things like PlayBack functionality 
that the newer more expensive (Humax, Topfield) boxes will get.

> They still have some left if you are prepared to phone them.

Really? What number?

Geoff
date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:13:17 +0100   author:   Geoff Winkless

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
"Geoff Winkless"  wrote in message 
news:4635f97d$0$7366$4d4eb98e@read.news.uk.uu.net...
> Tony wrote:
>
>>> Looking to purchase a Freeview Recorder was thinking of a Daewoo DSD9520 
>>> 80GB until I looked at some of the owners reviews and all the problems 
>>> with the unit.
>>>
>>> Are these problems fixed (firmware updates etc. ?) or am I better off 
>>> with a different maker.
>>>
>>> Any advice or recommendations appreciated.
>>
>> I bought a Thompson DHD4000 from Argos for £49 a month ago.
>> Great machine for the money. Twin tuners, only let down by 40Gb HD but so
>> far I've found that to be fine
>
> I'd second that, I'm very happy with mine (use it as a second PVR after 
> the TiVo). Only bear in mind that the product is EOLed so it's unlikely to 
> get a system update to include things like PlayBack functionality that the 
> newer more expensive (Humax, Topfield) boxes will get.
>
>> They still have some left if you are prepared to phone them.
>
> Really? What number?

Customer services and give them the Argos catalogue number.
You then need to go to a local Argos store and find a friendly face and ask 
if they will do a store to store transfer.
Usually takes a few days as the goods have to go back to the central 
distribution depot and then to the store that you ordered from.
date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:02:59 +0100   author:   Tony

Re: Recommendations wanted for Freeview Hard Disk Recorder   
On Sun, 29 Apr 2007 Daniel Cohen wrote:

>Humax or Topfield. Both good, I have a Humax and don't know anything in
>detail about the Topfield.

For those who just want a plug 'n' play solution the Humax is great. I 
borrowed a friend's machine when I was researching Freeview PVRs and the 
user interface on the vanilla Humax is very clean and intuitive.

I'm a tweaker and twiddler though and the Humax hardware itself was 
lacking a few too many bells and whistles and upgrading options for my 
liking, so I went for the Topfield.

The only problem with the Topfield is that the default user interface is 
a bit ugly and cluttered. However installing the well-known MyStuff user 
interface replacement results in a superlative machine, very easy to use 
and with an interface that's both attractive and information-rich, a 
combination that's not easy to achieve.

The Topfield / MyStuff combination isn't quite as slick or powerful as 
TiVo but it's a damned close second and free to boot. And of course if 
you've never seen a TiVo you won't know what you're missing.

It certainly blows VirginMedia's