Anyone seen a freeview pvr yet that records series link like the supreme 
sky+ - or is it impossible?

On 22/04/2007 09:09, oash wrote:

> Anyone seen a freeview pvr yet that records series link like the supreme 
> sky+ - or is it impossible? 

http://www.pvruk.co.uk/freeview_playback.cfm

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 09:09:47 +0100, "oash"
 wrote:

>Anyone seen a freeview pvr yet that records series link like the supreme 
>sky+ - or is it impossible? 

Toppy with MyStuff or Jags TAP's. www.toppy.org.uk for details.
-- 
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Thanks Andy  - sorry didn't see this before my latest post.

"Andy Burns"  wrote in message 
news:462b1c52$0$8717$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
> On 22/04/2007 09:09, oash wrote:
>
>> Anyone seen a freeview pvr yet that records series link like the supreme 
>> sky+ - or is it impossible?
>
> http://www.pvruk.co.uk/freeview_playback.cfm

On 22/04/2007 14:04, oash wrote:

> Thanks Andy  - sorry didn't see this before my latest post.

I don't think any "Playback" products have been releaed yet, but the 
development version of mythtv can handle (some of) the series link 
functionality ...

Andy Burns  wrote:

> On 22/04/2007 09:09, oash wrote:
> 
> > Anyone seen a freeview pvr yet that records series link like the supreme
> > sky+ - or is it impossible? 
> 
> http://www.pvruk.co.uk/freeview_playback.cfm

I understand that series link won't be rolled out in the first phase of
freeview playback (this from discussion on several Humax forums).

The best of the current machines (Humax and Topfield) will almost
certainly have a software upgrade once everything is running (or maybe
before, so as to be available when it does come).

For the moment, both Humax and Topfield have the posibility of searching
for all programs with specified words in the title, and one can then
manually select these for recording. Not true series link but still
useful.
-- 
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Send e-mail to the Reply-To address;
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> For the moment, both Humax and Topfield have the posibility of searching
> for all programs with specified words in the title, and one can then
> manually select these for recording. Not true series link but still
> useful.



maybe more useful - sky+ links like to dissapear but my tivo never had that 
problem with keyword recordings.



-- 
Gareth.

That fly... is your magic wand.
http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/

Andy Burns wrote:

> On 22/04/2007 14:04, oash wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Andy  - sorry didn't see this before my latest post.
> 
> I don't think any "Playback" products have been releaed yet, but the
> development version of mythtv can handle (some of) the series link
> functionality ...

MythTV 0.20 which is the current release has the following record options:
 Don't record this program.
 Record only this showing.
 Record this program in this timeslot every day.
 Record this program in this timeslot every week.
 Find and record one showing of this title.
 Find and record one showing of this title each day.
 Find and record one showing of this title each week.
 Record at any time on channel
 Record at any time on any channel.

Bruce S.
-- 
Replace the by by blueyonder

oash wrote:

>the supreme 
>sky+ 

Some people are easily impressed.

-- 
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

On 23/04/2007 03:44, Bruce Stewart wrote:

> MythTV 0.20 which is the current release has the following record options:

[snip]

I know that, I've used mythtv for a couple of years :-)

But those options work purely on matching text of programme title, 
subtitle and description, the broadcasters apparently can't resist 
slightly re-wording these from one showing to the next (therefore you 
get duplicate recordings and the occasional missed recording too)

The development version which will become 0.21 already has the series 
link based on CRID which should improve the sitation, I /think/ only BBC 
muxes transmit this so far.

On 23 Apr, 08:48, Andy Burns  wrote:
> The development version which will become 0.21 already has the series
> link based on CRID which should improve the sitation, I /think/ only BBC
> muxes transmit this so far.

It's also been spotted on the C4 family, and on Sky 3.

Nigel.

just because you have to pay £10 pcm  you're agginnit Jomtien - admit its 
great!
I know the next thing you're gonna say...."Tivo"
but its no longer made?!

"Jomtien" <jomtien@the.beach> wrote in message 
news:12jo23tsh56s328trn9unquj61ticq30j2@4ax.com...
> oash wrote:
>
>>the supreme
>>sky+
>
> Some people are easily impressed.
>
> -- 
> Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
> The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
> UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
> BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
> ----
> Only the truth as I see it.
> No monies return'd. ;-)

oash wrote:

>>>the supreme
>>>sky+
>>
>> Some people are easily impressed.
>
>just because you have to pay £10 pcm  you're agginnit Jomtien - admit its 
>great!

It isn't bad but it certainly doesn't warrant the description
"supreme" or "great". It has a lot of faults and omissions. And at £10
per month it is grossly overpriced (indeed there is no reason why
there should be *any* charge per month).


>I know the next thing you're gonna say...."Tivo"
>but its no longer made?!

You can still subscribe to the Tivo service. And, above all, you can
do so for a one-off fee.

-- 
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

In message , oash 
 writes
>just because you have to pay £10 pcm  you're agginnit Jomtien - admit its
>great!
>I know the next thing you're gonna say...."Tivo"
>but its no longer made?!
>

If Sky+ is your only experience of a PVR, then it undoubtedly is great, 
being a TiVo owner, dual-recording aside, Sky+ is far from great :-)
-- 
Sean Black

Apart from the lack of subscription - what's so good about Tivo. Know a 
comparison page?

"Sean Black"  wrote in message 
news:BYsAiXEDtwLGFwac@bucks-aggs.demon.co.uk...
> In message , oash 
>  writes
>>just because you have to pay £10 pcm  you're agginnit Jomtien - admit its
>>great!
>>I know the next thing you're gonna say...."Tivo"
>>but its no longer made?!
>>
>
> If Sky+ is your only experience of a PVR, then it undoubtedly is great, 
> being a TiVo owner, dual-recording aside, Sky+ is far from great :-)
> -- 
> Sean Black

"oash"  wrote in message 
news:BbWdnTSWx6k_4rLbRVnyuwA@bt.com...
> Apart from the lack of subscription - what's so good about Tivo. Know a 
> comparison page?




the software basically.
i'm a sky+ user  - the superior picture quality and dual tuners make it a 
winner over the tivo but the tivo was truly fire and forget.
set a season pass and it would stay intact forever - if the series ended, 
and then started up again 2 years later it would remember.
you could upgrade it, network it to your pc for program extraction etc - 
great.
in the states you can get tivos with all the plus points of the sky+ 
hardware, but with the tivo user experience - it's a crying shame you cant 
over here.



-- 
Gareth.

That fly... is your magic wand.
http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/

"the dog from that film you saw"  wrote 
in message news:599ffcF2j4efcU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "oash"  wrote in message 
> news:BbWdnTSWx6k_4rLbRVnyuwA@bt.com...
>> Apart from the lack of subscription - what's so good about Tivo. Know a 
>> comparison page?
>
>
>
>
> the software basically.
> i'm a sky+ user  - the superior picture quality and dual tuners make it a 
> winner over the tivo but the tivo was truly fire and forget.
> set a season pass and it would stay intact forever - if the series ended, 
> and then started up again 2 years later it would remember.
> you could upgrade it, network it to your pc for program extraction etc - 
> great.
> in the states you can get tivos with all the plus points of the sky+ 
> hardware, but with the tivo user experience - it's a crying shame you cant 
> over here.
>
Thanks Gareth and Jomtien. It looks like For now I should stick with the 
£10pcm "sky +only" (although this is very galling as I am nearly free of Mr 
Murdoch!).
I'll move perhaps to a freeview based system when these have developed a 
decent series link facility and a good solid reputation. Apparently there 
are to be new PVR products with the freeview name in May 2008? In the 
meantime....shall I risk a Tivo (it records from the sky box?) from ebay I 
wonder.....hmmm.

Dave

In message , oash 
 writes
>
>"the dog from that film you saw"  wrote
>in message news:599ffcF2j4efcU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "oash"  wrote in message
>> news:BbWdnTSWx6k_4rLbRVnyuwA@bt.com...
>>> Apart from the lack of subscription - what's so good about Tivo. Know a
>>> comparison page?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> the software basically.
>> i'm a sky+ user  - the superior picture quality and dual tuners make it a
>> winner over the tivo but the tivo was truly fire and forget.
>> set a season pass and it would stay intact forever - if the series ended,
>> and then started up again 2 years later it would remember.
>> you could upgrade it, network it to your pc for program extraction etc -
>> great.
>> in the states you can get tivos with all the plus points of the sky+
>> hardware, but with the tivo user experience - it's a crying shame you cant
>> over here.
>>
>Thanks Gareth and Jomtien. It looks like For now I should stick with the
>£10pcm "sky +only" (although this is very galling as I am nearly free of Mr
>Murdoch!).
>I'll move perhaps to a freeview based system when these have developed a
>decent series link facility and a good solid reputation. Apparently there
>are to be new PVR products with the freeview name in May 2008? In the
>meantime....shall I risk a Tivo (it records from the sky box?) from ebay I
>wonder.....hmmm.
>
Yes, it will record form a Sky box.

Now I know it'd never happen, but if Sky would just license the TiVo 
software, add it to an HD box with a much bigger harddrive, that would 
truly be a match made in heaven :-)
-- 
Sean Black

On 22/04/2007 09:09, oash wrote:

> Anyone seen a freeview pvr yet that records series link like the supreme 
> sky+ - or is it impossible? 

http://www.pvruk.co.uk/freeview_playback.cfm

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 09:09:47 +0100, "oash"
 wrote:

>Anyone seen a freeview pvr yet that records series link like the supreme 
>sky+ - or is it impossible? 

Toppy with MyStuff or Jags TAP's. www.toppy.org.uk for details.
-- 
Andrew, contact via http://interpleb.googlepages.com
Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards,
please don't top post. Trim replies to quote only relevant text.
Check groups.google.com before asking an obvious question.

Thanks Andy  - sorry didn't see this before my latest post.

"Andy Burns"  wrote in message 
news:462b1c52$0$8717$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
> On 22/04/2007 09:09, oash wrote:
>
>> Anyone seen a freeview pvr yet that records series link like the supreme 
>> sky+ - or is it impossible?
>
> http://www.pvruk.co.uk/freeview_playback.cfm

On 22/04/2007 14:04, oash wrote:

> Thanks Andy  - sorry didn't see this before my latest post.

I don't think any "Playback" products have been releaed yet, but the 
development version of mythtv can handle (some of) the series link 
functionality ...

Andy Burns  wrote:

> On 22/04/2007 09:09, oash wrote:
> 
> > Anyone seen a freeview pvr yet that records series link like the supreme
> > sky+ - or is it impossible? 
> 
> http://www.pvruk.co.uk/freeview_playback.cfm

I understand that series link won't be rolled out in the first phase of
freeview playback (this from discussion on several Humax forums).

The best of the current machines (Humax and Topfield) will almost
certainly have a software upgrade once everything is running (or maybe
before, so as to be available when it does come).

For the moment, both Humax and Topfield have the posibility of searching
for all programs with specified words in the title, and one can then
manually select these for recording. Not true series link but still
useful.
-- 
http://www.decohen.com
Send e-mail to the Reply-To address;
mail to the From address is never read

"Daniel Cohen"  wrote in message 
news:1hwz2qd.1g7t2ly14nk92bN%danspam@f2s.com...


> For the moment, both Humax and Topfield have the posibility of searching
> for all programs with specified words in the title, and one can then
> manually select these for recording. Not true series link but still
> useful.



maybe more useful - sky+ links like to dissapear but my tivo never had that 
problem with keyword recordings.



-- 
Gareth.

That fly... is your magic wand.
http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/

Andy Burns wrote:

> On 22/04/2007 14:04, oash wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Andy  - sorry didn't see this before my latest post.
> 
> I don't think any "Playback" products have been releaed yet, but the
> development version of mythtv can handle (some of) the series link
> functionality ...

MythTV 0.20 which is the current release has the following record options:
 Don't record this program.
 Record only this showing.
 Record this program in this timeslot every day.
 Record this program in this timeslot every week.
 Find and record one showing of this title.
 Find and record one showing of this title each day.
 Find and record one showing of this title each week.
 Record at any time on channel
 Record at any time on any channel.

Bruce S.
-- 
Replace the by by blueyonder

oash wrote:

>the supreme 
>sky+ 

Some people are easily impressed.

-- 
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

On 23/04/2007 03:44, Bruce Stewart wrote:

> MythTV 0.20 which is the current release has the following record options:

[snip]

I know that, I've used mythtv for a couple of years :-)

But those options work purely on matching text of programme title, 
subtitle and description, the broadcasters apparently can't resist 
slightly re-wording these from one showing to the next (therefore you 
get duplicate recordings and the occasional missed recording too)

The development version which will become 0.21 already has the series 
link based on CRID which should improve the sitation, I /think/ only BBC 
muxes transmit this so far.

On 23 Apr, 08:48, Andy Burns  wrote:
> The development version which will become 0.21 already has the series
> link based on CRID which should improve the sitation, I /think/ only BBC
> muxes transmit this so far.

It's also been spotted on the C4 family, and on Sky 3.

Nigel.

just because you have to pay £10 pcm  you're agginnit Jomtien - admit its 
great!
I know the next thing you're gonna say...."Tivo"
but its no longer made?!

"Jomtien" <jomtien@the.beach> wrote in message 
news:12jo23tsh56s328trn9unquj61ticq30j2@4ax.com...
> oash wrote:
>
>>the supreme
>>sky+
>
> Some people are easily impressed.
>
> -- 
> Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
> The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
> UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
> BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
> ----
> Only the truth as I see it.
> No monies return'd. ;-)

oash wrote:

>>>the supreme
>>>sky+
>>
>> Some people are easily impressed.
>
>just because you have to pay £10 pcm  you're agginnit Jomtien - admit its 
>great!

It isn't bad but it certainly doesn't warrant the description
"supreme" or "great". It has a lot of faults and omissions. And at £10
per month it is grossly overpriced (indeed there is no reason why
there should be *any* charge per month).


>I know the next thing you're gonna say...."Tivo"
>but its no longer made?!

You can still subscribe to the Tivo service. And, above all, you can
do so for a one-off fee.

-- 
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

In message , oash 
 writes
>just because you have to pay £10 pcm  you're agginnit Jomtien - admit its
>great!
>I know the next thing you're gonna say...."Tivo"
>but its no longer made?!
>

If Sky+ is your only experience of a PVR, then it undoubtedly is great, 
being a TiVo owner, dual-recording aside, Sky+ is far from great :-)
-- 
Sean Black

Apart from the lack of subscription - what's so good about Tivo. Know a 
comparison page?

"Sean Black"  wrote in message 
news:BYsAiXEDtwLGFwac@bucks-aggs.demon.co.uk...
> In message , oash 
>  writes
>>just because you have to pay £10 pcm  you're agginnit Jomtien - admit its
>>great!
>>I know the next thing you're gonna say...."Tivo"
>>but its no longer made?!
>>
>
> If Sky+ is your only experience of a PVR, then it undoubtedly is great, 
> being a TiVo owner, dual-recording aside, Sky+ is far from great :-)
> -- 
> Sean Black

"oash"  wrote in message 
news:BbWdnTSWx6k_4rLbRVnyuwA@bt.com...
> Apart from the lack of subscription - what's so good about Tivo. Know a 
> comparison page?




the software basically.
i'm a sky+ user  - the superior picture quality and dual tuners make it a 
winner over the tivo but the tivo was truly fire and forget.
set a season pass and it would stay intact forever - if the series ended, 
and then started up again 2 years later it would remember.
you could upgrade it, network it to your pc for program extraction etc - 
great.
in the states you can get tivos with all the plus points of the sky+ 
hardware, but with the tivo user experience - it's a crying shame you cant 
over here.



-- 
Gareth.

That fly... is your magic wand.
http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/

"the dog from that film you saw"  wrote 
in message news:599ffcF2j4efcU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "oash"  wrote in message 
> news:BbWdnTSWx6k_4rLbRVnyuwA@bt.com...
>> Apart from the lack of subscription - what's so good about Tivo. Know a 
>> comparison page?
>
>
>
>
> the software basically.
> i'm a sky+ user  - the superior picture quality and dual tuners make it a 
> winner over the tivo but the tivo was truly fire and forget.
> set a season pass and it would stay intact forever - if the series ended, 
> and then started up again 2 years later it would remember.
> you could upgrade it, network it to your pc for program extraction etc - 
> great.
> in the states you can get tivos with all the plus points of the sky+ 
> hardware, but with the tivo user experience - it's a crying shame you cant 
> over here.
>
Thanks Gareth and Jomtien. It looks like For now I should stick with the 
£10pcm "sky +only" (although this is very galling as I am nearly free of Mr 
Murdoch!).
I'll move perhaps to a freeview based system when these have developed a 
decent series link facility and a good solid reputation. Apparently there 
are to be new PVR products with the freeview name in May 2008? In the 
meantime....shall I risk a Tivo (it records from the sky box?) from ebay I 
wonder.....hmmm.

Dave

In message , oash 
 writes
>
>"the dog from that film you saw"  wrote
>in message news:599ffcF2j4efcU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "oash"  wrote in message
>> news:BbWdnTSWx6k_4rLbRVnyuwA@bt.com...
>>> Apart from the lack of subscription - what's so good about Tivo. Know a
>>> comparison page?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> the software basically.
>> i'm a sky+ user  - the superior picture quality and dual tuners make it a
>> winner over the tivo but the tivo was truly fire and forget.
>> set a season pass and it would stay intact forever - if the series ended,
>> and then started up again 2 years later it would remember.
>> you could upgrade it, network it to your pc for program extraction etc -
>> great.
>> in the states you can get tivos with all the plus points of the sky+
>> hardware, but with the tivo user experience - it's a crying shame you cant
>> over here.
>>
>Thanks Gareth and Jomtien. It looks like For now I should stick with the
>£10pcm "sky +only" (although this is very galling as I am nearly free of Mr
>Murdoch!).
>I'll move perhaps to a freeview based system when these have developed a
>decent series link facility and a good solid reputation. Apparently there
>are to be new PVR products with the freeview name in May 2008? In the
>meantime....shall I risk a Tivo (it records from the sky box?) from ebay I
>wonder.....hmmm.
>
Yes, it will record form a Sky box.

Now I know it'd never happen, but if Sky would just license the TiVo 
software, add it to an HD box with a much bigger harddrive, that would 
truly be a match made in heaven :-)
-- 
Sean Black

On 22/04/2007 09:09, oash wrote:

> Anyone seen a freeview pvr yet that records series link like the supreme 
> sky+ - or is it impossible? 

http://www.pvruk.co.uk/freeview_playback.cfm

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 09:09:47 +0100, "oash"
 wrote:

>Anyone seen a freeview pvr yet that records series link like the supreme 
>sky+ - or is it impossible? 

Toppy with MyStuff or Jags TAP's. www.toppy.org.uk for details.
-- 
Andrew, contact via http://interpleb.googlepages.com
Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards,
please don't top post. Trim replies to quote only relevant text.
Check groups.google.com before asking an obvious question.

Thanks Andy  - sorry didn't see this before my latest post.

"Andy Burns"  wrote in message 
news:462b1c52$0$8717$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
> On 22/04/2007 09:09, oash wrote:
>
>> Anyone seen a freeview pvr yet that records series link like the supreme 
>> sky+ - or is it impossible?
>
> http://www.pvruk.co.uk/freeview_playback.cfm

On 22/04/2007 14:04, oash wrote:

> Thanks Andy  - sorry didn't see this before my latest post.

I don't think any "Playback" products have been releaed yet, but the 
development version of mythtv can handle (some of) the series link 
functionality ...

Andy Burns  wrote:

> On 22/04/2007 09:09, oash wrote:
> 
> > Anyone seen a freeview pvr yet that records series link like the supreme
> > sky+ - or is it impossible? 
> 
> http://www.pvruk.co.uk/freeview_playback.cfm

I understand that series link won't be rolled out in the first phase of
freeview playback (this from discussion on several Humax forums).

The best of the current machines (Humax and Topfield) will almost
certainly have a software upgrade once everything is running (or maybe
before, so as to be available when it does come).

For the moment, both Humax and Topfield have the posibility of searching
for all programs with specified words in the title, and one can then
manually select these for recording. Not true series link but still
useful.
-- 
http://www.decohen.com
Send e-mail to the Reply-To address;
mail to the From address is never read

"Daniel Cohen"  wrote in message 
news:1hwz2qd.1g7t2ly14nk92bN%danspam@f2s.com...


> For the moment, both Humax and Topfield have the posibility of searching
> for all programs with specified words in the title, and one can then
> manually select these for recording. Not true series link but still
> useful.



maybe more useful - sky+ links like to dissapear but my tivo never had that 
problem with keyword recordings.



-- 
Gareth.

That fly... is your magic wand.
http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/

Andy Burns wrote:

> On 22/04/2007 14:04, oash wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Andy  - sorry didn't see this before my latest post.
> 
> I don't think any "Playback" products have been releaed yet, but the
> development version of mythtv can handle (some of) the series link
> functionality ...

MythTV 0.20 which is the current release has the following record options:
 Don't record this program.
 Record only this showing.
 Record this program in this timeslot every day.
 Record this program in this timeslot every week.
 Find and record one showing of this title.
 Find and record one showing of this title each day.
 Find and record one showing of this title each week.
 Record at any time on channel
 Record at any time on any channel.

Bruce S.
-- 
Replace the by by blueyonder

oash wrote:

>the supreme 
>sky+ 

Some people are easily impressed.

-- 
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

On 23/04/2007 03:44, Bruce Stewart wrote:

> MythTV 0.20 which is the current release has the following record options:

[snip]

I know that, I've used mythtv for a couple of years :-)

But those options work purely on matching text of programme title, 
subtitle and description, the broadcasters apparently can't resist 
slightly re-wording these from one showing to the next (therefore you 
get duplicate recordings and the occasional missed recording too)

The development version which will become 0.21 already has the series 
link based on CRID which should improve the sitation, I /think/ only BBC 
muxes transmit this so far.

On 23 Apr, 08:48, Andy Burns  wrote:
> The development version which will become 0.21 already has the series
> link based on CRID which should improve the sitation, I /think/ only BBC
> muxes transmit this so far.

It's also been spotted on the C4 family, and on Sky 3.

Nigel.

just because you have to pay £10 pcm  you're agginnit Jomtien - admit its 
great!
I know the next thing you're gonna say...."Tivo"
but its no longer made?!

"Jomtien" <jomtien@the.beach> wrote in message 
news:12jo23tsh56s328trn9unquj61ticq30j2@4ax.com...
> oash wrote:
>
>>the supreme
>>sky+
>
> Some people are easily impressed.
>
> -- 
> Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
> The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
> UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
> BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
> ----
> Only the truth as I see it.
> No monies return'd. ;-)

oash wrote:

>>>the supreme
>>>sky+
>>
>> Some people are easily impressed.
>
>just because you have to pay £10 pcm  you're agginnit Jomtien - admit its 
>great!

It isn't bad but it certainly doesn't warrant the description
"supreme" or "great". It has a lot of faults and omissions. And at £10
per month it is grossly overpriced (indeed there is no reason why
there should be *any* charge per month).


>I know the next thing you're gonna say...."Tivo"
>but its no longer made?!

You can still subscribe to the Tivo service. And, above all, you can
do so for a one-off fee.

-- 
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

In message , oash 
 writes
>just because you have to pay £10 pcm  you're agginnit Jomtien - admit its
>great!
>I know the next thing you're gonna say...."Tivo"
>but its no longer made?!
>

If Sky+ is your only experience of a PVR, then it undoubtedly is great, 
being a TiVo owner, dual-recording aside, Sky+ is far from great :-)
-- 
Sean Black

Apart from the lack of subscription - what's so good about Tivo. Know a 
comparison page?

"Sean Black"  wrote in message 
news:BYsAiXEDtwLGFwac@bucks-aggs.demon.co.uk...
> In message , oash 
>  writes
>>just because you have to pay £10 pcm  you're agginnit Jomtien - admit its
>>great!
>>I know the next thing you're gonna say...."Tivo"
>>but its no longer made?!
>>
>
> If Sky+ is your only experience of a PVR, then it undoubtedly is great, 
> being a TiVo owner, dual-recording aside, Sky+ is far from great :-)
> -- 
> Sean Black

"oash"  wrote in message 
news:BbWdnTSWx6k_4rLbRVnyuwA@bt.com...
> Apart from the lack of subscription - what's so good about Tivo. Know a 
> comparison page?




the software basically.
i'm a sky+ user  - the superior picture quality and dual tuners make it a 
winner over the tivo but the tivo was truly fire and forget.
set a season pass and it would stay intact forever - if the series ended, 
and then started up again 2 years later it would remember.
you could upgrade it, network it to your pc for program extraction etc - 
great.
in the states you can get tivos with all the plus points of the sky+ 
hardware, but with the tivo user experience - it's a crying shame you cant 
over here.



-- 
Gareth.

That fly... is your magic wand.
http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/

"the dog from that film you saw"  wrote 
in message news:599ffcF2j4efcU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "oash"  wrote in message 
> news:BbWdnTSWx6k_4rLbRVnyuwA@bt.com...
>> Apart from the lack of subscription - what's so good about Tivo. Know a 
>> comparison page?
>
>
>
>
> the software basically.
> i'm a sky+ user  - the superior picture quality and dual tuners make it a 
> winner over the tivo but the tivo was truly fire and forget.
> set a season pass and it would stay intact forever - if the series ended, 
> and then started up again 2 years later it would remember.
> you could upgrade it, network it to your pc for program extraction etc - 
> great.
> in the states you can get tivos with all the plus points of the sky+ 
> hardware, but with the tivo user experience - it's a crying shame you cant 
> over here.
>
Thanks Gareth and Jomtien. It looks like For now I should stick with the 
£10pcm "sky +only" (although this is very galling as I am nearly free of Mr 
Murdoch!).
I'll move perhaps to a freeview based system when these have developed a 
decent series link facility and a good solid reputation. Apparently there 
are to be new PVR products with the freeview name in May 2008? In the 
meantime....shall I risk a Tivo (it records from the sky box?) from ebay I 
wonder.....hmmm.

Dave

In message , oash 
 writes
>
>"the dog from that film you saw"  wrote
>in message news:599ffcF2j4efcU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "oash"  wrote in message
>> news:BbWdnTSWx6k_4rLbRVnyuwA@bt.com...
>>> Apart from the lack of subscription - what's so good about Tivo. Know a
>>> comparison page?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> the software basically.
>> i'm a sky+ user  - the superior picture quality and dual tuners make it a
>> winner over the tivo but the tivo was truly fire and forget.
>> set a season pass and it would stay intact forever - if the series ended,
>> and then started up again 2 years later it would remember.
>> you could upgrade it, network it to your pc for program extraction etc -
>> great.
>> in the states you can get tivos with all the plus points of the sky+
>> hardware, but with the tivo user experience - it's a crying shame you cant
>> over here.
>>
>Thanks Gareth and Jomtien. It looks like For now I should stick with the
>£10pcm "sky +only" (although this is very galling as I am nearly free of Mr
>Murdoch!).
>I'll move perhaps to a freeview based system when these have developed a
>decent series link facility and a good solid reputation. Apparently there
>are to be new PVR products with the freeview name in May 2008? In the
>meantime....shall I risk a Tivo (it records from the sky box?) from ebay I
>wonder.....hmmm.
>
Yes, it will record form a Sky box.

Now I know it'd never happen, but if Sky would just license the TiVo 
software, add it to an HD box with a much bigger harddrive, that would 
truly be a match made in heaven :-)
-- 
Sean Black

oash wrote:
> Apparently there are to be new PVR products with the freeview name in
> May 2008?

I thought it was this May, not next...

Freeview Playback, IIRC.

On 22/04/2007 09:09, oash wrote:

> Anyone seen a freeview pvr yet that records series link like the supreme 
> sky+ - or is it impossible? 

http://www.pvruk.co.uk/freeview_playback.cfm

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 09:09:47 +0100, "oash"
 wrote:

>Anyone seen a freeview pvr yet that records series link like the supreme 
>sky+ - or is it impossible? 

Toppy with MyStuff or Jags TAP's. www.toppy.org.uk for details.
-- 
Andrew, contact via http://interpleb.googlepages.com
Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards,
please don't top post. Trim replies to quote only relevant text.
Check groups.google.com before asking an obvious question.

Thanks Andy  - sorry didn't see this before my latest post.

"Andy Burns"  wrote in message 
news:462b1c52$0$8717$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
> On 22/04/2007 09:09, oash wrote:
>
>> Anyone seen a freeview pvr yet that records series link like the supreme 
>> sky+ - or is it impossible?
>
> http://www.pvruk.co.uk/freeview_playback.cfm

On 22/04/2007 14:04, oash wrote:

> Thanks Andy  - sorry didn't see this before my latest post.

I don't think any "Playback" products have been releaed yet, but the 
development version of mythtv can handle (some of) the series link 
functionality ...

Andy Burns  wrote:

> On 22/04/2007 09:09, oash wrote:
> 
> > Anyone seen a freeview pvr yet that records series link like the supreme
> > sky+ - or is it impossible? 
> 
> http://www.pvruk.co.uk/freeview_playback.cfm

I understand that series link won't be rolled out in the first phase of
freeview playback (this from discussion on several Humax forums).

The best of the current machines (Humax and Topfield) will almost
certainly have a software upgrade once everything is running (or maybe
before, so as to be available when it does come).

For the moment, both Humax and Topfield have the posibility of searching
for all programs with specified words in the title, and one can then
manually select these for recording. Not true series link but still
useful.
-- 
http://www.decohen.com
Send e-mail to the Reply-To address;
mail to the From address is never read

"Daniel Cohen"  wrote in message 
news:1hwz2qd.1g7t2ly14nk92bN%danspam@f2s.com...


> For the moment, both Humax and Topfield have the posibility of searching
> for all programs with specified words in the title, and one can then
> manually select these for recording. Not true series link but still
> useful.



maybe more useful - sky+ links like to dissapear but my tivo never had that 
problem with keyword recordings.



-- 
Gareth.

That fly... is your magic wand.
http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/

Andy Burns wrote:

> On 22/04/2007 14:04, oash wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Andy  - sorry didn't see this before my latest post.
> 
> I don't think any "Playback" products have been releaed yet, but the
> development version of mythtv can handle (some of) the series link
> functionality ...

MythTV 0.20 which is the current release has the following record options:
 Don't record this program.
 Record only this showing.
 Record this program in this timeslot every day.
 Record this program in this timeslot every week.
 Find and record one showing of this title.
 Find and record one showing of this title each day.
 Find and record one showing of this title each week.
 Record at any time on channel
 Record at any time on any channel.

Bruce S.
-- 
Replace the by by blueyonder

oash wrote:

>the supreme 
>sky+ 

Some people are easily impressed.

-- 
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

On 23/04/2007 03:44, Bruce Stewart wrote:

> MythTV 0.20 which is the current release has the following record options:

[snip]

I know that, I've used mythtv for a couple of years :-)

But those options work purely on matching text of programme title, 
subtitle and description, the broadcasters apparently can't resist 
slightly re-wording these from one showing to the next (therefore you 
get duplicate recordings and the occasional missed recording too)

The development version which will become 0.21 already has the series 
link based on CRID which should improve the sitation, I /think/ only BBC 
muxes transmit this so far.

On 23 Apr, 08:48, Andy Burns  wrote:
> The development version which will become 0.21 already has the series
> link based on CRID which should improve the sitation, I /think/ only BBC
> muxes transmit this so far.

It's also been spotted on the C4 family, and on Sky 3.

Nigel.

just because you have to pay £10 pcm  you're agginnit Jomtien - admit its 
great!
I know the next thing you're gonna say...."Tivo"
but its no longer made?!

"Jomtien" <jomtien@the.beach> wrote in message 
news:12jo23tsh56s328trn9unquj61ticq30j2@4ax.com...
> oash wrote:
>
>>the supreme
>>sky+
>
> Some people are easily impressed.
>
> -- 
> Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
> The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
> UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
> BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
> ----
> Only the truth as I see it.
> No monies return'd. ;-)

oash wrote:

>>>the supreme
>>>sky+
>>
>> Some people are easily impressed.
>
>just because you have to pay £10 pcm  you're agginnit Jomtien - admit its 
>great!

It isn't bad but it certainly doesn't warrant the description
"supreme" or "great". It has a lot of faults and omissions. And at £10
per month it is grossly overpriced (indeed there is no reason why
there should be *any* charge per month).


>I know the next thing you're gonna say...."Tivo"
>but its no longer made?!

You can still subscribe to the Tivo service. And, above all, you can
do so for a one-off fee.

-- 
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

In message , oash 
 writes
>just because you have to pay £10 pcm  you're agginnit Jomtien - admit its
>great!
>I know the next thing you're gonna say...."Tivo"
>but its no longer made?!
>

If Sky+ is your only experience of a PVR, then it undoubtedly is great, 
being a TiVo owner, dual-recording aside, Sky+ is far from great :-)
-- 
Sean Black

Apart from the lack of subscription - what's so good about Tivo. Know a 
comparison page?

"Sean Black"  wrote in message 
news:BYsAiXEDtwLGFwac@bucks-aggs.demon.co.uk...
> In message , oash 
>  writes
>>just because you have to pay £10 pcm  you're agginnit Jomtien - admit its
>>great!
>>I know the next thing you're gonna say...."Tivo"
>>but its no longer made?!
>>
>
> If Sky+ is your only experience of a PVR, then it undoubtedly is great, 
> being a TiVo owner, dual-recording aside, Sky+ is far from great :-)
> -- 
> Sean Black

"oash"  wrote in message 
news:BbWdnTSWx6k_4rLbRVnyuwA@bt.com...
> Apart from the lack of subscription - what's so good about Tivo. Know a 
> comparison page?




the software basically.
i'm a sky+ user  - the superior picture quality and dual tuners make it a 
winner over the tivo but the tivo was truly fire and forget.
set a season pass and it would stay intact forever - if the series ended, 
and then started up again 2 years later it would remember.
you could upgrade it, network it to your pc for program extraction etc - 
great.
in the states you can get tivos with all the plus points of the sky+ 
hardware, but with the tivo user experience - it's a crying shame you cant 
over here.



-- 
Gareth.

That fly... is your magic wand.
http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/

"the dog from that film you saw"  wrote 
in message news:599ffcF2j4efcU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "oash"  wrote in message 
> news:BbWdnTSWx6k_4rLbRVnyuwA@bt.com...
>> Apart from the lack of subscription - what's so good about Tivo. Know a 
>> comparison page?
>
>
>
>
> the software basically.
> i'm a sky+ user  - the superior picture quality and dual tuners make it a 
> winner over the tivo but the tivo was truly fire and forget.
> set a season pass and it would stay intact forever - if the series ended, 
> and then started up again 2 years later it would remember.
> you could upgrade it, network it to your pc for program extraction etc - 
> great.
> in the states you can get tivos with all the plus points of the sky+ 
> hardware, but with the tivo user experience - it's a crying shame you cant 
> over here.
>
Thanks Gareth and Jomtien. It looks like For now I should stick with the 
£10pcm "sky +only" (although this is very galling as I am nearly free of Mr 
Murdoch!).
I'll move perhaps to a freeview based system when these have developed a 
decent series link facility and a good solid reputation. Apparently there 
are to be new PVR products with the freeview name in May 2008? In the 
meantime....shall I risk a Tivo (it records from the sky box?) from ebay I 
wonder.....hmmm.

Dave

In message , oash 
 writes
>
>"the dog from that film you saw"  wrote
>in message news:599ffcF2j4efcU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "oash"  wrote in message
>> news:BbWdnTSWx6k_4rLbRVnyuwA@bt.com...
>>> Apart from the lack of subscription - what's so good about Tivo. Know a
>>> comparison page?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> the software basically.
>> i'm a sky+ user  - the superior picture quality and dual tuners make it a
>> winner over the tivo but the tivo was truly fire and forget.
>> set a season pass and it would stay intact forever - if the series ended,
>> and then started up again 2 years later it would remember.
>> you could upgrade it, network it to your pc for program extraction etc -
>> great.
>> in the states you can get tivos with all the plus points of the sky+
>> hardware, but with the tivo user experience - it's a crying shame you cant
>> over here.
>>
>Thanks Gareth and Jomtien. It looks like For now I should stick with the
>£10pcm "sky +only" (although this is very galling as I am nearly free of Mr
>Murdoch!).
>I'll move perhaps to a freeview based system when these have developed a
>decent series link facility and a good solid reputation. Apparently there
>are to be new PVR products with the freeview name in May 2008? In the
>meantime....shall I risk a Tivo (it records from the sky box?) from ebay I
>wonder.....hmmm.
>
Yes, it will record form a Sky box.

Now I know it'd never happen, but if Sky would just license the TiVo 
software, add it to an HD box with a much bigger harddrive, that would 
truly be a match made in heaven :-)
-- 
Sean Black

oash wrote:
> Apparently there are to be new PVR products with the freeview name in
> May 2008?

I thought it was this May, not next...

Freeview Playback, IIRC.

"Pyriform"  wrote in message 
news:-5OdnVrJV8YoaKnbRVnyjAA@pipex.net...
> oash wrote:
>> Apparently there are to be new PVR products with the freeview name in
>> May 2008?
>
> I thought it was this May, not next...
>
> Freeview Playback, IIRC.
Yes 2007. sorry my typo

On 22/04/2007 09:09, oash wrote:

> Anyone seen a freeview pvr yet that records series link like the supreme 
> sky+ - or is it impossible? 

http://www.pvruk.co.uk/freeview_playback.cfm

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 09:09:47 +0100, "oash"
 wrote:

>Anyone seen a freeview pvr yet that records series link like the supreme 
>sky+ - or is it impossible? 

Toppy with MyStuff or Jags TAP's. www.toppy.org.uk for details.
-- 
Andrew, contact via http://interpleb.googlepages.com
Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards,
please don't top post. Trim replies to quote only relevant text.
Check groups.google.com before asking an obvious question.

Thanks Andy  - sorry didn't see this before my latest post.

"Andy Burns"  wrote in message 
news:462b1c52$0$8717$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
> On 22/04/2007 09:09, oash wrote:
>
>> Anyone seen a freeview pvr yet that records series link like the supreme 
>> sky+ - or is it impossible?
>
> http://www.pvruk.co.uk/freeview_playback.cfm

On 22/04/2007 14:04, oash wrote:

> Thanks Andy  - sorry didn't see this before my latest post.

I don't think any "Playback" products have been releaed yet, but the 
development version of mythtv can handle (some of) the series link 
functionality ...

Andy Burns  wrote:

> On 22/04/2007 09:09, oash wrote:
> 
> > Anyone seen a freeview pvr yet that records series link like the supreme
> > sky+ - or is it impossible? 
> 
> http://www.pvruk.co.uk/freeview_playback.cfm

I understand that series link won't be rolled out in the first phase of
freeview playback (this from discussion on several Humax forums).

The best of the current machines (Humax and Topfield) will almost
certainly have a software upgrade once everything is running (or maybe
before, so as to be available when it does come).

For the moment, both Humax and Topfield have the posibility of searching
for all programs with specified words in the title, and one can then
manually select these for recording. Not true series link but still
useful.
-- 
http://www.decohen.com
Send e-mail to the Reply-To address;
mail to the From address is never read

"Daniel Cohen"  wrote in message 
news:1hwz2qd.1g7t2ly14nk92bN%danspam@f2s.com...


> For the moment, both Humax and Topfield have the posibility of searching
> for all programs with specified words in the title, and one can then
> manually select these for recording. Not true series link but still
> useful.



maybe more useful - sky+ links like to dissapear but my tivo never had that 
problem with keyword recordings.



-- 
Gareth.

That fly... is your magic wand.
http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/

Andy Burns wrote:

> On 22/04/2007 14:04, oash wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Andy  - sorry didn't see this before my latest post.
> 
> I don't think any "Playback" products have been releaed yet, but the
> development version of mythtv can handle (some of) the series link
> functionality ...

MythTV 0.20 which is the current release has the following record options:
 Don't record this program.
 Record only this showing.
 Record this program in this timeslot every day.
 Record this program in this timeslot every week.
 Find and record one showing of this title.
 Find and record one showing of this title each day.
 Find and record one showing of this title each week.
 Record at any time on channel
 Record at any time on any channel.

Bruce S.
-- 
Replace the by by blueyonder

oash wrote:

>the supreme 
>sky+ 

Some people are easily impressed.

-- 
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

On 23/04/2007 03:44, Bruce Stewart wrote:

> MythTV 0.20 which is the current release has the following record options:

[snip]

I know that, I've used mythtv for a couple of years :-)

But those options work purely on matching text of programme title, 
subtitle and description, the broadcasters apparently can't resist 
slightly re-wording these from one showing to the next (therefore you 
get duplicate recordings and the occasional missed recording too)

The development version which will become 0.21 already has the series 
link based on CRID which should improve the sitation, I /think/ only BBC 
muxes transmit this so far.

On 23 Apr, 08:48, Andy Burns  wrote:
> The development version which will become 0.21 already has the series
> link based on CRID which should improve the sitation, I /think/ only BBC
> muxes transmit this so far.

It's also been spotted on the C4 family, and on Sky 3.

Nigel.

just because you have to pay £10 pcm  you're agginnit Jomtien - admit its 
great!
I know the next thing you're gonna say...."Tivo"
but its no longer made?!

"Jomtien" <jomtien@the.beach> wrote in message 
news:12jo23tsh56s328trn9unquj61ticq30j2@4ax.com...
> oash wrote:
>
>>the supreme
>>sky+
>
> Some people are easily impressed.
>
> -- 
> Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
> The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
> UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
> BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
> ----
> Only the truth as I see it.
> No monies return'd. ;-)

oash wrote:

>>>the supreme
>>>sky+
>>
>> Some people are easily impressed.
>
>just because you have to pay £10 pcm  you're agginnit Jomtien - admit its 
>great!

It isn't bad but it certainly doesn't warrant the description
"supreme" or "great". It has a lot of faults and omissions. And at £10
per month it is grossly overpriced (indeed there is no reason why
there should be *any* charge per month).


>I know the next thing you're gonna say...."Tivo"
>but its no longer made?!

You can still subscribe to the Tivo service. And, above all, you can
do so for a one-off fee.

-- 
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

In message , oash 
 writes
>just because you have to pay £10 pcm  you're agginnit Jomtien - admit its
>great!
>I know the next thing you're gonna say...."Tivo"
>but its no longer made?!
>

If Sky+ is your only experience of a PVR, then it undoubtedly is great, 
being a TiVo owner, dual-recording aside, Sky+ is far from great :-)
-- 
Sean Black

Apart from the lack of subscription - what's so good about Tivo. Know a 
comparison page?

"Sean Black"  wrote in message 
news:BYsAiXEDtwLGFwac@bucks-aggs.demon.co.uk...
> In message , oash 
>  writes
>>just because you have to pay £10 pcm  you're agginnit Jomtien - admit its
>>great!
>>I know the next thing you're gonna say...."Tivo"
>>but its no longer made?!
>>
>
> If Sky+ is your only experience of a PVR, then it undoubtedly is great, 
> being a TiVo owner, dual-recording aside, Sky+ is far from great :-)
> -- 
> Sean Black

"oash"  wrote in message 
news:BbWdnTSWx6k_4rLbRVnyuwA@bt.com...
> Apart from the lack of subscription - what's so good about Tivo. Know a 
> comparison page?




the software basically.
i'm a sky+ user  - the superior picture quality and dual tuners make it a 
winner over the tivo but the tivo was truly fire and forget.
set a season pass and it would stay intact forever - if the series ended, 
and then started up again 2 years later it would remember.
you could upgrade it, network it to your pc for program extraction etc - 
great.
in the states you can get tivos with all the plus points of the sky+ 
hardware, but with the tivo user experience - it's a crying shame you cant 
over here.



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"the dog from that film you saw"  wrote 
in message news:599ffcF2j4efcU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "oash"  wrote in message 
> news:BbWdnTSWx6k_4rLbRVnyuwA@bt.com...
>> Apart from the lack of subscription - what's so good about Tivo. Know a 
>> comparison page?
>
>
>
>
> the software basically.
> i'm a sky+ user  - the superior picture quality and dual tuners make it a 
> winner over the tivo but the tivo was truly fire and forget.
> set a season pass and it would stay intact forever - if the series ended, 
> and then started up again 2 years later it would remember.
> you could upgrade it, network it to your pc for program extraction etc - 
> great.
> in the states you can get tivos with all the plus points of the sky+ 
> hardware, but with the tivo user experience - it's a crying shame you cant 
> over here.
>
Thanks Gareth and Jomtien. It looks like For now I should stick with the 
£10pcm "sky +only" (although this is very galling as I am nearly free of Mr 
Murdoch!).
I'll move perhaps to a freeview based system when these have developed a 
decent series link facility and a good solid reputation. Apparently there 
are to be new PVR products with the freeview name in May 2008? In the 
meantime....shall I risk a Tivo (it records from the sky box?) from ebay I 
wonder.....hmmm.

Dave

In message , oash 
 writes
>
>"the dog from that film you saw"  wrote
>in message news:599ffcF2j4efcU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "oash"  wrote in message
>> news:BbWdnTSWx6k_4rLbRVnyuwA@bt.com...
>>> Apart from the lack of subscription - what's so good about Tivo. Know a
>>> comparison page?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> the software basically.
>> i'm a sky+ user  - the superior picture quality and dual tuners make it a
>> winner over the tivo but the tivo was truly fire and forget.
>> set a season pass and it would stay intact forever - if the series ended,
>> and then started up again 2 years later it would remember.
>> you could upgrade it, network it to your pc for program extraction etc -
>> great.
>> in the states you can get tivos with all the plus points of the sky+
>> hardware, but with the tivo user experience - it's a crying shame you cant
>> over here.
>>
>Thanks Gareth and Jomtien. It looks like For now I should stick with the
>£10pcm "sky +only" (although this is very galling as I am nearly free of Mr
>Murdoch!).
>I'll move perhaps to a freeview based system when these have developed a
>decent series link facility and a good solid reputation. Apparently there
>are to be new PVR products with the freeview name in May 2008? In the
>meantime....shall I risk a Tivo (it records from the sky box?) from ebay I
>wonder.....hmmm.
>
Yes, it will record form a Sky box.

Now I know it'd never happen, but if Sky would just license the TiVo 
software, add it to an HD box with a much bigger harddrive, that would 
truly be a match made in heaven :-)
-- 
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oash wrote:
> Apparently there are to be new PVR products with the freeview name in
> May 2008?

I thought it was this May, not next...

Freeview Playback, IIRC.

"Pyriform"  wrote in message 
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> oash wrote:
>> Apparently there are to be new PVR products with the freeview name in
>> May 2008?
>
> I thought it was this May, not next...
>
> Freeview Playback, IIRC.
Yes 2007. sorry my typo

On 22/04/2007 09:09, oash wrote:

> Anyone seen a freeview pvr yet that records series link like the supreme 
> sky+ - or is it impossible? 

http://www.pvruk.co.uk/freeview_playback.cfm

On Sun, 22 Apr 2007 09:09:47 +0100, "oash"
 wrote:

>Anyone seen a freeview pvr yet that records series link like the supreme 
>sky+ - or is it impossible? 

Toppy with MyStuff or Jags TAP's. www.toppy.org.uk for details.
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Thanks Andy  - sorry didn't see this before my latest post.

"Andy Burns"  wrote in message 
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> On 22/04/2007 09:09, oash wrote:
>
>> Anyone seen a freeview pvr yet that records series link like the supreme 
>> sky+ - or is it impossible?
>
> http://www.pvruk.co.uk/freeview_playback.cfm

On 22/04/2007 14:04, oash wrote:

> Thanks Andy  - sorry didn't see this before my latest post.

I don't think any "Playback" products have been releaed yet, but the 
development version of mythtv can handle (some of) the series link 
functionality ...

Andy Burns  wrote:

> On 22/04/2007 09:09, oash wrote:
> 
> > Anyone seen a freeview pvr yet that records series link like the supreme
> > sky+ - or is it impossible? 
> 
> http://www.pvruk.co.uk/freeview_playback.cfm

I understand that series link won't be rolled out in the first phase of
freeview playback (this from discussion on several Humax forums).

The best of the current machines (Humax and Topfield) will almost
certainly have a software upgrade once everything is running (or maybe
before, so as to be available when it does come).

For the moment, both Humax and Topfield have the posibility of searching
for all programs with specified words in the title, and one can then
manually select these for recording. Not true series link but still
useful.
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"Daniel Cohen"  wrote in message 
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> For the moment, both Humax and Topfield have the posibility of searching
> for all programs with specified words in the title, and one can then
> manually select these for recording. Not true series link but still
> useful.



maybe more useful - sky+ links like to dissapear but my tivo never had that 
problem with keyword recordings.



-- 
Gareth.

That fly... is your magic wand.
http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/

Andy Burns wrote:

> On 22/04/2007 14:04, oash wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Andy  - sorry didn't see this before my latest post.
> 
> I don't think any "Playback" products have been releaed yet, but the
> development version of mythtv can handle (some of) the series link
> functionality ...

MythTV 0.20 which is the current release has the following record options:
 Don't record this program.
 Record only this showing.
 Record this program in this timeslot every day.
 Record this program in this timeslot every week.
 Find and record one showing of this title.
 Find and record one showing of this title each day.
 Find and record one showing of this title each week.
 Record at any time on channel
 Record at any time on any channel.

Bruce S.
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oash wrote:

>the supreme 
>sky+ 

Some people are easily impressed.

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On 23/04/2007 03:44, Bruce Stewart wrote:

> MythTV 0.20 which is the current release has the following record options:

[snip]

I know that, I've used mythtv for a couple of years :-)

But those options work purely on matching text of programme title, 
subtitle and description, the broadcasters apparently can't resist 
slightly re-wording these from one showing to the next (therefore you 
get duplicate recordings and the occasional missed recording too)

The development version which will become 0.21 already has the series 
link based on CRID which should improve the sitation, I /think/ only BBC 
muxes transmit this so far.

On 23 Apr, 08:48, Andy Burns  wrote:
> The development version which will become 0.21 already has the series
> link based on CRID which should improve the sitation, I /think/ only BBC
> muxes transmit this so far.

It's also been spotted on the C4 family, and on Sky 3.

Nigel.