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date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:19:55 +0100,    group: uk.tech.tv.sky        back       
ITV D-Sat Encryption   
Some ITV regions have popped up on Astra 2B recently, and are now encrypted.

An interesting e-mail from ITV's Duty Office was posted on Digital Spy today:

See Post 86:-

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=24627536#post24627536

-- 
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.
date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:19:55 +0100   author:   Mark Carver lid

Re: ITV D-Sat Encryption   
"Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
news:6bnp6bF3btlueU1@mid.individual.net...
> Some ITV regions have popped up on Astra 2B recently, and are now 
> encrypted.
>
> An interesting e-mail from ITV's Duty Office was posted on Digital 
> Spy today:
>
> See Post 86:-
>
> http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=24627536#post24627536
>

God, what a sad place the DS forums are, talk about a cretins and 
idiots tea party! :~(
date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:45:02 +0100   author:   :Jerry: LID

Re: ITV D-Sat Encryption   
"Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
news:6bnp6bF3btlueU1@mid.individual.net...
> Some ITV regions have popped up on Astra 2B recently, and are now 
> encrypted.
>
> An interesting e-mail from ITV's Duty Office was posted on Digital Spy 
> today:
>
> See Post 86:-
>
> http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?p=24627536#post24627536
>
> -- 
> Mark
> Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.


Hi,


Out of interest any idea on the details of what is and how works, "Automatic 
Entitlement".

Thanks for the post, etc.


Best wishes,




News Reader
date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:32:06 +0100   author:   News Reader lid

Re: ITV D-Sat Encryption   
News Reader <no@email.invalid> wrote:
: Out of interest any idea on the details of what is and how works, "Automatic 
: Entitlement".

Probably just the technical term for Sky's FTV implementation - in that all
smartcards have this level of decryption enabled by default (and no
subscriber management is needed)
date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:59:00 +0000 (UTC)   author:   Brian McIlwrath

Re: ITV D-Sat Encryption   
Brian McIlwrath wrote:
> News Reader <no@email.invalid> wrote:
> : Out of interest any idea on the details of what is and how works, "Automatic 
> : Entitlement".
> 
> Probably just the technical term for Sky's FTV implementation - in that all
> smartcards have this level of decryption enabled by default (and no
> subscriber management is needed)

This indicates an extraordinary reversal of ITV's attitude to Sky, and 
I'm amazed *if* they are returning to encryption.

Raises several questions:-

1:  Why are they having to move some regions from 2D ?  Did they lose 
the space to a higher bidder, or have they other plans for 2D (ITV HD ?)

2:  Does this mean that the regions moving to 2B will not be available 
on Freesat boxes ?

3: What of ITV HD ?  Odd to be anti-Sky over this, yet jump into bed 
with them again on encryption, which coupled with regional mapping won't 
be cheap.

Interesting times ahead I think ?
date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:27:04 +0100   author:   Mark Carver lid

Re: ITV D-Sat Encryption   
Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:

: This indicates an extraordinary reversal of ITV's attitude to Sky, and 
: I'm amazed *if* they are returning to encryption.

The "Freesat" Digitalspy forums is busy discussing all your questions!
Some ITV regions are now on 2B and *are* being encrypted with Videoguard
(this is confirmed by people with full-featured receivers!!)

: Raises several questions:-

: 1:  Why are they having to move some regions from 2D ?  Did they lose 
: the space to a higher bidder, or have they other plans for 2D (ITV HD ?)

The ITV Duty Office has said a "contract ending". Unlikely to be a higher
bidder as my understanding was that such contracts were of long duration.

: 2:  Does this mean that the regions moving to 2B will not be available 
: on Freesat boxes ?

Quite possibly!

: 3: What of ITV HD ?  Odd to be anti-Sky over this, yet jump into bed 
: with them again on encryption, which coupled with regional mapping won't 
: be cheap.

My theory on all this is that it is somehow bound up with an (as yet secret)
deal Sky and ITV have done over ITVHD. Perhaps Sky are providing these
encryption services for free to get space freed on 2D for ITVHD.
date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:52:05 +0000 (UTC)   author:   Brian McIlwrath

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