Hi,

I managed to find a picture of the back of a sky hd box, I was wondering why 
it has a 'TV Scart' connection?  I thought all channels (sd & hd) was 
supposed to be viewed via the hdmi connection.

Many thanks in advance

    Matt U.K.

"Matt U.K."  wrote in message 
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> Hi,
>
> I managed to find a picture of the back of a sky hd box, I was wondering 
> why it has a 'TV Scart' connection?  I thought all channels (sd & hd) was 
> supposed to be viewed via the hdmi connection.
>
> Many thanks in advance

I guess it's for a second TV set which will more than likely still be SD. 
Does the box have RF output as well?

"Matt U.K."  wrote in message 
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> Hi,
>
> I managed to find a picture of the back of a sky hd box, I was 
> wondering why it has a 'TV Scart' connection?  I thought all channels 
> (sd & hd) was supposed to be viewed via the hdmi connection.
>
> Many thanks in advance
>
>    Matt U.K.
>
>


Sky HD offers the following connection options:

HDMI  -  provides high definition output
Component video out
Scart (labelled TV Scart)  -  RGB out or Composite out (depending upon 
the box settings)
Scart (labelled VCR Scart) - Composite in / out.  Also allows loop 
through of video output from VCR, etc.
S-Video out
Audio out (right and left)
RF1 out
RF2 out (can be enabled to carry voltage for TV-Link compatibility)

For viewing on an HD television, you would normally opt for the HDMI 
connection.  If the TV has sockets for component video input, I believe 
you could also use component video connectors (plus separate audio 
cables) - but I am not sure about this aspect.

For viewing on a non-HD television, you must choose between the 
following connections.  These connectors do NOT provide HD pictures 
(listed in descending order of quality):

Scart (using RGB signal) - However, older televisions do not always 
display RGB to best advantage
S-Video (with separate audio connection) - Not all TVs can receive 
S-Video input
Scart (using Composite signal ) - all TVs with a Scart socket should be 
able accept a composite video signal
RF

You will find more info at 
http://www.clearly-av.co.uk/question/Video.html

Hi Stephen,

Yes, the box does have RF Out:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sky_hd_001.jpg

    Matt U.K.

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> "Matt U.K."  wrote in message 
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>> Hi,
>>
>> I managed to find a picture of the back of a sky hd box, I was wondering 
>> why it has a 'TV Scart' connection?  I thought all channels (sd & hd) was 
>> supposed to be viewed via the hdmi connection.
>>
>> Many thanks in advance
>
> I guess it's for a second TV set which will more than likely still be SD. 
> Does the box have RF output as well?
>

Hi Bob,

Thanks for the detailed response, I just thought it  a waste to have a 'TV 
Scart' connection AND a hdmi connection on a HD box.

Anyway, thanks for the reply.

Cheers

    Matt U.K.

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> "Matt U.K."  wrote in message 
> news:4KCdndy7uZTc363VRVnyvgA@brightview.com...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I managed to find a picture of the back of a sky hd box, I was wondering 
>> why it has a 'TV Scart' connection?  I thought all channels (sd & hd) was 
>> supposed to be viewed via the hdmi connection.
>>
>> Many thanks in advance
>>
>>    Matt U.K.
>>
>>
>
>
> Sky HD offers the following connection options:
>
> HDMI  -  provides high definition output
> Component video out
> Scart (labelled TV Scart)  -  RGB out or Composite out (depending upon the 
> box settings)
> Scart (labelled VCR Scart) - Composite in / out.  Also allows loop through 
> of video output from VCR, etc.
> S-Video out
> Audio out (right and left)
> RF1 out
> RF2 out (can be enabled to carry voltage for TV-Link compatibility)
>
> For viewing on an HD television, you would normally opt for the HDMI 
> connection.  If the TV has sockets for component video input, I believe 
> you could also use component video connectors (plus separate audio 
> cables) - but I am not sure about this aspect.
>
> For viewing on a non-HD television, you must choose between the following 
> connections.  These connectors do NOT provide HD pictures (listed in 
> descending order of quality):
>
> Scart (using RGB signal) - However, older televisions do not always 
> display RGB to best advantage
> S-Video (with separate audio connection) - Not all TVs can receive S-Video 
> input
> Scart (using Composite signal ) - all TVs with a Scart socket should be 
> able accept a composite video signal
> RF
>
> You will find more info at http://www.clearly-av.co.uk/question/Video.html
>
>
>
>

On Sun, 18 May 2008 15:50:39 +0100, "Matt U.K."
 wrote:

>I managed to find a picture of the back of a sky hd box, I was wondering why 
>it has a 'TV Scart' connection?  I thought all channels (sd & hd) was 
>supposed to be viewed via the hdmi connection.

After getting SkyHD for my HDTV I flogged my old widescreen one and
plugged the old TV via SCART and that indeed worked, even on HD
channels, but it output the HD channels as normal RGB/PAL down SCART.
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On Sun, 18 May 2008 17:12:23 +0100, "Matt U.K."
 wrote:

>Thanks for the detailed response, I just thought it  a waste to have a 'TV 
>Scart' connection AND a hdmi connection on a HD box.

Given the price of the SkyHD box I'd expect it to have SCART sockets
on the back still, otherwise it wouldn't work via TV Link, etc.
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"Matt U.K."  wrote in message 
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> Hi,
>
> I managed to find a picture of the back of a sky hd box, I was wondering 
> why it has a 'TV Scart' connection?  I thought all channels (sd & hd) was 
> supposed to be viewed via the hdmi connection.
>
> Many thanks in advance
>
>    Matt U.K.

Some HD TVs (including my Pioneer) do not automatically switch aspect ratio 
(between 4x3 and 16x9) when viewing SD via HDMI. Therefore I use HDMI for HD 
but SCART for SD.

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>On Sun, 18 May 2008 17:12:23 +0100, "Matt U.K."
> wrote:
>
>>Thanks for the detailed response, I just thought it  a waste to have a 'TV
>>Scart' connection AND a hdmi connection on a HD box.
>
>Given the price of the SkyHD box I'd expect it to have SCART sockets
>on the back still, otherwise it wouldn't work via TV Link, etc.

TV Link uses RF2 output.

What everyone has forgotten is that to copy to an HDD or DVDR you would 
need the Scart connection.
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On Sun, 18 May 2008 17:34:52 +0100, Peter Pratten
 wrote:

>>>Thanks for the detailed response, I just thought it  a waste to have a 'TV
>>>Scart' connection AND a hdmi connection on a HD box.
>>
>>Given the price of the SkyHD box I'd expect it to have SCART sockets
>>on the back still, otherwise it wouldn't work via TV Link, etc.
>
>TV Link uses RF2 output.

Ahh, I was thinking of something like a DigiSender which uses SCART.

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Hi Malcolm,

Thanks for the reply, I was wondering if anyone was using BOTH connections 
on an HD box.  I'll give that a try when I order the box, I'm just waiting 
to see if the price (£249+£60 installation!) drops now that freesat is 
available.

Cheers

        Matt U.K.

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> "Matt U.K."  wrote in message 
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>> Hi,
>>
>> I managed to find a picture of the back of a sky hd box, I was wondering 
>> why it has a 'TV Scart' connection?  I thought all channels (sd & hd) was 
>> supposed to be viewed via the hdmi connection.
>>
>> Many thanks in advance
>>
>>    Matt U.K.
>
> Some HD TVs (including my Pioneer) do not automatically switch aspect 
> ratio (between 4x3 and 16x9) when viewing SD via HDMI. Therefore I use 
> HDMI for HD but SCART for SD.

"Matt U.K."  wrote in message 
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> Hi Malcolm,
>
> Thanks for the reply, I was wondering if anyone was using BOTH 
> connections on an HD box.  I'll give that a try when I order the box, 
> I'm just waiting to see if the price (£249+£60 installation!) drops 
> now that freesat is available.
>
> Cheers
>
>        Matt U.K.
>
> "Malcolm H"  wrote in message 
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>>
>> "Matt U.K."  wrote in message 
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>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I managed to find a picture of the back of a sky hd box, I was 
>>> wondering why it has a 'TV Scart' connection?  I thought all 
>>> channels (sd & hd) was supposed to be viewed via the hdmi 
>>> connection.
>>>
>>> Many thanks in advance
>>>
>>>    Matt U.K.
>>
>> Some HD TVs (including my Pioneer) do not automatically switch aspect 
>> ratio (between 4x3 and 16x9) when viewing SD via HDMI. Therefore I 
>> use HDMI for HD but SCART for SD.
>
>


One word of warning.

On the Sky HD receiver, the lower Scart socket (the RGB scart) is very 
close to the HDMI socket.

The cable on a standard Scart plug, which enters the plug from one side, 
obstructs the the HDMI socket (if you want to use both connections at 
the same time).  Consequently, you should select the type of Scart lead 
carefully - and choose one where the wire enters the plug from the rear 
(not at an angle).

I am not recommending any particular retailer or brand.  However, have a 
look at the illustration at 
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/72541/Electrical/TV-Range/Leads-Connectors/Flat-Ribbon-Scart-To-Scart-Lead-0-5m

"Matt U.K."  wrote in message 
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> Hi,
>
> I managed to find a picture of the back of a sky hd box, I was wondering 
> why it has a 'TV Scart' connection?  I thought all channels (sd & hd) was 
> supposed to be viewed via the hdmi connection.
>
> Many thanks in advance
>
>    Matt U.K.
>
>
>



the scart sockets work fine - but naturally hd channels will only output in 
SD.
using the HDMI output is a better idea though - for sd channels too.
maybe they did it just for backwards compatibility - and dvd recorders etc.


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"Matt U.K."  wrote in message 
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> Hi Malcolm,
>
> Thanks for the reply, I was wondering if anyone was using BOTH connections 
> on an HD box.  I'll give that a try when I order the box, I'm just waiting 
> to see if the price (£249+£60 installation!) drops now that freesat is 
> available.



i paid about 180 via ebay around a year ago - already had a dish so no 
fitting needed.



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Bob Lucas wrote:

> One word of warning.
> 
> On the Sky HD receiver, the lower Scart socket (the RGB scart) is very 
> close to the HDMI socket.

I took my box apart last week, to change the PSU capacitors. It really is an 
appallingly designed piece of equipment. Not one, but two cooling fans, silly 
bits of plastic casing, the guts inside effectively a tin box, without any 
holes (hence the fans), and as you say rear connectors that obscure each other.

Awful, and a tip for any wishing to relocate the fan, after they've fixed the 
PSU, use Olive Oil on the rubber legs, they slip through like magic !


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>Ahh, I was thinking of something like a DigiSender which uses SCART.

Say what you think and you will be understood :-)
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