My Nov '06 Sky+ box (a Pace) is playing up:

- Choosing to view a recorded program results in no response
-  -"- results in a frozen screen with a picture on the last image viewed 
when watching the last recorded program.
- Frozen box altogether.

All the above only happens occasionally, and only started a month ago or so. 
A reset (unplugging from mains and plugging again) seem to fix it in 
general.

As we have been great fans of the recording feature over the last year and a 
half, I thought that it would make sense to try to rebuild the planner 
before I try anything else as suggested on this group in the past.

My problem is that I cannot find how to do it. It was suggested to go to the 
Installer's Menu (Services, 4, 0, 1, Select). but after pressing 4, there is 
no '0' option, and just pressing '0' on the remote has no effect.

Help please...

JoeJoe  wrote:

: My problem is that I cannot find how to do it. It was suggested to go to the 
: Installer's Menu (Services, 4, 0, 1, Select). but after pressing 4, there is 
: no '0' option, and just pressing '0' on the remote has no effect.

Your problem is wanting things to happen on intermediate key presses!
Just press the key sequence - nothing happens on the "0,1,Select" part
of it - until the sequence is complete and the "Installers Menu" should
appear.

On 2008-05-03, JoeJoe  wrote:
> My Nov '06 Sky+ box (a Pace) is playing up:
>
> - Choosing to view a recorded program results in no response
> -  -"- results in a frozen screen with a picture on the last image viewed 
> when watching the last recorded program.
> - Frozen box altogether.
>
> All the above only happens occasionally, and only started a month ago or so. 
> A reset (unplugging from mains and plugging again) seem to fix it in 
> general.
>
> As we have been great fans of the recording feature over the last year and a 
> half, I thought that it would make sense to try to rebuild the planner 
> before I try anything else as suggested on this group in the past.
>
> My problem is that I cannot find how to do it. It was suggested to go to the 
> Installer's Menu (Services, 4, 0, 1, Select). but after pressing 4, there is 
> no '0' option, and just pressing '0' on the remote has no effect.

Don't just press '0'.  Press '0', '1', Select.

-- 
David Taylor

On Sat, 3 May 2008 09:10:27 +0000 (UTC), Brian McIlwrath
 wrote:

>JoeJoe  wrote:
>
>: My problem is that I cannot find how to do it. It was suggested to go to the 
>: Installer's Menu (Services, 4, 0, 1, Select). but after pressing 4, there is 
>: no '0' option, and just pressing '0' on the remote has no effect.
>
>Your problem is wanting things to happen on intermediate key presses!
>Just press the key sequence - nothing happens on the "0,1,Select" part
>of it - until the sequence is complete and the "Installers Menu" should
>appear.

Yup.  After Services don't scroll down to 4 then look for 0, just hit
Services, the button 4 on your remote then 0,1,select.
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On Sat, 3 May 2008 09:50:49 +0100, "JoeJoe"  wrote:

> My problem is that I cannot find how to do it. It was suggested to go to the 
> Installer's Menu (Services, 4, 0, 1, Select). but after pressing 4, there is 
> no '0' option, and just pressing '0' on the remote has no effect.

You were not told to press 4 and wait for a 0 option, you were told to
press 4, 0, 1, Select - i.e. a sequence of four presses.  Give it a try.

Tony

"Anthony R. Gold"  wrote in message 
news:2dqp149s6rvsvn30co973n6fugsj1b2sq6@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 3 May 2008 09:50:49 +0100, "JoeJoe"  wrote:
>
>> My problem is that I cannot find how to do it. It was suggested to 
>> go to the
>> Installer's Menu (Services, 4, 0, 1, Select). but after pressing 4, 
>> there is
>> no '0' option, and just pressing '0' on the remote has no effect.
>
> You were not told to press 4 and wait for a 0 option, you were told 
> to
> press 4, 0, 1, Select - i.e. a sequence of four presses.  Give it a 
> try.
>

Wouldn't it be better to describe the methodology as "input 401 and 
then press select", just as one would do is wanting to select a 
channel?

On Sun, 4 May 2008 02:18:47 +0100, ":Jerry:" <INVALID@INVALID.INVALID>
wrote:

>
>"Anthony R. Gold"  wrote in message 
>news:2dqp149s6rvsvn30co973n6fugsj1b2sq6@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 3 May 2008 09:50:49 +0100, "JoeJoe"  wrote:
>>
>>> My problem is that I cannot find how to do it. It was suggested to 
>>> go to the
>>> Installer's Menu (Services, 4, 0, 1, Select). but after pressing 4, 
>>> there is
>>> no '0' option, and just pressing '0' on the remote has no effect.
>>
>> You were not told to press 4 and wait for a 0 option, you were told 
>> to
>> press 4, 0, 1, Select - i.e. a sequence of four presses.  Give it a 
>> try.
>>
>
>Wouldn't it be better to describe the methodology as "input 401 and 
>then press select", just as one would do is wanting to select a 
>channel?

If they can't follow simple instructions like "Press Services, 4, 0,
1, Select" then really there's no point wasting anymore time on them.
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"JoeJoe"  wrote in message 
news:HuSdnZ40Yan4uoHVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@plusnet...
> My Nov '06 Sky+ box (a Pace) is playing up:
>
> - Choosing to view a recorded program results in no response
> -  -"- results in a frozen screen with a picture on the last image viewed 
> when watching the last recorded program.
> - Frozen box altogether.
>
> All the above only happens occasionally, and only started a month ago or 
> so. A reset (unplugging from mains and plugging again) seem to fix it in 
> general.
>
> As we have been great fans of the recording feature over the last year and 
> a half, I thought that it would make sense to try to rebuild the planner 
> before I try anything else as suggested on this group in the past.
>
> My problem is that I cannot find how to do it. It was suggested to go to 
> the Installer's Menu (Services, 4, 0, 1, Select). but after pressing 4, 
> there is no '0' option, and just pressing '0' on the remote has no effect.
>
> Help please...


Thanks all - everything works now.

On Sun, 4 May 2008 02:18:47 +0100, :Jerry: put finger to keyboard and
typed:

>
>"Anthony R. Gold"  wrote in message 
>news:2dqp149s6rvsvn30co973n6fugsj1b2sq6@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 3 May 2008 09:50:49 +0100, "JoeJoe"  wrote:
>>
>>> My problem is that I cannot find how to do it. It was suggested to 
>>> go to the
>>> Installer's Menu (Services, 4, 0, 1, Select). but after pressing 4, 
>>> there is
>>> no '0' option, and just pressing '0' on the remote has no effect.
>>
>> You were not told to press 4 and wait for a 0 option, you were told 
>> to
>> press 4, 0, 1, Select - i.e. a sequence of four presses.  Give it a 
>> try.
>>
>
>Wouldn't it be better to describe the methodology as "input 401 and 
>then press select", just as one would do is wanting to select a 
>channel? 

Yes, it would. Including commas implies three separate options with a
pause between them, when it's actually a single option that happens to
have a multi-digit number.

Mark
-- 
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"And when you play you feel all right"

"BGN"  wrote in message 
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> On Sun, 4 May 2008 02:18:47 +0100, ":Jerry:" 
> <INVALID@INVALID.INVALID>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Anthony R. Gold"  wrote in message
>>news:2dqp149s6rvsvn30co973n6fugsj1b2sq6@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 3 May 2008 09:50:49 +0100, "JoeJoe"  wrote:
>>>
>>>> My problem is that I cannot find how to do it. It was suggested 
>>>> to
>>>> go to the
>>>> Installer's Menu (Services, 4, 0, 1, Select). but after pressing 
>>>> 4,
>>>> there is
>>>> no '0' option, and just pressing '0' on the remote has no effect.
>>>
>>> You were not told to press 4 and wait for a 0 option, you were 
>>> told
>>> to
>>> press 4, 0, 1, Select - i.e. a sequence of four presses.  Give it 
>>> a
>>> try.
>>>
>>
>>Wouldn't it be better to describe the methodology as "input 401 and
>>then press select", just as one would do is wanting to select a
>>channel?
>
> If they can't follow simple instructions like "Press Services, 4, 0,
> 1, Select" then really there's no point wasting anymore time on 
> them.

But writing it like that make it look like it is meant to be separate 
inputs, you don't say channel 0,1,1,5 when telling someone what LCN 
BBC World service is on, people will just write input 0115 and then 
press "select".

On Sun, 4 May 2008 09:51:33 +0100, ":Jerry:" <INVALID@INVALID.INVALID>
wrote:

>> If they can't follow simple instructions like "Press Services, 4, 0,
>> 1, Select" then really there's no point wasting anymore time on 
>> them.
>
>But writing it like that make it look like it is meant to be separate 
>inputs, you don't say channel 0,1,1,5 when telling someone what LCN 
>BBC World service is on, people will just write input 0115 and then 
>press "select".

<grabs remote> On my ancient Pace box, which is hooked up to my TiVo,
hitting Services 401 Select quickly as if keying in a channel number
doesn't work as it takes a couple of seconts for services to come up
meaning the box has forgotten I've pressed 4 and 0 by the time it's
come up which is why Services, 4, 0, 1, Select is a better way of
presenting it.
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On 2008-05-04, Mark Goodge  wrote:
> On Sun, 4 May 2008 02:18:47 +0100, :Jerry: put finger to keyboard and
> typed:
>
>>
>>Wouldn't it be better to describe the methodology as "input 401 and 
>>then press select", just as one would do is wanting to select a 
>>channel? 
>
> Yes, it would. Including commas implies three separate options with a
> pause between them, when it's actually a single option that happens to
> have a multi-digit number.

If someone is confused by the instructions to press the key sequence:

Services, 4, 0, 1, Select

What is to prevent them being confused when told to press:

Services, 401, Select?

There is, after all, no "401" key.  Nothing will appear to confirm they
have input "401" either.

It's a bit like people asking where the "any" key is...

-- 
David Taylor

On Sun, 4 May 2008 10:17:14 +0000 (UTC), David Taylor put finger to
keyboard and typed:

>On 2008-05-04, Mark Goodge  wrote:
>> On Sun, 4 May 2008 02:18:47 +0100, :Jerry: put finger to keyboard and
>> typed:
>>
>>>
>>>Wouldn't it be better to describe the methodology as "input 401 and 
>>>then press select", just as one would do is wanting to select a 
>>>channel? 
>>
>> Yes, it would. Including commas implies three separate options with a
>> pause between them, when it's actually a single option that happens to
>> have a multi-digit number.
>
>If someone is confused by the instructions to press the key sequence:
>
>Services, 4, 0, 1, Select
>
>What is to prevent them being confused when told to press:
>
>Services, 401, Select?

The fact that there is no apparant pause indicated between the digits.

>There is, after all, no "401" key. 

That doesn't stop people being able to select channel 401.

> Nothing will appear to confirm they
>have input "401" either.

It will when they press select.

Mark
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In article ,
	Mark Goodge wrote:

>>What is to prevent them being confused when told to press:
>>
>>Services, 401, Select?

> The fact that there is no apparant pause indicated between the digits.

The Installer menu is actually selection "01" off the System Setup
menu.


To be strictly correct, the sequence should be described as:

Press Services then 4 to get to the System Setup menu.

Now press buttons in the sequence 0, then 1, then Select, to get to the
hidden Installer Setup menu. You won't see anything happen on screen
until after you've pressed Select.

-- 
Paul Martin

In article , BGN 
 writes
>Yup.  After Services don't scroll down to 4 then look for 0, just hit 
>Services, the button 4 on your remote then 0,1,select.
You can arrive at System Setup by any route including Backup from a sub- 
menu.  It is the rest of the sequence which needs to be entered with 
eyes closed.
-- 
Peter Pratten
Please reply in group only

Paul Martin wrote:
> In article ,
> Mark Goodge wrote:
>
>>> What is to prevent them being confused when told to press:
>>>
>>> Services, 401, Select?
>
>> The fact that there is no apparant pause indicated between the
>> digits.
>
> The Installer menu is actually selection "01" off the System Setup
> menu.
>
>
> To be strictly correct, the sequence should be described as:
>
> Press Services then 4 to get to the System Setup menu.
>
> Now press buttons in the sequence 0, then 1, then Select, to get to
> the hidden Installer Setup menu. You won't see anything happen on
> screen until after you've pressed Select.

Usenet never fails to surprise me! People discussing how to push certain
buttons on a remote control is just brilliant!!!  :-)

On Tue, 6 May 2008 01:40:20 +0100, Peter Pratten
 wrote:

>In article , BGN 
> writes
>>Yup.  After Services don't scroll down to 4 then look for 0, just hit 
>>Services, the button 4 on your remote then 0,1,select.
>You can arrive at System Setup by any route including Backup from a sub- 
>menu.  It is the rest of the sequence which needs to be entered with 
>eyes closed.

Thanks, but I've got no problems.
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In article <Ca0Uj.25330$j7.467177@news.indigo.ie>,
	Stephen O'Connell wrote:

> Usenet never fails to surprise me! People discussing how to push certain
> buttons on a remote control is just brilliant!!!  :-)

How many angels would you like on the head of your pin, sir?

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