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date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:24:47 +0000,
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Freesat in a flat
I live in a block of flats with a shared dish, each flat has a single
wall outlet which I currently use for Sky. I am about to terminate my
subscription to them and was wondering if this shared dish will allow
to receive Freesat HD?
date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:24:47 +0000
author: John B se
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Re: Freesat in a flat
"John B" <nospam@nospam.please> wrote in message
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>I live in a block of flats with a shared dish, each flat has a single
> wall outlet which I currently use for Sky. I am about to terminate my
> subscription to them and was wondering if this shared dish will allow
> to receive Freesat HD?
>
It depends what it is pointing at !
date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:30:28 -0000
author: Roger
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Re: Freesat in a flat
"John B" <nospam@nospam.please> wrote in message
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>I live in a block of flats with a shared dish, each flat has a single
> wall outlet which I currently use for Sky. I am about to terminate my
> subscription to them and was wondering if this shared dish will allow
> to receive Freesat HD?
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freesat
read the Satellite Dish section
date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:31:40 -0000
author: Jef Roe
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Re: Freesat in a flat
John B wrote:
> I live in a block of flats with a shared dish, each flat has a single
> wall outlet which I currently use for Sky. I am about to terminate my
> subscription to them and was wondering if this shared dish will allow
> to receive Freesat HD?
Yes, it should work. Just swap the Sky box for a Freesat HD one.
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date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:35:29 +0000
author: Mark Carver lid
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Re: Freesat in a flat
"John B" <nospam@nospam.please> wrote in message
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>I live in a block of flats with a shared dish, each flat has a single
> wall outlet which I currently use for Sky. I am about to terminate my
> subscription to them and was wondering if this shared dish will allow
> to receive Freesat HD?
>
Yes.
date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 20:42:44 -0000
author: R. Mark Clayton
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Re: Freesat in a flat
On 08/11/2009 20:30, Roger wrote:
> "John B"<nospam@nospam.please> wrote in message
> news:gv9ef5luc98cuckv2h9vigjkr0ceqpuggv@4ax.com...
>> I live in a block of flats with a shared dish, each flat has a single
>> wall outlet which I currently use for Sky. I am about to terminate my
>> subscription to them and was wondering if this shared dish will allow
>> to receive Freesat HD?
>>
> It depends what it is pointing at !
>
>
Which bit of "which I currently use for Sky" isn't clear?
date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:19:07 +0000
author: Peter Watson
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Re: Freesat in a flat
On 08/11/09 21:19, Peter Watson wrote:
> Which bit [...] isn't clear?
That'll be Roger's thought processes.
date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:28:49 +0000
author: Andy Burns
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Re: Freesat in a flat
"John B" <nospam@nospam.please> wrote in message news:gv9ef5luc98cuckv2h9vigjkr0ceqpuggv@4ax.com...
>I live in a block of flats with a shared dish, each flat has a single
> wall outlet which I currently use for Sky. I am about to terminate my
> subscription to them and was wondering if this shared dish will allow
> to receive Freesat HD?
I have made this comment here before, but your question is further evidence
that Freesat would gain many more customers if they would make it clear
on their website, printed literature, and point of sale advertising, that an existing
Sky Digital dish is perfect for Freesat. They just can't seem to bring themselves
to utter the S word.
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date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:33:25 -0000
author: Graham.
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Re: Freesat in a flat
"Graham." wrote in message
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> "John B" <nospam@nospam.please> wrote in message
> news:gv9ef5luc98cuckv2h9vigjkr0ceqpuggv@4ax.com...
>>I live in a block of flats with a shared dish, each flat has a single
>> wall outlet which I currently use for Sky. I am about to terminate my
>> subscription to them and was wondering if this shared dish will allow
>> to receive Freesat HD?
>
>
> I have made this comment here before, but your question is further
> evidence
> that Freesat would gain many more customers if they would make it clear
> on their website, printed literature, and point of sale advertising, that
> an existing
> Sky Digital dish is perfect for Freesat. They just can't seem to bring
> themselves
> to utter the S word.
> --
I have Freesat HD and I get some BBC programmes in HD and a few ITV1
programmes per week in HD.
So I can't understand anyone changing to Freesat from Sky for HD.
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David
FREESAT HD as it is now it is a joke.
date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:08:30 -0000
author: David
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Re: Freesat in a flat
In message <hd7fjv$mt5$1@news.albasani.net>, David
wrote
>So I can't understand anyone changing to Freesat from Sky for HD.
Is HD from Sky free?
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date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:50:53 +0000
author: Alan
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Re: Freesat in a flat
"David" wrote in message
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> "Graham." wrote in message
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>>
>> "John B" <nospam@nospam.please> wrote in message
>> news:gv9ef5luc98cuckv2h9vigjkr0ceqpuggv@4ax.com...
>>>I live in a block of flats with a shared dish, each flat has a single
>>> wall outlet which I currently use for Sky. I am about to terminate my
>>> subscription to them and was wondering if this shared dish will allow
>>> to receive Freesat HD?
>>
>>
>> I have made this comment here before, but your question is further
>> evidence
>> that Freesat would gain many more customers if they would make it clear
>> on their website, printed literature, and point of sale advertising, that
>> an existing
>> Sky Digital dish is perfect for Freesat. They just can't seem to bring
>> themselves
>> to utter the S word.
>> --
>
> I have Freesat HD and I get some BBC programmes in HD and a few ITV1
> programmes per week in HD.
> So I can't understand anyone changing to Freesat from Sky for HD.
not having to pay 10 pound per month to be allowed to record programs,
perhaps.
tim
date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:27:59 -0000
author: tim....
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Re: Freesat in a flat
Alan wrote:
: >So I can't understand anyone changing to Freesat from Sky for HD.
: Is HD from Sky free?
*ALL* The HD content that is carried on Freesat is also free on Sky!
date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 23:39:21 +0000 (UTC)
author: (Brian Mc)
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Re: Freesat in a flat
> It depends what it is pointing at !
>
>
>Which bit of "which I currently use for Sky" isn't clear?
Take no notice of Roger. He's deranged.
Bill
date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:48:54 GMT
author: Bill
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Re: Freesat in a flat
Brian Mc wrote:
> Alan wrote:
> : >So I can't understand anyone changing to Freesat from Sky for HD.
>
> : Is HD from Sky free?
>
> *ALL* The HD content that is carried on Freesat is also free on Sky!
Arguably not ITV HD, you have to add it manually AIUI, and therefore it can't
be recorded because it's not on the Sky EPG.
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date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 08:29:05 +0000
author: Mark Carver lid
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Re: Freesat in a flat
Yeah funny they won't say that, as its almost like Hoover is to vacuum
cleaners now. Interestingly, some of these queries in flats may well be due
to the fact that some installations seem to have had labels attached to the
wall plate with the Sky logo on them.
I suspect this may well have made the installation a little cheaper for the
advertising? Who knows.
Brian
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"Graham." wrote in message
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> "John B" <nospam@nospam.please> wrote in message
> news:gv9ef5luc98cuckv2h9vigjkr0ceqpuggv@4ax.com...
>>I live in a block of flats with a shared dish, each flat has a single
>> wall outlet which I currently use for Sky. I am about to terminate my
>> subscription to them and was wondering if this shared dish will allow
>> to receive Freesat HD?
>
>
> I have made this comment here before, but your question is further
> evidence
> that Freesat would gain many more customers if they would make it clear
> on their website, printed literature, and point of sale advertising, that
> an existing
> Sky Digital dish is perfect for Freesat. They just can't seem to bring
> themselves
> to utter the S word.
> --
> Graham.
>
> %Profound_observation%
>
date: Mon, 09 Nov 2009 09:12:20 GMT
author: Brian Gaff
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Re: Freesat in a flat
On 9 Nov, 09:12, "Brian Gaff" wrote:
> ... Interestingly, some of these queries in flats may well be due
> to the fact that some installations seem to have had labels attached to the
> wall plate with the Sky logo on them.
> I suspect this may well have made the installation a little cheaper for the
> advertising? Who knows.
Sky install in small-to-medium blocks of flats free if a certain
number of flats sign up at the same time.
If it was more widely taken up it would reduce the fungi-farm of
dishes sprouting from tenement walls.
Owain
date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 02:21:56 -0800 (PST)
author: Owain
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Re: Freesat in a flat
>Yeah funny they won't say that, as its almost like Hoover is to vacuum
cleaners now. Interestingly, some of these queries in flats may well be due
to the fact that some installations seem to have had labels attached to the
wall plate with the Sky logo on them.
So many times in a week I say "So you do have the option of satellite," and
then before they can jump up with a big whine about Sky, "and that would be
Freesat, which is nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with Sky." Some of them
continue say what they were going to say when they heard the trigger word
'satellite' without listening, such is the power of the 'S' word, and the
hatred many people feel for it. I end up jumping up and down saying, "It's
nothing to do with blankety blank Sky!"
Bill
date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 17:06:47 GMT
author: Bill
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Re: Freesat in a flat
"Graham." wrote in message
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>
>
> "John B" <nospam@nospam.please> wrote in message
> news:gv9ef5luc98cuckv2h9vigjkr0ceqpuggv@4ax.com...
>>I live in a block of flats with a shared dish, each flat has a single
>> wall outlet which I currently use for Sky. I am about to terminate my
>> subscription to them and was wondering if this shared dish will allow
>> to receive Freesat HD?
>
>
> I have made this comment here before, but your question is further
> evidence
> that Freesat would gain many more customers if they would make it clear
> on their website, printed literature, and point of sale advertising, that
> an existing
> Sky Digital dish is perfect for Freesat. They just can't seem to bring
> themselves
> to utter the S word.
> --
> Graham.
>
> %Profound_observation%
>
Probably because they have bluffed them with legal action threats (like all
those pubs that had footie on foreign channels.
date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:51:00 -0000
author: R. Mark Clayton
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Re: Freesat in a flat
On 9 Nov, 17:06, "Bill" wrote:
> So many times in a week I say "So you do have the option of satellite," and
> then before they can jump up with a big whine about Sky, "and that would be
> Freesat, which is nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with Sky." Some of them
> continue say what they were going to say when they heard the trigger word
> 'satellite' without listening, such is the power of the 'S' word, and the
> hatred many people feel for it. I end up jumping up and down saying, "It's
> nothing to do with blankety blank Sky!"
Maybe you should just tell them they can get Freeview-from-a-dish.
Owain
date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:00:59 -0800 (PST)
author: Owain
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Re: Freesat in a flat
"R. Mark Clayton" wrote in message
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> "Graham." wrote in message
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>> "John B" <nospam@nospam.please> wrote in message
>> news:gv9ef5luc98cuckv2h9vigjkr0ceqpuggv@4ax.com...
>>>I live in a block of flats with a shared dish, each flat has a single
>>> wall outlet which I currently use for Sky. I am about to terminate my
>>> subscription to them and was wondering if this shared dish will allow
>>> to receive Freesat HD?
>>
>>
>> I have made this comment here before, but your question is further
>> evidence
>> that Freesat would gain many more customers if they would make it clear
>> on their website, printed literature, and point of sale advertising, that
>> an existing
>> Sky Digital dish is perfect for Freesat. They just can't seem to bring
>> themselves
>> to utter the S word.
>> --
>> Graham.
>>
>> %Profound_observation%
>>
>
> Probably because they have bluffed them with legal action threats (like
> all those pubs that had footie on foreign channels.
except that that's still trundling through the courts, so isn't a bluff
tim
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date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:13:07 -0000
author: tim....
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Re: Freesat in a flat
"R. Mark Clayton" wrote in message news:iO2dnUdSz5EJ-WXXnZ2dnUVZ8hSdnZ2d@bt.com...
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> "Graham." wrote in message news:hd7df7$imr$1@news.eternal-september.org...
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>> "John B" <nospam@nospam.please> wrote in message news:gv9ef5luc98cuckv2h9vigjkr0ceqpuggv@4ax.com...
>>>I live in a block of flats with a shared dish, each flat has a single
>>> wall outlet which I currently use for Sky. I am about to terminate my
>>> subscription to them and was wondering if this shared dish will allow
>>> to receive Freesat HD?
>>
>>
>> I have made this comment here before, but your question is further evidence
>> that Freesat would gain many more customers if they would make it clear
>> on their website, printed literature, and point of sale advertising, that an existing
>> Sky Digital dish is perfect for Freesat. They just can't seem to bring themselves
>> to utter the S word.
>> --
>> Graham.
>>
>> %Profound_observation%
>>
>
> Probably because they have bluffed them with legal action threats (like all those pubs that had footie on foreign channels.
What possible threat could have been made to Freesat?
It's perfectly legal for a company to mention the name of a competitor.
Something like "A dish that was originally installed for Sky Digital
is perfect for Freesat"
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date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:05:18 -0000
author: Graham.
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Re: Freesat in a flat
On 9 Nov, 17:06, "Bill" wrote:
> So many times in a week I say "So you do have the option of satellite,"
> and
> then before they can jump up with a big whine about Sky, "and that would
> be
> Freesat, which is nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with Sky." Some of
> them
> continue say what they were going to say when they heard the trigger word
> 'satellite' without listening, such is the power of the 'S' word, and the
> hatred many people feel for it. I end up jumping up and down saying, "It's
> nothing to do with blankety blank Sky!"
>Maybe you should just tell them they can get Freeview-from-a-dish.
>Owain
The problem is that I don't want to do anything to increase the confusion
between Freeview and Freesat. It's bad enough already. But even the use of
the word 'dish' would lead to
"Dish? Do you mean satellite dish? No no no no no! We won't have Sky! No no
no no no!"
Bill
date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:46:24 GMT
author: Bill
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Re: Freesat in a flat
If $ky turned objectionable, I suspect that the BBC could well have a
counter case over "FreeToView" and "Freesatfrom$ky".
On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:51:00 -0000, "R. Mark Clayton"
wrote:
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> Probably because they have bluffed them with legal action threats (like all
> those pubs that had footie on foreign channels.
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date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 01:53:30 +0000
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Re: Freesat in a flat
"Bill" wrote in message news:VomdnUCF9vd-KmXXnZ2dnUVZ8ridnZ2d@pipex.net...
> On 9 Nov, 17:06, "Bill" wrote:
>> So many times in a week I say "So you do have the option of satellite,"
>> and
>> then before they can jump up with a big whine about Sky, "and that would
>> be
>> Freesat, which is nothing, absolutely nothing, to do with Sky." Some of
>> them
>> continue say what they were going to say when they heard the trigger word
>> 'satellite' without listening, such is the power of the 'S' word, and the
>> hatred many people feel for it. I end up jumping up and down saying, "It's
>> nothing to do with blankety blank Sky!"
>
>>Maybe you should just tell them they can get Freeview-from-a-dish.
>
>>Owain
>
> The problem is that I don't want to do anything to increase the confusion
> between Freeview and Freesat. It's bad enough already. But even the use of
> the word 'dish' would lead to
> "Dish? Do you mean satellite dish? No no no no no! We won't have Sky! No no
> no no no!"
>
> Bill
Got it. (It worked for Unilever)
I decree from this day Freesat will be called
I Can't Beleve It's Not Sky
Even works in German ;-)
ICBINS nicht Sky!
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date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 12:27:55 -0000
author: Graham.
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Re: Freesat in a flat
On Nov 10, 1:53 am, Java Jive <j...@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
> If $ky turned objectionable, I suspect that the BBC could well have a
> counter case over "FreeToView" and "Freesatfrom$ky".
>
> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 18:51:00 -0000, "R. Mark Clayton"
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> wrote:
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> > Probably because they have bluffed them with legal action threats (like all
> > those pubs that had footie on foreign channels.
>
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But what case would that be? BBC is a partner in Freesat, is it not
allowed to promote its own products now? "Next on BBC One, the News"
or "Next on BBC One, the News, or if you have a satellite dish you
could choose to watch Sky News, or Sky One, or Sky Movies, or Sky
Sports, or......."
In a sop to avoiding their monopolistic position (which I fully
support!!), BBC usually caveat with "other satellite and cable
services are available", but I can't see any reason why Sky would have
a cause of action in the courts if BBC started promoting Freesat
actively as something that could be used where existing Sky equipment
was in place.
Matt
date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:46:51 -0800 (PST)
author: larkim
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Re: Freesat in a flat
>Got it. (It worked for Unilever)
I decree from this day Freesat will be called
I Can't Beleve It's Not Sky
>Even works in German ;-)
ICBINS nicht Sky!
This could be the solution.
Bill
date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:34:31 GMT
author: Bill
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