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date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 14:17:57 +0100,    group: uk.tech.digital-tv        back       
Cheap alignment equipment   
Now that the Daewoo Setpal boxes have ceased working it may be still 
worth keeping them if you are installing your own aerial.

The box has a status facility that shows the transmitter name, all the 
MUXs, signal strength and signal quality on a single screen. If you 
receive broadcasts for more than one transmitter the information is also 
shown on multiple status pages. These status pages are ideal for aerial 
alignment/adjustment.
-- 
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com
date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 14:17:57 +0100   author:   Alan

Re: Cheap alignment equipment   
"Alan"  wrote in message 
news:ICahs6AFenxIFwjd@amac.f2s.com...
>
> Now that the Daewoo Setpal boxes have ceased working it may be still worth 
> keeping them if you are installing your own aerial.
>
> The box has a status facility that shows the transmitter name, all the 
> MUXs, signal strength and signal quality on a single screen. If you 
> receive broadcasts for more than one transmitter the information is also 
> shown on multiple status pages. These status pages are ideal for aerial 
> alignment/adjustment.
> -- 

Unfortunately [on my boxes at least] all of that completely disappears once 
one has been seduced by the on screen graphics inviting them to press 'yes' 
to perform the last fatal rescan...  However, the colour bars are still ok!

PS. a friend who has been sensible enough not to press 'yes' assures me that 
his Setpal box is still working fine.
date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 20:18:03 +0100   author:   Ivan ivan'H'

Re: Cheap alignment equipment   
So does that mean then that its using a stored snap of the old data? Surely 
when channels alter it will be mega confused. I'd have also thought that a 
factory reset was possible that would get it to work, albeit incorrectly.

Brian

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"Ivan" <ivan'H'older@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:6io0fhFrmfl1U1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "Alan"  wrote in message 
> news:ICahs6AFenxIFwjd@amac.f2s.com...
>>
>> Now that the Daewoo Setpal boxes have ceased working it may be still 
>> worth keeping them if you are installing your own aerial.
>>
>> The box has a status facility that shows the transmitter name, all the 
>> MUXs, signal strength and signal quality on a single screen. If you 
>> receive broadcasts for more than one transmitter the information is also 
>> shown on multiple status pages. These status pages are ideal for aerial 
>> alignment/adjustment.
>> -- 
>
> Unfortunately [on my boxes at least] all of that completely disappears 
> once one has been seduced by the on screen graphics inviting them to press 
> 'yes' to perform the last fatal rescan...  However, the colour bars are 
> still ok!
>
> PS. a friend who has been sensible enough not to press 'yes' assures me 
> that his Setpal box is still working fine.
date: Tue, 09 Sep 2008 19:40:23 GMT   author:   Brian Gaff

Re: Cheap alignment equipment   
Alan  wrote:

> Now that the Daewoo Setpal boxes have ceased working it may be still 
> worth keeping them if you are installing your own aerial.
> 
> The box has a status facility that shows the transmitter name, all the
> MUXs, signal strength and signal quality on a single screen. If you 
> receive broadcasts for more than one transmitter the information is also
> shown on multiple status pages. These status pages are ideal for aerial
> alignment/adjustment.

None of that works once you have rescanned for new channels. And if you
haven't yet rescanned you can still use the box for watching programmes.

-- 
Alan Pemberton
Sheffield, South Yorkshire, England
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date: Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:01:04 +0100   author:   lid (Alan Pemberton)

Re: Cheap alignment equipment   
"Alan Pemberton" <Spambox@pembers.freeserve.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message 
news:1in0iux.vr8wzn7mepfaN%Spambox@pembers.freeserve.co.uk.invalid...
> Alan  wrote:
>
>> Now that the Daewoo Setpal boxes have ceased working it may be still
>> worth keeping them if you are installing your own aerial.
>>
>> The box has a status facility that shows the transmitter name, all the
>> MUXs, signal strength and signal quality on a single screen. If you
>> receive broadcasts for more than one transmitter the information is also
>> shown on multiple status pages. These status pages are ideal for aerial
>> alignment/adjustment.
>
> None of that works once you have rescanned for new channels. And if you
> haven't yet rescanned you can still use the box for watching programmes.
>
My SetPal box is still working fine connected to my TiVo. It has auto-update 
disabled and I haven't manually scanned yet.

It probably has a few channels missing compared to TiVo data, but I can't 
imagine me ever wanting to record these, so currently not a problem.
date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:32:54 +0100   author:   Ian_m

Re: Cheap alignment equipment   
Brian Gaff wrote:
> So does that mean then that its using a stored snap of the old data? Surely 
> when channels alter it will be mega confused. I'd have also thought that a 
> factory reset was possible that would get it to work, albeit incorrectly.
> 
> Brian
> 

It stores mux info (Frequencies etc), and info to identify the program 
streams within the mux, aswell as a few other bits and pieces.

The status screen will only be confused if the Mux frequencies change, 
the mux hopping status screen only looks at the COFDM registers and 
tuner AGC.  ie it doesn't matter what the data is in the mux.

The factory reset will just reset the NVM and you will need to retune, 
which aparently breaks it.

--
Tony
date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:18:08 +0100   author:   Tony

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