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date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 06:53:24 -0700 (PDT),    group: uk.tech.digital-tv        back       
Headphone with TV   
I have been trying to solve this problem fot the last hour with no
success- any help. my father is hard of hearing and needs headphones
to listen to his new Sony Bravia 26b P 30 XXY TV using headphones.
Problem is my Mums hearing is OK, so want the headphones to just
amplify the sound. They bought some Phillips SBC HC 8440 headphone
that came with a jack that fitted into the TV, trouble is that when
plugged  in onle the sound comes through the headphones and no through
the TV(and vice versa), Do I need to buy them more expensive head
phones or can this potion of high sound in heaphones and low on Tv be
achieved ??
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 06:53:24 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: Headphone with TV   
wrote in message 
news:0a9b7e5e-c394-4d45-b21e-a77a74f91293@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>I have been trying to solve this problem fot the last hour with no
> success- any help. my father is hard of hearing and needs headphones
> to listen to his new Sony Bravia 26b P 30 XXY TV using headphones.
> Problem is my Mums hearing is OK, so want the headphones to just
> amplify the sound. They bought some Phillips SBC HC 8440 headphone
> that came with a jack that fitted into the TV, trouble is that when
> plugged  in onle the sound comes through the headphones and no through
> the TV(and vice versa), Do I need to buy them more expensive head
> phones or can this potion of high sound in heaphones and low on Tv be
> achieved ??

I don't know about the Sony, but is there any kind of option the the menu 
that allows you to switch the speaker audio output on or off with the 
headphones plugged in?

On my Philips this is done by using the mute button on the remote switching 
the main speakers on or off and on a Lexor I also own there is a separate 
headphone volume in the main menu.

If the menu option is not available then you will have to try taking the 
audio output from one of the SCART sockets, possibly via phonos to a 3.5mm 
Jack socket.  HTH
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 15:06:09 +0100   author:   Ivan ivan'H'

Re: Headphone with TV   
In article
,
   sndevereux@pensbyboys.wirral.sch.uk
 wrote:
> I have been trying to solve this problem fot the last hour with no
> success- any help. my father is hard of hearing and needs headphones
> to listen to his new Sony Bravia 26b P 30 XXY TV using headphones.
> Problem is my Mums hearing is OK, so want the headphones to just
> amplify the sound. They bought some Phillips SBC HC 8440 headphone
> that came with a jack that fitted into the TV, trouble is that when
> plugged  in onle the sound comes through the headphones and no through
> the TV(and vice versa), Do I need to buy them more expensive head
> phones or can this potion of high sound in heaphones and low on Tv be
> achieved ??

this is a function of the tv set and not the headphones.  It's fairly
normal.

-- 
From KT24 - in "Leafy Surrey"

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11
date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:23:38 +0100   author:   charles

Re: Headphone with TV   
In message 6icsmuFpsjq0U1@mid.individual.net,
Ivan <ivan'H'older@yahoo.co.uk> Proclaimed from the tallest tower:

>  wrote in message
> news:0a9b7e5e-c394-4d45-b21e-a77a74f91293@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>> I have been trying to solve this problem fot the last hour with no
>> success- any help. my father is hard of hearing and needs headphones
>> to listen to his new Sony Bravia 26b P 30 XXY TV using headphones.
>> Problem is my Mums hearing is OK, so want the headphones to just
>> amplify the sound. They bought some Phillips SBC HC 8440 headphone
>> that came with a jack that fitted into the TV, trouble is that when
>> plugged  in onle the sound comes through the headphones and no
>> through the TV(and vice versa), Do I need to buy them more expensive
>> head phones or can this potion of high sound in heaphones and low on
>> Tv be achieved ??
>
> I don't know about the Sony, but is there any kind of option the the
> menu that allows you to switch the speaker audio output on or off
> with the headphones plugged in?
>
> On my Philips this is done by using the mute button on the remote
> switching the main speakers on or off and on a Lexor I also own there
> is a separate headphone volume in the main menu.
>
> If the menu option is not available then you will have to try taking
> the audio output from one of the SCART sockets, possibly via phonos
> to a 3.5mm Jack socket.  HTH

Something like this...(?)

http://djsoundkit.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=T114MB


-- 
Regards,
Chris.
(Remove Elvis's shoes to email me)
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:21:49 +0100   author:   ChrisM

Re: Headphone with TV   
In message e72dnbp0H6860lzVnZ2dnUVZ8tDinZ2d@bt.com,
ChrisM  Proclaimed from the tallest tower:

> In message 6icsmuFpsjq0U1@mid.individual.net,
> Ivan <ivan'H'older@yahoo.co.uk> Proclaimed from the tallest tower:
>
>>  wrote in message
>> news:0a9b7e5e-c394-4d45-b21e-a77a74f91293@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>> I have been trying to solve this problem fot the last hour with no
>>> success- any help. my father is hard of hearing and needs headphones
>>> to listen to his new Sony Bravia 26b P 30 XXY TV using headphones.
>>> Problem is my Mums hearing is OK, so want the headphones to just
>>> amplify the sound. They bought some Phillips SBC HC 8440 headphone
>>> that came with a jack that fitted into the TV, trouble is that when
>>> plugged  in onle the sound comes through the headphones and no
>>> through the TV(and vice versa), Do I need to buy them more expensive
>>> head phones or can this potion of high sound in heaphones and low on
>>> Tv be achieved ??
>>
>> I don't know about the Sony, but is there any kind of option the the
>> menu that allows you to switch the speaker audio output on or off
>> with the headphones plugged in?
>>
>> On my Philips this is done by using the mute button on the remote
>> switching the main speakers on or off and on a Lexor I also own there
>> is a separate headphone volume in the main menu.
>>
>> If the menu option is not available then you will have to try taking
>> the audio output from one of the SCART sockets, possibly via phonos
>> to a 3.5mm Jack socket.  HTH
>
> Something like this...(?)
>
> http://djsoundkit.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=T114MB

Not sure if you'd need active (powered) headphones, or a small headphone 
amplifier to use this?? Or whether the output would be high enough to drive 
a pair of headphones direct. A seperate amplifier would certainly give you 
more flexibility to vary the volume between TV and headphones though.
Oh, and your TV would need to support outputting whatever is currently 
on-screen to one of the SCART sockets.

-- 
Regards,
Chris.
(Remove Elvis's shoes to email me)
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 16:24:43 +0100   author:   ChrisM

Re: Headphone with TV   
In article
,
   sndevereux@pensbyboys.wirral.sch.uk
 wrote:
> I have been trying to solve this problem fot the last hour with no
> success- any help. my father is hard of hearing and needs headphones
> to listen to his new Sony Bravia 26b P 30 XXY TV using headphones.
> Problem is my Mums hearing is OK, so want the headphones to just
> amplify the sound. They bought some Phillips SBC HC 8440 headphone
> that came with a jack that fitted into the TV, trouble is that when
> plugged  in onle the sound comes through the headphones and no through
> the TV(and vice versa), Do I need to buy them more expensive head
> phones or can this potion of high sound in heaphones and low on Tv be
> achieved ??

You'd need a headphone amp fed off the phono outputs on the back of the
set. Then the headphones can be whatever level you like and won't vary
with the TV volume control. Alternately get a set of wireless ones and
plug the transmitter to the same output.

-- 
*Seen it all, done it all, can't remember most of it*

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.
date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:44:57 +0100   author:   Dave Plowman (News)

Re: Headphone with TV   
wrote in message 
news:0a9b7e5e-c394-4d45-b21e-a77a74f91293@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>I have been trying to solve this problem fot the last hour with no
> success- any help. my father is hard of hearing and needs headphones
> to listen to his new Sony Bravia 26b P 30 XXY TV using headphones.
> Problem is my Mums hearing is OK, so want the headphones to just
> amplify the sound. They bought some Phillips SBC HC 8440 headphone
> that came with a jack that fitted into the TV, trouble is that when
> plugged  in onle the sound comes through the headphones and no through
> the TV(and vice versa), Do I need to buy them more expensive head
> phones or can this potion of high sound in heaphones and low on Tv be
> achieved ??


Hi,


Sony's used to have separate volume level controls for speakers and 
headphone outputs. That should help in balancing the levels.

What you may find useful in getting both speakers and headphones to operate 
at the same time is partially inserting the headphone plug. I.e. often the 
audio circuit will connect when the plug is only "half-in" and not yet have 
disabled the speakers. This is obviously fairly far from ideal and would 
likely mean the set-up would be sensitive to the lead being pulled or moved.

Equally, you may well find that it is not possible to configure the correct 
balance of headphone vs. speaker volume (i.e. headphones loud - speakers 
normal). In such case you will likely need some powered headphones, small or 
separate amplifier for the headphones etc. and probably will need to use one 
of the alternative outputs from the TV as suggested by several other posters 
(e.g. phono out, SCART output routed through to an amplifier via phono plugs 
or direct to powered headphones via a SCART to 3.5mm audio connector, etc.).

Hope some of this helps.


Good luck and best wishes,



News Reader


P.s. If your parents have just bought this TV and possibly mentioned the 
desired usage scenario or if the company you bought it from provides a money 
back guarantee type facility, you may well be able to take the TV back and 
find one that more helpfully fits the requirement.
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:50:05 +0100   author:   News Reader lid

Re: Headphone with TV   
"Dave Plowman (News)"  wrote in message 
news:4fda1e3749dave@davenoise.co.uk...
> In article
> ,
>   sndevereux@pensbyboys.wirral.sch.uk
>  wrote:
>> I have been trying to solve this problem fot the last hour with no
>> success- any help. my father is hard of hearing and needs headphones
>> to listen to his new Sony Bravia 26b P 30 XXY TV using headphones.
>> Problem is my Mums hearing is OK, so want the headphones to just
>> amplify the sound. They bought some Phillips SBC HC 8440 headphone
>> that came with a jack that fitted into the TV, trouble is that when
>> plugged  in onle the sound comes through the headphones and no through
>> the TV(and vice versa), Do I need to buy them more expensive head
>> phones or can this potion of high sound in heaphones and low on Tv be
>> achieved ??
>
> You'd need a headphone amp fed off the phono outputs on the back of the
> set. Then the headphones can be whatever level you like and won't vary
> with the TV volume control. Alternately get a set of wireless ones and
> plug the transmitter to the same output.
>

The Phillips SBC HC8440 headphones are wireless, I have a similar set 
(HC8445) and they work fine with a SCART phono breakout adapter as they have 
their own built in volume control.


> -- 
> *Seen it all, done it all, can't remember most of it*
>
>    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
>                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:56:05 +0100   author:   Ivan ivan'H'

Re: Headphone with TV   
In message , ChrisM 
 writes
>In message e72dnbp0H6860lzVnZ2dnUVZ8tDinZ2d@bt.com,
>ChrisM  Proclaimed from the tallest tower:
>
>> In message 6icsmuFpsjq0U1@mid.individual.net,
>> Ivan <ivan'H'older@yahoo.co.uk> Proclaimed from the tallest tower:
>>
>>>  wrote in message
>>> news:0a9b7e5e-c394-4d45-b21e-a77a74f91293@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
>>>> I have been trying to solve this problem fot the last hour with no
>>>> success- any help. my father is hard of hearing and needs headphones
>>>> to listen to his new Sony Bravia 26b P 30 XXY TV using headphones.
>>>> Problem is my Mums hearing is OK, so want the headphones to just
>>>> amplify the sound. They bought some Phillips SBC HC 8440 headphone
>>>> that came with a jack that fitted into the TV, trouble is that when
>>>> plugged  in onle the sound comes through the headphones and no
>>>> through the TV(and vice versa), Do I need to buy them more expensive
>>>> head phones or can this potion of high sound in heaphones and low on
>>>> Tv be achieved ??
>>>
>>> I don't know about the Sony, but is there any kind of option the the
>>> menu that allows you to switch the speaker audio output on or off
>>> with the headphones plugged in?
>>>
>>> On my Philips this is done by using the mute button on the remote
>>> switching the main speakers on or off and on a Lexor I also own there
>>> is a separate headphone volume in the main menu.
>>>
>>> If the menu option is not available then you will have to try taking
>>> the audio output from one of the SCART sockets, possibly via phonos
>>> to a 3.5mm Jack socket.  HTH
>>
>> Something like this...(?)
>>
>> http://djsoundkit.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=T114MB
>
>Not sure if you'd need active (powered) headphones, or a small headphone
>amplifier to use this?? Or whether the output would be high enough to drive
>a pair of headphones direct. A seperate amplifier would certainly give you
>more flexibility to vary the volume between TV and headphones though.
>Oh, and your TV would need to support outputting whatever is currently
>on-screen to one of the SCART sockets.
>
I have the same problem here, but with one 'small' difference - I am the 
one who cannot hear as well as the lady of the house.

My solution is to use an infra red cordless headphone set (Sony 
MDR-IF140K). The 'sender' unit is connected using a pair of Phono 
sockets that are available on the back of my receiver.

If these are not available to the O.P., could a SCART to Phono adapter 
be used?

I find that this Sony unit performs better than the 2 different types of 
R.F. cordless headphone sets I had previously tried. (Multi-path was the 
greatest annoyance with both.)

The much shorter range of the I.R. system prevents me from hearing the 
television in the garden, or even at the end of the road, but then I 
cannot think of when or why I should want to do this

It is a joy to listen to sound as loud as I need/want using the 'gain' 
control on one earpiece, whilst SWMBO can listen at her desired, almost 
inaudible to me, level from the receiver speakers. The only downside is 
the audio mute button on the receiver's remote control does not mute the 
Phono output. Muting adverts requires a different response!

I have no problems using this cordless headphone set, even when using 
hearing aids in both ears.

The AAA battery in one earpiece seems to last for months of intermittent 
use.

-- 
John Ames
date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 18:20:52 +0100   author:   John

Re: Headphone with TV   
sndevereux@pensbyboys.wirral.sch.uk wrote:
> I have been trying to solve this problem fot the last hour with no
> success- any help. my father is hard of hearing and needs headphones
> to listen to his new Sony Bravia 26b P 30 XXY TV using headphones.
> Problem is my Mums hearing is OK, so want the headphones to just
> amplify the sound. They bought some Phillips SBC HC 8440 headphone
> that came with a jack that fitted into the TV, trouble is that when
> plugged  in onle the sound comes through the headphones and no through
> the TV(and vice versa), Do I need to buy them more expensive head
> phones or can this potion of high sound in heaphones and low on Tv be
> achieved ??


If it's the same as my Bravia, go to the Loudspeaker Settings in the Set Up 
menu, set 'Headphone Link' to 'Off', and then the remote control will control 
the TV's own speaker volume, and a bar graph as part of the 'Headphone Link' 
menu controls the headphone's level independently.

-- 
Mark
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date: Fri, 05 Sep 2008 19:34:43 +0100   author:   Mark Carver lid

Re: Headphone with TV   
"Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
news:6idcduFq6515U2@mid.individual.net...
> sndevereux@pensbyboys.wirral.sch.uk wrote:
> If it's the same as my Bravia, go to the Loudspeaker Settings in the Set 
> Up menu, set 'Headphone Link' to 'Off', and then the remote control will 
> control the TV's own speaker volume, and a bar graph as part of the 
> 'Headphone Link' menu controls the headphone's level independently.

That's clever.

Bill
date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 00:57:23 +0100   author:   Bill Wright

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