On 27 Aug 2008 07:51:21 GMT, tinnews@isbd.co.uk wrote:

>Steve Terry  wrote:
>> I don't think anyone can, if you accept that it is a simple fact that 
>> immigrant
>> Orthodox believers have at least two children for every one that protestant,
>> or secular believers have?
>> Then it's a matter of simple arithmetic that one day British protestant,
>> and secular believers will become a minority in their own land!
>> 
>Like Celtic Christians are now "in their own land", or Picts "in their
>own land", or any race at all that preceded "us" in the British Isles.

I was told that it was when the Romans ( who were the first force to invade
"England" )  the then inhabitants fled to the area we now call Wales -
Hence it is the SC4 watching Welsh who are the "Real English"

Is  Bill (in his ex-teacher role)  able to confirm this ?

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> On 27 Aug 2008 07:51:21 GMT, tinnews@isbd.co.uk wrote:
>
>>Steve Terry  wrote:
>>> I don't think anyone can, if you accept that it is a simple fact that
>>> immigrant
>>> Orthodox believers have at least two children for every one that 
>>> protestant,
>>> or secular believers have?
>>> Then it's a matter of simple arithmetic that one day British protestant,
>>> and secular believers will become a minority in their own land!
>>>
>>Like Celtic Christians are now "in their own land", or Picts "in their
>>own land", or any race at all that preceded "us" in the British Isles.
>
> I was told that it was when the Romans ( who were the first force to 
> invade
> "England" )  the then inhabitants fled to the area we now call Wales -
> Hence it is the SC4 watching Welsh who are the "Real English"
>
> Is  Bill (in his ex-teacher role)  able to confirm this ?

Don't ask me. My teaching career is almost as long ago as the Roman 
invasion.

That reminds me. I took my dad to have a look round the Merchant 
Adventurers' Hall in York. This building has a great deal of 15th C woodwork 
on display, which father peered at very closely. A curator looked at him 
with curiousity. I whispered, "He was the Clerk of Works on this job. He's 
just wondering how it's lasting."

Bill

On Thu, 4 Sep 2008 03:18:04 +0100, "Bill Wright"
 wrote:

>
>"me" <me@example.invalid> wrote in message 
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>> On 27 Aug 2008 07:51:21 GMT, tinnews@isbd.co.uk wrote:
>>
>>>Steve Terry  wrote:
>>>> I don't think anyone can, if you accept that it is a simple fact that
>>>> immigrant
>>>> Orthodox believers have at least two children for every one that 
>>>> protestant,
>>>> or secular believers have?
>>>> Then it's a matter of simple arithmetic that one day British protestant,
>>>> and secular believers will become a minority in their own land!
>>>>
>>>Like Celtic Christians are now "in their own land", or Picts "in their
>>>own land", or any race at all that preceded "us" in the British Isles.
>>
>> I was told that it was when the Romans ( who were the first force to 
>> invade
>> "England" )  the then inhabitants fled to the area we now call Wales -
>> Hence it is the SC4 watching Welsh who are the "Real English"
>>
>> Is  Bill (in his ex-teacher role)  able to confirm this ?
>
>Don't ask me. My teaching career is almost as long ago as the Roman 
>invasion.
>
>That reminds me. I took my dad to have a look round the Merchant 
>Adventurers' Hall in York. This building has a great deal of 15th C woodwork 
>on display, which father peered at very closely. A curator looked at him 
>with curiousity. I whispered, "He was the Clerk of Works on this job. He's 
>just wondering how it's lasting."
>
Excellent! My first real "laugh out loud" for weeks.

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> On 27 Aug 2008 07:51:21 GMT, tinnews@isbd.co.uk wrote:
>>Steve Terry  wrote:
>>> I don't think anyone can, if you accept that it is a simple fact that
>>> immigrant
>>> Orthodox believers have at least two children for every one that 
>>> protestant,
>>> or secular believers have?
>>> Then it's a matter of simple arithmetic that one day British protestant,
>>> and secular believers will become a minority in their own land!
>>>
>>Like Celtic Christians are now "in their own land", or Picts "in their
>>own land", or any race at all that preceded "us" in the British Isles.
>
> I was told that it was when the Romans ( who were the first force to 
> invade
> "England" )  the then inhabitants fled to the area we now call Wales -
> Hence it is the SC4 watching Welsh who are the "Real English"
>
> Is  Bill (in his ex-teacher role)  able to confirm this ?
>
>
Ancient Britains, English is from the later Anglo Saxons from north Germany
who moved in after the Romans left

Steve Terry

"Peter Duncanson"  wrote in message 
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>>That reminds me. I took my dad to have a look round the Merchant
>>Adventurers' Hall in York. This building has a great deal of 15th C 
>>woodwork
>>on display, which father peered at very closely. A curator looked at him
>>with curiousity. I whispered, "He was the Clerk of Works on this job. He's
>>just wondering how it's lasting."
>>
> Excellent! My first real "laugh out loud" for weeks.

Ahh, it was a good thing taking him there. He worked on large scale joinery 
before and after the war, and he was fascinated. He was able to explain all 
sorts of stuff about the woodwork. Interesting that some of the basic 
techniques haven't changed in 600 years.

Read this:
http://www.scalefour.org/resources/Wagon%20shops.html

I'm very proud of him for writing this. He isn't a literary gent.

Bill