Sorry Bill,
         I get all formal at this time in a morning!
Knowing that you have an interest in such things I took a few photos of
a Sat TV rack that I came across recently while working on a PMR radio
system.  From the front it looked reasonable, the rear was not so pretty
though.  It looks as though they had problems with over heating and so
had added a fan.  As there was no provision to get the cables in and out
they had taken them through a few spare holes in the back door, shame as
this meant that the door would no longer shut and so the fan was no
longer blowing into the rack.  It isn't shown in the photos but the
cables from the rack are so short that it is almost impossible to move
it anywhere. Pity because they are not the only users of the room and
some of us need to get behind their kit to get to ours!

PS if the person that put this rack together is reading this, your fan
bearings are failing, it was making a horrendous noise.

http://s117.photobucket.com/albums/o63/G8IAY/

-- 
Bill

Fan bearings? What bearings....:-)

Brian

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"Bill"  wrote in message 
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> Sorry Bill,
>         I get all formal at this time in a morning!
> Knowing that you have an interest in such things I took a few photos of
> a Sat TV rack that I came across recently while working on a PMR radio
> system.  From the front it looked reasonable, the rear was not so pretty
> though.  It looks as though they had problems with over heating and so
> had added a fan.  As there was no provision to get the cables in and out
> they had taken them through a few spare holes in the back door, shame as
> this meant that the door would no longer shut and so the fan was no
> longer blowing into the rack.  It isn't shown in the photos but the
> cables from the rack are so short that it is almost impossible to move
> it anywhere. Pity because they are not the only users of the room and
> some of us need to get behind their kit to get to ours!
>
> PS if the person that put this rack together is reading this, your fan
> bearings are failing, it was making a horrendous noise.
>
> http://s117.photobucket.com/albums/o63/G8IAY/
>
> -- 
> Bill

On 28 Aug, 01:52, Bill  wrote:
> Sorry Bill,
>          I get all formal at this time in a morning!
> Knowing that you have an interest in such things I took a few photos of
> a Sat TV rack that I came across recently while working on a PMR radio
> system.

What is a PMR radio system?


>
> PS if the person that put this rack together is reading this, your fan
> bearings are failing, it was making a horrendous noise.
>
> http://s117.photobucket.com/albums/o63/G8IAY/

This is clearly not a domestic system!  What is all that equipment
meant to do?

John

>
> --
> Bill

In article <701d8c5b-7702-4f37-9996-57a54f7c43c9
@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, bronson69@gmail.com says...
> On 28 Aug, 01:52, Bill  wrote:
> > Sorry Bill,
> >          I get all formal at this time in a morning!
> > Knowing that you have an interest in such things I took a few photos of
> > a Sat TV rack that I came across recently while working on a PMR radio
> > system.
> 
> What is a PMR radio system?

Private mobile radio


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"Jim Mason"  wrote in message 
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In article <701d8c5b-7702-4f37-9996-57a54f7c43c9
@j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, bronson69@gmail.com says...
> On 28 Aug, 01:52, Bill  wrote:
> > Sorry Bill,
>> > I get all formal at this time in a morning!
>> > Knowing that you have an interest in such things I took a few photos of
>> > a Sat TV rack that I came across recently while working on a PMR radio
>> > system.
>>
>> What is a PMR radio system?
>
>Private mobile radio
>
>
Now called PBR, cos the idiots called 446CB, 446PMR

Steve Terry

In message 
, 
JOHN PORCELLA  writes
>
>What is a PMR radio system?

Private Mobile Radio,   Walkie talkies to some, I have a couple of 
repeater bases screwed to the wall in the room, the cabinet in the photo 
had been placed so as to block access to these.

>This is clearly not a domestic system!  What is all that equipment
>meant to do?

It is the TV distribution system in a VERY expensive hotel / club. 
Better than it was though, it used to be 4 Sky receivers stacked one 
above the other on a shelf with some pieces of wood keeping them apart 
in an attempt to give some ventilation.

>
>John

-- 
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"Steve Terry"  wrote in message 
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> "Jim Mason"  wrote in message 
> news:MPG.2320a0ca2e97f2dd9899bb@news.individual.net...
> In article <701d8c5b-7702-4f37-9996-57a54f7c43c9
> @j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, bronson69@gmail.com says...
>> On 28 Aug, 01:52, Bill  wrote:
>> > Sorry Bill,
>>> > I get all formal at this time in a morning!
>>> > Knowing that you have an interest in such things I took a few photos 
>>> > of
>>> > a Sat TV rack that I came across recently while working on a PMR radio
>>> > system.
>>>
>>> What is a PMR radio system?
>>
>>Private mobile radio
>>
>>
> Now called PBR, cos the idiots called 446CB, 446PMR

I don't think that confused anyone (that mattered).
What does PBR stand for? I haven't come across it before.

-- 
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 scribeth thus
>
>
>"Steve Terry"  wrote in message 
>news:g96fef$mt1$1@news.albasani.net...
>> "Jim Mason"  wrote in message 
>> news:MPG.2320a0ca2e97f2dd9899bb@news.individual.net...
>> In article <701d8c5b-7702-4f37-9996-57a54f7c43c9
>> @j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, bronson69@gmail.com says...
>>> On 28 Aug, 01:52, Bill  wrote:
>>> > Sorry Bill,
>>>> > I get all formal at this time in a morning!
>>>> > Knowing that you have an interest in such things I took a few photos 
>>>> > of
>>>> > a Sat TV rack that I came across recently while working on a PMR radio
>>>> > system.
>>>>
>>>> What is a PMR radio system?
>>>
>>>Private mobile radio
>>>
>>>
>> Now called PBR, cos the idiots called 446CB, 446PMR
>
>I don't think that confused anyone (that mattered).
>What does PBR stand for? I haven't come across it before.
>

Private Business Radio i.e. a radio system thats owned and operated by
the user like Taxi companies and the like. 

Another way of saying PMR;)..

Going out of fashion nowadays but for some applications does serve very
well:)..
-- 
Tony Sayer

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from Jim Mason  contains these words:

> In article <701d8c5b-7702-4f37-9996-57a54f7c43c9
> @j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, bronson69@gmail.com says...
> > On 28 Aug, 01:52, Bill  wrote:
> > > Sorry Bill,
> > >          I get all formal at this time in a morning!
> > > Knowing that you have an interest in such things I took a few photos of
> > > a Sat TV rack that I came across recently while working on a PMR radio
> > > system.
> > 
> > What is a PMR radio system?

> Private mobile radio

 In which case the phrase "a PMR radio system" is a tautology(?) since
the acronym PMR already includes the word 'radio'. More concisely it
should have been expressed as "a PMR system". Don't worry you're in good
company. A classic example is the phrase "Built on NT Technology" in the
windows 2000 startup screen. The microsoft acronym "NT" is _supposed_ to
stand for "Network Technology"[1]

[1] I emphasized the word 'supposed' since the wags in the PC trade tend
to assign alternatives such as "Nice Try" and "Not Tested", which would
actually scan better in the presence of the word 'Technology'.

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> A classic example is the phrase "Built on NT Technology"

The other favourite must be "PIN number".

SteveT

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:23:24 +0100, Bill 
wrote:

>In message 
>, 
>JOHN PORCELLA  writes
>>
>>What is a PMR radio system?
>
>Private Mobile Radio,   Walkie talkies to some, I have a couple of 
>repeater bases screwed to the wall in the room, the cabinet in the photo 
>had been placed so as to block access to these.
>
>>This is clearly not a domestic system!  What is all that equipment
>>meant to do?
>
>It is the TV distribution system in a VERY expensive hotel / club. 
>Better than it was though, it used to be 4 Sky receivers stacked one 
>above the other on a shelf with some pieces of wood keeping them apart 
>in an attempt to give some ventilation.
>
>>
>>John

Looks like Mr. Wright's on holiday again.  Gets paid way too much
y'know ;-)


Marky P.

In message , Steve Thackery 
 writes
>> A classic example is the phrase "Built on NT Technology"
>
>The other favourite must be "PIN number".
>
>SteveT

Also "VIN number".
-- 
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>> A classic example is the phrase "Built on NT Technology"
>
> The other favourite must be "PIN number".

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAS_syndrome

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> The message 
> from Jim Mason  contains these words:
>
>> In article <701d8c5b-7702-4f37-9996-57a54f7c43c9
>> @j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, bronson69@gmail.com says...
>> > On 28 Aug, 01:52, Bill  wrote:
>> > > Sorry Bill,
>> > > Â Â Â Â Â I get all formal at this time in a morning!
>> > > Knowing that you have an interest in such things I took a few photos 
>> > > of
>> > > a Sat TV rack that I came across recently while working on a PMR 
>> > > radio
>> > > system.
>> >
>> > What is a PMR radio system?
>
>> Private mobile radio
>
> In which case the phrase "a PMR radio system" is a tautology(?) since
> the acronym PMR already includes the word 'radio'. More concisely it
> should have been expressed as "a PMR system". Don't worry you're in good
> company. A classic example is the phrase "Built on NT Technology" in the
> windows 2000 startup screen. The microsoft acronym "NT" is _supposed_ to
> stand for "Network Technology"[1]
>
NT = New Technology

"Ian"  wrote in message
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> In message , Steve Thackery
>  writes
> >> A classic example is the phrase "Built on NT Technology"
> >
> >The other favourite must be "PIN number".
> >
> >SteveT
>
> Also "VIN number".

Or Lloyds TSB Bank.

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> > The message 
> > from Jim Mason  contains these words:
> >
> >> In article <701d8c5b-7702-4f37-9996-57a54f7c43c9
> >> @j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, bronson69@gmail.com says...
> >> > On 28 Aug, 01:52, Bill  wrote:
> >> > > Sorry Bill,
> >> > > Â Â Â Â Â I get all formal at this time in a morning!
> >> > > Knowing that you have an interest in such things I took a few photos 
> >> > > of
> >> > > a Sat TV rack that I came across recently while working on a PMR 
> >> > > radio
> >> > > system.
> >> >
> >> > What is a PMR radio system?
> >
> >> Private mobile radio
> >
> > In which case the phrase "a PMR radio system" is a tautology(?) since
> > the acronym PMR already includes the word 'radio'. More concisely it
> > should have been expressed as "a PMR system". Don't worry you're in good
> > company. A classic example is the phrase "Built on NT Technology" in the
> > windows 2000 startup screen. The microsoft acronym "NT" is _supposed_ to
> > stand for "Network Technology"[1]
> >
> NT = New Technology

 That too! However, "New" very often turns old in rather short order, so
if an alternative is handy for the "New" bit of the acronym, it very
quietly becomes that in its stead (in this case, "Network" :-). Anyway,
that doesn't alter the tautological error.

 Out of the alternatives, "Nice Try" is my favourite since it's clear
that that's about as close as microsoft are likely to get in creating a
robust no nonsense OS.

 The overall impression I get from looking at the GUI of its "Idiot Son"
offspring (WinXP) is "Paedophile". Vista (aka "Vasti"), otoh, appears to
be aimed at people in need of adult supervision.

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Johnny B Good wrote:
>> NT = New Technology
> 
>  That too!

That only.

And it is surely coincidence that Dave Cutler, the chief designer moved 
from _V_M_S_ at DEC to _W_indows _N_ew _T_echnology...

Andy

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[...]

>> NT = New Technology
>
> That too! However, "New" very often turns old in rather short order, so
> if an alternative is handy for the "New" bit of the acronym, it very
> quietly becomes that in its stead (in this case, "Network" :-). Anyway,
> that doesn't alter the tautological error.

Not a problem for the New Forest. ('New' in William the Bastard's day and 
not a forest in the modern sense, as it has very few trees.

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> Johnny B Good wrote:
> >> NT = New Technology
> > 
> >  That too!

> That only.

> And it is surely coincidence that Dave Cutler, the chief designer moved 
> from _V_M_S_ at DEC to _W_indows _N_ew _T_echnology...

 Ok then. I sit corrected... but it's still a tautology! :-)

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On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 02:56:37 +0100, Johnny B Good
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>The message 
>from Jim Mason  contains these words:
>
>> In article <701d8c5b-7702-4f37-9996-57a54f7c43c9
>> @j22g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>, bronson69@gmail.com says...
>> > On 28 Aug, 01:52, Bill  wrote:
>> > > Sorry Bill,
>> > >          I get all formal at this time in a morning!
>> > > Knowing that you have an interest in such things I took a few photos of
>> > > a Sat TV rack that I came across recently while working on a PMR radio
>> > > system.
>> > 
>> > What is a PMR radio system?
>
>> Private mobile radio
>
> In which case the phrase "a PMR radio system" is a tautology(?) since
>the acronym PMR already includes the word 'radio'. More concisely it
>should have been expressed as "a PMR system". Don't worry you're in good
>company. A classic example is the phrase "Built on NT Technology" in the
>windows 2000 startup screen. The microsoft acronym "NT" is _supposed_ to
>stand for "Network Technology"[1]

Similarly being asked to enter your PIN number at a supermarket
checkout
-- 
Cheers

Peter

"Marky P"  wrote in message 
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> Looks like Mr. Wright's on holiday again.  Gets paid way too much
> y'know ;-)
>
>
> Marky P.

Shut yer gob you!

Cheers

Bill

"Bill"  wrote in message 
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> Sorry Bill,
>         I get all formal at this time in a morning!
> Knowing that you have an interest in such things I took a few photos of
> a Sat TV rack that I came across recently while working on a PMR radio
> system.  From the front it looked reasonable, the rear was not so pretty
> though.  It looks as though they had problems with over heating and so
> had added a fan.  As there was no provision to get the cables in and out
> they had taken them through a few spare holes in the back door, shame as
> this meant that the door would no longer shut and so the fan was no
> longer blowing into the rack.  It isn't shown in the photos but the
> cables from the rack are so short that it is almost impossible to move
> it anywhere. Pity because they are not the only users of the room and
> some of us need to get behind their kit to get to ours!
>
> PS if the person that put this rack together is reading this, your fan
> bearings are failing, it was making a horrendous noise.
>
> http://s117.photobucket.com/albums/o63/G8IAY/

Comments:

1. Why people buy expensive racks and then use them as shelf units I don't 
know. A £17 shelf unit from B & Q would have been just as good. I mean, that 
fan can't be doing any good and I bet they never shut the front door anyway.

2. At least they've used channel filter/levellers to filter/combine the sat 
box outputs. But no UHF amps before the filters, so by the time the signals 
hit the main amps they will be dangerously low.

3. Are those things at the bottom the multiswitches? They look like the old 
Global ones that only handle H/V and don't bandswitch. Surely not.

4. It's a typical untidy 'no-pride-in-the-job' couldn't give a shit 
installation.

5. It's the custom when exhibiting photographs to other members of this 
forum to include a set of highly embarassing shots in another album, so 
members can find them and have a good laugh at your spotty bum, etc. You 
appear to have omitted this essential formality.

Bill

In message , Bill Wright 
 writes
>Comments:
>
>1. Why people buy expensive racks and then use them as shelf units I don't
>know. A £17 shelf unit from B & Q would have been just as good. I mean, that
>fan can't be doing any good and I bet they never shut the front door anyway.

>
>2. At least they've used channel filter/levellers to filter/combine the sat
>box outputs. But no UHF amps before the filters, so by the time the signals
>hit the main amps they will be dangerously low.
>
>3. Are those things at the bottom the multiswitches? They look like the old
>Global ones that only handle H/V and don't bandswitch. Surely not.
>
>4. It's a typical untidy 'no-pride-in-the-job' couldn't give a shit
>installation.
>
>5. It's the custom when exhibiting photographs to other members of this
>forum to include a set of highly embarassing shots in another album, so
>members can find them and have a good laugh at your spotty bum, etc. You
>appear to have omitted this essential formality.
>
>Bill
>
>


I'm not sure what the various items are, more your line of expertise 
than mine, also I was scared of moving it too far! there were a number 
of lengths of CAT5 running very tightly to a hole in the wall that were 
so short the rack couldn't go too far........

The fan was crazy, it would have provided some air movement if the door 
had been shut, but as the door couldn't shut it was doing bu**er all.

I must apologise about the photos, I'll slip a few suitable ones in next 
time.

-- 
Bill

On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 23:24:27 +0100, "Bill Wright"
 wrote:

>
>"Marky P"  wrote in message 
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>> Looks like Mr. Wright's on holiday again.  Gets paid way too much
>> y'know ;-)
>>
>>
>> Marky P.
>
>Shut yer gob you!
>
>Cheers
>
>Bill 
>
Normal service has been resumed ;-)


Marky P.

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> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 23:24:27 +0100, "Bill Wright"
>  wrote:
>
>>
>>"Marky P"  wrote in message
>>news:b7nfb457kmi5c5e5ccjrlfbuugot3eu3hq@4ax.com...
>>> Looks like Mr. Wright's on holiday again.  Gets paid way too much
>>> y'know ;-)
>>>
>>>
>>> Marky P.
>>
>>Shut yer gob you!
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>Bill
>>
> Normal service has been resumed ;-)

I've been taking my old dad round York. Broadened his horizons somewhat!

Bill