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date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 11:46:17 +0100,    group: uk.tech.digital-tv        back       
Prob OT Plasma versa LCD   
I suspect this is either ot or has been done to death here. I am 
thinking of upgrading to hd tv and flat screen. I know the difference in 
technology between the plasma and LCD, but what are the pros and cons 
from the consumers view point? I have tried googling but not yet found a 
succinct answer. If any one would point me to the site for information I 
would be grateful.
date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 11:46:17 +0100   author:   Broadback

Re: Prob OT Plasma versa LCD   
You're right, people breezing in and asking for advice on choosing TVs
has been done to death here (but you're welcome nonetheless), so much
so that I thought it would be easier to do a web-page on it:
	http://tinyurl.com/5srngy
... standing in for ...
http://www.cemh.eclipse.co.uk/JavaJive/AudioVisualTV/ChooseTV/ChooseTV.html

You may also find these background notes useful, or not ...
	http://tinyurl.com/5r73m4
... standing in for ...
http://www.cemh.eclipse.co.uk/JavaJive/AudioVisualTV/TVInTheUK/TVInTheUK.html

HTHs

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 11:46:17 +0100, Broadback 
wrote:

> I suspect this is either ot or has been done to death here. I am 
> thinking of upgrading to hd tv and flat screen. I know the difference in 
> technology between the plasma and LCD, but what are the pros and cons 
> from the consumers view point? I have tried googling but not yet found a 
> succinct answer. If any one would point me to the site for information I 
> would be grateful.
date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 12:08:16 +0100   author:   Java Jive

Re: Prob OT Plasma versa LCD   
On 24 Aug, 11:46, Broadback  wrote:
> I suspect this is either ot or has been done to death here. I am
> thinking of upgrading to hd tv and flat screen. I know the difference in
> technology between the plasma and LCD, but what are the pros and cons
> from the consumers view point? I have tried googling but not yet found a
> succinct answer. If any one would point me to the site for information I
> would be grateful.

you may care to check the thread
LCD or Plasma Preference
dated 15 july for some comment and discussion from the users of this
group

hope this helps

fsol
date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 06:24:55 -0700 (PDT)   author:   unknown

Re: Prob OT Plasma versa LCD   
"Broadback"  wrote in message 
news:6hcsftFisrhrU1@mid.individual.net...
>I suspect this is either ot or has been done to death here. I am thinking 
>of upgrading to hd tv and flat screen. I know the difference in technology 
>between the plasma and LCD, but what are the pros and cons from the 
>consumers view point? I have tried googling but not yet found a succinct 
>answer. If any one would point me to the site for information I would be 
>grateful.

Plasma - first generation flat screen.

For - viewing angle, colour rendition.

Against - low resolution (except very big screens), weight, heat, fade.


LCD - second generation

For - high resolution, flexibility, cost.

Against - colour accuracy, viewing angle (though improving).

OLED - coming soon

For low weight, emissive, scalable..

Against - durability.
date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:38:16 +0100   author:   R. Mark Clayton

Re: Prob OT Plasma versa LCD   
Well, I overheard a discussion of some of that rare breed the bbc engineers 
on a talkback channel a while back, and as far as I coould tell, they were 
slagging off plasma for..
Having bubbling dark areas, easy to burn images, took too much power, and 
caused loads of interference which could be picked up on other equipment 
like radio mikes.

LCD seemed to get the vote, but there you are, I guess if you are using 
these things as monitors, you have slightly different usage paterns!

Brian

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 wrote in message 
news:54916766-b66e-4a94-93ce-3e55e25d08b6@26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
> On 24 Aug, 11:46, Broadback  wrote:
>> I suspect this is either ot or has been done to death here. I am
>> thinking of upgrading to hd tv and flat screen. I know the difference in
>> technology between the plasma and LCD, but what are the pros and cons
>> from the consumers view point? I have tried googling but not yet found a
>> succinct answer. If any one would point me to the site for information I
>> would be grateful.
>
> you may care to check the thread
> LCD or Plasma Preference
> dated 15 july for some comment and discussion from the users of this
> group
>
> hope this helps
>
> fsol
date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 20:39:07 GMT   author:   Brian Gaff

Re: Prob OT Plasma versa LCD   
R. Mark Clayton wrote:
> OLED - coming soon
> 
<snip>
> 
> Against - durability.

Do you have a reason to suggest that?  Or is it just because the 1st gen 
of *any* technology is flakey?

Andy
date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:27:44 +0100   author:   Andy Champ

Re: Prob OT Plasma versa LCD   
> Do you have a reason to suggest that?  Or is it just because the 1st gen 
> of *any* technology is flakey?

Well, I like to keep up with these things where I can, and there does seem 
to be a consensus amongst the articles and reports I've read that longevity 
is still a significant problem for OLED.  Apparently the blue is the worst.

The top tech guy at Panasonic said recently that he didn't expect to see 
OLEDs get big in the TV market until 2015.

SteveT
date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 22:34:57 +0100   author:   Steve Thackery

Re: Prob OT Plasma versa LCD   
Steve Thackery wrote:
>> Do you have a reason to suggest that?  Or is it just because the 1st 
>> gen of *any* technology is flakey?
> 
> Well, I like to keep up with these things where I can, and there does 
> seem to be a consensus amongst the articles and reports I've read that 
> longevity is still a significant problem for OLED.  Apparently the blue 
> is the worst.
> 
> The top tech guy at Panasonic said recently that he didn't expect to see 
> OLEDs get big in the TV market until 2015.
> 

That fits the early days of silicon LEDs - the blues were flakey as 
heck.  Since I'll be buying a million or so of them I don't want any 
noticable failure rate!

Shame that though because 2015 is past DSO and I'm fairly sure I'll have 
to replace my telly before then if only for the 16:9 screen!

Thanks

Andy
date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 19:48:02 +0100   author:   Andy Champ

Re: Prob OT Plasma versa LCD   
R. Mark Clayton wrote:
> "Broadback"  wrote in message
> news:6hcsftFisrhrU1@mid.individual.net...
>> I suspect this is either ot or has been done to death here. I am
>> thinking of upgrading to hd tv and flat screen. I know the
>> difference in technology between the plasma and LCD, but what are
>> the pros and cons from the consumers view point? I have tried
>> googling but not yet found a succinct answer. If any one would point
>> me to the site for information I would be grateful.
>
> Plasma - first generation flat screen.
>
> For - viewing angle, colour rendition.
>
> Against - low resolution (except very big screens), weight, heat,
> fade.

First generation?  I thought the current Pioneer and Panasonic panels were 
8th generation now.  The plasmas that came out 10 years ago are nothing in 
comparison to modern panels.  Same goes for LCD.  You missed off excellent 
black levels in the for column.  I wouldn't put low res in there at all, odd 
res more like.  You can't get less than a 37 inch plasma which might be an 
issue.  The Panasonic 37 inch is some weird res - 1024xsomething.  The 42s 
are 1920x1080.

>
>
> LCD - second generation
>
> For - high resolution, flexibility, cost.
>
> Against - colour accuracy, viewing angle (though improving).
>
> OLED - coming soon
>
> For low weight, emissive, scalable..
>
> Against - durability.

OLED is not coming soon at a price your average consumer would be willing to 
pay in comparison to the same size LCD.  LCD panels are also in something 
like their 8th generation now.  You missed off motion blur from the 
against - if you can see it of course, makes my eyes hurt.  LCDs if anything 
are more durable than plasmas.  If the backlight goes in an LCD you can 
replace it (probably at huge cost) but all you can do with a plasma is 
replace the entire screen.

-- 

WCZ
date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:28:39 +0100   author:   WCZ

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