I was going to ask a question on here why some channels still
broadcast in 4:3 on sat. One of the most popular in my household being
Nick Jr.

I always had these streched to 16:9 on my telly anyway as the nipper
doesn't mind a fatter Fat Controller when watching his favourite
program.

I now notice (correct me if I'm wrong) that they are broadcasting in
widescreen with black bars left & right with the 4:3 picture in the
middle. I've noticed this on Nick Jr., Discovery & I was unfortunate
enough to tune into an old episode of Keeping up Appearances on BBC1
which was like this also.

This leads to weird effects with programmes that have been made 4:3
with black bars top & bottom (Mythbusters is a good example), they
appear with a nick black frame all around.

My aging Panasonic is definately set to 16:9 on these channels which
the OSD confirms, & there is a very audible click of a relay in the
telly when switching between 16:9/4:3.

Anyone else noticed this, I'm sure it's not my telly?

CD

Sorry, how could anyone really watch a screen with oval circles?I don't need 
to any more but it was bad enough on 1980 computer games without having the 
telly doing it to. It has surely to be right to keep the aspect ratio 
correct.

Brian

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"CD"  wrote in message 
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>I was going to ask a question on here why some channels still
> broadcast in 4:3 on sat. One of the most popular in my household being
> Nick Jr.
>
> I always had these streched to 16:9 on my telly anyway as the nipper
> doesn't mind a fatter Fat Controller when watching his favourite
> program.
>
> I now notice (correct me if I'm wrong) that they are broadcasting in
> widescreen with black bars left & right with the 4:3 picture in the
> middle. I've noticed this on Nick Jr., Discovery & I was unfortunate
> enough to tune into an old episode of Keeping up Appearances on BBC1
> which was like this also.
>
> This leads to weird effects with programmes that have been made 4:3
> with black bars top & bottom (Mythbusters is a good example), they
> appear with a nick black frame all around.
>
> My aging Panasonic is definately set to 16:9 on these channels which
> the OSD confirms, & there is a very audible click of a relay in the
> telly when switching between 16:9/4:3.
>
> Anyone else noticed this, I'm sure it's not my telly?
>
> CD

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:22:11 GMT, "Brian Gaff"
 wrote:

>Sorry, how could anyone really watch a screen with oval circles?I don't need 
>to any more but it was bad enough on 1980 computer games without having the 
>telly doing it to. It has surely to be right to keep the aspect ratio 
>correct.

For a 3 year old watching Thomas the Tank engine it's not an issue. My
previous Philips Widescreen had a good mode called super wide which
just streched the sides of a 4:3 picture keeping the middle normal. 
When it died a year ago I was amazed at the total absence of CRTs
available, so I went all the way to Birmingham to a warehouse full of
second hand CRTs & picked up the Panasonic, which doesn't really have
a good way of stretching a 4:3 image to 16:9, but was still a bargain.

As for the original problem it now seems to have reverted back to how
it was before. Strange.

CD

"CD"  wrote in message 
news:2qbla4dlmaniloc2l8majr20ua8rdrsobg@4ax.com...
>I was going to ask a question on here why some channels still
> broadcast in 4:3 on sat. One of the most popular in my household being
> Nick Jr.
>
> I always had these streched to 16:9 on my telly anyway as the nipper
> doesn't mind a fatter Fat Controller when watching his favourite
> program.
>
> I now notice (correct me if I'm wrong) that they are broadcasting in
> widescreen with black bars left & right with the 4:3 picture in the
> middle. I've noticed this on Nick Jr., Discovery & I was unfortunate
> enough to tune into an old episode of Keeping up Appearances on BBC1
> which was like this also.
>
> This leads to weird effects with programmes that have been made 4:3
> with black bars top & bottom (Mythbusters is a good example), they
> appear with a nick black frame all around.
>
> My aging Panasonic is definately set to 16:9 on these channels which
> the OSD confirms, & there is a very audible click of a relay in the
> telly when switching between 16:9/4:3.
>
> Anyone else noticed this, I'm sure it's not my telly?

Yes. It's really annoying.

Why can't the satellite boxes add WSS switching codes to the top part of the 
picture like they do on Feeview. As far as I know neither Sky nor European 
satellite receiver manufactures included these codes in the picture so if 
you are watching a station in another room there is no way to change to the 
correct aspect ratio unless you do it manually. SCART aspect ratio switching 
doesn't work via RF coax or video sender.

Has WSS been included in Freestat boxes. Will they switch to the right ratio 
if you are watching via composite in another room?


>
> CD

Agamemnon wrote:

> Has WSS been included in Freestat boxes. Will they switch to the right 
> ratio if you are watching via composite in another room?

You mean Line 23 ?  Not many I think. Odd, because quite a few DVD players do, 
although of course none of them have RF outputs.


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"Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
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> Agamemnon wrote:
>
>> Has WSS been included in Freestat boxes. Will they switch to the right 
>> ratio if you are watching via composite in another room?
>
> You mean Line 23 ?  Not many I think. Odd, because quite a few DVD players 
> do, although of course none of them have RF outputs.

They all still have composite.

>
>
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> Mark
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