Yes still ringing with their automated crrap and they leave the number 
visible and its some  agency or other. I told them I'm on the list, but I 
did not get the impression they care even though they apologised.

Brian
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On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:30:02 GMT, "Brian Gaff"
 wrote:

>
>    Yes still ringing with their automated crrap and they leave the number 
>visible and its some  agency or other. I told them I'm on the list, but I 
>did not get the impression they care even though they apologised.
>
>Brian

I've no idea who they or what they do but Not Just Aerials phoned me
up yesterday. In the first few seconds the call was obviously some
sort of telesales effort so I hung up. 

Steve

Brian Gaff wrote:
>     Yes still ringing with their automated crrap and they leave the number 
> visible and its some  agency or other. I told them I'm on the list, but I 
> did not get the impression they care even though they apologised.

Same here. I'm also on the TPS list :-(

"Not Just Aerial's" automated message, which has an air of authority 
about it, could be construed as a message of doom by the unwary - "oh my 
gosh, they are going to disconnect my TV! I need to do something!"

If someone can be quick, could someone record it and upload it somewhere?

<http://whocallsme.com/Phone-Number.aspx/08716641448>
has details on how to complain to the ICO.

The same scamming bunch were featured on BBC watchdog
<http://www.bbc.co.uk/consumer/tv_and_radio/watchdog/reports/consumer_goods/consumer_20080512_2.shtml>

Previously known as "Satellite Direct UK Ltd" :-(

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"Brian Gaff"  wrote in message 
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>
>    Yes still ringing with their automated crrap and they leave the number 
> visible and its some  agency or other. I told them I'm on the list, but I 
> did not get the impression they care even though they apologised.
>
> Brian
> -- 
> Brian Gaff - briang1@blueyonder.co.uk
> Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name may be lost.
> Blind user, so no pictures please!
>
They don't care and no one else does!  Think about why you posted your
complaint to a newsgroup.  What exactly do you want from the group?
If your complaint is against a company - speak to them.
The best thing to do is say "wait a minute" and leave the phone while you
watch TV for 1 hour.

JD wrote:
   What exactly do you want from the group?


Who is JD?

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Adrian C

The problem is they are  taking advantage of the lack of knowledge by the 
public on this matter and trying to sell them aerial installations. I've  a 
growing mostly second hand body of knowledge that they are targeting the 
elderly and disabled with their calls, which  makes me suspect they have 
some kind of  list of such people, but the guy I spoke to sounded like  he 
was a barrow boy circa 1980 and thought the words were right the attitude 
was not.

Brian

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"Stephen Wolstenholme"  wrote in message 
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> On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:30:02 GMT, "Brian Gaff"
>  wrote:
>
>>
>>    Yes still ringing with their automated crrap and they leave the number
>>visible and its some  agency or other. I told them I'm on the list, but I
>>did not get the impression they care even though they apologised.
>>
>>Brian
>
> I've no idea who they or what they do but Not Just Aerials phoned me
> up yesterday. In the first few seconds the call was obviously some
> sort of telesales effort so I hung up.
>
> Steve
>

Yeah on a o871 number I don't think so. Its automated, you have to ring 
them.

I have complained, but I thought the  more publicity you put on places like 
this, the more the trade will be aware of their tactics and maybe warn the 
public. Of course their  goods and services might well be fine, but their 
tactics are definitely drama ridden and not really  very good.

Brian

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"JD"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Brian Gaff"  wrote in message 
> news:_DZmk.39450$E41.7719@text.news.virginmedia.com...
>>
>>    Yes still ringing with their automated crrap and they leave the number 
>> visible and its some  agency or other. I told them I'm on the list, but I 
>> did not get the impression they care even though they apologised.
>>
>> Brian
>> -- 
>> Brian Gaff - briang1@blueyonder.co.uk
>> Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff'
>> in the display name may be lost.
>> Blind user, so no pictures please!
>>
> They don't care and no one else does!  Think about why you posted your
> complaint to a newsgroup.  What exactly do you want from the group?
> If your complaint is against a company - speak to them.
> The best thing to do is say "wait a minute" and leave the phone while you
> watch TV for 1 hour.
>
>

On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 08:06:32 GMT, "Brian Gaff"
 wrote:

>The problem is they are  taking advantage of the lack of knowledge by the 
>public on this matter and trying to sell them aerial installations. I've  a 
>growing mostly second hand body of knowledge that they are targeting the 
>elderly and disabled with their calls, which  makes me suspect they have 
>some kind of  list of such people, but the guy I spoke to sounded like  he 
>was a barrow boy circa 1980 and thought the words were right the attitude 
>was not.
>
>Brian

As I am both elderly and disabled you may be right with the targeting.
Steve

>    Yes still ringing with their automated crrap and they leave the number 
> visible and its some  agency or other. I told them I'm on the list, but I 
> did not get the impression they care even though they apologised.
>

Report them to the TPS.  Eventually someone will do something!  They phoned 
me on Friday and I was straight onto the TPS site.

Paul DS

"Paul D.Smith"  wrote in message 
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>>    Yes still ringing with their automated crrap and they leave the number 
>> visible and its some  agency or other. I told them I'm on the list, but I 
>> did not get the impression they care even though they apologised.
>>
>
> Report them to the TPS.  Eventually someone will do something!  They 
> phoned me on Friday and I was straight onto the TPS site.

Do TPS do anything except write reports?

-- 
Max Demian

>> Report them to the TPS.  Eventually someone will do something!  They
>> phoned me on Friday and I was straight onto the TPS site.
>
> Do TPS do anything except write reports?

The TPS are useful but not for chasing the nasties.  So may I suggest 
(as in a previous thread) a report to the ICO (see 
http://www.ico.gov.uk/complaints/privacy_and_electronic_communications.aspx.)?

To quote from the ICO's response to me today:

"It is the Commissioner's policy to only take formal action where it 
seems to him to be the only way of ensuring compliance with the 
regulations and in the great majority of cases he manages to achieve a 
satisfactory result without using his formal powers.
However, our office has received a number of complaints about the 
company in question and as such the matter has been passed to our 
Regulatory Action Division (RAD), for their consideration. Details of 
the Commissioners strategy for regulatory action, which includes the 
regulations, can be found under the data protection link on our 
website."
While this might be taken as an indication that no further complaints 
are necessary, I suggest the more the better.  The more complaints the 
more likely action will be pursued and  a suitable penalty enforced.

-- 
Robin