Apparently the first site to transmt only digital will be Kilvey in
Swansea. See:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7547750.stm

-- 
Cheers

Peter

Petert  wrote:

>Apparently the first site to transmt only digital will be Kilvey in
>Swansea. See:
>
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7547750.stm

First in Wales.

-- 
Dave Farrance

On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:31:04 GMT, Dave Farrance
 wrote:

>Petert  wrote:
>
>>Apparently the first site to transmt only digital will be Kilvey in
>>Swansea. See:
>>
>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7547750.stm
>
>First in Wales.

Indeed, if you discount Ferryside/Llanstephan which was switched off a
few years ago as a pilot.

I note that the DigitalUK website hasn't been updated yet. I took a
look to see what help my 78 yr old mother-in-law was eligible to
recieve - nothing available as yet.

-- 
Cheers

Peter

Petert wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:31:04 GMT, Dave Farrance
>  wrote:
> 
>> Petert  wrote:
>>
>>> Apparently the first site to transmt only digital will be Kilvey in
>>> Swansea. See:
>>>
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7547750.stm
>> First in Wales.
> 
> Indeed, if you discount Ferryside/Llanstephan which was switched off a
> few years ago as a pilot.

Ferryside still broadcasts BBC 2 Wales analogue, because the digital 
service BBC 2W displaces too many network BBC 2 programmes.

BBC 2W will close at DSO in Wales, so the problem will go away.

However, I doubt the jorno who wrote the quoted web page knows any of 
that :-)

On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:51:24 +0100, Mark Carver
<mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>Petert wrote:
>> On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:31:04 GMT, Dave Farrance
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Petert  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Apparently the first site to transmt only digital will be Kilvey in
>>>> Swansea. See:
>>>>
>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7547750.stm
>>> First in Wales.
>> 
>> Indeed, if you discount Ferryside/Llanstephan which was switched off a
>> few years ago as a pilot.
>
>Ferryside still broadcasts BBC 2 Wales analogue, because the digital 
>service BBC 2W displaces too many network BBC 2 programmes.
>
>BBC 2W will close at DSO in Wales, so the problem will go away.
>
>However, I doubt the jorno who wrote the quoted web page knows any of 
>that :-)

Do I understand you to mean that the digital BBC2W will cease after
DSO has been completed in Wales?

I hope so because it seems to serve no purpose than to give employment
to the BBC Taffia in Cardiff. It diplaces a large number of BBC2
programmes. Not too much of a problem if you have satellite as the
generic BBC2 is available, but a real pain if you only have freeview
-- 
Cheers

Peter

Petert wrote:

>> Ferryside still broadcasts BBC 2 Wales analogue, because the digital 
>> service BBC 2W displaces too many network BBC 2 programmes.
>>
>> BBC 2W will close at DSO in Wales, so the problem will go away.
>>
>> However, I doubt the jorno who wrote the quoted web page knows any of 
>> that :-)
> 
> Do I understand you to mean that the digital BBC2W will cease after
> DSO has been completed in Wales?
> 
> I hope so because it seems to serve no purpose than to give employment
> to the BBC Taffia in Cardiff. It diplaces a large number of BBC2
> programmes. Not too much of a problem if you have satellite as the
> generic BBC2 is available, but a real pain if you only have freeview.

Yes, my understanding is that 2W will cease, and digital platforms in 
Wales will carry BBC 2 Wales instead.

For those not aware; BBC 2 Wales (analogue only) and BBC 2W (DTT/D-Sat) 
  are two different services.

On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:25:35 +0100, Mark Carver
<mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>Petert wrote:
>
>>> Ferryside still broadcasts BBC 2 Wales analogue, because the digital 
>>> service BBC 2W displaces too many network BBC 2 programmes.
>>>
>>> BBC 2W will close at DSO in Wales, so the problem will go away.
>>>
>>> However, I doubt the jorno who wrote the quoted web page knows any of 
>>> that :-)
>> 
>> Do I understand you to mean that the digital BBC2W will cease after
>> DSO has been completed in Wales?
>> 
>> I hope so because it seems to serve no purpose than to give employment
>> to the BBC Taffia in Cardiff. It diplaces a large number of BBC2
>> programmes. Not too much of a problem if you have satellite as the
>> generic BBC2 is available, but a real pain if you only have freeview.
>
>Yes, my understanding is that 2W will cease, and digital platforms in 
>Wales will carry BBC 2 Wales instead.
>
>For those not aware; BBC 2 Wales (analogue only) and BBC 2W (DTT/D-Sat) 
>  are two different services.

A
Thanks for the confirmation :-)

And for those not aware, both the above services differ from BBC2 
-- 
Cheers

Peter

>>Ferryside still broadcasts BBC 2 Wales analogue, because the digital
>>service BBC 2W displaces too many network BBC 2 programmes.
>>
>>BBC 2W will close at DSO in Wales, so the problem will go away.
>>
>>However, I doubt the jorno who wrote the quoted web page knows any of
>>that :-)
>
> Do I understand you to mean that the digital BBC2W will cease after
> DSO has been completed in Wales?
>
> I hope so because it seems to serve no purpose than to give employment
> to the BBC Taffia in Cardiff. It diplaces a large number of BBC2
> programmes. Not too much of a problem if you have satellite as the
> generic BBC2 is available, but a real pain if you only have freeview

In the past BBC 2W caused my parents to miss many programs (especially when 
they had set the video to record) before they realised what was going on, 
and where the real BBC2 was on satellite!

"Petert"  wrote in message 
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> Apparently the first site to transmt only digital will be Kilvey in
> Swansea. See:
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7547750.stm
> Cheers
> Peter
>
>
Good idea, experiment on the Welsh first, they don't matter

Steve Terry

"Steve Terry"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Petert"  wrote in message 
> news:rlgo94t9kbe7io7v632auai4p69df47cvl@4ax.com...
>> Apparently the first site to transmt only digital will be Kilvey in
>> Swansea. See:
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7547750.stm
>> Cheers
>> Peter
>>
>>
> Good idea, experiment on the Welsh first, they don't matter
>

They should consider themselves damn lucky to be among the chosen ones, 
usually if we wish to build a self detonating highly experimental fast 
breeder nuclear reactor, don't we usually choose the Scots as the lucky 
recipients?

>
>

"Ivan" <ivan'H'older@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message 
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>
> "Steve Terry"  wrote in message 
> news:g7i916$obj$1@news.albasani.net...
>>
>> "Petert"  wrote in message 
>> news:rlgo94t9kbe7io7v632auai4p69df47cvl@4ax.com...
>>> Apparently the first site to transmt only digital will be Kilvey in
>>> Swansea. See:
>>>
>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7547750.stm
>>> Cheers
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>> Good idea, experiment on the Welsh first, they don't matter
>
> They should consider themselves damn lucky to be among the chosen ones, 
> usually if we wish to build a self detonating highly experimental fast 
> breeder nuclear reactor, don't we usually choose the Scots as the lucky 
> recipients?

Although if the idea was to protect London and the South East they might as 
well not have bothered because the French built their self detonating 
nuclear reactors on the North coast of France. Much closer to London than 
any UK site, and we don't have any control over them at all.

In article <g7irll$bag$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>,
   Stephen  wrote:
> "Ivan" <ivan'H'older@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message 
> news:6g3ov5Fe6apmU1@mid.individual.net...

> > They should consider themselves damn lucky to be among the chosen ones, 
> > usually if we wish to build a self detonating highly experimental fast 
> > breeder nuclear reactor, don't we usually choose the Scots as the lucky 
> > recipients?

> Although if the idea was to protect London and the South East they might
> as well not have bothered because the French built their self detonating
> nuclear reactors on the North coast of France. Much closer to London
> than any UK site, and we don't have any control over them at all. 

How about Bradwell, Dungeness and Sizewell?

-- 
From KT24 - in "Leafy Surrey"

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11

charles wrote:

>> Although if the idea was to protect London and the South East they might
>> as well not have bothered because the French built their self detonating
>> nuclear reactors on the North coast of France. Much closer to London
>> than any UK site, and we don't have any control over them at all. 
> 
> How about Bradwell, Dungeness and Sizewell?

The prevailing wind from those three sites wouldn't take any radioactive cloud 
near London.



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"Stephen"  wrote in message 
news:g7irll$bag$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...
> "Ivan" <ivan'H'older@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message 
> news:6g3ov5Fe6apmU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>>>>
>>> Good idea, experiment on the Welsh first, they don't matter
>>
>> They should consider themselves damn lucky to be among the chosen ones, 
>> usually if we wish to build a self detonating highly experimental fast 
>> breeder nuclear reactor, don't we usually choose the Scots as the lucky 
>> recipients?
>
> Although if the idea was to protect London and the South East they might 
> as well not have bothered because the French built their self detonating 
> nuclear reactors on the North coast of France. Much closer to London than 
> any UK site, and we don't have any control over them at all.
>

I was thinking of...

"The Dounreay Nuclear Establishment near Thurso on the north coast of 
Scotland was chosen in the 1950s as the centre for the UK's fast breeder 
reactor programme - a new type of reactor, fuelled by plutonium."

"Dumping was stopped in 1977 after an explosion in the shaft. Independent 
studies have shown the risk of another explosion remains today and UKAEA has 
been told it must prepare plans to remove the waste from the shaft. Waste 
particles from the plant, some potentially lethal, have been found on the 
foreshore at Dounreay (see photo above). Radioactive contamination has also 
been found all over the site and outside since a full-scale monitoring 
programme was started last year in response to pressure from regulatory 
authorities and public concern."

<http://www.zetnet.co.uk/oigs/n-base/dounreay.htm>




>

In article , Mark Carver
<mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> charles wrote:

> >> Although if the idea was to protect London and the South East they
> >> might as well not have bothered because the French built their self
> >> detonating nuclear reactors on the North coast of France. Much closer
> >> to London than any UK site, and we don't have any control over them at
> >> all. 
> > 
> > How about Bradwell, Dungeness and Sizewell?

> The prevailing wind from those three sites wouldn't take any radioactive
> cloud near London.


but, the comment was "closer to London".  Any French reactor would have the
same prevailing wind problem. If the prevailing wind is to be a saviour,
how about Berkeley or Hinkley Point?

-- 
From KT24 - in "Leafy Surrey"

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11

charles wrote:
> In article , Mark Carver
> <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> charles wrote:
> 
>>>> Although if the idea was to protect London and the South East they
>>>> might as well not have bothered because the French built their self
>>>> detonating nuclear reactors on the North coast of France. Much closer
>>>> to London than any UK site, and we don't have any control over them at
>>>> all. 
>>> How about Bradwell, Dungeness and Sizewell?
> 
>> The prevailing wind from those three sites wouldn't take any radioactive
>> cloud near London.
> 
> 
> but, the comment was "closer to London".  Any French reactor would have the
> same prevailing wind problem. 

Yes, and because they're on the north coast the problem would be ours rather 
than theirs.

> If the prevailing wind is to be a saviour,
> how about Berkeley or Hinkley Point?

Of course large population areas of the UK would be affected, but they're 
still not prevailing-up-wind of London  ;-)


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Steve Terry wrote:

>
>"Petert"  wrote in message 
>news:rlgo94t9kbe7io7v632auai4p69df47cvl@4ax.com...
>> Apparently the first site to transmt only digital will be Kilvey in
>> Swansea. See:
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7547750.stm
>> Cheers
>> Peter
>>
>>
>Good idea, experiment on the Welsh first, they don't matter

Sigh. There is already a site in England that is only transmitting
digital. In Whitehaven switch off started on October 17 2007 and
finished four weeks later.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2007/oct/17/digitaltvradio
-- 
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"