My brother had to move his 28" Sony CRT telly the other day to do some
decorating.  It fell over on it's front with a amighty crash!  Upon
rescuing it, the screen has a big splodge of green on one side and
purple on the other.  He's tried switching it on & off (properly) to
degause it but no effect.  I thought maybe the shadow mask had
distorted.  Is it fixable?

Marky P.

"Marky P"  wrote in message 
news:f5hv741cobldqk1u64tkpv442cf2f452nm@4ax.com...
> My brother had to move his 28" Sony CRT telly the other day to do some
> decorating.  It fell over on it's front with a amighty crash!  Upon
> rescuing it, the screen has a big splodge of green on one side and
> purple on the other.  He's tried switching it on & off (properly) to
> degause it but no effect.  I thought maybe the shadow mask had
> distorted.  Is it fixable?
>
> Marky P.


No Marky, sorry. You've gone and buckled the aperture grille
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aperture_grille
Someone will no doubt tell you that the screen is magnetised suggest you
degauss it won't work in this case, trust me.

-- 
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:20:13 +0100, Marky P 
wrote:

> My brother had to move his 28" Sony CRT telly the other day to do some
> decorating.  It fell over on it's front with a amighty crash!

You sure it's not an insurance fiddle? Accidentally fell over while
decorating? Hmmm. Got accidental damage cover?

> Is it fixable?

You could just squirting some NMN on the front to cover up the splodges....
No, it's f*cked.

"Marky P"  wrote in message 
news:f5hv741cobldqk1u64tkpv442cf2f452nm@4ax.com...
> My brother had to move his 28" Sony CRT telly the other day to do some
> decorating.  It fell over on it's front with a amighty crash!  Upon
> rescuing it, the screen has a big splodge of green on one side and
> purple on the other.  He's tried switching it on & off (properly) to
> degause it but no effect.  I thought maybe the shadow mask had
> distorted.  Is it fixable?
>
> Marky P.
>

Now there's no excuse not to get a LCD or Plasma ...

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:06:02 GMT, "Netmask"
 wrote:

>
>"Marky P"  wrote in message 
>news:f5hv741cobldqk1u64tkpv442cf2f452nm@4ax.com...
>> My brother had to move his 28" Sony CRT telly the other day to do some
>> decorating.  It fell over on it's front with a amighty crash!  Upon
>> rescuing it, the screen has a big splodge of green on one side and
>> purple on the other.  He's tried switching it on & off (properly) to
>> degause it but no effect.  I thought maybe the shadow mask had
>> distorted.  Is it fixable?
>>
>> Marky P.
>>
>
>Now there's no excuse not to get a LCD or Plasma ... 
>
He already has a Toshiba LCD telly in his lounge.  This CRT was in
(what was) my dad's lounge, and as my dad is now in a home, it doesn't
really get used now.  It will go down the tip this weekend.

Marky P.

Lots of little magnets and coils some of which could have moved from their 
sealed positions. Its kind of like having a rubik cube with the added 
complication that the coloured sides only look the colour they should be 
when they are pointing the right way.

Insurance claim perhaps?

Brian

-- 
Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email.
 graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them
Email: briang1@blueyonder.co.uk
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________


"Marky P"  wrote in message 
news:f5hv741cobldqk1u64tkpv442cf2f452nm@4ax.com...
> My brother had to move his 28" Sony CRT telly the other day to do some
> decorating.  It fell over on it's front with a amighty crash!  Upon
> rescuing it, the screen has a big splodge of green on one side and
> purple on the other.  He's tried switching it on & off (properly) to
> degause it but no effect.  I thought maybe the shadow mask had
> distorted.  Is it fixable?
>
> Marky P.
>

"Marky P"  wrote in message 
news:f5hv741cobldqk1u64tkpv442cf2f452nm@4ax.com...
> My brother had to move his 28" Sony CRT telly the other day to do some
> decorating.  It fell over on it's front with a amighty crash!  Upon
> rescuing it, the screen has a big splodge of green on one side and
> purple on the other.  He's tried switching it on & off (properly) to
> degause it but no effect.  I thought maybe the shadow mask had
> distorted.  Is it fixable?
>
> Marky P.
>

Quite a common fault on certain Sony models [AE1 chassis] was for the scan 
coils on the CRT neck to work loose, creating purity errors around the tube 
face, definitely worth geting checked out to see if they have been dislodged 
by the large mechanical shock, however it's not something I would recommend 
for the uninitiated, as large and dangerous voltages can still be present 
around this tube area, even after the set has been switched off and 
disconnected from the mains.

"Stephen Wolstenholme"  wrote in message 
news:o8q0841oirhmf008kvr3u09hqpocutpb8t@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:25:38 +0100, "Ivan" <ivan'H'older@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>Quite a common fault on certain Sony models [AE1 chassis] was for the scan
>>coils on the CRT neck to work loose, creating purity errors around the 
>>tube
>>face, definitely worth geting checked out to see if they have been 
>>dislodged
>>by the large mechanical shock, however it's not something I would 
>>recommend
>>for the uninitiated, as large and dangerous voltages can still be present
>>around this tube area, even after the set has been switched off and
>>disconnected from the mains.
>
> CRT's can retain a charge for days. Many years ago I worked in a TV
> factory. It was quite common to be zapped by a new CRT when it was
> removed from its box. The tube would still be charged from being
> tested in the CRT factory. After a bit of experience I made sure the
> final anode was flashed over to the tube coating when unpacking the
> box. Those were only small B&W tubes.
>
> Steve
>

IMO the worst thing of all is the reservoir capacitor which can hold around 
320 Volts [sometimes for over a day] fitted in many switch mode power 
supplies.
The usual procedure is always to apply a bleed resistor across the terminals 
before attempting any kind of service.. but come on lads how many times have 
you forgotten!. only to find out the hard way by having chunks of burning 
flesh removed, accompanied by that sick and trembling feeling and in many 
cases a completely decimated power supply, all because the manufacturer 
thought to save a penny by not incorporating a bleed resistor into the 
design.

Not always the case but for various reasons, its a mess if it canbe sorted 
at all. Always duct tape a pillow to the front of tvs if moving them as they 
are nearly always front heavy if of the crt kind.

Brian

-- 
Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email.
 graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them
Email: briang1@blueyonder.co.uk
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________


"Graham."  wrote in message 
news:g5ohph$h2j$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>
>
> "Marky P"  wrote in message 
> news:f5hv741cobldqk1u64tkpv442cf2f452nm@4ax.com...
>> My brother had to move his 28" Sony CRT telly the other day to do some
>> decorating.  It fell over on it's front with a amighty crash!  Upon
>> rescuing it, the screen has a big splodge of green on one side and
>> purple on the other.  He's tried switching it on & off (properly) to
>> degause it but no effect.  I thought maybe the shadow mask had
>> distorted.  Is it fixable?
>>
>> Marky P.
>
>
> No Marky, sorry. You've gone and buckled the aperture grille
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aperture_grille
> Someone will no doubt tell you that the screen is magnetised suggest you
> degauss it won't work in this case, trust me.
>
> -- 
> Graham.
>
> %Profound_observation%
>

In message <g5ohph$h2j$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Graham. 
 wrote
>
>
>"Marky P"  wrote in message
>news:f5hv741cobldqk1u64tkpv442cf2f452nm@4ax.com...
>> My brother had to move his 28" Sony CRT telly the other day to do some
>> decorating.  It fell over on it's front with a amighty crash!  Upon
>> rescuing it, the screen has a big splodge of green on one side and
>> purple on the other.  He's tried switching it on & off (properly) to
>> degause it but no effect.  I thought maybe the shadow mask had
>> distorted.  Is it fixable?
>>
>> Marky P.
>
>
>No Marky, sorry. You've gone and buckled the aperture grille
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aperture_grille
>Someone will no doubt tell you that the screen is magnetised suggest you
>degauss it won't work in this case, trust me.
>

In that case percussion methods may fix it. Hit the side of the TV hard 
with the flat of your hand.

If it requires de-gausing and switching off at the plug doesn't do it 
then get a large magnet (old speaker magnet). Suspend it from a loop of 
string. Spin the magnet. Whilst it is still spinning move it close to 
the screen and then slowly away from the screen.

-- 
Alan
news2006 {at} amac {dot} f2s {dot} com

In article <%VYfk.29008$E41.16384@text.news.virginmedia.com>, Brian Gaff
 scribeth thus
>Not always the case but for various reasons, its a mess if it canbe sorted 
>at all. Always duct tape a pillow to the front of tvs if moving them as they 
>are nearly always front heavy if of the crt kind.

When I was in the TV trade thats the way we used to transport them in
estate cars and Vans either face down on the seats or on very large
chunks of foam rubber...
>
>Brian
>

-- 
Tony Sayer

"Paul Ratcliffe" <abuse@orac12.clara34.co56.uk78> wrote in message 
news:slrng7vme8.p8.abuse@news.pr.network...
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 23:20:13 +0100, Marky P 
> 
> wrote:
>
>> My brother had to move his 28" Sony CRT telly the other day to do some
>> decorating.  It fell over on it's front with a amighty crash!
>
> You sure it's not an insurance fiddle? Accidentally fell over while
> decorating? Hmmm. Got accidental damage cover?

What it the replacement cost - not a lot!

http://www.empiredirect.co.uk/content/products/details/?modelcode=DAE-DUB2850GB

>
>> Is it fixable?
>
> You could just squirting some NMN on the front to cover up the 
> splodges....
> No, it's f*cked.

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:25:38 +0100, "Ivan" <ivan'H'older@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

>Quite a common fault on certain Sony models [AE1 chassis] was for the scan 
>coils on the CRT neck to work loose, creating purity errors around the tube 
>face, definitely worth geting checked out to see if they have been dislodged 
>by the large mechanical shock, however it's not something I would recommend 
>for the uninitiated, as large and dangerous voltages can still be present 
>around this tube area, even after the set has been switched off and 
>disconnected from the mains. 

CRT's can retain a charge for days. Many years ago I worked in a TV
factory. It was quite common to be zapped by a new CRT when it was
removed from its box. The tube would still be charged from being
tested in the CRT factory. After a bit of experience I made sure the
final anode was flashed over to the tube coating when unpacking the
box. Those were only small B&W tubes. 

Steve

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 13:40:33 +0100, Alan 
wrote:

>In message <g5ohph$h2j$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Graham. 
> wrote
>>
>>
>>"Marky P"  wrote in message
>>news:f5hv741cobldqk1u64tkpv442cf2f452nm@4ax.com...
>>> My brother had to move his 28" Sony CRT telly the other day to do some
>>> decorating.  It fell over on it's front with a amighty crash!  Upon
>>> rescuing it, the screen has a big splodge of green on one side and
>>> purple on the other.  He's tried switching it on & off (properly) to
>>> degause it but no effect.  I thought maybe the shadow mask had
>>> distorted.  Is it fixable?
>>>
>>> Marky P.
>>
>>
>>No Marky, sorry. You've gone and buckled the aperture grille
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aperture_grille
>>Someone will no doubt tell you that the screen is magnetised suggest you
>>degauss it won't work in this case, trust me.
>>
>
>In that case percussion methods may fix it. Hit the side of the TV hard 
>with the flat of your hand.
>
>If it requires de-gausing and switching off at the plug doesn't do it 
>then get a large magnet (old speaker magnet). Suspend it from a loop of 
>string. Spin the magnet. Whilst it is still spinning move it close to 
>the screen and then slowly away from the screen.

Yeah, I know how to de-gause as I did it at a telly repair place when
I was 16 on work experience :-)  Had a proper de-gauser then, but
maybe I will try a speaker magnet.

Marky P.

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:25:38 +0100, "Ivan" <ivan'H'older@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:

>
>"Marky P"  wrote in message 
>news:f5hv741cobldqk1u64tkpv442cf2f452nm@4ax.com...
>> My brother had to move his 28" Sony CRT telly the other day to do some
>> decorating.  It fell over on it's front with a amighty crash!  Upon
>> rescuing it, the screen has a big splodge of green on one side and
>> purple on the other.  He's tried switching it on & off (properly) to
>> degause it but no effect.  I thought maybe the shadow mask had
>> distorted.  Is it fixable?
>>
>> Marky P.
>>
>
>Quite a common fault on certain Sony models [AE1 chassis] was for the scan 
>coils on the CRT neck to work loose, creating purity errors around the tube 
>face, definitely worth geting checked out to see if they have been dislodged 
>by the large mechanical shock, however it's not something I would recommend 
>for the uninitiated, as large and dangerous voltages can still be present 
>around this tube area, even after the set has been switched off and 
>disconnected from the mains. 

I learned no end when doing Work Experience for two weeks when I was
16.  Including what happens when you snip the cable that goes to the
tube without draining the power to the chassis first.  I tried pulling
it off the tube, but it was stuck, so I cut it & WALLOP!  Got a
reasonable jolt there!

Marky P.

"Alan"  wrote in message 
news:4tadn2BB9IgIFw$r@amac.f2s.com...


> In that case percussion methods may fix it. Hit the side of the TV hard 
> with the flat of your hand.
>
\


or a tambourine ?


-- 
Gareth.

that fly...... is your magic wand....

"tony sayer"  wrote in message 
news:LJBhcbH$CGgIFw7J@bancom.co.uk...
> In article <%VYfk.29008$E41.16384@text.news.virginmedia.com>, Brian Gaff
>  scribeth thus
>>Not always the case but for various reasons, its a mess if it canbe sorted
>>at all. Always duct tape a pillow to the front of tvs if moving them as 
>>they
>>are nearly always front heavy if of the crt kind.
>
> When I was in the TV trade thats the way we used to transport them in
> estate cars and Vans either face down on the seats or on very large
> chunks of foam rubber...

Same here - always face down on foam in the back of the trusty Avenger 
estate we all used - later replaced by a Cavalier estate.

"Doctor D"  wrote in message 
news:u4KdnW-JIb0EfR3VnZ2dnUVZ8vOdnZ2d@posted.plusnet...
>
> "tony sayer"  wrote in message 
> news:LJBhcbH$CGgIFw7J@bancom.co.uk...
>> In article <%VYfk.29008$E41.16384@text.news.virginmedia.com>, Brian Gaff
>>  scribeth thus
>>>Not always the case but for various reasons, its a mess if it canbe 
>>>sorted
>>>at all. Always duct tape a pillow to the front of tvs if moving them as 
>>>they
>>>are nearly always front heavy if of the crt kind.
>>
>> When I was in the TV trade thats the way we used to transport them in
>> estate cars and Vans either face down on the seats or on very large
>> chunks of foam rubber...
>
> Same here - always face down on foam in the back of the trusty Avenger 
> estate we all used - later replaced by a Cavalier estate.

With me it was Vauxhall Vivas followed by Chevettes, Maestros then Astras
and I'm sure there was a Mini Metro (I kid you not) in there somewhere
when the company was strapped for cash. Oh, and before the Vivas it was
Hillman Huskies but that was before my time.
So the quiz question is, who did I work for?

-- 
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:10:41 +0100, "Graham."  wrote:


>
>With me it was Vauxhall Vivas followed by Chevettes, Maestros then Astras
>and I'm sure there was a Mini Metro (I kid you not) in there somewhere
>when the company was strapped for cash. Oh, and before the Vivas it was
>Hillman Huskies but that was before my time.
>So the quiz question is, who did I work for?

Henry Wigfall

Derek

In message <g5ssl4$baj$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Graham. 
 writes
>Oh, and before the Vivas it was
>Hillman Huskies but that was before my time.
>So the quiz question is, who did I work for?

Granada Bedford used to have Huskies, yes?
>

-- 
Bill

"Graham."  wrote in message 
news:g5ssl4$baj$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>
> With me it was Vauxhall Vivas followed by Chevettes, Maestros then Astras
> and I'm sure there was a Mini Metro (I kid you not) in there somewhere
> when the company was strapped for cash. Oh, and before the Vivas it was
> Hillman Huskies but that was before my time.
> So the quiz question is, who did I work for?
>

Mastercare?

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:53:27 +0100, Bill 
wrote:

>In message <g5ssl4$baj$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Graham. 
> writes
>>Oh, and before the Vivas it was
>>Hillman Huskies but that was before my time.
>>So the quiz question is, who did I work for?
>
>Granada Bedford used to have Huskies, yes?
>>
Ah Bill, you being from Bedford must remember Carlow Radio?  That's
where I did my 2 weeks work experience when I was 16.  There telly
repair place was in St. Johns (near Ampthill Road bridge).  It's all
being knocked down now :-(

Marky P.

In message , Marky P 
 writes
>On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:53:27 +0100, Bill 
>wrote:
>>Granada Bedford used to have Huskies, yes?
>>>
>Ah Bill, you being from Bedford must remember Carlow Radio?  That's
>where I did my 2 weeks work experience when I was 16.  There telly
>repair place was in St. Johns (near Ampthill Road bridge).  It's all
>being knocked down now :-(

The tower and a bit of a building at the base of it were still there 
this morning, otherwise it is all rubble now. The sign says it has 
already been sold for "development".

Marky, talking of Granada, as we almost were, I wonder if you remember 
seeing the 2m dishes on the roof some years back?? I lowered a couple 
off there with ropes at the back of the building, darn near changed the 
spelling of Granada in the process!!
-- 
Bill

"Graham."  wrote in message 
news:g5ssl4$baj$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>

>
> With me it was Vauxhall Vivas followed by Chevettes, Maestros then Astras
> and I'm sure there was a Mini Metro (I kid you not) in there somewhere
> when the company was strapped for cash. Oh, and before the Vivas it was
> Hillman Huskies but that was before my time.
> So the quiz question is, who did I work for?
>
> -- 
> Graham.
>
i.e. the TV you were carrying was worth more than the car - lol.
Mike.

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:55:04 +0100, Bill 
wrote:

>In message , Marky P 
> writes
>>On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:53:27 +0100, Bill 
>>wrote:
>>>Granada Bedford used to have Huskies, yes?
>>>>
>>Ah Bill, you being from Bedford must remember Carlow Radio?  That's
>>where I did my 2 weeks work experience when I was 16.  There telly
>>repair place was in St. Johns (near Ampthill Road bridge).  It's all
>>being knocked down now :-(
>
>The tower and a bit of a building at the base of it were still there 
>this morning, otherwise it is all rubble now. The sign says it has 
>already been sold for "development".
>
>Marky, talking of Granada, as we almost were, I wonder if you remember 
>seeing the 2m dishes on the roof some years back?? I lowered a couple 
>off there with ropes at the back of the building, darn near changed the 
>spelling of Granada in the process!!

Think I just about remember them!  Think I also remember a missing
letter in the big red Granada sign on the building.  Wasn't you, was
it?

Marky P.

In message , Marky P 
 writes
>Think I just about remember them!  Think I also remember a missing
>letter in the big red Granada sign on the building.  Wasn't you, was
>it?
>
>Marky P.
>

Twas about 10 - 15 years ago......... Not me, it was a close shave but 
they remained intact!

-- 
Bill

"Bill"  wrote in message 
news:axa0U0D3YkgIFwaA@birchnet.demon.co.uk...
> In message <g5ssl4$baj$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Graham. 
>  writes
>>Oh, and before the Vivas it was
>>Hillman Huskies but that was before my time.
>>So the quiz question is, who did I work for?
>
> Granada Bedford used to have Huskies, yes?

Bill, you've just won yourself a plastic Red Indian
and a portrait of PT Barnum.


-- 
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

In message <g5vs0d$fed$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Graham.
 writes
>
>"Bill"  wrote in message
>news:axa0U0D3YkgIFwaA@birchnet.demon.co.uk...
>> In message <g5ssl4$baj$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Graham.
>>  writes
>>>Oh, and before the Vivas it was
>>>Hillman Huskies but that was before my time.
>>>So the quiz question is, who did I work for?
>>
>> Granada Bedford used to have Huskies, yes?
>
>Bill, you've just won yourself a plastic Red Indian
>and a portrait of PT Barnum.

Wow,
        not sure how to express my excitement, so I won't!

The only reason I knew this was that my ex wife's ex husband worked
there and she had an ex Granada Husky, it was a great vehicle to
maintain. Not totally sure I would want one now as a co' car though.
>
>

-- 
Bill

>>> Granada Bedford used to have Huskies, yes?
>>
>>Bill, you've just won yourself a plastic Red Indian
>>and a portrait of PT Barnum.
>
> Wow,
>        not sure how to express my excitement, so I won't!
>
> The only reason I knew this was that my ex wife's ex husband worked
> there and she had an ex Granada Husky, it was a great vehicle to
> maintain. Not totally sure I would want one now as a co' car though.
>>
>>

Not sure that you understand the significance so I'll explain.
Every Granada venue had to display a portrait of PT Barnum
in much the same way as these days Company's display
their Mission and Vision statements I suppose Barnum
represented showmanship and perhaps a commitment to
customer service, anyway, we all thought it was bollocks.
The plastic Red Indian was a promotional give-away by
Red Arrow Services the forerunner of GTVR.
Occasionally you would see one proudly displayed
on a set you went to repair.

As I said I never drove a Husky, but the guys who did
were still talking about them years later.
Apparently you needed to put a slab of concrete
in the front to balance the load

-- 
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

"Graham."  wrote in message 
news:g6021u$bvp$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>
>
> As I said I never drove a Husky, but the guys who did
> were still talking about them years later.
> Apparently you needed to put a slab of concrete
> in the front to balance the load
>
> -- 

I'm pretty certain that back in the 1960s there existed quite a large TV 
rental company 'Atkinson'? in the Bristol area, their engineers drove 
Hillman Imp vans, can anyone else remember them.. I can't seem to find any 
reference on Google.

In message <g6021u$bvp$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Graham.
 writes
>
>Not sure that you understand the significance so I'll explain.
>Every Granada venue had to display a portrait of PT Barnum
>in much the same way as these days Company's display
>their Mission and Vision statements I suppose Barnum
>represented showmanship and perhaps a commitment to
>customer service, anyway, we all thought it was bollocks.
>The plastic Red Indian was a promotional give-away by
>Red Arrow Services the forerunner of GTVR.
>Occasionally you would see one proudly displayed
>on a set you went to repair.
>
>As I said I never drove a Husky, but the guys who did
>were still talking about them years later.
>Apparently you needed to put a slab of concrete
>in the front to balance the load
>

Hi Graham,
        it rang a bell but I was not fully aware, sorry did not mean to
offend though.:-)
I can well understand the need for the concrete, all the weight was at
the back even when unloaded.
-- 
Bill

"Bill"  wrote in message 
news:0b8f+5csF5gIFws4@birchnet.demon.co.uk...
> In message <g6021u$bvp$1@registered.motzarella.org>, Graham.
>  writes
>>
>>Not sure that you understand the significance so I'll explain.
>>Every Granada venue had to display a portrait of PT Barnum
>>in much the same way as these days Company's display
>>their Mission and Vision statements I suppose Barnum
>>represented showmanship and perhaps a commitment to
>>customer service, anyway, we all thought it was bollocks.
>>The plastic Red Indian was a promotional give-away by
>>Red Arrow Services the forerunner of GTVR.
>>Occasionally you would see one proudly displayed
>>on a set you went to repair.
>>
>>As I said I never drove a Husky, but the guys who did
>>were still talking about them years later.
>>Apparently you needed to put a slab of concrete
>>in the front to balance the load
>>
>
> Hi Graham,
>        it rang a bell but I was not fully aware, sorry did not mean to
> offend though.:-)
> I can well understand the need for the concrete, all the weight was at
> the back even when unloaded.

Non taken Bill, I was being intentionally cryptic to see if anyone 
remembered.

-- 
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

>>> When I was in the TV trade thats the way we used to transport them in
>>> estate cars and Vans either face down on the seats or on very large
>>> chunks of foam rubber...
>>
>> Same here - always face down on foam in the back of the trusty Avenger 
>> estate we all used - later replaced by a Cavalier estate.
>
> With me it was Vauxhall Vivas followed by Chevettes, Maestros then Astras
> and I'm sure there was a Mini Metro (I kid you not) in there somewhere
> when the company was strapped for cash. Oh, and before the Vivas it was
> Hillman Huskies but that was before my time.
> So the quiz question is, who did I work for?


No idea I'm afraid, but my list is worryingly similar.

The gearbox went west on one of the Avengers during an overtaking move on 
the A40 - tricky.

 I worked for another company for a while who had Metro 1.3 vans - they only 
good thing about them is that they were faster than the Escort 1.1 vans we 
also had!
When diesel engines became more common, a Maestro 2.0 Perkins was added. 
This sounded like it was going faster, but did have a fair bit more shove 
than anything we'd had before - and a five speed gearbox.

I rack up my miles in a car these days, and rarely drive any of our vans. 
When I do it strikes me how quick and refined the current favourite Vauxhall 
1.7 CDTi's are, and they're fitted with air conditioning. The current 
drivers don't have my muscles though as they have power steering!

"Doctor D"  wrote in message 
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>
>
>>>> When I was in the TV trade thats the way we used to transport them in
>>>> estate cars and Vans either face down on the seats or on very large
>>>> chunks of foam rubber...
>>>
>>> Same here - always face down on foam in the back of the trusty Avenger 
>>> estate we all used - later replaced by a Cavalier estate.
>>
>> With me it was Vauxhall Vivas followed by Chevettes, Maestros then Astras
>> and I'm sure there was a Mini Metro (I kid you not) in there somewhere
>> when the company was strapped for cash. Oh, and before the Vivas it was
>> Hillman Huskies but that was before my time.
>> So the quiz question is, who did I work for?
>
>
> No idea I'm afraid, but my list is worryingly similar.
>
> The gearbox went west on one of the Avengers during an overtaking move on 
> the A40 - tricky.
>
> I worked for another company for a while who had Metro 1.3 vans - they 
> only good thing about them is that they were faster than the Escort 1.1 
> vans we also had!
> When diesel engines became more common, a Maestro 2.0 Perkins was added. 
> This sounded like it was going faster, but did have a fair bit more shove 
> than anything we'd had before - and a five speed gearbox.
>
> I rack up my miles in a car these days, and rarely drive any of our vans. 
> When I do it strikes me how quick and refined the current favourite 
> Vauxhall 1.7 CDTi's are, and they're fitted with air conditioning. The 
> current drivers don't have my muscles though as they have power steering!


I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think those Huskys even had a heater.
My first Viva has a mechanical windscreen washer, I thought the
electric one on the next one I got was great.
-- 
Graham.

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> Not sure that you understand the significance so I'll explain.
> Every Granada venue had to display a portrait of PT Barnum
> in much the same way as these days Company's display
> their Mission and Vision statements I suppose Barnum
> represented showmanship and perhaps a commitment to
> customer service, anyway, we all thought it was bollocks.

Maybe it's because Granada thought, "There's a sucker born every minute."

-- 
Max Demian