Is it just me, or is the UK a depressing place to be nowadays?  It seems the
UK is all doom and gloom and depressing all the time.
Gosh this country needs a change of leadership and a change of direction.

In message , John 
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>Is it just me, or is the UK a depressing place to be nowadays?  It seems the
>UK is all doom and gloom and depressing all the time.
>Gosh this country needs a change of leadership and a change of direction.
>
>

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"John"  wrote in message 
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> Is it just me, or is the UK a depressing place to be nowadays?  It seems 
> the
> UK is all doom and gloom and depressing all the time.
> Gosh this country needs a change of leadership and a change of direction.
>
>

The digital telly is so boring...

On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 00:04:00 +0100, "John" 
wrote:

>Is it just me, or is the UK a depressing place to be nowadays?  It seems the
>UK is all doom and gloom and depressing all the time.

Stop reading the Daily Mail.
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John wrote:
> Is it just me, or is the UK a depressing place to be nowadays?  It seems the
> UK is all doom and gloom and depressing all the time.
> Gosh this country needs a change of leadership and a change of direction.
> 
> 
It's just the media talking down the enonomy, and they're succeeding. 
Best to just ingnore it and get on with your life as normal.

On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 00:04:00 +0100, "John" 
wrote:

>Is it just me, or is the UK a depressing place to be nowadays?  It seems the
>UK is all doom and gloom and depressing all the time.
>Gosh this country needs a change of leadership and a change of direction.

What stunning naivety. No matter who wins the next election we'll
still be governed by politicians. Only the glossy coating will be
different.

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In article ,
   Zathras  wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 00:04:00 +0100, "John" 
> wrote:

> >Is it just me, or is the UK a depressing place to be nowadays?  It seems
> >the UK is all doom and gloom and depressing all the time. Gosh this
> >country needs a change of leadership and a change of direction.

> What stunning naivety. No matter who wins the next election we'll
> still be governed by politicians. Only the glossy coating will be
> different.

but - once upon a time these "politicians" governed for what they believed
to be 'the good of the county'.  Now they do it for their own personal or
party benefit.

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"Andrew"  wrote in message 
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> On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 00:04:00 +0100, "John" 
> wrote:
>
>>Is it just me, or is the UK a depressing place to be nowadays?  It seems 
>>the
>>UK is all doom and gloom and depressing all the time.
>
> Stop reading the Daily Mail.

What? Read the Sun instead and see the latest in the empty lives of 
Kerry,Jordan and Amy Winelake?

> Is it just me, or is the UK a depressing place to be nowadays?  It seems 
> the
> UK is all doom and gloom and depressing all the time.

I agree.  It is strange.  Compared to many people is the world we are 
wealthy and fortunate.  But we are obsessed about how awful everything is. 
Have you noticed how everything is a "crisis"?  The crisis in health care, 
the crisis in education.  The disenfranchisement of the younger generation; 
the new "under class"; the terrorist threat; the global warming crisis; the 
world food crisis.  And don't forget the "carnage" on the roads.

And in response to all these problems we implement a vast array of measures, 
targets and objectives.  We employ an army of bureaucrats who do nothing 
productive whatever.  And worst of all, we destroy civil liberties which 
were established almost a millennium ago, thus handing victory on a plate to 
the Muslim fundamentalists who want to undermine our way of life.

What an incredibly po-faced and miserable lot we are.  Have you been abroad 
recently?  I've a friend who lives in Crete and these issues - whilst not 
ignored - are NOT obsessed about with endless hand-wringing like we do here. 
They are poorer than us, but for some reason they seem much more relaxed and 
content than we do.

The difference is one of attitude and perception, not a difference of 
reality.  And for some reason we love to wallow in - frankly - feelings of 
doom, gloom and self-pity.

I think it is quite fascinating, but not at all healthy.  And I wish I 
understood why we do it, and how we can stop.

SteveT

"John"  wrote in message 
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: Is it just me, or is the UK a depressing place to be nowadays?  It seems 
the
: UK is all doom and gloom and depressing all the time.

Gloom & Doom sells newspapers on both sides of the Atlantic and south of the 
channel as well.

: Gosh this country needs a change of leadership and a change of direction.

I dunno about that.  Over all you've had a pretty god run for the last 25 
years.  Certainly better than the previous 25 years.  Sure, a graph of the 
economy will show some spikes and some troughs, but the trend is decidedly 
up.

On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 12:38:19 +0100, "Steve Thackery"
 wrote:

>> Is it just me, or is the UK a depressing place to be nowadays?  It seems 
>> the
>> UK is all doom and gloom and depressing all the time.
>
>I agree.  It is strange.  Compared to many people is the world we are 
>wealthy and fortunate.  But we are obsessed about how awful everything is. 
>Have you noticed how everything is a "crisis"?  The crisis in health care, 
>the crisis in education.  The disenfranchisement of the younger generation; 
>the new "under class"; the terrorist threat; the global warming crisis; the 
>world food crisis.  And don't forget the "carnage" on the roads.

And before that it was the cold war with "protect & survive".

>And in response to all these problems we implement a vast array of measures, 
>targets and objectives.  We employ an army of bureaucrats who do nothing 
>productive whatever.  And worst of all, we destroy civil liberties which 
>were established almost a millennium ago, thus handing victory on a plate to 
>the Muslim fundamentalists who want to undermine our way of life.

Bizarre, isn't it?  Maybe the point you make about the army of
beareaucrats who do nothing productive is the key.  Therefore they
need to invent lots of problems so that they can "solve" them.  Or
maybe it's the other way around - they have a "solution" so they must
manufacture a problem to match it with.

>What an incredibly po-faced and miserable lot we are.  Have you been abroad 
>recently?  I've a friend who lives in Crete and these issues - whilst not 
>ignored - are NOT obsessed about with endless hand-wringing like we do here. 
>They are poorer than us, but for some reason they seem much more relaxed and 
>content than we do.
>
>The difference is one of attitude and perception, not a difference of 
>reality.  And for some reason we love to wallow in - frankly - feelings of 
>doom, gloom and self-pity.
>
>I think it is quite fascinating, but not at all healthy.  And I wish I 
>understood why we do it, and how we can stop.

I think we need an army of psycologists for this.  Personnally I think
the media have a lot to do with it.

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> Over all you've had a pretty god run for the last 25
> years.  Certainly better than the previous 25 years.  Sure, a graph of the
> economy will show some spikes and some troughs, but the trend is decidedly
> up.

I think the point is, you wouldn't believe so from all the doom and gloom we 
hear about.

SteveT

Commander Gideon wrote:
> "Andrew"  wrote in message 
>> Stop reading the Daily Mail.

Completely agree. Odious rag :-(

> What? Read the Sun instead and see the latest in the empty lives of 
> Kerry,Jordan and Amy Winelake? 

For heavens sake nobody reads the Sun!.. they look at it!

And like staring at the yellow thing in the sky for any length of time, 
ye'll go blind....

:-p

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"Adrian C" <email@here.invalid> wrote in message 
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> Commander Gideon wrote:
>> "Andrew"  wrote in message
>>> Stop reading the Daily Mail.
>
> Completely agree. Odious rag :-(
>
>> What? Read the Sun instead and see the latest in the empty lives of 
>> Kerry,Jordan and Amy Winelake?
>
> For heavens sake nobody reads the Sun!.. they look at it!
>
The van drivers and talksport listeners,eh?

On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 14:32:11 +0100, Steve Thackery wrote:
>> Over all you've had a pretty god run for the last 25
>> years.  Certainly better than the previous 25 years.  Sure, a graph of the
>> economy will show some spikes and some troughs, but the trend is decidedly
>> up.
>
> I think the point is, you wouldn't believe so from all the doom and gloom we 
> hear about.

Yes, indeed. The odd thing is that the more you have, the more worried
you are about losing it. Negative emotions like jealousy, greed and fear
are much better motivators (for getting people to buy newspapers) than
happiness, contentment and wellbeing.

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"Commander Gideon"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Andrew"  wrote in message 
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>> On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 00:04:00 +0100, "John" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Is it just me, or is the UK a depressing place to be nowadays?  It seems 
>>>the
>>>UK is all doom and gloom and depressing all the time.
>>
>> Stop reading the Daily Mail.
>
> What? Read the Sun instead and see the latest in the empty lives of 
> Kerry,Jordan and Amy Winelake?
I never get past page 3

Steve Terry

In article <g28h5e$ffo$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
   Commander Gideon  wrote:
> What? Read the Sun instead and see the latest in the empty lives of 
> Kerry,Jordan and Amy Winelake? 

Am I the only one who doesn't know who you're talking about?

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"Steve Thackery"  wrote in message 
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:
: I think the point is, you wouldn't believe so from all the doom and gloom 
we
: hear about.

perhaps it's because of the Euro Tournament getting underway this year 
without England.  A pity.  If there were justice in this world England would 
always get a draw (think of the advertising money FIFA won't be receiving).