We live in High Wycombe.

We have Virgin TV - but have also used analog and also tried Freeview.

With Virgin we get BBC South (from Southampton) and Meridian as our 
standard regions. Neither of which appear ever to cover anything in this 
area. However, if we tune to London (which is what we would get 
receiving Freeview from Crystal Palace) we also get no sensible coverage.

By coverage, I mean mention in any of the local news services, shown in 
the local weather forecats, inclusion in any regional documentary 
programs or "what's on" lists, etc.

I have lived in many areas of the UK. Often the regional coverage has 
been poor. But even when I lived in Wales, Central covered us better 
than our current regions. When I lived in Winchester, the BBC South 
programs rattled on about Southampton almost to the exclusion of 
everywhere else - but not quite - they did mention other places from 
time to time. (And I think that might be better within their main area 
now than it used to be.)

Where does the problem lie?

Are we getting the "wrong" regions? I have tried looking at maps but the 
BBC's is so poor I cannot see which region we should be in.

Do the regions not know where they are supposed to cover? Do the staff 
in the studios think that Reading is as far north as they need go?

Is HW just so insignificant compared to London that it simply never 
figures on London-based programs?

Am I wrong to believe that the coverage should extend to the edges of a 
region and not just focus on the central cities?

I do accept that Meridian's Thames Valley studio in Reading seemed 
marginally more relevant than something from Kent. I also accept that 
the bombers trial has mentioned HW a few times - but on national news.

So, when we get fed up with VM and change to decent Freeview (without a 
huge aerial, please) or Freesat, what region(s) should we be trying to 
receive?

-- 
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious 
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
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On May 27, 10:21 am, Rod  wrote:
> Is HW just so insignificant compared to London that it simply never
> figures on London-based programs?

Nothing ever happens in High Wycombe apart from some drunk chavs
beating each other up on a saturday night.

B2003

"Rod"  wrote in message 
news:6a224rF35mgtrU1@mid.individual.net...
> We live in High Wycombe.
>
> We have Virgin TV - but have also used analog and also tried Freeview.
>
> With Virgin we get BBC South (from Southampton) and Meridian as our 
> standard regions. Neither of which appear ever to cover anything in this 
> area. However, if we tune to London (which is what we would get receiving 
> Freeview from Crystal Palace) we also get no sensible coverage.
>
> By coverage, I mean mention in any of the local news services, shown in 
> the local weather forecats, inclusion in any regional documentary programs 
> or "what's on" lists, etc.
>
> I have lived in many areas of the UK. Often the regional coverage has been 
> poor. But even when I lived in Wales, Central covered us better than our 
> current regions. When I lived in Winchester, the BBC South programs 
> rattled on about Southampton almost to the exclusion of everywhere else - 
> but not quite - they did mention other places from time to time. (And I 
> think that might be better within their main area now than it used to be.)
>
> Where does the problem lie?
>
> Are we getting the "wrong" regions? I have tried looking at maps but the 
> BBC's is so poor I cannot see which region we should be in.
>
> Do the regions not know where they are supposed to cover? Do the staff in 
> the studios think that Reading is as far north as they need go?
>
> Is HW just so insignificant compared to London that it simply never 
> figures on London-based programs?
>
> Am I wrong to believe that the coverage should extend to the edges of a 
> region and not just focus on the central cities?
>
> I do accept that Meridian's Thames Valley studio in Reading seemed 
> marginally more relevant than something from Kent. I also accept that the 
> bombers trial has mentioned HW a few times - but on national news.
>
> So, when we get fed up with VM and change to decent Freeview (without a 
> huge aerial, please) or Freesat, what region(s) should we be trying to 
> receive?
>
> -- 
> Rod

All 18 BBC1 regions and 4 BBC2 regions are available directly FTA from the 
Sky EPG.

"Malcolm H"  wrote in message 
news:jmR_j.31207$Ht.13057@newsfe05.ams2...
>
> "Rod"  wrote in message 
> news:6a224rF35mgtrU1@mid.individual.net...
>> We live in High Wycombe.
>>
>> We have Virgin TV - but have also used analog and also tried Freeview.
>>
>> With Virgin we get BBC South (from Southampton) and Meridian as our 
>> standard regions. Neither of which appear ever to cover anything in this 
>> area. However, if we tune to London (which is what we would get receiving 
>> Freeview from Crystal Palace) we also get no sensible coverage.
>>
>> By coverage, I mean mention in any of the local news services, shown in 
>> the local weather forecats, inclusion in any regional documentary 
>> programs or "what's on" lists, etc.
>>
>> I have lived in many areas of the UK. Often the regional coverage has 
>> been poor. But even when I lived in Wales, Central covered us better than 
>> our current regions. When I lived in Winchester, the BBC South programs 
>> rattled on about Southampton almost to the exclusion of everywhere else - 
>> but not quite - they did mention other places from time to time. (And I 
>> think that might be better within their main area now than it used to 
>> be.)
>>
>> Where does the problem lie?
>>
>> Are we getting the "wrong" regions? I have tried looking at maps but the 
>> BBC's is so poor I cannot see which region we should be in.
>>
>> Do the regions not know where they are supposed to cover? Do the staff in 
>> the studios think that Reading is as far north as they need go?
>>
>> Is HW just so insignificant compared to London that it simply never 
>> figures on London-based programs?
>>
>> Am I wrong to believe that the coverage should extend to the edges of a 
>> region and not just focus on the central cities?
>>
>> I do accept that Meridian's Thames Valley studio in Reading seemed 
>> marginally more relevant than something from Kent. I also accept that the 
>> bombers trial has mentioned HW a few times - but on national news.
>>
>> So, when we get fed up with VM and change to decent Freeview (without a 
>> huge aerial, please) or Freesat, what region(s) should we be trying to 
>> receive?
>>
>> -- 
>> Rod
>
> All 18 BBC1 regions and 4 BBC2 regions are available directly FTA from the 
> Sky EPG.
All 26 ITV regions may also be received FTA by the Sky digibox, see:
http://www.stevelarkins.freeuk.com/itv_regions_sky_digibox.htm

On May 27, 12:02 pm, "Malcolm H"  wrote:
> > All 18 BBC1 regions and 4 BBC2 regions are available directly FTA from the
> > Sky EPG.
>
> All 26 ITV regions may also be received FTA by the Sky digibox, see:http://www.stevelarkins.freeuk.com/itv_regions_sky_digibox.htm

As long as you don't mind forking out a packet and having a f*ck ugly
dish nailed to the side of your house.

B2003

> Where does the problem lie?
>
> Are we getting the "wrong" regions? I have tried looking at maps but the 
> BBC's is so poor I cannot see which region we should be in.
>
> Do the regions not know where they are supposed to cover? Do the staff in 
> the studios think that Reading is as far north as they need go?
>
> Is HW just so insignificant compared to London that it simply never 
> figures on London-based programs?
>
> Am I wrong to believe that the coverage should extend to the edges of a 
> region and not just focus on the central cities?
>
> I do accept that Meridian's Thames Valley studio in Reading seemed 
> marginally more relevant than something from Kent. I also accept that the 
> bombers trial has mentioned HW a few times - but on national news.
>
> So, when we get fed up with VM and change to decent Freeview (without a 
> huge aerial, please) or Freesat, what region(s) should we be trying to 
> receive?

You are within the service area of London TV (Crystal Palace) 
http://tx.mb21.co.uk/mapsys/anatv/crystalpalace.php
with Hannington available (BBC South and ITV1 Thames Valley) 
http://tx.mb21.co.uk/mapsys/anatv/hannington.php in some parts, and possibly 
Oxford (same region in the main as Hannington)

Your local relay stations all relay Crystal Palace i.e 
http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/high-wycombe.php

I live near Evesham in Worcestershire and our "local" news is all about 
Birmingham - when I live in Camberley neither London region nor South was 
any good for us. It's the consequnces of living in the sticks!

On thing's for sure, if something does happen in your area it will be on 
London TV before Southampton TV.

"Boltar"  wrote in message 
news:1f9bd014-c057-4d62-aeb8-c3075d3d8fe2@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On May 27, 12:02 pm, "Malcolm H"  wrote:
>> > All 18 BBC1 regions and 4 BBC2 regions are available directly FTA from 
>> > the
>> > Sky EPG.
>>
>> All 26 ITV regions may also be received FTA by the Sky digibox, 
>> see:http://www.stevelarkins.freeuk.com/itv_regions_sky_digibox.htm
>
> As long as you don't mind forking out a packet and having a f*ck ugly
> dish nailed to the side of your house.
>
> B2003

If you think a neatly fixed 60cm dish is more ugly than a multi-element Yagi 
on a pole at the highest point of the house then there is something 
seriously wrong with your eyesight!

It never ceases to amaze me that some people think a small elliptical object 
(probably fixed unobtrusively to the side of the house) is more 
objectionable that a long spiky object on top of the house. Must be a 
combination of stupidity and inverted snobbery!

On May 27, 12:49 pm, "Malcolm H"  wrote:
> If you think a neatly fixed 60cm dish is more ugly than a multi-element Yagi
> on a pole at the highest point of the house then there is something
> seriously wrong with your eyesight!

Never said they were pretty either , but its a case of also rather
than instead of. Anyway , an antenna on the chimney is  bit less
obvious than a large white dinner plate on the wall.

>
> It never ceases to amaze me that some people think a small elliptical object
> (probably fixed unobtrusively to the side of the house) is more
> objectionable that a long spiky object on top of the house. Must be a
> combination of stupidity and inverted snobbery!

No , they just look sh1t and when enough people have them it makes the
whole neighbourhood look like a chav version of NASA. But then its not
called council house TV for nothing.

B2003

"Malcolm H"  wrote in message 
news:1zS_j.29582$cZ3.21329@newsfe10.ams2...
>
> "Boltar"  wrote in message 
> news:1f9bd014-c057-4d62-aeb8-c3075d3d8fe2@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> On May 27, 12:02 pm, "Malcolm H"  wrote:
>>> > All 18 BBC1 regions and 4 BBC2 regions are available directly FTA from 
>>> > the
>>> > Sky EPG.
>>>
>>> All 26 ITV regions may also be received FTA by the Sky digibox, 
>>> see:http://www.stevelarkins.freeuk.com/itv_regions_sky_digibox.htm
>>
>> As long as you don't mind forking out a packet and having a f*ck ugly
>> dish nailed to the side of your house.
>>
>> B2003
>
> If you think a neatly fixed 60cm dish is more ugly than a multi-element 
> Yagi on a pole at the highest point of the house then there is something 
> seriously wrong with your eyesight!
>
> It never ceases to amaze me that some people think a small elliptical 
> object (probably fixed unobtrusively to the side of the house) is more 
> objectionable that a long spiky object on top of the house. Must be a 
> combination of stupidity and inverted snobbery!

By the way the dish and digibox can be installed for <£100 whereas a 
terrestrial aerial could cost substantially more. There are no ongoing costs 
for FTA or FTV reception.

"Boltar"  wrote in message 
news:ada7845c-407a-437e-8908-0bab846707b3@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
> On May 27, 12:49 pm, "Malcolm H"  wrote:
>> If you think a neatly fixed 60cm dish is more ugly than a multi-element 
>> Yagi
>> on a pole at the highest point of the house then there is something
>> seriously wrong with your eyesight!
>
> Never said they were pretty either , but its a case of also rather
> than instead of. Anyway , an antenna on the chimney is  bit less
> obvious than a large white dinner plate on the wall.

Possibly, but minidishes are small and dark gray, not large and white.

> No , they just look sh1t and when enough people have them it makes the
> whole neighbourhood look like a chav version of NASA. But then its not
> called council house TV for nothing.
I can assure you that there is scarely a house in the land in the £400k+ 
bracket (Yorkshire prices) that hasn't got a satellite dish. Penetration of 
Sky in that social group is virtually 100%, whereas on non-cabled council 
estates it runs at about 30%. The fact, if you can put your preconceptions 
aside, is that the majority of council house tenants can't afford Sky. Don't 
be mislead by counting the dishes. Many of these are disused due to the very 
high churn rates amongst Sky customers of that social group, and the rapid 
turn-over of tenancies. It also appears to the uninitiated that the dish 
density is high, but remember that the housing density is also high. The 
normal terraced (1970s-present) council house has a frontage of only 5.5m.

In non-DTT areas many dishes are for Freesat.

Bill

"Malcolm H"  wrote in message 
news:IFS_j.29585$cZ3.6775@newsfe10.ams2...
>
> By the way the dish and digibox can be installed for <£100 whereas a 
> terrestrial aerial could cost substantially more. There are no ongoing 
> costs for FTA or FTV reception.

Sky box costs £97 + VAT trade. Freesat box costs £36 + VAT trade. Dish pack, 
cable, sundries about £30. Installation £60 + VAT minimum. So £85 + VAT is a 
bit optimistic.

Bill

In article <ada7845c-407a-437e-8908-0bab846707b3@y38g2000hsy.googlegroup
s.com>, Boltar  scribeth thus
>On May 27, 12:49 pm, "Malcolm H"  wrote:
>> If you think a neatly fixed 60cm dish is more ugly than a multi-element Yagi
>> on a pole at the highest point of the house then there is something
>> seriously wrong with your eyesight!
>
>Never said they were pretty either , but its a case of also rather
>than instead of. Anyway , an antenna on the chimney is  bit less
>obvious than a large white dinner plate on the wall.
>
>>
>> It never ceases to amaze me that some people think a small elliptical object
>> (probably fixed unobtrusively to the side of the house) is more
>> objectionable that a long spiky object on top of the house. Must be a
>> combination of stupidity and inverted snobbery!
>
>No , they just look sh1t and when enough people have them it makes the
>whole neighbourhood look like a chav version of NASA. But then its not
>called council house TV for nothing.
>
>B2003
>

And thereby hangs the problem.....

Q. What's that thing hanging on the end of a Sky dish called?..





A. A council house!....
-- 
Tony Sayer

On May 27, 1:15 pm, "Bill Wright" 
wrote:
> I can assure you that there is scarely a house in the land in the £400k> bracket (Yorkshire prices) that hasn't got a satellite dish. Penetration of

Yourshire prices? Well that'll be about a dozen stately homes and
castles then.

However I can find you a ton of streets in and above that price range
here in london that don't have any sort of satellite dish. And I'm not
talking about conservation areas either.

> In non-DTT areas many dishes are for Freesat.

That would be impressive given it was only launched a few weeks back
and the receivers arn't even in the shops yet.

B2003

On Tue, 27 May 2008 05:51:04 -0700 (PDT), Boltar
 wrote:

>... and the receivers arn't even in the shops yet.

Rubbish!

-- 
Alan White
Mozilla Firefox and Forte Agent.
Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland.
Webcam and weather:- http://windycroft.gt-britain.co.uk/weather

Doctor D wrote:
> 
>> Where does the problem lie?
>>
>> Are we getting the "wrong" regions? I have tried looking at maps but 
>> the BBC's is so poor I cannot see which region we should be in.
>>
>> Do the regions not know where they are supposed to cover? Do the staff 
>> in the studios think that Reading is as far north as they need go?
>>
>> Is HW just so insignificant compared to London that it simply never 
>> figures on London-based programs?
>>
>> Am I wrong to believe that the coverage should extend to the edges of 
>> a region and not just focus on the central cities?
>>
>> I do accept that Meridian's Thames Valley studio in Reading seemed 
>> marginally more relevant than something from Kent. I also accept that 
>> the bombers trial has mentioned HW a few times - but on national news.
>>
>> So, when we get fed up with VM and change to decent Freeview (without 
>> a huge aerial, please) or Freesat, what region(s) should we be trying 
>> to receive?
> 
> You are within the service area of London TV (Crystal Palace) 
> http://tx.mb21.co.uk/mapsys/anatv/crystalpalace.php
> with Hannington available (BBC South and ITV1 Thames Valley) 
> http://tx.mb21.co.uk/mapsys/anatv/hannington.php in some parts, and 
> possibly Oxford (same region in the main as Hannington)
> 
> Your local relay stations all relay Crystal Palace i.e 
> http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/high-wycombe.php
> 
> I live near Evesham in Worcestershire and our "local" news is all about 
> Birmingham - when I live in Camberley neither London region nor South 
> was any good for us. It's the consequnces of living in the sticks!
> 
> On thing's for sure, if something does happen in your area it will be on 
> London TV before Southampton TV.

Yes - Crystal Palace - we could get 2 muxes with a huge aerial. In the 
winter (no leaves).

Hannington - no chance here.

Oxford - maybe but no-one else nearby appears to have an aerial pointing 
in that direction.

Local relay - no chance - goes over the top of us.

I don't really expect to hear much about HW - but when even the weather 
forecasts miss us, and there is usually nothing about any of the other 
"next down the road" towns in the area (e.g. Uxbridge, Maidenhead, 
Marlow, Aylesbury, Oxford, Beaconsfield, Amersham) - nor is 
Buckinghamshire even mentioned most of the time.

London coverage really does not extend out to the M25 - let alone further.

-- 
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious 
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
<www.thyromind.info> <www.thyroiduk.org> <www.altsupportthyroid.org>

"Rod"  wrote in message 
news:6a2g72F32rft1U1@mid.individual.net...
> Doctor D wrote:
>>
>>> Where does the problem lie?
>>>
>>> Are we getting the "wrong" regions? I have tried looking at maps but the 
>>> BBC's is so poor I cannot see which region we should be in.
>>>
>>> Do the regions not know where they are supposed to cover? Do the staff 
>>> in the studios think that Reading is as far north as they need go?
>>>
>>> Is HW just so insignificant compared to London that it simply never 
>>> figures on London-based programs?
>>>
>>> Am I wrong to believe that the coverage should extend to the edges of a 
>>> region and not just focus on the central cities?
>>>
>>> I do accept that Meridian's Thames Valley studio in Reading seemed 
>>> marginally more relevant than something from Kent. I also accept that 
>>> the bombers trial has mentioned HW a few times - but on national news.
>>>
>>> So, when we get fed up with VM and change to decent Freeview (without a 
>>> huge aerial, please) or Freesat, what region(s) should we be trying to 
>>> receive?
>>
>> You are within the service area of London TV (Crystal Palace) 
>> http://tx.mb21.co.uk/mapsys/anatv/crystalpalace.php
>> with Hannington available (BBC South and ITV1 Thames Valley) 
>> http://tx.mb21.co.uk/mapsys/anatv/hannington.php in some parts, and 
>> possibly Oxford (same region in the main as Hannington)
>>
>> Your local relay stations all relay Crystal Palace i.e 
>> http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/high-wycombe.php
>>
>> I live near Evesham in Worcestershire and our "local" news is all about 
>> Birmingham - when I live in Camberley neither London region nor South was 
>> any good for us. It's the consequnces of living in the sticks!
>>
>> On thing's for sure, if something does happen in your area it will be on 
>> London TV before Southampton TV.
>
> Yes - Crystal Palace - we could get 2 muxes with a huge aerial. In the 
> winter (no leaves).
>
> Hannington - no chance here.
>
> Oxford - maybe but no-one else nearby appears to have an aerial pointing 
> in that direction.
>
> Local relay - no chance - goes over the top of us.
>
> I don't really expect to hear much about HW - but when even the weather 
> forecasts miss us, and there is usually nothing about any of the other 
> "next down the road" towns in the area (e.g. Uxbridge, Maidenhead, Marlow, 
> Aylesbury, Oxford, Beaconsfield, Amersham) - nor is Buckinghamshire even 
> mentioned most of the time.
>
> London coverage really does not extend out to the M25 - let alone further.
>
> -- 
> Rod

Rod, for less than £50 you can get everything you need to receive all 
regional BBC and ITV channels plus all the radio channels and a hundred or 
so other TV channels.

See: 
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Complete-Satellite-Receiver-Sky-Digibox-and-Dish-Set_W0QQitemZ320255179120QQihZ011QQcategoryZ96970QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Installing it is not rocket science, see: http://www.satcure.co.uk/

Forget terrestrial and open up your life.

Boltar wrote:
> On May 27, 1:15 pm, "Bill Wright" 
> wrote:
>> I can assure you that there is scarely a house in the land in the
>> £400k+ bracket (Yorkshire prices) that hasn't got a satellite dish.
>> Penetration of
>
> Yourshire prices? Well that'll be about a dozen stately homes and
> castles then.
>
> However I can find you a ton of streets in and above that price range
> here in london that don't have any sort of satellite dish. And I'm not
> talking about conservation areas either.
>
>> In non-DTT areas many dishes are for Freesat.
>
> That would be impressive given it was only launched a few weeks back
> and the receivers arn't even in the shops yet.
>
> B2003

Your ignorance is astounding.

"Boltar"  wrote in message 
news:419b6149-8395-400e-acd8-9396978e61b4@e39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On May 27, 1:15 pm, "Bill Wright" 
wrote:

>However I can find you a ton of streets in and above that price range
here in london that don't have any sort of satellite dish. And I'm not
talking about conservation areas either.

No doubt using cable, or hidden dishes. The thing about hidden dishes is, 
you can't see 'em. Believe me, Mr Rich Kid likes his Sky.

> In non-DTT areas many dishes are for Freesat.

>That would be impressive given it was only launched a few weeks back
and the receivers arn't even in the shops yet.

Firstly I mean Sky Freesat (as you well know) and secondly we have piles of 
the receivers here.

Bill

Boltar wrote:
> On May 27, 10:21 am, Rod  wrote:
>> Is HW just so insignificant compared to London that it simply never
>> figures on London-based programs?
> 
> Nothing ever happens in High Wycombe apart from some drunk chavs
> beating each other up on a saturday night.
> 
> B2003

I could easily agree with you most of the time.

-- 
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious 
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
<www.thyromind.info> <www.thyroiduk.org> <www.altsupportthyroid.org>

Well Virgin are always doing this to people I understand. Its not just tv, 
they moved someone in Derby recently so his broadband location was in 
Dublin, making it impossible for him to see anything on the BBC I player.



I was just trying to recall where High W. was in those early days. Thought 
it was London fed.

Brian

-- 
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Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name may be lost.
Blind user, so no pictures please!
"Rod"  wrote in message 
news:6a224rF35mgtrU1@mid.individual.net...
> We live in High Wycombe.
>
> We have Virgin TV - but have also used analog and also tried Freeview.
>
> With Virgin we get BBC South (from Southampton) and Meridian as our 
> standard regions. Neither of which appear ever to cover anything in this 
> area. However, if we tune to London (which is what we would get receiving 
> Freeview from Crystal Palace) we also get no sensible coverage.
>
> By coverage, I mean mention in any of the local news services, shown in 
> the local weather forecats, inclusion in any regional documentary programs 
> or "what's on" lists, etc.
>
> I have lived in many areas of the UK. Often the regional coverage has been 
> poor. But even when I lived in Wales, Central covered us better than our 
> current regions. When I lived in Winchester, the BBC South programs 
> rattled on about Southampton almost to the exclusion of everywhere else - 
> but not quite - they did mention other places from time to time. (And I 
> think that might be better within their main area now than it used to be.)
>
> Where does the problem lie?
>
> Are we getting the "wrong" regions? I have tried looking at maps but the 
> BBC's is so poor I cannot see which region we should be in.
>
> Do the regions not know where they are supposed to cover? Do the staff in 
> the studios think that Reading is as far north as they need go?
>
> Is HW just so insignificant compared to London that it simply never 
> figures on London-based programs?
>
> Am I wrong to believe that the coverage should extend to the edges of a 
> region and not just focus on the central cities?
>
> I do accept that Meridian's Thames Valley studio in Reading seemed 
> marginally more relevant than something from Kent. I also accept that the 
> bombers trial has mentioned HW a few times - but on national news.
>
> So, when we get fed up with VM and change to decent Freeview (without a 
> huge aerial, please) or Freesat, what region(s) should we be trying to 
> receive?
>
> -- 
> Rod
>
> Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious 
> onset.
> Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
> <www.thyromind.info> <www.thyroiduk.org> <www.altsupportthyroid.org>

On May 27, 3:01 pm, "Adrian"  wrote:
> Boltar wrote:
> > On May 27, 1:15 pm, "Bill Wright" 
> > wrote:
> >> I can assure you that there is scarely a house in the land in the
> >> £400k bracket (Yorkshire prices) that hasn't got a satellite dish.
> >> Penetration of
>
> > Yourshire prices? Well that'll be about a dozen stately homes and
> > castles then.
>
> > However I can find you a ton of streets in and above that price range
> > here in london that don't have any sort of satellite dish. And I'm not
> > talking about conservation areas either.
>
> >> In non-DTT areas many dishes are for Freesat.
>
> > That would be impressive given it was only launched a few weeks back
> > and the receivers arn't even in the shops yet.
>
> > B2003
>
> Your ignorance is astounding.

Really? Well I went down the local comet superstore at lunchtime and
there were precisely zero on sale.

B2003

Boltar wrote:
> On May 27, 3:01 pm, "Adrian"  wrote:
>> Boltar wrote:
>>> On May 27, 1:15 pm, "Bill Wright" 
>>> wrote:
>>>> I can assure you that there is scarely a house in the land in the
>>>> £400k+ bracket (Yorkshire prices) that hasn't got a satellite dish.
>>>> Penetration of
>>
>>> Yourshire prices? Well that'll be about a dozen stately homes and
>>> castles then.
>>
>>> However I can find you a ton of streets in and above that price
>>> range here in london that don't have any sort of satellite dish.
>>> And I'm not talking about conservation areas either.
>>
>>>> In non-DTT areas many dishes are for Freesat.
>>
>>> That would be impressive given it was only launched a few weeks back
>>> and the receivers arn't even in the shops yet.
>>
>>> B2003
>>
>> Your ignorance is astounding.
>
> Really? Well I went down the local comet superstore at lunchtime and
> there were precisely zero on sale.
>
> B2003

Maybe they'd sold out, I bought mine more than a week ago.

> So, when we get fed up with VM and change to decent Freeview (without a
> huge aerial, please) or Freesat, what region(s) should we be trying to 
> receive?
>
>

Amongst all the rather hyperbolic responses, nobody has mentioned that with 
Freesat (as opposed to Freesat from Sky) you choose regionalisation by 
inputting a postcode to the box.  An important difference.

If you want to be in Belfast or Aberdeen or Oxford, you can.  Just enter a 
valid postcode....and Channels 101/103 will reflect that.  (before some 
clever dick points it out, not all  BEEB/ITV regions are available in the 
freesat EPG yet, but they allegedly will be very soon.)

"Boltar"  wrote in message 
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On May 27, 3:01 pm, "Adrian"  wrote:
> Boltar wrote:
> > On May 27, 1:15 pm, "Bill Wright" 
> > wrote:
> >> I can assure you that there is scarely a house in the land in the
> >> £400k+ bracket (Yorkshire prices) that hasn't got a satellite dish.
> >> Penetration of
>
> > Yourshire prices? Well that'll be about a dozen stately homes and
> > castles then.
>
> > However I can find you a ton of streets in and above that price range
> > here in london that don't have any sort of satellite dish. And I'm not
> > talking about conservation areas either.
>
> >> In non-DTT areas many dishes are for Freesat.
>
> > That would be impressive given it was only launched a few weeks back
> > and the receivers arn't even in the shops yet.
>
> > B2003
>
> Your ignorance is astounding.

>Really? Well I went down the local comet superstore at lunchtime and
there were precisely zero on sale.

Don't be such a clot.

Bill

Vortex2 wrote:
>> So, when we get fed up with VM and change to decent Freeview (without a
>> huge aerial, please) or Freesat, what region(s) should we be trying to 
>> receive?
>>
>>
> 
> Amongst all the rather hyperbolic responses, nobody has mentioned that with 
> Freesat (as opposed to Freesat from Sky) you choose regionalisation by 
> inputting a postcode to the box.  An important difference.
> 
> If you want to be in Belfast or Aberdeen or Oxford, you can.  Just enter a 
> valid postcode....and Channels 101/103 will reflect that.  (before some 
> clever dick points it out, not all  BEEB/ITV regions are available in the 
> freesat EPG yet, but they allegedly will be very soon.)
> 
> 
> 
Thanks - I appreciate that. But I still don't know which regions I 
*should* be in! They all ignore us. :-(

-- 
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"Boltar"  wrote in message 
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On May 27, 1:15 pm, "Bill Wright" 
wrote:
> I can assure you that there is scarely a house in the land in the £400k+
> bracket (Yorkshire prices) that hasn't got a satellite dish. Penetration 
> of

Yourshire prices? Well that'll be about a dozen stately homes and
castles then.

However I can find you a ton of streets in and above that price range
here in london that don't have any sort of satellite dish. And I'm not
talking about conservation areas either.

> In non-DTT areas many dishes are for Freesat.

That would be impressive given it was only launched a few weeks back
and the receivers arn't even in the shops yet.

My parents have had "free Sky" for years. You won't see their Sky dish from 
the road, but you can see a Triax Unix 52A towering over the roof.
Likewise, my dish is visible only from the rear corner of my house.

I agree that a terrace of houses with dishes on the front looks ugly, but 
for that blame installers getting the things on the wall as fast as possible 
and scarpering, and the householders for allowing them!

"Vortex2"  wrote in message 
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>
>> So, when we get fed up with VM and change to decent Freeview (without a
>> huge aerial, please) or Freesat, what region(s) should we be trying to 
>> receive?
>>
>>
>
> Amongst all the rather hyperbolic responses, nobody has mentioned that 
> with Freesat (as opposed to Freesat from Sky) you choose regionalisation 
> by inputting a postcode to the box.  An important difference.
>
> If you want to be in Belfast or Aberdeen or Oxford, you can.  Just enter a 
> valid postcode....and Channels 101/103 will reflect that.  (before some 
> clever dick points it out, not all  BEEB/ITV regions are available in the 
> freesat EPG yet, but they allegedly will be very soon.)
>


Further, certainly with the Humax, you can have a favourites list with 
mutiple versions of BBC1. You may find it more difficult to have multiple 
versions of ITV1 essentially because ITV is obliged to provide a regional 
service to meet their PSB obligations.


-- 
Michael Chare

Rod wrote:
>
> Thanks - I appreciate that. But I still don't know which regions I 
> *should* be in! They all ignore us. :-(

High Wycombe is officially in the BBC and ITV London regions, but both 
broadcasters ignore much of what goes on outside the M25 on their 
'London' news programmes.

You want to live here pal.

BBC believe Harrogate is in Yorkshire so we get BBC Leeds.

BBC believe York is in Yorkshire so gets BBC Leeds

ITV believe Harrogate is in Tyneside so we get Tyne Tees

ITV believe York is in Yorkshire so get Yorkshire TV

Harrogate is 16 miles from Leeds, York is 34.


Work that one out!!



-- 
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com

Woody wrote:
> You want to live here pal.
> 
> BBC believe Harrogate is in Yorkshire so we get BBC Leeds.
> 
> BBC believe York is in Yorkshire so gets BBC Leeds
> 
> ITV believe Harrogate is in Tyneside so we get Tyne Tees
> 
> ITV believe York is in Yorkshire so get Yorkshire TV
> 
> Harrogate is 16 miles from Leeds, York is 34.
> 
> 
> Work that one out!!
> 

How did you guess?

(Born in a city in North Yorkshire on the River Ure. But would prefer 
somewhere a bit nearer the coast, please.)

It is mad - I'd say that if they actually provide some coverage it might 
be acceptable. Having lived for a while in Harrogate, umm, I can't 
remember if they do or not. :-)

-- 
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious 
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
<www.thyromind.info> <www.thyroiduk.org> <www.altsupportthyroid.org>

On Tue, 27 May 2008 19:58:28 +0100, Woody  wrote:

> You want to live here pal.
> 
> BBC believe Harrogate is in Yorkshire so we get BBC Leeds.
> 
> BBC believe York is in Yorkshire so gets BBC Leeds
> 
> ITV believe Harrogate is in Tyneside so we get Tyne Tees
> 
> ITV believe York is in Yorkshire so get Yorkshire TV
> 
> Harrogate is 16 miles from Leeds, York is 34.
> 
> Work that one out!!

ITV are idiots. But we knew that anyway...

On 27 May, 17:55, "Bill Wright"  wrote:
> >Really? Well I went down the local comet superstore at lunchtime and
>
> there were precisely zero on sale.
>
> Don't be such a clot.
>
> Bill


You calling me a lair?

B2003

On 27 May, 17:25, "Adrian"  wrote:
> Boltar wrote:
> > On May 27, 3:01 pm, "Adrian"  wrote:
> >> Boltar wrote:
> >>> On May 27, 1:15 pm, "Bill Wright" 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> I can assure you that there is scarely a house in the land in the
> >>>> £400k bracket (Yorkshire prices) that hasn't got a satellite dish.> >>>> Penetration of
>
> >>> Yourshire prices? Well that'll be about a dozen stately homes and
> >>> castles then.
>
> >>> However I can find you a ton of streets in and above that price
> >>> range here in london that don't have any sort of satellite dish.
> >>> And I'm not talking about conservation areas either.
>
> >>>> In non-DTT areas many dishes are for Freesat.
>
> >>> That would be impressive given it was only launched a few weeks back
> >>> and the receivers arn't even in the shops yet.
>
> >>> B2003
>
> >> Your ignorance is astounding.
>
> > Really? Well I went down the local comet superstore at lunchtime and
> > there were precisely zero on sale.
>
> > B2003
>
> Maybe they'd sold out, I bought mine more than a week ago.

What model/manufacturer and where from?

B2003

wrote in message 
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> On 27 May, 17:55, "Bill Wright"  wrote:
>> >Really? Well I went down the local comet superstore at lunchtime and
>>
>> there were precisely zero on sale.
>>
>> Don't be such a clot.
>>
>> Bill
>
>
> You calling me a lair?
>
> B2003

As in the video game, or the animal den?

On 27 May, 21:20, "Doctor D"  wrote:
>  wrote in message
>
> news:d22e4b75-e7ce-48ac-bcbf-34d5ec5c6d36@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On 27 May, 17:55, "Bill Wright"  wrote:
> >> >Really? Well I went down the local comet superstore at lunchtime and
>
> >> there were precisely zero on sale.
>
> >> Don't be such a clot.
>
> >> Bill
>
> > You calling me a lair?
>
> > B2003
>
> As in the video game, or the animal den?

Funny. Fact is freesat boxes are only just appearing in the shops and
there were none in the Comet I visited. Not surprising since it was
only launched 2 weeks ago.

B2003

Woody wrote:

> Harrogate is 16 miles from Leeds, York is 34.

And you can't receive BBC Radio Leeds in Harrogate, but you can get BBC 
Radio York (or whatever they call it these days)

Mark Carver wrote:
> Woody wrote:
> 
>> Harrogate is 16 miles from Leeds, York is 34.
> 
> And you can't receive BBC Radio Leeds in Harrogate, but you can get BBC 
> Radio York (or whatever they call it these days)

OMG - you have reminded me of allowing my RDS radio to get traffic 
announcements up that area. I used to pick up so many stations that it 
felt like 59 minutes of every hour was filled up by them.

-- 
Rod

Hypothyroidism is a seriously debilitating condition with an insidious 
onset.
Although common it frequently goes undiagnosed.
<www.thyromind.info> <www.thyroiduk.org> <www.altsupportthyroid.org>

On 27 May,  
     thagor2008@googlemail.com wrote:


> Funny. Fact is freesat boxes are only just appearing in the shops and
> there were none in the Comet I visited. Not surprising since it was
> only launched 2 weeks ago.
> 
> B2003

There were at least two humax HD ones at the computer fair I was at on
Sunday, and at least one model of SD one.

-- 
  BD
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On 27 May,  
     Rod  wrote:

> It is mad - I'd say that if they actually provide some coverage it might 
> be acceptable. Having lived for a while in Harrogate, umm, I can't 
> remember if they do or not. :-)

Editorially the areas seem merged these days, just a different presentation
order. I watch supposedly Newcastle's output but get Selby, Scarborough
Leeds, York etc news as well. 


-- 
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wrote in message 
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> On 27 May, 17:55, "Bill Wright"  wrote:
>> >Really? Well I went down the local comet superstore at lunchtime and
>>
>> there were precisely zero on sale.
>>
>> Don't be such a clot.
>>
>> Bill
>
>
> You calling me a lair?

Maybe you should scuttle off back to yours.

Bill

On Tue, 27 May 2008 22:21:40 +0100, Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid>
wrote:


I thought so too.

In message , Bill Wright 
 writes
>
> wrote in message
>news:d22e4b75-e7ce-48ac-bcbf-34d5ec5c6d36@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>> On 27 May, 17:55, "Bill Wright"  wrote:
>>> >Really? Well I went down the local comet superstore at lunchtime and
>>>
>>> there were precisely zero on sale.
>>>
>>> Don't be such a clot.
>>>
>>> Bill
>>
>>
>> You calling me a lair?
>
>Maybe you should scuttle off back to yours.
>
>Bill
>
>
Not till next Monday, I suspect.
-- 
Ian

"Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
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> Woody wrote:
>
>> Harrogate is 16 miles from Leeds, York is 34.
>
> And you can't receive BBC Radio Leeds in Harrogate, but you can get 
> BBC Radio York (or whatever they call it these days)


Well, you can get Leeds, so long as Regional is set on on the car radio.

But there again R Leeds does not report Harrogate which York does, and 
that is ESPECIALLY annoying for traffic reports. Daft thing is far more 
people work in Leeds and live in Harrogate than work in York and live in 
Harrogate. You only need to try driving to either in the morning - or 
try to catch a train for that matter - and you soon find out!



-- 
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com

wrote in message 
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> On 27 May,
>     Rod  wrote:
>
>> It is mad - I'd say that if they actually provide some coverage it 
>> might
>> be acceptable. Having lived for a while in Harrogate, umm, I can't
>> remember if they do or not. :-)
>
> Editorially the areas seem merged these days, just a different 
> presentation
> order. I watch supposedly Newcastle's output but get Selby, 
> Scarborough
> Leeds, York etc news as well.
>
>
.... yes but with a Geordie accent!


-- 
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com

In article 
, 
Boltar  writes

>Anyway , an antenna on the chimney is  bit less
>obvious than a large white dinner plate on the wall.
>
Paint it blue and write something on it about someone famous.  ;-)
-- 
Kennedy
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's pissed.
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