After complaining about the BBC regional  news programme Look North 
(Newcastle) being replaced by North West ( Manchester) we are pleased to 
announce that we have our regular programme back.

"Phister"  wrote in message 
news:eKGdnUNJ0bRkB3TXnZ2dnUVZ8iKdnZ2d@bt.com...
: After complaining about the BBC regional  news programme Look 
North
: (Newcastle) being replaced by North West ( Manchester) we are 
pleased to
: announce that we have our regular programme back.
:

If only Oxford and Banbury could also get more relevant local 
content and the south coast stop getting 'news' about/from 
locations up to 100 miles inland!

In article <hcc77k$s01$2@news.eternal-september.org>,
   Jerry <mapson.scarts@btinternet.com.INVALID> wrote:
> If only Oxford and Banbury could also get more relevant local 
> content and the south coast stop getting 'news' about/from 
> locations up to 100 miles inland! 

Be glad you don't live in London. There's virtually no local news there.

-- 
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    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (News)"  wrote in message 
news:50b1eaaa0adave@davenoise.co.uk...
: In article <hcc77k$s01$2@news.eternal-september.org>,
:   Jerry <mapson.scarts@btinternet.com.INVALID> wrote:
: > If only Oxford and Banbury could also get more relevant local
: > content and the south coast stop getting 'news' about/from
: > locations up to 100 miles inland!
:
: Be glad you don't live in London. There's virtually no local 
news there.
:

Even better, assuming that you mean that your local news is 
really national news with a local 'Happening here (in Westminster 
etc.)' type spin to it?!

In article <hcch2f$f6u$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
   Jerry <mapson.scarts@btinternet.com.INVALID> wrote:

> "Dave Plowman (News)"  wrote in message 
> news:50b1eaaa0adave@davenoise.co.uk...
> : In article <hcc77k$s01$2@news.eternal-september.org>,
> :   Jerry <mapson.scarts@btinternet.com.INVALID> wrote:
> : > If only Oxford and Banbury could also get more relevant local
> : > content and the south coast stop getting 'news' about/from
> : > locations up to 100 miles inland!
> :
> : Be glad you don't live in London. There's virtually no local 
> news there.
> :

> Even better, assuming that you mean that your local news is 
> really national news with a local 'Happening here (in Westminster 
> etc.)' type spin to it?!

More that London has a population greater than Scotland but only one local
news service. Can't remember the last time I saw news on there which was
truly local to me.

-- 
*Ham and Eggs: Just a day's work for a chicken, but a lifetime commitment

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (News)"  wrote in message 
news:50b1ec7999dave@davenoise.co.uk...
> In article <hcch2f$f6u$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
>   Jerry <mapson.scarts@btinternet.com.INVALID> wrote:
> More that London has a population greater than Scotland but only one local
> news service. Can't remember the last time I saw news on there which was
> truly local to me.

Well, go and shoot up an infants school near your home.

Bill

In article ,
   Bill Wright  wrote:

> "Dave Plowman (News)"  wrote in message 
> news:50b1ec7999dave@davenoise.co.uk...
> > In article <hcch2f$f6u$1@news.eternal-september.org>, Jerry
> > <mapson.scarts@btinternet.com.INVALID> wrote: More that London has a
> > population greater than Scotland but only one local news service.
> > Can't remember the last time I saw news on there which was truly local
> > to me.

> Well, go and shoot up an infants school near your home.

That would be a waste of time - it's half term here.

-- 
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    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:01:25 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

> More that London has a population greater than Scotland but only one 
> local news service. 

Does Scotland have more than one "local" news service? 

> Can't remember the last time I saw news on there which was truly local 
> to me.

They really ought to rebrand these services regional not local.

-- 
Cheers
Dave.

In article ,
   Dave Liquorice  wrote:
> > More that London has a population greater than Scotland but only one 
> > local news service. 

> Does Scotland have more than one "local" news service? 

Yes.

-- 
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    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

"Dave Plowman (News)"  wrote in message 
news:50b1fc3607dave@davenoise.co.uk...
> In article ,
>   Bill Wright  wrote:
>
>> "Dave Plowman (News)"  wrote in message
>> news:50b1ec7999dave@davenoise.co.uk...
>> > In article <hcch2f$f6u$1@news.eternal-september.org>, Jerry
>> > <mapson.scarts@btinternet.com.INVALID> wrote: More that London has a
>> > population greater than Scotland but only one local news service.
>> > Can't remember the last time I saw news on there which was truly local
>> > to me.
>
>> Well, go and shoot up an infants school near your home.
>
> That would be a waste of time - it's half term here.

Well wait until its a training day and shoot all the teachers.

Bill

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 03:16:35 -0000, "Bill Wright"
 wrote:

>Well wait until its a training day and shoot all the teachers.

Bill, firstly, DON'T say stuff like that - you have no idea of the
mental states of anyone who might be reading and what you could
inspire.

Secondly, is there any chance that you could take your arguments with
other posters somewhere else, instead of constantly derailing what are
otherwise quite interesting and relevant discussions?
--

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 03:16:35 -0000, "Bill Wright"
 wrote:

>Well wait until its a training day and shoot all the teachers.

>Bill, firstly, DON'T say stuff like that - you have no idea of the
mental states of anyone who might be reading and what you could
inspire.

No-one contributing to any mass or semi-mass medium has any idea of the
mental states of anyone who might be receiving their message, and there are
obvious dangers. But what are we to do? In this case, we would have to ban
all news reports that mentioned Dunblaine-type incidents; not have
documentaries about that sort of thing; not have films or dramas about
sieges; and so on. It just isn't feasible. Really, if someone is so mentally
disturbed that they might commit a massacre, and if they have a weapon, they
are inevitably going to be triggered at some point.

>Secondly, is there any chance that you could take your arguments with
other posters somewhere else, instead of constantly derailing what are
otherwise quite interesting and relevant discussions?

No, I like things as they are.The word 'derail' is invidious and
inaccurate.What you are objecting to is an inevitable and valuable part of
Usenet: people will join an interesting discussion and broaden the terms of
reference, and thus make the discussion more interesting.

Bill
--

Jerry wrote:
> "Dave Plowman (News)"  wrote in message 
> news:50b1eaaa0adave@davenoise.co.uk...
> : In article <hcc77k$s01$2@news.eternal-september.org>,
> :   Jerry <mapson.scarts@btinternet.com.INVALID> wrote:
> : > If only Oxford and Banbury could also get more relevant local
> : > content and the south coast stop getting 'news' about/from
> : > locations up to 100 miles inland!
> :
> : Be glad you don't live in London. There's virtually no local 
> news there.
> :
> 
> Even better, assuming that you mean that your local news is 
> really national news with a local 'Happening here (in Westminster 
> etc.)' type spin to it?! 

People often go on about the pro-London bias from everywhere from Thurso 
to the Gower but it has to be said that London should have local news 
just the same as anywhere else. And local radio stations as well. 
Capital used to be such, but not really any more. Virgin (now Absolute) 
never really was. LBC is OK if you want talk...

-- 

I'm not apathetic... I just don't give a sh** anymore

?John Wright

Dave Liquorice wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:01:25 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> 
>> More that London has a population greater than Scotland but only one 
>> local news service. 
> 
> Does Scotland have more than one "local" news service? 

Probably not. If you speak Gallic then you can have somewhat local 
radion from Inverness, but otherwise its all Central Belt stuff.

>> Can't remember the last time I saw news on there which was truly local 
>> to me.
> 
> They really ought to rebrand these services regional not local.


Indeed.


-- 

I'm not apathetic... I just don't give a sh** anymore

?John Wright

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article ,
>    Dave Liquorice  wrote:
>>> More that London has a population greater than Scotland but only one 
>>> local news service. 
> 
>> Does Scotland have more than one "local" news service? 
> 
> Yes.

True if you live in the Central Belt, bit different if you live a bit 
further North than that. I'm reminded that Raigmore Hospital in 
Inverness has a catchment area of 250,000 people. So would a really 
local news service. There is always MFR.

-- 

I'm not apathetic... I just don't give a sh** anymore

?John Wright

The message 
from johnwright <""john\"@no spam here.com"> contains these words:

> Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> > In article ,
> >    Dave Liquorice  wrote:
> >>> More that London has a population greater than Scotland but only one 
> >>> local news service. 
> > 
> >> Does Scotland have more than one "local" news service? 
> > 
> > Yes.

> True if you live in the Central Belt, bit different if you live a bit 
> further North than that. I'm reminded that Raigmore Hospital in 
> Inverness has a catchment area of 250,000 people. So would a really 
> local news service. There is always MFR.


Inverness does their own local news several times a day and it is heard
in the Highlands, Western Isles and Islay.  Orkney and Shetland also do
their own local programmes each day.  Also available online of course.

In article ,
   johnwright <john\@no spam here.com> wrote:
> Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> > In article ,
> >    Dave Liquorice  wrote:
> >>> More that London has a population greater than Scotland but only one 
> >>> local news service. 
> > 
> >> Does Scotland have more than one "local" news service? 
> > 
> > Yes.

> True if you live in the Central Belt, bit different if you live a bit 
> further North than that. I'm reminded that Raigmore Hospital in 
> Inverness has a catchment area of 250,000 people. So would a really 
> local news service. There is always MFR.

I live in the borough of Wandsworth in London - population about a million.
No local news service here. Using your definition there should be four.

-- 
*A bartender is just a pharmacist with a limited inventory.

    Dave Plowman        dave@davenoise.co.uk           London SW
                  To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article , Johnwright wrote:
> People often go on about the pro-London bias from everywhere from Thurso 
> to the Gower but it has to be said that London should have local news 
> just the same as anywhere else

I thought it already had. They just call it national news.

According to the BBC website, Britain was supposed to brace itself for 
terrible storms with heavy rain yesterday, and we should move all our 
valuables upstairs in case of floods and not go out on the roads unless we 
absolutely had to, etc, etc.

It turned out that what they meant was *the south of England* would have 
terrible storms etc etc. All we got up here in Liverpool was a rather 
unremarkable dull damp day.

Rod.
-- 
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http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtual-access/

Roderick Stewart wrote:
> In article , Johnwright wrote:
>> People often go on about the pro-London bias from everywhere from Thurso 
>> to the Gower but it has to be said that London should have local news 
>> just the same as anywhere else
> 
> I thought it already had. They just call it national news.
> 
> According to the BBC website, Britain was supposed to brace itself for 
> terrible storms with heavy rain yesterday, and we should move all our 
> valuables upstairs in case of floods and not go out on the roads unless we 
> absolutely had to, etc, etc.
> 
> It turned out that what they meant was *the south of England* would have 
> terrible storms etc etc. All we got up here in Liverpool was a rather 
> unremarkable dull damp day.

Whilst we had quite a nice, mild, sunny day!

-- 

I'm not apathetic... I just don't give a sh** anymore

?John Wright

On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:44:44 -0000, Roderick Stewart wrote:

> It turned out that what they meant was *the south of England* would have 
> terrible storms etc etc. All we got up here in Liverpool was a rather 
> unremarkable dull damp day.

Yep, pretty much anywhere "north of watford" just has a slightly
windy & wet Friday night/Saturday morning. Looking at the medias
interpretation of the forecasts and warnings one would have expected
the whole country to have been affected but "Britain braces..." is
"better" headline than SW England braces..."

-- 
Cheers
Dave.

>According to the BBC website, Britain was supposed to brace itself for
terrible storms with heavy rain yesterday, and we should move all our
valuables upstairs in case of floods and not go out on the roads unless we
absolutely had to, etc, etc.

>It turned out that what they meant was *the south of England* would have
terrible storms etc etc. All we got up here in Liverpool was a rather
unremarkable dull damp day.

Lovely day here, after all the dramatic warnings. I went out picking
strawberries (seriously!)

Bill

In message , Bill 
 writes
>>According to the BBC website, Britain was supposed to brace itself for
>terrible storms with heavy rain yesterday, and we should move all our
>valuables upstairs in case of floods and not go out on the roads unless we
>absolutely had to, etc, etc.
>
>>It turned out that what they meant was *the south of England* would have
>terrible storms etc etc. All we got up here in Liverpool was a rather
>unremarkable dull damp day.
>
>Lovely day here, after all the dramatic warnings. I went out picking
>strawberries (seriously!)

I've been working in Wells today.   It was truly *glorious*, especially 
at about 8.30am with golden sunshine.

Nice view of the Mendip Forest mast on the way in, too (first way of 
getting back on topic).

After tour was interviews for local radio (second way of getting back on 
topic). Not heard of BCFM before but one of their staff "doorstepped" me 
and my group at the end of a walking tour (in a very pleasant way, I 
might add.)


-- 
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Birmingham, UK

Registered Blue Badge Tourist Guide for London and the Heart of England
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Now blogging in "The World According to Ian Jelf" at
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