For whom it may interest, Moel-y-Parc's BBC2 analogue signal closed down 
mid-programme at 00:29 on 28th October (with not a caption in sight during the 
final 12+ hours of the transmission).

The new 20kw digital signal then came on-air within 20 minutes.
This signal is now the strongest receiveable DTT mux on our Manchester 
apartment block's communal aerial system, even though reception of M-y-P 
analogue from the same aerial system is virtually non-existant and riddled 
with CCI. Rescanning any Freeview box will now give the welsh versions of the 
BBC channels as default, with NorthWest ones dumped in the 800s.
I've had similar reports from a friend living 10miles south of here with an 
ordinary rooftop aerial.

Given how robust this signal is proving to be, I think DTT will soon cast off 
its current reputation for being prone to freezing and picture break up after 
DSO completes, even though the picture quality itself will remain sh*te, and 
the boxes will still be riddled with software bugs.

"jamie powell"  wrote in message news:hcav7h$krj$1@aioe.org...
> For whom it may interest, Moel-y-Parc's BBC2 analogue signal closed down mid-programme at 00:29 on 28th October (with not a 
> caption in sight during the final 12+ hours of the transmission).
>
> The new 20kw digital signal then came on-air within 20 minutes.
> This signal is now the strongest receiveable DTT mux on our Manchester apartment block's communal aerial system, even though 
> reception of M-y-P analogue from the same aerial system is virtually non-existant and riddled with CCI. Rescanning any Freeview 
> box will now give the welsh versions of the BBC channels as default, with NorthWest ones dumped in the 800s.
> I've had similar reports from a friend living 10miles south of here with an ordinary rooftop aerial.
>
> Given how robust this signal is proving to be, I think DTT will soon cast off its current reputation for being prone to freezing 
> and picture break up after DSO completes, even though the picture quality itself will remain sh*te, and the boxes will still be 
> riddled with software bugs.

And to my mind, of the 5 terrestrial analogue signals, it is the closure of
BBC2 that is most poignant.

In times gone by the BBC would have marked the occasion in some way.

For the record, at my location in Prestwich, the ch 45 MUX shows as
medium strength, but no services can be decoded.
it must be said that my distribution system is a mess at the moment.


-- 
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

Graham. wrote:

> And to my mind, of the 5 terrestrial analogue signals, it is the closure of
> BBC2 that is most poignant.
> 
> In times gone by the BBC would have marked the occasion in some way.

Oh, I'm sure they will, but only when it's Crystal Palace's turn !


-- 
Mark
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"Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
news:7kuflqF3bohgoU1@mid.individual.net...
> Graham. wrote:
>
>> And to my mind, of the 5 terrestrial analogue signals, it is the closure of
>> BBC2 that is most poignant.
>>
>> In times gone by the BBC would have marked the occasion in some way.
>
> Oh, I'm sure they will, but only when it's Crystal Palace's turn !

On a completely unrelated note, I found out today that I can receive 
near-perfect analogue from Emley Moor (except ITV, which seems weaker), by 
placing my aerial on a specific area of the kitchen worktop.
This means I can "enjoy" such "highlights" as the closure of ITV/C4/C5 
teletext in mid-December. yay...

"Graham."  wrote in message 
news:hcd18l$ra3$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> For the record, at my location in Prestwich, the ch 45 MUX shows as
> medium strength, but no services can be decoded.
> it must be said that my distribution system is a mess at the moment.

The one I worked on today was, too (belonging to friends of my grandparents).
Their aerial points at Winter Hill, goes down to the Sky+ box in the louge, 
into a 4-output booster in the loft, then to 4 other rooms. (They just wanted 
the booster replacing with a TV-link one, which I did.)
There was a row of trees which had grown up in front of the aerial, in a 
neighbour's garden. Analogue reception on the main TV was therefore slightly 
snowy, and freeview was borderline.
Analogue on 2 of the 4 'remote' TVs was dire - strong pre-echo, and on ITV the 
picture kept loosing sync, accompanied with a loud buzzing noise and faces 
going 'orange'.
The house is an L-shape, and the 2 affected sets had old coax running along an 
outside wall which faced the exact direction of Winter Hill, and without any 
trees infront of it, so one can assume that this run of coax was collecting a 
greater amount of signal than the aerial/distribution system was actually 
providing (except on ITV, where the two levels were about the same, hence the 
picture madness).
Oddly enough, C5 was totally unaffected, and reception appeared to be coming 
only from the aerial.

I thought the new booster might have helped, but it didn't. Sky+ distribution 
and the TV-link return-paths are working fine though, which is all they 
wanted.

: "jamie powell"  wrote in message 
news:hcav7h$krj$1@aioe.org...
: > For whom it may interest, Moel-y-Parc's BBC2 analogue signal 
closed down mid-programme at 00:29 on 28th October (with not a
: > caption in sight during the final 12+ hours of the 
transmission).

Is there meant to be, I thought that local press and leaflet 
advertising was used to advise of the closure and once BBC2 
analogue closed the caption appeared - hence the need to close 
BBC2 earlier?

In article <hcd18l$ra3$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
	Graham. wrote:

> For the record, at my location in Prestwich, the ch 45 MUX shows as
> medium strength, but no services can be decoded.
> it must be said that my distribution system is a mess at the moment.

I didn't get a signal lock a few miles east of you, with the portable
aerial last night.

-- 
Paul Martin

"Jerry" <mapson.scarts@btinternet.com.INVALID> wrote in message 
news:hcer16$nm$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>: "jamie powell"  wrote in message
> news:hcav7h$krj$1@aioe.org...
> : > For whom it may interest, Moel-y-Parc's BBC2 analogue signal
> closed down mid-programme at 00:29 on 28th October (with not a
> : > caption in sight during the final 12+ hours of the
> transmission).
>
> Is there meant to be,

One would expect so, having read DigitalUK's publications on the matter.


> I thought that local press and leaflet
> advertising was used to advise of the closure and once BBC2
> analogue closed the caption appeared - hence the need to close
> BBC2 earlier?

Glad you're still playing the village idiot.

In article <hcf5f8$kho$1@aioe.org>,
	jamie powell wrote:

> "Jerry" <mapson.scarts@btinternet.com.INVALID> wrote in message 
> news:hcer16$nm$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>: "jamie powell"  wrote in message
>> news:hcav7h$krj$1@aioe.org...
>> : > For whom it may interest, Moel-y-Parc's BBC2 analogue signal
>> closed down mid-programme at 00:29 on 28th October (with not a
>> : > caption in sight during the final 12+ hours of the
>> transmission).
>>
>> Is there meant to be,

> One would expect so, having read DigitalUK's publications on the matter.

Oddly, the "one month out" Installer Newsletters publication for Winter
Hill hasn't appeared at:

http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/transmitternetwork/tools__and__resources/almanac

(There's a 3-month-out one, but not the promised one month one.)

And there's been nothing at all from them for Moel-y-Parc.

-- 
Paul Martin