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date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:29:36 +0100,    group: uk.tech.broadcast        back       
BBC Points West   
Hi:

This morning around 0600 for about 45 minutes, Points West was in chaos.
First there was the usual lack of a feed from Bristol, so the London
default came on. This happens several times a month (is it that the
presenter is late or other more tech reasons?).

But then something I've never seen before: the "Press i" thing was
boggled. I tried to see the weather by inputting "4027" and got the
response "Number unknown" or some such. Then I noticed that the index
list (News, Weather, Sport, etc) had letters instead of numbers beside
each one. The Weather link was given as "e/HPG".

Not having a remote with letters, I couldn't try it out! Would it have
worked? And what was going on anyway?

Hugh

-- 

Hugh Newbury (more like "Frustrated of Dorset")

Running Linux Suse 10.1 in deepest Dorset
date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:29:36 +0100   author:   Hugh Newbury

Re: BBC Points West   
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:29:36 +0100, Hugh Newbury 
wrote:

> This morning around 0600 for about 45 minutes, Points West was in chaos.

That's a bit over the top seeing as we only generate about 3 minutes of
local output between those times. You are misleading your audience.
Perhaps you ought to do the 'safeguarding trust' course that we've all
had to do.

> First there was the usual lack of a feed from Bristol, so the London
> default came on.

Usual? When did it last happen?

> This happens several times a month

Really? I challenge you to name (at least some of) the exact dates and times,
rather than making vague generalisations.
I have online recordings of all our transmitted output for the last 20 months.
That shows no missed bulletins at 06:25 for April apart from today.

> (is it that the presenter is late or other more tech reasons?).

This morning's missed transmission was a production/operational error
apparently.

> But then something I've never seen before: the "Press i" thing was
> boggled. I tried to see the weather by inputting "4027" and got the
> response "Number unknown" or some such. Then I noticed that the index
> list (News, Weather, Sport, etc) had letters instead of numbers beside
> each one. The Weather link was given as "e/HPG".

Nothing to do with us, or at least anything we have any control over.
Sounds like data corruption somewhere.
date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:25:49 GMT   author:   Paul Ratcliffe 78

Re: BBC Points West   
Paul Ratcliffe wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:29:36 +0100, Hugh Newbury
>  wrote:
> 
>> This morning around 0600 for about 45 minutes, Points West was in
>> chaos. 
> 
> That's a bit over the top seeing as we only generate about 3 minutes
> of 
> local output between those times. You are misleading your audience.
> Perhaps you ought to do the 'safeguarding trust' course that we've all
> had to do.
> 
>> First there was the usual lack of a feed from Bristol, so the London
>> default came on.
> 
> Usual? When did it last happen?
> 
>> This happens several times a month
> 
> Really? I challenge you to name (at least some of) the exact dates
> and times, rather than making vague generalisations.
> I have online recordings of all our transmitted output for the last
> 20 months. That shows no missed bulletins at 06:25 for April apart
> from today. 
> 
>> (is it that the presenter is late or other more tech reasons?).
> 
> This morning's missed transmission was a production/operational error
> apparently.
> 
>> But then something I've never seen before: the "Press i" thing was
>> boggled. I tried to see the weather by inputting "4027" and got the
>> response "Number unknown" or some such. Then I noticed that the index
>> list (News, Weather, Sport, etc) had letters instead of numbers
>> beside each one. The Weather link was given as "e/HPG".
> 
> Nothing to do with us, or at least anything we have any control over.
> Sounds like data corruption somewhere.
>

I still say that it all went to pot after Jeremy Carrad left.
date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:51:50 +0100   author:   Ivan ivan'H'

Re: BBC Points West   
Ivan wrote:
> I still say that it all went to pot after Jeremy Carrad left.

Ah happy daze  :-)
-- 
aa
date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:02:00 +0100   author:   aa

Re: BBC Points West   
aa wrote:
> Ivan wrote:
>> I still say that it all went to pot after Jeremy Carrad left.
>
> Ah happy daze  :-)
>

I did some work a couple of years ago at a neighbour of his bungalow down in 
Walton, apparently he's still alive and kicking, to be absolutely honest I 
thought he'd gone to tele heaven years ago.
date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:27:49 +0100   author:   Ivan ivan'H'

Re: BBC Points West   
Ivan wrote:
> aa wrote:
>> Ivan wrote:
>>> I still say that it all went to pot after Jeremy Carrad left.
>>
>> Ah happy daze  :-)
>>
> 
> I did some work a couple of years ago at a neighbour of his bungalow 
> down in Walton, apparently he's still alive and kicking, to be 
> absolutely honest I thought he'd gone to tele heaven years ago.

No room I expect, what with just about all of ITV's regional broadcasting up 
there now.

-- 
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.
date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:35:43 +0100   author:   Mark Carver lid

Re: BBC Points West   
Mark Carver wrote:
> Ivan wrote:
>> aa wrote:
>>> Ivan wrote:
>>>> I still say that it all went to pot after Jeremy Carrad left.
>>>
>>> Ah happy daze  :-)
>>>
>>
>> I did some work a couple of years ago at a neighbour of his bungalow
>> down in Walton, apparently he's still alive and kicking, to be
>> absolutely honest I thought he'd gone to tele heaven years ago.
>
>
> No room I expect, what with just about all of ITV's regional
> broadcasting up there now.
>

How far have the mighty fallen, from those heady days of 'A licence to print 
money'.
date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:53:33 +0100   author:   Ivan ivan'H'

Re: BBC Points West   
On 29 Apr, 22:25, Paul Ratcliffe <ab...@orac12.clara34.co56.uk78>
wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:29:36 +0100, Hugh Newbury 
> wrote:
>
> > This morning around 0600 for about 45 minutes, Points West was in chaos.
>
> That's a bit over the top seeing as we only generate about 3 minutes of
> local output between those times. You are misleading your audience.
> Perhaps you ought to do the 'safeguarding trust' course that we've all
> had to do.
>
> > First there was the usual lack of a feed from Bristol, so the London
> > default came on.
>
> Usual? When did it last happen?
>
> > This happens several times a month
>
> Really? I challenge you to name (at least some of) the exact dates and times,
> rather than making vague generalisations.
> I have online recordings of all our transmitted output for the last 20 months.
> That shows no missed bulletins at 06:25 for April apart from today.
>
> > (is it that the presenter is late or other more tech reasons?).
>
> This morning's missed transmission was a production/operational error
> apparently.
>
> > But then something I've never seen before: the "Press i" thing was
> > boggled. I tried to see the weather by inputting "4027" and got the
> > response "Number unknown" or some such. Then I noticed that the index
> > list (News, Weather, Sport, etc) had letters instead of numbers beside
> > each one. The Weather link was given as "e/HPG".
>
> Nothing to do with us, or at least anything we have any control over.
> Sounds like data corruption somewhere.

Interesting to note that "Hugh Newbury" has not responded to your
answer (and question)!!
date: Tue, 6 May 2008 02:18:06 -0700 (PDT)   author:   NeilH

Re: BBC Points West   
In article 
, 
NeilH  writes
>On 29 Apr, 22:25, Paul Ratcliffe <ab...@orac12.clara34.co56.uk78>
>wrote:
>> On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:29:36 +0100, Hugh Newbury 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > This morning around 0600 for about 45 minutes, Points West was in chaos.
>>
>> That's a bit over the top seeing as we only generate about 3 minutes of
>> local output between those times. You are misleading your audience.
>> Perhaps you ought to do the 'safeguarding trust' course that we've all
>> had to do.
>>
>> > First there was the usual lack of a feed from Bristol, so the London
>> > default came on.
>>
>> Usual? When did it last happen?
>>
>> > This happens several times a month
>>
>> Really? I challenge you to name (at least some of) the exact dates and times,
>> rather than making vague generalisations.
>> I have online recordings of all our transmitted output for the last 
>>20 months.
>> That shows no missed bulletins at 06:25 for April apart from today.
>>
>> > (is it that the presenter is late or other more tech reasons?).
>>
>> This morning's missed transmission was a production/operational error
>> apparently.
>>
>> > But then something I've never seen before: the "Press i" thing was
>> > boggled. I tried to see the weather by inputting "4027" and got the
>> > response "Number unknown" or some such. Then I noticed that the index
>> > list (News, Weather, Sport, etc) had letters instead of numbers beside
>> > each one. The Weather link was given as "e/HPG".
>>
>> Nothing to do with us, or at least anything we have any control over.
>> Sounds like data corruption somewhere.
>
>Interesting to note that "Hugh Newbury" has not responded to your
>answer (and question)!!

I think "Frustrated of Dorset" was the clue.

Mendip TX is but folklore down there, blue mythical hills 'n'all.

Regards,

Simonm.

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date: Tue, 06 May 2008 10:05:03 GMT   author:   SpamTrapSeeSig

Re: BBC Points West   
Hi, Simonm:

SpamTrapSeeSig wrote:

> 
> I think "Frustrated of Dorset" was the clue.
> 
> Mendip TX is but folklore down there, blue mythical hills 'n'all.

Got it in one! I live in a tiny village in WDorset, where every
conceivable variety of signal is used by the residents, depending on
which part of the village they live in. Here on West Hill, we have
people still on analogue terrestrial. I'm on digital terrestrial from,
as you say, Mendip. Others get their signal from (?) Plymouth. On East
Hill, on the other hand, where they get a good view of the sky to the
south, they rely on Freesat (or whatever it is) because they can't get a
terrestrial signal of any kind. Yet others have Sky.

There are lots of advantages to living in the sticks, but there are a
few downsides too: little or no public transport, few shops/POs, etc.
Thank goodness for the internet.

Hugh

-- 

Hugh Newbury

Running Linux Suse 10.1 in deepest Dorset
date: Wed, 07 May 2008 08:20:54 +0100   author:   Hugh Newbury

Re: BBC Points West   
In article , Hugh Newbury
 scribeth thus
>Hi, Simonm:
>
>SpamTrapSeeSig wrote:
>
>> 
>> I think "Frustrated of Dorset" was the clue.
>> 
>> Mendip TX is but folklore down there, blue mythical hills 'n'all.
>
>Got it in one! I live in a tiny village in WDorset, where every
>conceivable variety of signal is used by the residents, depending on
>which part of the village they live in. Here on West Hill, we have
>people still on analogue terrestrial. I'm on digital terrestrial from,
>as you say, Mendip. Others get their signal from (?) Plymouth. On East
>Hill, on the other hand, where they get a good view of the sky to the
>south, they rely on Freesat (or whatever it is) because they can't get a
>terrestrial signal of any kind. Yet others have Sky.
>
>There are lots of advantages to living in the sticks, but there are a
>few downsides too: little or no public transport, few shops/POs, etc.
>Thank goodness for the internet.

When your exchange isn't too far away;!...

And the daily rise in petrol prices;(..
>
>Hugh
>

-- 
Tony Sayer
date: Wed, 7 May 2008 09:17:27 +0100   author:   tony sayer

Re: BBC Points West   
"Hugh Newbury"  wrote in message 
news:68d3ilF2shp0rU1@mid.individual.net...
> Hi, Simonm:
>
> SpamTrapSeeSig wrote:
>
>>
>> I think "Frustrated of Dorset" was the clue.
>>
>> Mendip TX is but folklore down there, blue mythical hills 'n'all.
>
> Got it in one! I live in a tiny village in WDorset, where every
> conceivable variety of signal is used by the residents, depending on
> which part of the village they live in. Here on West Hill, we have
> people still on analogue terrestrial. I'm on digital terrestrial from,
> as you say, Mendip. Others get their signal from (?) Plymouth. On East
> Hill, on the other hand, where they get a good view of the sky to the
> south, they rely on Freesat (or whatever it is) because they can't get a
> terrestrial signal of any kind. Yet others have Sky.
>
> There are lots of advantages to living in the sticks, but there are a
> few downsides too: little or no public transport, few shops/POs, etc.
> Thank goodness for the internet.
>
> Hugh

I live in a very small village in east Worcestershire where 5 different 
transmitters are used depending which side of the hill you live on.
I love the rural lifestyle although Tony is right, fuel prices are an issue 
and we are very lucky to have a good quality run to the exchange about 5 
miles away. We bunch up our trips to town rather than dashing in for every 
last item and we rely heavily on internet purchasing.
date: Wed, 7 May 2008 21:31:07 +0100   author:   Doctor D

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