Hello,

I wish to improve FM reception through my stereo in the front room by 
plugging it into my loft-mounted antenna.

There is already a TV coaxial type connection that comes from the 
antenna to behind the TV. I have seen the faceplates with connections 
for TV and FM radio signals, is it just a case of fitting one of these 
faceplates in place of the current one or is there more to it than that?

Any FAQ sites might be helpful.
-- 
Regards
Jon

In article , Jon
 scribeth thus
>Hello,
>
>I wish to improve FM reception through my stereo in the front room by 
>plugging it into my loft-mounted antenna.
>
>There is already a TV coaxial type connection that comes from the 
>antenna to behind the TV. I have seen the faceplates with connections 
>for TV and FM radio signals, is it just a case of fitting one of these 
>faceplates in place of the current one or is there more to it than that?
>
>Any FAQ sites might be helpful.


Obtain an FM aerial cpc.co.uk is a good choice of supplier.

Obtain also a VHF/UHF diplexer this "adds" the two TV and FM signals
together.

Obtain the faceplate that has TV and FM..

Locate the FM transmitter serving your area.

Aim the FM aerial towards that ..

connect the downlead that carries the TV signal and add in the feed from
the FM aerial.

and 

Enjoy the fab sound of FM and be glad you haven't got the inferior DAB
quality;!...
-- 
Tony Sayer

tony sayer wrote:

> Enjoy the fab sound of FM.

Apart from possibly Radio 3, I'm unable to name a single UK FM station I've 
heard recently that still has a 'fab sound' ?

-- 
Mark
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On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 18:29:19 +0000, Mark Carver
<mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>Apart from possibly Radio 3, I'm unable to name a single UK FM station I've 
>heard recently that still has a 'fab sound' ?

...and that's compressed during 'traffic' hours.

-- 
Alan White
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In article , tony@bancom.co.uk says...
> In article , Jon
>  scribeth thus
> >Hello,
> >
> >I wish to improve FM reception through my stereo in the front room by 
> >plugging it into my loft-mounted antenna.
> >
> >There is already a TV coaxial type connection that comes from the 
> >antenna to behind the TV. I have seen the faceplates with connections 
> >for TV and FM radio signals, is it just a case of fitting one of these 
> >faceplates in place of the current one or is there more to it than that?
> >
> >Any FAQ sites might be helpful.
> 
> 
> Obtain an FM aerial cpc.co.uk is a good choice of supplier.
> 
> Obtain also a VHF/UHF diplexer this "adds" the two TV and FM signals
> together.
> 
> Obtain the faceplate that has TV and FM..
> 
> Locate the FM transmitter serving your area.
> 
> Aim the FM aerial towards that ..
> 
> connect the downlead that carries the TV signal and add in the feed from
> the FM aerial.

Presumably then the dual-function faceplate demuxes the combined FM/TV 
signals into separate TV and FM signals then?

Thanks for the info.
-- 
Regards
Jon

In article , tony@bancom.co.uk says...
> Enjoy the fab sound of FM and be glad you haven't got the inferior DAB
> quality;!...

Lol, that's the plan!

I looked on cpc.co.uk but did not find the correct bits.

Had a look on maplin.co.uk and have got the following together:

FM1 Radio Aerial Kit - XP09K
Diplexer - FE27E
Coax plug - FD85G
Twin outlet faceplate - QX92A

Would these parts be sufficient (ignoring the short flylead from 
faceplate to stereo equipment and any mounting that becomes necessary)?

Thanks
-- 
Regards
Jon

In article ,
   Jon  wrote:
 > the FM aerial.

> Presumably then the dual-function faceplate demuxes the combined FM/TV 
> signals into separate TV and FM signals then?

it's simply a frequency sensitive device.  It has no idea what type of
signals are being carried.

-- 
From KT24 - in "Leafy Surrey"

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11

In article , Jon 
 writes
>In article , tony@bancom.co.uk says...
>> Enjoy the fab sound of FM and be glad you haven't got the inferior DAB
>> quality;!...
>
>Lol, that's the plan!
>
>I looked on cpc.co.uk but did not find the correct bits.
>
>Had a look on maplin.co.uk and have got the following together:
>
>FM1 Radio Aerial Kit - XP09K
>Diplexer - FE27E
>Coax plug - FD85G
>Twin outlet faceplate - QX92A
>
>Would these parts be sufficient (ignoring the short flylead from
>faceplate to stereo equipment and any mounting that becomes necessary)?

Substitute YN54J for the faceplate (it has a splitter on the back & you 
need to do it at both ends, otherwise TV and Radio may load each other).

When using just the TV, you might need a 75 Ohm termination (dummy plug 
with 75 Ohm resistor soldered into it) in the unused socket to stop 
reflections, but you probably don't - try it with only the TV plugged in 
& see if the picture looks good enough for you.

Regards,

Simonm.

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In article ,
   Jon  wrote:
> In article , tony@bancom.co.uk says...
> > Enjoy the fab sound of FM and be glad you haven't got the inferior DAB
> > quality;!...

> Lol, that's the plan!

> I looked on cpc.co.uk but did not find the correct bits.

How about:
AP00070 FM aerial
AP00385 combiner splitter
AP00013 TV/FM Coaxial outlet plate
APCOAX2 Co-axial plug   

> Had a look on maplin.co.uk and have got the following together:

> FM1 Radio Aerial Kit - XP09K
> Diplexer - FE27E
> Coax plug - FD85G
> Twin outlet faceplate - QX92A

> Would these parts be sufficient (ignoring the short flylead from 
> faceplate to stereo equipment and any mounting that becomes necessary)?

Unless you have an overwhelming need to pick up FM radio signals from all
directions, a directional aerial is a far better choice.

-- 
From KT24 - in "Leafy Surrey"

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11

In article , Jon
 scribeth thus
>In article , tony@bancom.co.uk says...
>> In article , Jon
>>  scribeth thus
>> >Hello,
>> >
>> >I wish to improve FM reception through my stereo in the front room by 
>> >plugging it into my loft-mounted antenna.
>> >
>> >There is already a TV coaxial type connection that comes from the 
>> >antenna to behind the TV. I have seen the faceplates with connections 
>> >for TV and FM radio signals, is it just a case of fitting one of these 
>> >faceplates in place of the current one or is there more to it than that?
>> >
>> >Any FAQ sites might be helpful.
>> 
>> 
>> Obtain an FM aerial cpc.co.uk is a good choice of supplier.
>> 
>> Obtain also a VHF/UHF diplexer this "adds" the two TV and FM signals
>> together.
>> 
>> Obtain the faceplate that has TV and FM..
>> 
>> Locate the FM transmitter serving your area.
>> 
>> Aim the FM aerial towards that ..
>> 
>> connect the downlead that carries the TV signal and add in the feed from
>> the FM aerial.
>
>Presumably then the dual-function faceplate demuxes the combined FM/TV 
>signals into separate TV and FM signals then?
>
>Thanks for the info.


Yes the bit at the top.. puts them together, the bit at the bottom
separates them. 

You could use a separate aerial lead (co-ax) but that might be a problem
getting it down the cavity...

and Mark & co what's wrong with Radio 4 then?..
-- 
Tony Sayer

In article , Jon
 scribeth thus
>In article , tony@bancom.co.uk says...
>> Enjoy the fab sound of FM and be glad you haven't got the inferior DAB
>> quality;!...
>
>Lol, that's the plan!
>
>I looked on cpc.co.uk but did not find the correct bits.
>
>Had a look on maplin.co.uk and have got the following together:
>
>FM1 Radio Aerial Kit - XP09K

Wouldn't give it house room!..

>Diplexer - FE27E
>Coax plug - FD85G
>Twin outlet faceplate - QX92A
>
>Would these parts be sufficient (ignoring the short flylead from 
>faceplate to stereo equipment and any mounting that becomes necessary)?
>
>Thanks

Http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/search/browse.jsp?N=411+1000645+500001

AP00070

I'd go for something off that page. The 3 element Triax is very good for
the money the other stuff is there to and in general their better value
than Maplin...
-- 
Tony Sayer

charles wrote:

> 
> Unless you have an overwhelming need to pick up FM radio signals from all
> directions, a directional aerial is a far better choice.

What do you want to receive Jon, and where do you live ?



-- 
Mark
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tony sayer wrote:

> and Mark & co what's wrong with Radio 4 then?..

Often pushed so hard you can hear distortion. Notably continuity and news.

-- 
Mark
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In article , Mark Carver
<mark.carver@invalid.invalid> scribeth thus
>tony sayer wrote:
>
>> and Mark & co what's wrong with Radio 4 then?..
>
>Often pushed so hard you can hear distortion. Notably continuity and news.
>

Well its not like that all the time..
-- 
Tony Sayer

Mark Carver wrote:
> tony sayer wrote:
> 
>> and Mark & co what's wrong with Radio 4 then?..
> 
> Often pushed so hard you can hear distortion. Notably continuity and news.

Both of which are announcer-operated.

The level jumps between the news announcer and clips in the short hourly 
news updates are sometimes quite shocking, as can be the difference in 
loudness between the continuity annoucer and the surrounding programmes.

"charles"  wrote in message 
news:4f6f19485bcharles@charleshope.demon.co.uk...
> In article ,
>   Jon  wrote:
>> In article , tony@bancom.co.uk says...
> Unless you have an overwhelming need to pick up FM radio signals from all
> directions, a directional aerial is a far better choice.

That could be a counsel of perfection with a loft aerial. Apart from the 
fact that there probably wouldn't be room to mount a yagi correctly, the 
directional characteristics are likely to be nullified to the point of 
uselessness by the surrounding wires and masonry. Unless there were very 
special requirements I'd always go for a vertical dipole at the highest 
point in the loft.

Bill

"Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
news:61952hF1uhvb0U1@mid.individual.net...
> What do you want to receive Jon, and where do you live ?

When I was a kid helping my dad install aerials for VHF TV dad had a little 
joke. If we installed in a known difficult reception area he used to pause, 
coax plug in hand, and as he was about to insert the said plug into the back 
of the telly he would give the assembled customers a very serious look and 
intone sonorously, "For what we are about to receive let the Lord make us 
truly thankful."

Bill

tony sayer wrote:
> In article , Mark Carver
> <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> scribeth thus
>> tony sayer wrote:
>>
>>> and Mark & co what's wrong with Radio 4 then?..
>> Often pushed so hard you can hear distortion. Notably continuity and news.
>>
> 
> Well its not like that all the time..

No, but it shouldn't be like that *any* of the time. BBC R3 and 4 are 
certainly the least worst though.

-- 
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.

In article , 
mark.carver@invalid.invalid says...
> charles wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Unless you have an overwhelming need to pick up FM radio signals from all
> > directions, a directional aerial is a far better choice.
> 
> What do you want to receive Jon, and where do you live ?

BBC Radio 1 and BBC Radio Norfolk occasionally, and I live just north of 
Norwich, in NR8.

The antenna I picked is directional if mounted horizontally. Should I be 
thinking about a yagi type?
-- 
Regards
Jon

In article , no-
one@nospam.demon.co.uk says...
> Substitute YN54J for the faceplate (it has a splitter on the back & you 
> need to do it at both ends, otherwise TV and Radio may load each other).

Good call, thanks.

> When using just the TV, you might need a 75 Ohm termination (dummy plug 
> with 75 Ohm resistor soldered into it) in the unused socket to stop 
> reflections, but you probably don't - try it with only the TV plugged in 
> & see if the picture looks good enough for you.

Very rarely use the TV connection as we have sky+, but thansk for the 
tip.
-- 
Regards
Jon

In article , tony@bancom.co.uk says...
> In article , Jon
>  scribeth thus
> >In article , tony@bancom.co.uk says...
> >> Enjoy the fab sound of FM and be glad you haven't got the inferior DAB
> >> quality;!...
> >
> >Lol, that's the plan!
> >
> >I looked on cpc.co.uk but did not find the correct bits.
> >
> >Had a look on maplin.co.uk and have got the following together:
> >
> >FM1 Radio Aerial Kit - XP09K
> 
> Wouldn't give it house room!..
> 
> >Diplexer - FE27E
> >Coax plug - FD85G
> >Twin outlet faceplate - QX92A
> >
> >Would these parts be sufficient (ignoring the short flylead from 
> >faceplate to stereo equipment and any mounting that becomes necessary)?
> >
> >Thanks
> 
> Http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/search/browse.jsp?N=411+1000645+500001
> 
> AP00070
> 
> I'd go for something off that page. The 3 element Triax is very good for
> the money the other stuff is there to and in general their better value
> than Maplin...

Thanks, will take another look.
-- 
Regards
Jon

On Feb 11, 7:33 am, Jon  wrote:
> In article ,
> mark.car...@invalid.invalid says...

> > What do you want to receive Jon, and where do you live ?
>
> BBC Radio 1 and BBC Radio Norfolk occasionally, and I live just north of
> Norwich, in NR8.
>
> The antenna I picked is directional if mounted horizontally. Should I be
> thinking about a yagi type?

Radio 1 and BBC Norfolk come from different directions. R1 from
Tacolneston (same mast as your TV signals) BBC Norfolk from Stoke Holy
Cross, (SE of Norwich, just beyond the A47 by pass). Both signals
should be nice and healthy at your location.

I'd use that aerial in a vertical position, as high up in your loft as
possible.

In article , Mark Carver
<mark.carver@invalid.invalid> scribeth thus
>tony sayer wrote:
>> In article , Mark Carver
>> <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> scribeth thus
>>> tony sayer wrote:
>>>
>>>> and Mark & co what's wrong with Radio 4 then?..
>>> Often pushed so hard you can hear distortion. Notably continuity and news.
>>>
>> 
>> Well its not like that all the time..
>
>No, but it shouldn't be like that *any* of the time. BBC R3 and 4 are 
>certainly the least worst though.
>

Agreed on that. They do seem to be letting standards slip sometimes not
that good for a national flagship service..

Oh!, what's that?, one of our navy's  ships isn't ready to go to sea as
its not been repaired properly ?..

Good job it didn't happen in Nelson's time else we'd be parleying
now;!... 
-- 
Tony Sayer

In article , Jon
 scribeth thus
>In article , 
>mark.carver@invalid.invalid says...
>> charles wrote:
>> 
>> > 
>> > Unless you have an overwhelming need to pick up FM radio signals from all
>> > directions, a directional aerial is a far better choice.
>> 
>> What do you want to receive Jon, and where do you live ?
>
>BBC Radio 1 and BBC Radio Norfolk occasionally, and I live just north of 
>Norwich, in NR8.
>
>The antenna I picked is directional if mounted horizontally. Should I be 
>thinking about a yagi type?

Yep a three element will do fine there, just aim it south south west
and it will catch all thats worth listening to in your area...
-- 
Tony Sayer

In article , Bill Wright
 scribeth thus
>
>"charles"  wrote in message 
>news:4f6f19485bcharles@charleshope.demon.co.uk...
>> In article ,
>>   Jon  wrote:
>>> In article , tony@bancom.co.uk says...
>> Unless you have an overwhelming need to pick up FM radio signals from all
>> directions, a directional aerial is a far better choice.
>
>That could be a counsel of perfection with a loft aerial. Apart from the 
>fact that there probably wouldn't be room to mount a yagi correctly, the 
>directional characteristics are likely to be nullified to the point of 
>uselessness by the surrounding wires and masonry. Unless there were very 
>special requirements I'd always go for a vertical dipole at the highest 
>point in the loft.
>
>Bill 
>
>

A Horizontal mounted Yagi will go some way to discriminating agin all
the muck that comes across the North sea from those over powered froggie
TX'es in the warmer weather!...
-- 
Tony Sayer

On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 00:35:40 -0000, "Bill Wright"
 wrote:

>
>"Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message 
>news:61952hF1uhvb0U1@mid.individual.net...
>> What do you want to receive Jon, and where do you live ?
>
>When I was a kid helping my dad install aerials for VHF TV dad had a little 
>joke. If we installed in a known difficult reception area he used to pause, 
>coax plug in hand, and as he was about to insert the said plug into the back 
>of the telly he would give the assembled customers a very serious look and 
>intone sonorously, "For what we are about to receive let the Lord make us 
>truly thankful."
>

That's a bit long for a Yorkshireman - I thought "Gee Pa, ta" was the
succinct form of Grace.


-- 
AnthonyL