In article , Paul Martin
 scribeth thus
>In article ,
>       tony sayer wrote:
>> In article <1ic1fkm.fa2638igeyykN%Spambox@pembers.freeserve.co.uk.invali
>> d>, Alan Pemberton <Spambox@pembers.freeserve.co.uk.invalid> scribeth
>> thus
>>>Mark Carver  wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Feb 8, 1:34 pm, "davidrobin...@postmaster.co.uk"
>>>> 
>>>> > HD offers some hope in terms of technical quality.
>>>> 
>>>> Only faint hope. I watched last weekend's rugby in HD on the BBC D-Sat
>>>> channel. The picture was good, but still fell well short of what you'd
>>>> get from domestic HD disc formats.
>>>
>>>The SD pictures looked very soft and lifeless, in comparison with
>>>similar live down-conversions such as the Proms. I found the 14L12
>>>France 2 pictures on 5W looked much cleaner 
>
>> What box were you using the receive that Alan?..
>
>From the signal strength plots, you should be able to get that with a
>40cm dish and an FTA box anywhere south of Carlisle. (11.591GHz V
>20.0Mbaud FEC2/3)
>
>http://www.lyngsat-maps.com/maps/ab3_super.html
>
Yes I know that .. I was wondering about the receiver in use!..
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Tony Sayer