But only because OneWord's finally given up the struggle and closed
down... as has Core. Did anyone ever listen to either of those?

Still,we've got BFBS now. Radio Squaddy!

R

In article <87ed3f23-705b-4a66-ae5b-
3963f1af1e05@j78g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>, Rupert Goodwins wrote:
> But only because OneWord's finally given up the struggle and closed
> down... as has Core. Did anyone ever listen to either of those?

Perhaps there's a glimmer of hope that the broadcasters will think 
about this and realise what it means in terms of what the public 
*really* wants.

Rod.

In article , Roderick
Stewart  scribeth thus
>In article <87ed3f23-705b-4a66-ae5b-
>3963f1af1e05@j78g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>, Rupert Goodwins wrote:
>> But only because OneWord's finally given up the struggle and closed
>> down... as has Core. Did anyone ever listen to either of those?
>
>Perhaps there's a glimmer of hope that the broadcasters will think 
>about this and realise what it means in terms of what the public 
>*really* wants.
>
>Rod.
>

Which is what in Rods opinion and supported market research?....
-- 
Tony Sayer

In article , Tony sayer wrote:
> >> But only because OneWord's finally given up the struggle and closed
> >> down... as has Core. Did anyone ever listen to either of those?
> >
> >Perhaps there's a glimmer of hope that the broadcasters will think 
> >about this and realise what it means in terms of what the public 
> >*really* wants.
> >
> >Rod.
> >
> 
> Which is what in Rods opinion and supported market research?....

Which is that the public don't in fact want a "choice" of lots of 
obscure channels, as the broadcasters seem to think we do.

It's not just my opinion. Several of these new digital channels have 
closed through lack of support because an insufficient number of people 
have been listening to them. Meanwhile, the BBC Home Service and the 
Light programme (with name changes), have been going since the war. 
That's about half a century of "market research" by a pretty big market.

Rod.

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:02:30 -0000, Roderick Stewart
 wrote:

>In article , Tony sayer wrote:
>> >> But only because OneWord's finally given up the struggle and closed
>> >> down... as has Core. Did anyone ever listen to either of those?
>> >
>> >Perhaps there's a glimmer of hope that the broadcasters will think 
>> >about this and realise what it means in terms of what the public 
>> >*really* wants.
>> >
>> >Rod.
>> >
>> 
>> Which is what in Rods opinion and supported market research?....
>
>Which is that the public don't in fact want a "choice" of lots of 
>obscure channels, as the broadcasters seem to think we do.
>
>It's not just my opinion. Several of these new digital channels have 
>closed through lack of support because an insufficient number of people 
>have been listening to them. Meanwhile, the BBC Home Service and the 
>Light programme (with name changes), have been going since the war. 
>That's about half a century of "market research" by a pretty big market.
>
>Rod.

More stations isn't always more choice, when all the stations are
virtually the same.  We didn't need Core, that audience is already
catered for ad infinitum.

Marky P.

In article , Roderick
Stewart  scribeth thus
>In article , Tony sayer wrote:
>> >> But only because OneWord's finally given up the struggle and closed
>> >> down... as has Core. Did anyone ever listen to either of those?
>> >
>> >Perhaps there's a glimmer of hope that the broadcasters will think 
>> >about this and realise what it means in terms of what the public 
>> >*really* wants.
>> >
>> >Rod.
>> >
>> 
>> Which is what in Rods opinion and supported market research?....
>
>Which is that the public don't in fact want a "choice" of lots of 
>obscure channels, as the broadcasters seem to think we do.
>
>It's not just my opinion. Several of these new digital channels have 
>closed through lack of support because an insufficient number of people 
>have been listening to them. Meanwhile, the BBC Home Service and the 
>Light programme (with name changes), have been going since the war. 
>That's about half a century of "market research" by a pretty big market.
>
>Rod.
>


Perhaps the penetration of digital receivers isn't as yet all it might
be .. For instance theres hardly any new cars fitted with dab as
standard equipment!...

-- 
Tony Sayer

On Jan 14, 9:10 pm, tony sayer  wrote:
> In article , Roderick
> Stewart  scribeth thus
>
>
>
> >In article , Tony sayer wrote:
> >> >> But only because OneWord's finally given up the struggle and closed
> >> >> down... as has Core. Did anyone ever listen to either of those?
>
> >> >Perhaps there's a glimmer of hope that the broadcasters will think
> >> >about this and realise what it means in terms of what the public
> >> >*really* wants.
>
> >> >Rod.
>
> >> Which is what in Rods opinion and supported market research?....
>
> >Which is that the public don't in fact want a "choice" of lots of
> >obscure channels, as the broadcasters seem to think we do.
>
> >It's not just my opinion. Several of these new digital channels have
> >closed through lack of support because an insufficient number of people
> >have been listening to them. Meanwhile, the BBC Home Service and the
> >Light programme (with name changes), have been going since the war.
> >That's about half a century of "market research" by a pretty big market.
>
> >Rod.
>
> Perhaps the penetration of digital receivers isn't as yet all it might
> be .. For instance theres hardly any new cars fitted with dab as
> standard equipment!...
>
> --
> Tony Sayer

How much does it cost per annum to broadcast on a DAB multiplex? I
wonder if it would be possible to split a station into time blocks
that can be sold on - perhaps with an overall remit to keep things
themed and Ofcom happy. I like weird music, so listen a lot to WFMU
and Resonance 104.4, as well as bits of R3 and 6Music. There are maybe
ten other stations around the world that I know of which serve up my
kind of thing; if each was given an hour a day on a multiplex for
either some of their existing programming or (as I'd hope) something
designed to entice the curious rather than satisfy the converted, that
would be a terrific addition to diversity across the country.
Especially when you take a spin through DAB as it is at the moment,
through piles of identikit light rock/MOR/pop stations, and think how
much seriously good talent is going completely unrepresented.

How much revenue would it have to raise? If you look at whats going on
online these days, there are all sorts of commercial models that dont'
rely on pure advertising - and work - so there's room for some
innovative multiplatform ideas. Digital radio shouldn't be stuck in
the 70s in _any_ respect, certainly not in its business model.

Rupert

In article <ed59a3c5-e41b-444d-9add-07c9e70d67f9@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups
.com>, Rupert Goodwins  scribeth thus
>On Jan 14, 9:10 pm, tony sayer  wrote:
>> In article , Roderick
>> Stewart  scribeth thus
>>
>>
>>
>> >In article , Tony sayer wrote:
>> >> >> But only because OneWord's finally given up the struggle and closed
>> >> >> down... as has Core. Did anyone ever listen to either of those?
>>
>> >> >Perhaps there's a glimmer of hope that the broadcasters will think
>> >> >about this and realise what it means in terms of what the public
>> >> >*really* wants.
>>
>> >> >Rod.
>>
>> >> Which is what in Rods opinion and supported market research?....
>>
>> >Which is that the public don't in fact want a "choice" of lots of
>> >obscure channels, as the broadcasters seem to think we do.
>>
>> >It's not just my opinion. Several of these new digital channels have
>> >closed through lack of support because an insufficient number of people
>> >have been listening to them. Meanwhile, the BBC Home Service and the
>> >Light programme (with name changes), have been going since the war.
>> >That's about half a century of "market research" by a pretty big market.
>>
>> >Rod.
>>
>> Perhaps the penetration of digital receivers isn't as yet all it might
>> be .. For instance theres hardly any new cars fitted with dab as
>> standard equipment!...
>>
>> --
>> Tony Sayer
>
>How much does it cost per annum to broadcast on a DAB multiplex? I
>wonder if it would be possible to split a station into time blocks
>that can be sold on - perhaps with an overall remit to keep things
>themed and Ofcom happy. I like weird music, so listen a lot to WFMU
>and Resonance 104.4, as well as bits of R3 and 6Music. There are maybe
>ten other stations around the world that I know of which serve up my
>kind of thing; if each was given an hour a day on a multiplex for
>either some of their existing programming or (as I'd hope) something
>designed to entice the curious rather than satisfy the converted, that
>would be a terrific addition to diversity across the country.
>Especially when you take a spin through DAB as it is at the moment,
>through piles of identikit light rock/MOR/pop stations, and think how
>much seriously good talent is going completely unrepresented.
>
>How much revenue would it have to raise? If you look at whats going on
>online these days, there are all sorts of commercial models that dont'
>rely on pure advertising - and work - so there's room for some
>innovative multiplatform ideas. Digital radio shouldn't be stuck in
>the 70s in _any_ respect, certainly not in its business model.
>
>Rupert


Dunno of the top of me head from around £40 to 50 K for a local MUX so a
few million for a national one. And most cars can't receive the
transmissions and thats he reason Digital 1's finding it hard going. 

The motah is the one area that radio still reaches and TV just isn't a
problem!. And despite what people may think the mobile wi-fi Internet is
sometime off if ever the business case for that stacks up..

Like the idea tho :)

Sorry but I don't see it working:( 

Around these parts 209radio does something very similar .,. a collection
of all manner of other stations:) 
-- 
Tony Sayer

In article ,
	Rupert Goodwins wrote:
> But only because OneWord's finally given up the struggle and closed
> down... as has Core. Did anyone ever listen to either of those?

I've had the birdsong on. There's a curious twist to the current
version. About a minute or so before the track fades and repeats,
there's a little burst of acoustic guitar, then a clarinet playing what
sounds very much like the Classic FM theme.

-- 
Paul Martin

"Rupert Goodwins"  wrote in message 
news:ed59a3c5-e41b-444d-9add-07c9e70d67f9@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 14, 9:10 pm, tony sayer  wrote:
>> In article , Roderick
>> Stewart  scribeth thus
>>
>>
>>
>> >In article , Tony sayer wrote:
>> >> >> But only because OneWord's finally given up the struggle and closed
>> >> >> down... as has Core. Did anyone ever listen to either of those?
>>
>> >> >Perhaps there's a glimmer of hope that the broadcasters will think
>> >> >about this and realise what it means in terms of what the public
>> >> >*really* wants.
>>
>> >> >Rod.
>>
>> >> Which is what in Rods opinion and supported market research?....
>>
>> >Which is that the public don't in fact want a "choice" of lots of
>> >obscure channels, as the broadcasters seem to think we do.
>>
>> >It's not just my opinion. Several of these new digital channels have
>> >closed through lack of support because an insufficient number of people
>> >have been listening to them. Meanwhile, the BBC Home Service and the
>> >Light programme (with name changes), have been going since the war.
>> >That's about half a century of "market research" by a pretty big market.
>>
>> >Rod.
>>
>> Perhaps the penetration of digital receivers isn't as yet all it might
>> be .. For instance theres hardly any new cars fitted with dab as
>> standard equipment!...
>>
>> --
>> Tony Sayer
>
> How much does it cost per annum to broadcast on a DAB multiplex? I
> wonder if it would be possible to split a station into time blocks
> that can be sold on - perhaps with an overall remit to keep things
> themed and Ofcom happy. I like weird music, so listen a lot to WFMU
> and Resonance 104.4, as well as bits of R3 and 6Music. There are maybe
> ten other stations around the world that I know of which serve up my
> kind of thing; if each was given an hour a day on a multiplex for
> either some of their existing programming or (as I'd hope) something
> designed to entice the curious rather than satisfy the converted, that
> would be a terrific addition to diversity across the country.
> Especially when you take a spin through DAB as it is at the moment,
> through piles of identikit light rock/MOR/pop stations, and think how
> much seriously good talent is going completely unrepresented.
>
> How much revenue would it have to raise? If you look at whats going on
> online these days, there are all sorts of commercial models that dont'
> rely on pure advertising - and work - so there's room for some
> innovative multiplatform ideas. Digital radio shouldn't be stuck in
> the 70s in _any_ respect, certainly not in its business model.
>
> Rupert


I am still tuned to Radio Luxemburg on 208m