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date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:48:16 +0100,    group: uk.sport.horseracing        back       
Ascot Weds 2nd day views   
After yesterday, this card is going to have to put up some cracking races to 
match it..

2.30

very hard race to fathom so I`ll put up 2 for ew or win and place money.
WAR OFFICER Takes a step up here,but having taken time to learn how to race 
he has now won 4 out of his last 5 over6/ F..His ability to handle the going 
on tust.
AQLAAM duly stepped up lto and is a value ew bet.R Hills prefers him to 
TAWAASH?

3.05

SABANA PERIDA has won 9 races in his short career over 7f-11f and could give 
LEMAIRE the double,pushed for an ew I will put up HARVEST QUEEN of P.Makin 
who is a very shrewd trainer at placing his charges flws

3.45 With MARMALADE being a very short odds fav,how about an ew longshot in 
LOUP BRETON who as G3 and G2 successes to his name and 20-1 looks tasty ;-)

4.20 ROYAL HUNT CUP :-(

I would a lot longer odds than the 7-4 being bandied about BANKABLE even if 
he is 14 stone well in lol.I have already backed LANG SHINING at long odds 
ew his form bears inspection especially SPRING CUP in April,a lot of good 
winners have come from it.My neighbour runs KAVACHI,and given his ability to 
nick these big field h`caps he needs keeping an eye on in the market ...

4.55 I`ve been waiting to see if AOB would put in HEART SHAPED.I rate him 
very highly,based on his win lto and imo could be a good `un for the future. 
Bells BAHAMIAN BABE
who has improved with every run and is unbeaten so far.

5.30. Having come cropper lto I`m a little retiscent to try and get some 
back here with CRUEL SEA. At long odds PRETTY BALLERINA was thought to be 
very useful last season but it did not go to plan,however ran a cracker lto 
and was only beaten in a photo.This is a long way for JOHN JOSEPH MURPHY(an 
Irish trainer)to bring his charge for nothing..

Well have another great days racing...

-- 
David

"That Damn Butterfly"
date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:48:16 +0100   author:   batezee

Re: Ascot Weds 2nd day views   
Have not taken as close a look at proceedings today but here goes...

2:30 Jersey Stakes

DREAM EATER'S 5th in the 2000 Guineas is looking about the best form 
here now and the drop in both class and trip should suite ideally. The 
same comments apply to ROYAL CONFIDENCE who is worth an e/w shout given 
she was only beaten a couple of lengths by Natagora, receives weight all 
round and does not have to find too much on Stimulation on their 
previous form.

3:05 Windsor Forest Stakes

HEAVENT SENT is a typical Pivotal filly and she should take the beating 
here. There are numerous dangers however, Grecian Dancer is one after 
good win last time while Baharah is also respected but one place ahead 
of Baharah last time yet almost 5 times the prices is SELINKA who is 
worth a small e/w bet.

3:45 Prince Of Wales Stakes

Likely to be a typical tactical Aidan O'Brien affair here, which is not 
always for the best (as witnessed in the Queen Anne last time) but I 
think from a value perspective Duke Of Marmalade is worth taking on. 
Literaro may prefer the ground softer while Loup Breton is an 
interesting alternative although may also prefer more cut so the 
preference is for Cecil's PHOENIX TOWER who ran such a solid race with 
the pace of the race against him in the Lockinge. Unexposed at this trip 
I think he can score here and is the value call. Sixties Icon would be a 
  danger if reproducing his best.

4:20 Royal Hunt Cup Handicap

2/1 in a race of this nature is just crazy, where traffic problems are 
more than likely as is the likelihood of the draw conspiring against the 
favourite, not to mention this is much faster ground than he has 
encountered so far. He is clearly ahead on form but I would never 
contemplate taking 2/1 in a race of this nature and I would be tempted 
to put in one of my rare lays on this one.
An alternative is tricky to come up with though. I like the ex-German 
FIGHT CLUB dropping back to a mile after leading for a long way in the 
Brigadier Gerard stakes although I suspect he may be better with cut. 
66/1 is a decent e/w price though.
The slight drop back in trip and first-time blinkers could bring about 
improvement in EMERALD WILDERNESS at 33/1. This is a step up but he has 
been showing improvement the last few seasons and Alan King is 
under-rated on the flat.
The 3rd bullet I will fire is last year's Cambridgeshire runner-up 
DOCOFTHEBAY. Drawn in one and with the first-time blinkers I think he 
could be very tough to beat here and the race should be run to suit his 
hold-up style of running. 12/1 is fair enoughand he is my idea of the 
winner.

4:55 Queen Mary Stakes

Bahamian Babe is interesting for the stable that unleashed the 
impressive Art Connoiseur yesterday while Excellent Show is another 
respected as is the Cheveley Park runner Danehill Destiny. I'm going to 
plump for Hannon's BAILEYS CACAO though who is highly rated by the 
trainer and won impressively last time. 7/1 looks worth an e/w bet in a 
trappy juvenile fillies event.

5:30 Sandringham Handicap

I really like the look of MARAMBA here who will love the fast ground and 
Stoute has to be respected in these Royal Ascot handicaps when he 
unleashes an unexposed type. Gosden's Illusion may give her most to do.









batezee wrote:
> After yesterday, this card is going to have to put up some cracking races to 
> match it..
> 
> 2.30
> 
> very hard race to fathom so I`ll put up 2 for ew or win and place money.
> WAR OFFICER Takes a step up here,but having taken time to learn how to race 
> he has now won 4 out of his last 5 over6/ F..His ability to handle the going 
> on tust.
> AQLAAM duly stepped up lto and is a value ew bet.R Hills prefers him to 
> TAWAASH?
> 
> 3.05
> 
> SABANA PERIDA has won 9 races in his short career over 7f-11f and could give 
> LEMAIRE the double,pushed for an ew I will put up HARVEST QUEEN of P.Makin 
> who is a very shrewd trainer at placing his charges flws
> 
> 3.45 With MARMALADE being a very short odds fav,how about an ew longshot in 
> LOUP BRETON who as G3 and G2 successes to his name and 20-1 looks tasty ;-)
> 
> 4.20 ROYAL HUNT CUP :-(
> 
> I would a lot longer odds than the 7-4 being bandied about BANKABLE even if 
> he is 14 stone well in lol.I have already backed LANG SHINING at long odds 
> ew his form bears inspection especially SPRING CUP in April,a lot of good 
> winners have come from it.My neighbour runs KAVACHI,and given his ability to 
> nick these big field h`caps he needs keeping an eye on in the market ...
> 
> 4.55 I`ve been waiting to see if AOB would put in HEART SHAPED.I rate him 
> very highly,based on his win lto and imo could be a good `un for the future. 
> Bells BAHAMIAN BABE
> who has improved with every run and is unbeaten so far.
> 
> 5.30. Having come cropper lto I`m a little retiscent to try and get some 
> back here with CRUEL SEA. At long odds PRETTY BALLERINA was thought to be 
> very useful last season but it did not go to plan,however ran a cracker lto 
> and was only beaten in a photo.This is a long way for JOHN JOSEPH MURPHY(an 
> Irish trainer)to bring his charge for nothing..
> 
> Well have another great days racing...
>
date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:30:10 +0100   author:   Dave McAuley

Re: Ascot Weds 2nd day views   
"batezee"  wrote in message 
news:6br0q0F3cuugjU1@mid.individual.net...
> 3.45 With MARMALADE being a very short odds fav,how about an ew longshot 
> in LOUP BRETON who as G3 and G2 successes to his name and 20-1 looks tasty 
> ;-)
>
i`m getting worse in my old age I have already backed PHOENIX TOWER @ decent 
ew odds  Whata Mistakea To Makea......
-- 
David

"That Damn Butterfly"
date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:13:34 +0100   author:   batezee

Re: Ascot Weds 2nd day views   
"batezee"  wrote in message 
news:6br0q0F3cuugjU1@mid.individual.net...
> After yesterday, this card is going to have to put up some cracking races 
> to match it..
>
> 2.30
>
> very hard race to fathom so I`ll put up 2 for ew or win and place money.
> WAR OFFICER Takes a step up here,but having taken time to learn how to 
> race he has now won 4 out of his last 5 over6/ F..His ability to handle 
> the going on tust.

racd at the back and although made some progress was too far behind.

> AQLAAM duly stepped up lto and is a value ew bet.R Hills prefers him to 
> TAWAASH?

Ran a cracker winning quite easily in the end sp 1/2 except for those night 
owls who got on early,very early LOL
>
> 3.05
>
> SABANA PERIDA has won 9 races in his short career over 7f-11f and could 
> give LEMAIRE the double,pushed for an ew I will put up HARVEST QUEEN of 
> P.Makin who is a very shrewd trainer at placing his charges flws
>

HQ stayed onwell although not geting into frame.

However Lemaire gave SABANA PERIDA a peach of a ride
holding her upand then coming with a rattle up the stand side to get up 
close home for win number 10


Great start with 4 more to go ;-) wheres Big Ron?
-- 
David

"That Damn Butterfly"
date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:32:05 +0100   author:   batezee

Re: Ascot Weds 2nd day views   
This bloody key board ******G mistake corrected on AQLAAMs price it was 13-2 
not 1/2...
-- 
David

"That Damn Butterfly"
"
date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:34:04 +0100   author:   batezee

Re: Ascot Weds 2nd day views   
batezee wrote:
> This bloody key board ******G mistake corrected on AQLAAMs price it was 13-2 
> not 1/2...


Good shout mate, thought you only backed 1/2 shots ;-)

Made my day laying Bankable just wish that Docofthebay had got up but no 
damage done.
date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:38:46 +0100   author:   Dave McAuley

Re: Ascot Weds 2nd day views   
"Dave McAuley"  wrote in message 
news:UKSdnb3fCYycscTVnZ2dnUVZ8uKdnZ2d@bt.com...
> batezee wrote:
>> This bloody key board ******G mistake corrected on AQLAAMs price it was 
>> 13-2 not 1/2...
>
>
> Good shout mate, thought you only backed 1/2 shots ;-)
>
> Made my day laying Bankable just wish that Docofthebay had got up but no 
> damage done.

The day I back 1-2s is the day I give the game up mate LOL

There was no value in BANKABLE whereever he finished.
-- 
David

"That Damn Butterfly"
date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:43:37 +0100   author:   batezee

Re: Ascot Weds 2nd day views   
"batezee"  wrote in message 
news:6br0q0F3cuugjU1@mid.individual.net...
> After yesterday, this card is going to have to put up some cracking races 
> to match it..
>
> 3.45 With MARMALADE being a very short odds fav,how about an ew longshot 
> in LOUP BRETON who as G3 and G2 successes to his name and 20-1 looks tasty 
> ;-)

LB not mentioned? but PHOENIX TOWER landed my ante post nice ew.MARMALADE is 
a very useful horse to be sure,loved the way h e just stretched out and away 
:-)
>
> 4.20 ROYAL HUNT CUP :-(
>
> I would a lot longer odds than the 7-4 being bandied about BANKABLE even 
> if he is 14 stone well in lol.I have already backed LANG SHINING at long 
> odds ew his form bears inspection especially SPRING CUP in April,a lot of 
> good winners have come from it.My neighbour runs KAVACHI,and given his 
> ability to nick these big field h`caps he needs keeping an eye on in the 
> market ...
>
Dave posted about the Fav,and LANGSHINING was unplaced from a wide draw.
KAVACHI ran a cracker and if Norton had kept on up the rail I think it may 
have been a different result,backed from 40s -33-1 so I do not think my 
neighbour was at it(allegedly)Still 40-1 @ 1/4 odds is much better than 7-4 
only.

turned out nice again int it ;-)
-- 
David

"That Damn Butterfly"
date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:48:59 +0100   author:   batezee

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