YORK

1.40 Taking a chance on CONQUEST the class horse here,now dropped to H`cap 
company and minus the Headware.Another long shot is the enigmatic TORNEDOS 
that is always promising to take one of these,one day?

2.40 Dante

If he takes part he wins,but,if TWICE OVER is pulled out,which seems likely 
,then it is a very open perhaps too open to call imho

4.55 A dodgy 2m 2f marathon with not a strong case to be made for any of 
them :-( However I`ll take 2 agaist the field.KAYF ARAMIS won here last 
year,has`nt done an awful lot since over Hurdles but maybe being back at 
YORK will galvanise him into some sort of run.FLAME CREEK  is getting on but 
showed he is till capable of a decent run, from the bottom of the H`cap.

Later on,in the evening at HQs

8.00 CAT JUNIOR won his only start and looked the part imho it will be 
interesting to see if he has progressed this season

8.30 ESPY can follow up his recent wi at KEMPTON Young Master Buick takes 
off a handy 3lb offsetting his 6lb penalty a little.

I hear they are watering overnight at YORK,which can only be a good thing 
imho.

be lucky
-- 
David

"That Damn Butterfly"

On 14 May, 23:28, "batezee"  wrote:
> YORK
>
> 1.40 Taking a chance on CONQUEST the class horse here,now dropped to H`cap> company and minus the Headware.Another long shot is the enigmatic TORNEDOS> that is always promising to take one of these,one day?
>
> 2.40 Dante
>
> If he takes part he wins,but,if TWICE OVER is pulled out,which seems likely
> ,then it is a very open perhaps too open to call imho
>
> 4.55 A dodgy 2m 2f marathon with not a strong case to be made for any of
> them :-( However I`ll take 2 agaist the field.KAYF ARAMIS won here last
> year,has`nt done an awful lot since over Hurdles but maybe being back at
> YORK will galvanise him into some sort of run.FLAME CREEK  is getting on but
> showed he is till capable of a decent run, from the bottom of the H`cap.
>
> Later on,in the evening at HQs
>
> 8.00 CAT JUNIOR won his only start and looked the part imho it will be
> interesting to see if he has progressed this season
>
> 8.30 ESPY can follow up his recent wi at KEMPTON Young Master Buick takes
> off a handy 3lb offsetting his 6lb penalty a little.
>
> I hear they are watering overnight at YORK,which can only be a good thing
> imho.
>
> be lucky
> --
> David
>
> "That Damn Butterfly"

I would actually go for TARTAN BEARER in opposition to Twice Over. I
fancy Kandahar Run may give Cecil his best chance of another Derby win
anyway but Tartan Bearer is certainly bred for the job being by
Spectrum out of Generous mare and a bruv to Golan. It's a big ask for
him but I don't see he has to step up much more than Twice Over does
based on his run last time and he has more prospect for staying the
distance than Cecil's colt and that is b4 you even start on ground
concerns ;-)

"Dave McAuley"  wrote in message 
news:cda98a6b-e781-42b4-bd1f-bc4541580f52@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
On 14 May, 23:28, "batezee"  wrote:
> YORK
>
> 1.40 Taking a chance on CONQUEST the class horse here,now dropped to H`cap
> company and minus the Headware.Another long shot is the enigmatic TORNEDOS
> that is always promising to take one of these,one day?
>
Well thats paid for a lot of RiojaVouchers *GRIN*  lol. I was watching 
CONQUEST moving into contention(ends up 5th btn a length)when  realised 
TOURNEDOS
was running on strongly on the outside,and got up to win YES! 33-1winner 
deepjoy! seems stupid but I then looked to see if CONQUEST got up for a 
place LOL greedy eh?
-- 
David

"That Damn Butterfly"

"Dave McAuley"  wrote in message 
news:cda98a6b-e781-42b4-bd1f-bc4541580f52@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
On 14 May, 23:28, "batezee"  wrote:
> 2.40 Dante
>
> If he takes part he wins,but,if TWICE OVER is pulled out,which seems 
> likely
> ,then it is a very open perhaps too open to call imho
>
> David
>

I would actually go for TARTAN BEARER in opposition to Twice Over. I
fancy Kandahar Run may give Cecil his best chance of another Derby win
anyway but Tartan Bearer is certainly bred for the job being by
Spectrum out of Generous mare and a bruv to Golan. It's a big ask for
him but I don't see he has to step up much more than Twice Over does
based on his run last time and he has more prospect for staying the
distance than Cecil's colt and that is b4 you even start on ground
concerns ;-)

Good call Dave the colt stayed on well to beat FROZEN FIRE in a 
photo.Bearing in mind the 2nd was beaten 10 Lengths by IBN KHALDUN @ Donny 
and IK is one of my punts for the Derby :-)) I`m now very hopeful.

TWICE OVER obviously did not stay and perhaps The PRIX DU JOCKEY CLUB over 
1m 2f would be a more realistic target imo as he was beaten by two stayers 
today.
-- 
David

"That Damn Butterfly"

batezee wrote:
> "Dave McAuley"  wrote in message 
> news:cda98a6b-e781-42b4-bd1f-bc4541580f52@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> On 14 May, 23:28, "batezee"  wrote:
>> 2.40 Dante
>>
>> If he takes part he wins,but,if TWICE OVER is pulled out,which seems 
>> likely
>> ,then it is a very open perhaps too open to call imho
>>
>> David
>>
> 
> I would actually go for TARTAN BEARER in opposition to Twice Over. I
> fancy Kandahar Run may give Cecil his best chance of another Derby win
> anyway but Tartan Bearer is certainly bred for the job being by
> Spectrum out of Generous mare and a bruv to Golan. It's a big ask for
> him but I don't see he has to step up much more than Twice Over does
> based on his run last time and he has more prospect for staying the
> distance than Cecil's colt and that is b4 you even start on ground
> concerns ;-)
> 
> Good call Dave the colt stayed on well to beat FROZEN FIRE in a 
> photo.Bearing in mind the 2nd was beaten 10 Lengths by IBN KHALDUN @ Donny 
> and IK is one of my punts for the Derby :-)) I`m now very hopeful.
> 
> TWICE OVER obviously did not stay and perhaps The PRIX DU JOCKEY CLUB over 
> 1m 2f would be a more realistic target imo as he was beaten by two stayers 
> today.

I honestly can't believe Tartan Bearer went off at SP of 10/1 today. 
Thought that was an unreal price tbh. Equally so, him being cut into 7/2 
is an over-reaction but can only improve for that and has a similar 
profile to the same connections North Light. Im glad I took a decent 
price before his win today to add to the portfolio.

I am still amazed though that when Confront was beaten in the Craven 
that Twice Over was not aimed at the 2000 Guineas. To me, on breeding he 
is likely to be a lot more effective over a mile than 12 furlongs and 
IMO he should be aimed at the St James Palace stakes.

I am suprised Kandahar Run's price has not contracted as he will surely 
be Cecil's only runner in the Derby this year after that effort and I 
think is equally progressive as Tartan Bearer after a decisive win in 
the Newmarket Stakes last time.

TB and KR  are now my two best wins in the race along with a bet on 
Curtain Call and a free bet on Dr Fremantle who I can't see will line up 
after TB's win today.

The only other that would interest me would be Casual Conquest if he was 
supplemented as he has arguably put up the most impressive trial 
performance or one of the other well-bred colts mentioned in my Derby & 
Oaks post.

Shaping up nicely.

batezee wrote:
> "Dave McAuley"  wrote in message 
> news:cda98a6b-e781-42b4-bd1f-bc4541580f52@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> On 14 May, 23:28, "batezee"  wrote:
>> 2.40 Dante
>>
>> If he takes part he wins,but,if TWICE OVER is pulled out,which seems 
>> likely
>> ,then it is a very open perhaps too open to call imho
>>
>> David
>>
> 
> I would actually go for TARTAN BEARER in opposition to Twice Over. I
> fancy Kandahar Run may give Cecil his best chance of another Derby win
> anyway but Tartan Bearer is certainly bred for the job being by
> Spectrum out of Generous mare and a bruv to Golan. It's a big ask for
> him but I don't see he has to step up much more than Twice Over does
> based on his run last time and he has more prospect for staying the
> distance than Cecil's colt and that is b4 you even start on ground
> concerns ;-)
> 
> Good call Dave the colt stayed on well to beat FROZEN FIRE in a 
> photo.Bearing in mind the 2nd was beaten 10 Lengths by IBN KHALDUN @ Donny 
> and IK is one of my punts for the Derby :-)) I`m now very hopeful.
> 
> TWICE OVER obviously did not stay and perhaps The PRIX DU JOCKEY CLUB over 
> 1m 2f would be a more realistic target imo as he was beaten by two stayers 
> today.

I honestly can't believe Tartan Bearer went off at SP of 10/1 today. 
Thought that was an unreal price tbh. Equally so, him being cut into 7/2 
is an over-reaction but can only improve for that and has a similar 
profile to the same connections North Light. Im glad I took a decent 
price before his win today to add to the portfolio.

I am still amazed though that when Confront was beaten in the Craven 
that Twice Over was not aimed at the 2000 Guineas. To me, on breeding he 
is likely to be a lot more effective over a mile than 12 furlongs and 
IMO he should be aimed at the St James Palace stakes.

I am suprised Kandahar Run's price has not contracted as he will surely 
be Cecil's only runner in the Derby this year after that effort and I 
think is equally progressive as Tartan Bearer after a decisive win in 
the Newmarket Stakes last time.

TB and KR  are now my two best wins in the race along with a bet on 
Curtain Call and a free bet on Dr Fremantle who I can't see will line up 
after TB's win today.

The only other that would interest me would be Casual Conquest if he was 
supplemented as he has arguably put up the most impressive trial 
performance or one of the other well-bred colts mentioned in my Derby & 
Oaks post.

Shaping up nicely.

batezee wrote:
> "Dave McAuley"  wrote in message 
> news:cda98a6b-e781-42b4-bd1f-bc4541580f52@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
> On 14 May, 23:28, "batezee"  wrote:
>> 2.40 Dante
>>
>> If he takes part he wins,but,if TWICE OVER is pulled out,which seems 
>> likely
>> ,then it is a very open perhaps too open to call imho
>>
>> David
>>
> 
> I would actually go for TARTAN BEARER in opposition to Twice Over. I
> fancy Kandahar Run may give Cecil his best chance of another Derby win
> anyway but Tartan Bearer is certainly bred for the job being by
> Spectrum out of Generous mare and a bruv to Golan. It's a big ask for
> him but I don't see he has to step up much more than Twice Over does
> based on his run last time and he has more prospect for staying the
> distance than Cecil's colt and that is b4 you even start on ground
> concerns ;-)
> 
> Good call Dave the colt stayed on well to beat FROZEN FIRE in a 
> photo.Bearing in mind the 2nd was beaten 10 Lengths by IBN KHALDUN @ Donny 
> and IK is one of my punts for the Derby :-)) I`m now very hopeful.
> 
> TWICE OVER obviously did not stay and perhaps The PRIX DU JOCKEY CLUB over 
> 1m 2f would be a more realistic target imo as he was beaten by two stayers 
> today.

I honestly can't believe Tartan Bearer went off at SP of 10/1 today.
Thought that was an unreal price tbh. Equally so, him being cut into 7/2
is an over-reaction but can only improve for that and has a similar
profile to the same connections North Light. Im glad I took a decent
price before his win today to add to the portfolio.

I am still amazed though that when Confront was beaten in the Craven
that Twice Over was not aimed at the 2000 Guineas. To me, on breeding he
is likely to be a lot more effective over a mile than 12 furlongs and
IMO he should be aimed at the St James Palace stakes.

I am suprised Kandahar Run's price has not contracted as he will surely
be Cecil's only runner in the Derby this year after that effort and I
think is equally progressive as Tartan Bearer after a decisive win in
the Newmarket Stakes last time.

TB and KR  are now my two best wins in the race along with a bet on
Curtain Call and a free bet on Dr Fremantle who I can't see will line up
after TB's win today.

The only other that would interest me would be one of the other 
well-bred, lightly raced colts mentioned in my Derby &
Oaks post.

Shaping up nicely.