Just got a new machine, and this Vista is taking some getting used to. Does 
anyone know how to delete old messages? It used to be easy to 'mark all 
read' or to select 'new messages only' . But Even going via Options, 
Maintenance Delete doesn't seem to work on Vista. Can't even fathom which 
address is assigned to a newsgroup message, and how to change it. Seems like 
a different beast altogether.
Talking of Beasts, anyone heard from Firebeast lately?
Cheers Guys

"Dave"  wrote in message 
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> Just got a new machine, and this Vista is taking some getting used to. 
> Does anyone know how to delete old messages? It used to be easy to 'mark 
> all read' or to select 'new messages only' . But Even going via Options, 
> Maintenance Delete doesn't seem to work on Vista. Can't even fathom which 
> address is assigned to a newsgroup message, and how to change it. Seems 
> like a different beast altogether.
> Talking of Beasts, anyone heard from Firebeast lately?
> Cheers Guys

Not sure what you mean - I'm not an expert and maybe you want to do 
something more sophisticated than I do , but I don't find any problems . How 
do you access newsgroups ?

Mike

"Dave"  wrote in message 
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> Just got a new machine, and this Vista is taking some getting used to. 
> Does anyone know how to delete old messages? It used to be easy to 'mark 
> all read' or to select 'new messages only' . But Even going via Options, 
> Maintenance Delete doesn't seem to work on Vista. Can't even fathom which 
> address is assigned to a newsgroup message, and how to change it. Seems 
> like a different beast altogether.
> Talking of Beasts, anyone heard from Firebeast lately?
> Cheers Guys

A fix as been released by M$ to resolve the problem of undeletable mails:

"Messages may be stuck in the Outbox when you use Windows Mail on a computer
that is running Windows Vista"

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/941090

It works for all folders.

The email posting address is changed via WM>Tools>Accounts>select news 
account>properties>general tab.

"   mac"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Dave"  wrote in message 
> news:iQAdj.21995$1j1.19445@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>> Just got a new machine, and this Vista is taking some getting used to. 
>> Does anyone know how to delete old messages? It used to be easy to 'mark 
>> all read' or to select 'new messages only' . But Even going via Options, 
>> Maintenance Delete doesn't seem to work on Vista. Can't even fathom which 
>> address is assigned to a newsgroup message, and how to change it. Seems 
>> like a different beast altogether.
>> Talking of Beasts, anyone heard from Firebeast lately?
>> Cheers Guys
>
> A fix as been released by M$ to resolve the problem of undeletable mails:
>
> "Messages may be stuck in the Outbox when you use Windows Mail on a 
> computer
> that is running Windows Vista"
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/941090
>
> It works for all folders.
>
> The email posting address is changed via WM>Tools>Accounts>select news 
> account>properties>general tab.
>

I'm talking about old newsgroup message headers and bodies, I cannot find a 
way to get rid of them. They are not MSMail messages, just newsgroups. I 
have thousands of the damned things refusing to go away. How come every time 
they upgrade something they make it harder to use?

"Dave"  wrote in message 
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>
> I'm talking about old newsgroup message headers and bodies, I cannot find 
> a way to get rid of them. They are not MSMail messages, just newsgroups. I 
> have thousands of the damned things refusing to go away. How come every 
> time they upgrade something they make it harder to use?

I do that by using a message rule, tools>message rules>news, set it to 
delete from server after ## days, I have two rules actually that I apply 
manually to a folder or the whole server, one is set for 5 days and the 
other 20 days, I do not have them ticked in the list and apply them manually 
as I feel fit.

   mac

Dave wrote:
> Just got a new machine, and this Vista is taking some getting used to. 
> Does anyone know how to delete old messages? It used to be easy to 'mark 
> all read' or to select 'new messages only' . But Even going via Options, 
> Maintenance Delete doesn't seem to work on Vista. Can't even fathom 
> which address is assigned to a newsgroup message, and how to change it. 
> Seems like a different beast altogether.
> Talking of Beasts, anyone heard from Firebeast lately?
> Cheers Guys

Do yourself a favour and re-install XP.
And junk Outlook as your newsreader. Download the much better (and much 
more secure) Thunderbird...and while there, dump IE and get Firefox.

L Lort

llort wrote:
> Dave wrote:
>> Just got a new machine, and this Vista is taking some getting used to. 
>> Does anyone know how to delete old messages? It used to be easy to 
>> 'mark all read' or to select 'new messages only' . But Even going via 
>> Options, Maintenance Delete doesn't seem to work on Vista. Can't even 
>> fathom which address is assigned to a newsgroup message, and how to 
>> change it. Seems like a different beast altogether.
>> Talking of Beasts, anyone heard from Firebeast lately?
>> Cheers Guys
> 
> Do yourself a favour and re-install XP.
> And junk Outlook as your newsreader. Download the much better (and much 
> more secure) Thunderbird...and while there, dump IE and get Firefox.
> 
> L Lort

Yeah I would agree with that, forget Outlook etc although I would 
recommend Seamonkey, much better software developers.

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/

"Dave McAuley"  wrote in message 
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> llort wrote:
>> Dave wrote:
>>> Just got a new machine, and this Vista is taking some getting used to. 
>>> Does anyone know how to delete old messages? It used to be easy to 'mark 
>>> all read' or to select 'new messages only' . But Even going via Options, 
>>> Maintenance Delete doesn't seem to work on Vista. Can't even fathom 
>>> which address is assigned to a newsgroup message, and how to change it. 
>>> Seems like a different beast altogether.
>>> Talking of Beasts, anyone heard from Firebeast lately?
>>> Cheers Guys
>>
>> Do yourself a favour and re-install XP.
>> And junk Outlook as your newsreader. Download the much better (and much 
>> more secure) Thunderbird...and while there, dump IE and get Firefox.
>>
>> L Lort
>
> Yeah I would agree with that, forget Outlook etc although I would 
> recommend Seamonkey, much better software developers.
>
> http://www.seamonkey-project.org/
>
It's okay everyone, I've discovered that there is another mail package 
besides Windows Live Mail and it does behave more like Outlook Express did - 
so I'm sorted. However Excel 2007 is awful to get used to so my 2003 version 
has been loaded, but problems running macro's at first.
Thanks for the helpful hints guys

"Dark Horse"  wrote in message 
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>

> It's okay everyone, I've discovered that there is another mail package 
> besides Windows Live Mail and it does behave more like Outlook Express 
> did - so I'm sorted. However Excel 2007 is awful to get used to so my 2003 
> version has been loaded, but problems running macro's at first.
> Thanks for the helpful hints guys
>

So why did you download that WLM abortion?

WM is the inbuilt mail program within Vista, it is exactly the same animal 
as OE, except for the storage system and the contacts/calendar features.

   mac

" mac"  wrote in message 
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> "Dark Horse"  wrote in message 
> news:FlWdj.20699$ou3.8701@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
>>
>
>> It's okay everyone, I've discovered that there is another mail package 
>> besides Windows Live Mail and it does behave more like Outlook Express 
>> did - so I'm sorted. However Excel 2007 is awful to get used to so my 
>> 2003 version has been loaded, but problems running macro's at first.
>> Thanks for the helpful hints guys
>>
>
> So why did you download that WLM abortion?
>
> WM is the inbuilt mail program within Vista, it is exactly the same animal 
> as OE, except for the storage system and the contacts/calendar features.
>
>   mac

I haven`t got Vista ;-)
-- 
David

"That Damn Butterfly"