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date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:19:51 -0000,    group: uk.sport.horseracing        back       
Denman   
Was at Leopardstown today and have to say wasn't overly impressed with 
Denman's victory. In fairness, the horse always looked like winning, but did 
it dourly rather than stylishly, and, given the standard of opposition, I 
couldn'y say it was a great performance.

Word beforehand indicated that Mossbank could be the one to follow Denman 
in, and that horse certainly looked more like justifying Hourigan's former 
exalted opinion of him, jumping magnificently and leading to a tidy 
forecast. Couldn't think of Mossbank as Gold Cup propisition, but, on 
today's showing, must be worth an interest in Ryanair Chase.
date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:19:51 -0000   author:   MM

Re: Denman   
"MM"  wrote in message 
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> Was at Leopardstown today and have to say wasn't overly impressed with 
> Denman's victory. In fairness, the horse always looked like winning, but 
> did it dourly rather than stylishly, and, given the standard of 
> opposition, I couldn'y say it was a great performance.
>
> Word beforehand indicated that Mossbank could be the one to follow Denman 
> in, and that horse certainly looked more like justifying Hourigan's former 
> exalted opinion of him, jumping magnificently and leading to a tidy 
> forecast. Couldn't think of Mossbank as Gold Cup propisition, but, on 
> today's showing, must be worth an interest in Ryanair Chase.
>
Couldn`t agree more,dour stayer seems to be an apt description of Denboy,so 
far that is. I do not think Mr Smith will be losing any sleep on behalf of 
"Kauto" ;-)
-- 
David

"That Damn Butterfly"
date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:23:54 -0000   author:   batezee

Re: Denman   
"batezee"  wrote in message
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>
> "MM"  wrote in message
> news:fl3i8r$b33$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
> > Was at Leopardstown today and have to say wasn't overly impressed with
> > Denman's victory. In fairness, the horse always looked like winning, but
> > did it dourly rather than stylishly, and, given the standard of
> > opposition, I couldn'y say it was a great performance.
> >
> > Word beforehand indicated that Mossbank could be the one to follow
Denman
> > in, and that horse certainly looked more like justifying Hourigan's
former
> > exalted opinion of him, jumping magnificently and leading to a tidy
> > forecast. Couldn't think of Mossbank as Gold Cup propisition, but, on
> > today's showing, must be worth an interest in Ryanair Chase.
> >
> Couldn`t agree more,dour stayer seems to be an apt description of
Denboy,so
> far that is. I do not think Mr Smith will be losing any sleep on behalf of
> "Kauto" ;-)
> --
> David
>
> "That Damn Butterfly"

Would have been interesting to see Denman rather than Kauto in the King
George - would Denman have won there, do we think?

Ian P
date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:54:08 GMT   author:   IAN

Re: Denman   
"IAN"  wrote in message 
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>
> "batezee"  wrote in message
> news:5tl0q9F1e24btU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "MM"  wrote in message
>> news:fl3i8r$b33$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
>> > Was at Leopardstown today and have to say wasn't overly impressed with
>> > Denman's victory. In fairness, the horse always looked like winning, 
>> > but
>> > did it dourly rather than stylishly, and, given the standard of
>> > opposition, I couldn'y say it was a great performance.
>> >
>> > Word beforehand indicated that Mossbank could be the one to follow
> Denman
>> > in, and that horse certainly looked more like justifying Hourigan's
> former
>> > exalted opinion of him, jumping magnificently and leading to a tidy
>> > forecast. Couldn't think of Mossbank as Gold Cup propisition, but, on
>> > today's showing, must be worth an interest in Ryanair Chase.
>> >
>> Couldn`t agree more,dour stayer seems to be an apt description of
> Denboy,so
>> far that is. I do not think Mr Smith will be losing any sleep on behalf 
>> of
>> "Kauto" ;-)
>> --
>> David
>>
>> "That Damn Butterfly"
>
> Would have been interesting to see Denman rather than Kauto in the King
> George - would Denman have won there, do we think?
>
> Ian P
>
>

Doubt it Ian imho Kautos injection of  pace would have seen off any chance 
Denman(or any other horse)had...In saying that,although it didn`t show today 
Denmans high cruising speed would also put paid to the other runners,seems 
to be his forte again imho
-- 
David

"That Damn Butterfly"
date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 22:13:04 -0000   author:   batezee

Re: Denman   
"batezee"  wrote in message 
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>
> "IAN"  wrote in message 
> news:Avcdj.107$a61.83@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
>>
>>
>> Would have been interesting to see Denman rather than Kauto in the King
>> George - would Denman have won there, do we think?
>>
>> Ian P
>>
>>
>
Sorry Ian,didn`t read your post correctly :-(

In all honesty? I doubt it,I think Exotic Dancer with his usual waiting game 
,would have pounced 2 out and unless Denman has hidden acceleration we 
haven`t seen,he would have been beaten..guess its just opinion a the 
moment,I cannot wait til march *GRIN*
-- 
David

"That Damn Butterfly"
date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 22:16:54 -0000   author:   batezee

Re: Denman   
batezee wrote:
> "MM"  wrote in message 
> news:fl3i8r$b33$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
> 
>>Was at Leopardstown today and have to say wasn't overly impressed with 
>>Denman's victory. In fairness, the horse always looked like winning, but 
>>did it dourly rather than stylishly, and, given the standard of 
>>opposition, I couldn'y say it was a great performance.
>>
>>Word beforehand indicated that Mossbank could be the one to follow Denman 
>>in, and that horse certainly looked more like justifying Hourigan's former 
>>exalted opinion of him, jumping magnificently and leading to a tidy 
>>forecast. Couldn't think of Mossbank as Gold Cup propisition, but, on 
>>today's showing, must be worth an interest in Ryanair Chase.
>>
> 
> Couldn`t agree more,dour stayer seems to be an apt description of Denboy,so 
> far that is. I do not think Mr Smith will be losing any sleep on behalf of 
> "Kauto" ;-)

   I loved AP's comment on how disconcerting it is to be going 
flat out to throw off that star as it cruises up alongside, 
only to hear the other jockey saying "Whoa".

Also educational. I didn't know jocks said "whoa" to slow a 
horse. Do they also say "gee up" ?

Les
date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 08:19:45 +0000   author:   lescor

Re: Denman   
"lescor"  wrote in message 
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> batezee wrote:
>> "MM"  wrote in message 
>> news:fl3i8r$b33$1@reader01.news.esat.net...
>>
>>>Was at Leopardstown today and have to say wasn't overly impressed with 
>>>Denman's victory. In fairness, the horse always looked like winning, but 
>>>did it dourly rather than stylishly, and, given the standard of 
>>>opposition, I couldn'y say it was a great performance.
>>>
>>>Word beforehand indicated that Mossbank could be the one to follow Denman 
>>>in, and that horse certainly looked more like justifying Hourigan's 
>>>former exalted opinion of him, jumping magnificently and leading to a 
>>>tidy forecast. Couldn't think of Mossbank as Gold Cup propisition, but, 
>>>on today's showing, must be worth an interest in Ryanair Chase.
>>>
>>
>> Couldn`t agree more,dour stayer seems to be an apt description of 
>> Denboy,so far that is. I do not think Mr Smith will be losing any sleep 
>> on behalf of "Kauto" ;-)
>
>   I loved AP's comment on how disconcerting it is to be going flat out to 
> throw off that star as it cruises up alongside, only to hear the other 
> jockey saying "Whoa".
>
> Also educational. I didn't know jocks said "whoa" to slow a horse. Do they 
> also say "gee up" ?
>
> Les
>

No its "Giddy up" ;-)
-- 
David

"That Damn Butterfly"
date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 09:13:15 -0000   author:   batezee

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