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date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 02:15:46 -0000,    group: uk.sport.horseracing        back       
Visual Fox-Pro - not really OT   
I was just using Raceform interactive and the RP site when everything 
stopped , and a message appeared saying that VisualFoxPro couldn't open 
because there wasn't enough memory (odd , since I'm using a new computer 
with enough hard disc space to lose the Child Benefit office's database 
without trace, and with 2 Gb of RAM) . I gather VPF is something to do with 
databases. Does any of you know enough about these things to say what's 
going on , and whether the problem is with Raceform or the RP site ?

Mike
date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 02:15:46 -0000   author:   lentulax

Re: Visual Fox-Pro - not really OT   
lentulax wrote:
> I was just using Raceform interactive and the RP site when everything 
> stopped , and a message appeared saying that VisualFoxPro couldn't open 
> because there wasn't enough memory (odd , since I'm using a new computer 
> with enough hard disc space to lose the Child Benefit office's database 
> without trace, and with 2 Gb of RAM) . I gather VPF is something to do 
> with databases. Does any of you know enough about these things to say 
> what's going on , and whether the problem is with Raceform or the RP site ?
> 
> Mike

Hey Mike

Try emailing RI support but my best guess would be that you need to 
increase the size of your virtual memory settings ?

Click on START>CONTROL PANEL>SYSTEM

then go to the ADVANCED TAB

Under PERFORMANCE click SETTINGS

click the ADVANCED TAB

then make sure you have "Adjust for best performance of Programs" set 
for Processor and Memory.

Let me know what your virtual memory is set to

You may need to click on CHANGE and make sure it is set to SYSTEM 
Managed Size
date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:04:02 +0000   author:   Dave McAuley

Re: Visual Fox-Pro - not really OT   
On 21-Nov-2007, "lentulax"  wrote:
> . I gather VPF is something to do with > databases.
Visual FoxPro is a Microsoft database program,
part of Microsoft Visual Studio suite. I have it as
part of Visual Studio, along with the FoxPro
manuals. But cannot for the life of me see the
purpose of FoxPro when there is Excel, and if
needed Access.
I'm surprised that you have Visual FoxPro on
your system unless you bought software based
on it, which would raise copyright issues, since
FoxPro is a Microsoft product and presumably
can't be incorporated in another product without
a licence from Microsoft.
I'm interested in Raceform interactive, is this
a subscription product. I'd like to be able to
extract data with something like a Racing Post
site API (Application Programming Interface).
date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 11:34:57 GMT   author:   unknown

Re: Visual Fox-Pro - not really OT   
"Dave McAuley"  wrote in message 
news:l_ydnR_RfMaLn9nanZ2dnUVZ8ternZ2d@bt.com...
> lentulax wrote:
>> I was just using Raceform interactive and the RP site when everything 
>> stopped , and a message appeared saying that VisualFoxPro couldn't open 
>> because there wasn't enough memory (odd , since I'm using a new computer 
>> with enough hard disc space to lose the Child Benefit office's database 
>> without trace, and with 2 Gb of RAM) . I gather VPF is something to do 
>> with databases. Does any of you know enough about these things to say 
>> what's going on , and whether the problem is with Raceform or the RP site 
>> ?
>>
>> Mike
>
> Hey Mike
>
> Try emailing RI support but my best guess would be that you need to 
> increase the size of your virtual memory settings ?
>
> Click on START>CONTROL PANEL>SYSTEM
>
> then go to the ADVANCED TAB
>
> Under PERFORMANCE click SETTINGS
>
> click the ADVANCED TAB
>
> then make sure you have "Adjust for best performance of Programs" set for 
> Processor and Memory.
>
> Let me know what your virtual memory is set to
>
> You may need to click on CHANGE and make sure it is set to SYSTEM Managed 
> Size
>
 useful tip that Dave, thanks
date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 12:11:35 GMT   author:   Dark Horse

Re: Visual Fox-Pro - not really OT   
"Dave McAuley"  wrote in message 
news:l_ydnR_RfMaLn9nanZ2dnUVZ8ternZ2d@bt.com...
> lentulax wrote:
>> I was just using Raceform interactive and the RP site when everything 
>> stopped , and a message appeared saying that VisualFoxPro couldn't open 
>> because there wasn't enough memory (odd , since I'm using a new computer 
>> with enough hard disc space to lose the Child Benefit office's database 
>> without trace, and with 2 Gb of RAM) . I gather VPF is something to do 
>> with databases. Does any of you know enough about these things to say 
>> what's going on , and whether the problem is with Raceform or the RP site 
>> ?
>>
>> Mike
>
> Hey Mike
>
> Try emailing RI support but my best guess would be that you need to 
> increase the size of your virtual memory settings ?
>
> Click on START>CONTROL PANEL>SYSTEM
>
> then go to the ADVANCED TAB
>
> Under PERFORMANCE click SETTINGS
>
> click the ADVANCED TAB
>
> then make sure you have "Adjust for best performance of Programs" set for 
> Processor and Memory.
>
> Let me know what your virtual memory is set to
>
> You may need to click on CHANGE and make sure it is set to SYSTEM Managed 
> Size


Thanks for the help . The virtual memory is currently set to 2346 MB - does 
that need changing ?

Not so sure about e-mailing RI - in the first place , I can't be sure the 
fault was down to their software ; and anyway I did e-mail them quite a 
number of times a few years ago - they were always polite , but the problems 
weren't resolved !

Mike
date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 23:45:45 -0000   author:   lentulax

Re: Visual Fox-Pro - not really OT   
wrote in message 
news:474417df$0$8413$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk...
>
> On 21-Nov-2007, "lentulax"  wrote:
>> . I gather VPF is something to do with > databases.
> Visual FoxPro is a Microsoft database program,
> part of Microsoft Visual Studio suite. I have it as
> part of Visual Studio, along with the FoxPro
> manuals. But cannot for the life of me see the
> purpose of FoxPro when there is Excel, and if
> needed Access.
> I'm surprised that you have Visual FoxPro on
> your system unless you bought software based
> on it, which would raise copyright issues, since
> FoxPro is a Microsoft product and presumably
> can't be incorporated in another product without
> a licence from Microsoft.
> I'm interested in Raceform interactive, is this
> a subscription product. I'd like to be able to
> extract data with something like a Racing Post
> site API (Application Programming Interface).

Well , I don't know the source of the VPF - I rather assumed it was 
connected with Raceform Interactive ; I do also have the Microsoft Office 
2007 Home/Student Edition (or something like that) which includes Excel , 
Word , One-note and Powerpoint . I think these are the only bits of software 
I've added .

Raceform Interactive is a subscription product . Whether it would suit your 
needs I'm not competent to say . I got my current copy a couple of months 
ago on a special offer lasting until Christmas . I used to subscribe to its 
predecessor (Computer Raceform) , but that had a lot of bugs which they 
didn't seem able to fix , and I gave it up . When it was updated to Raceform 
Interactive I  had a look at the sample disc , but still found bugs in it . 
However , having been given the impression that it had since sorted things 
out , I thought I'd give it another try (and the trial disc has limited 
features) . In fact , I haven't really got round to giving it much of a test 
yet , though in my limited use of it I haven't so far come across any bugs . 
However , it certainly has major weaknesses (for me) in terms of 
functionality and ease of use .

Mike
date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 00:03:33 -0000   author:   lentulax

Re: Visual Fox-Pro - not really OT   
lentulax wrote:
> 
> "Dave McAuley"  wrote in message 
> news:l_ydnR_RfMaLn9nanZ2dnUVZ8ternZ2d@bt.com...
>> lentulax wrote:
>>> I was just using Raceform interactive and the RP site when everything 
>>> stopped , and a message appeared saying that VisualFoxPro couldn't 
>>> open because there wasn't enough memory (odd , since I'm using a new 
>>> computer with enough hard disc space to lose the Child Benefit 
>>> office's database without trace, and with 2 Gb of RAM) . I gather VPF 
>>> is something to do with databases. Does any of you know enough about 
>>> these things to say what's going on , and whether the problem is with 
>>> Raceform or the RP site ?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>
>> Hey Mike
>>
>> Try emailing RI support but my best guess would be that you need to 
>> increase the size of your virtual memory settings ?
>>
>> Click on START>CONTROL PANEL>SYSTEM
>>
>> then go to the ADVANCED TAB
>>
>> Under PERFORMANCE click SETTINGS
>>
>> click the ADVANCED TAB
>>
>> then make sure you have "Adjust for best performance of Programs" set 
>> for Processor and Memory.
>>
>> Let me know what your virtual memory is set to
>>
>> You may need to click on CHANGE and make sure it is set to SYSTEM 
>> Managed Size
> 
> 
> Thanks for the help . The virtual memory is currently set to 2346 MB - 
> does that need changing ?
> 
> Not so sure about e-mailing RI - in the first place , I can't be sure 
> the fault was down to their software ; and anyway I did e-mail them 
> quite a number of times a few years ago - they were always polite , but 
> the problems weren't resolved !
> 
> Mike

That seems like plenty of virtual memory, so long as it states 'system 
managed size' you should be ok there. Must admit I have never seen any 
other errors related to VFP and I use RI pretty much all the time, 
mainly for performing queries etc but also for overnight/future decs and 
for my own ratings etc. I would still email them - they may be able to 
tell you 'sorry we don't use vfp' or 'sorry we don't know what the hell 
that means' ;-)
date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 09:25:16 +0000   author:   Dave McAuley

Re: Visual Fox-Pro - not really OT   
"Dave McAuley"  wrote in message 
news:VcWdnbA1Zpbi19janZ2dnUVZ8vqdnZ2d@bt.com...
> lentulax wrote:
>>
>> "Dave McAuley"  wrote in message 
>> news:l_ydnR_RfMaLn9nanZ2dnUVZ8ternZ2d@bt.com...
>>> lentulax wrote:
>>>> I was just using Raceform interactive and the RP site when everything 
>>>> stopped , and a message appeared saying that VisualFoxPro couldn't open 
>>>> because there wasn't enough memory

>>> Hey Mike
>>>
>>> Try emailing RI support but my best guess would be that you need to 
>>> increase the size of your virtual memory settings ?
>>>
>>>....cut............>>
>>

>> Thanks for the help . The virtual memory is currently set to 2346 MB - 
>> does that need changing ?
>>
>> Not so sure about e-mailing RI -.......cut...............>>

>
> That seems like plenty of virtual memory, so long as it states 'system 
> managed size' you should be ok there. Must admit I have never seen any 
> other errors related to VFP and I use RI pretty much all the time, mainly 
> for performing queries etc but also for overnight/future decs and for my 
> own ratings etc. I would still email them - they may be able to tell you 
> 'sorry we don't use vfp' or 'sorry we don't know what the hell that means' 
> ;-)

OK - I think I'll leave it this time , and e-mail them if it ever happens 
again .

Mike
date: Sat, 24 Nov 2007 02:29:04 -0000   author:   lentulax

Re: Visual Fox-Pro - not really OT   
"lentulax"  wrote in message 
news:5qpgkiF10sii5U1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "Dave McAuley"  wrote in message 
> news:VcWdnbA1Zpbi19janZ2dnUVZ8vqdnZ2d@bt.com...
>> lentulax wrote:
>>>
>>> "Dave McAuley"  wrote in message 
>>> news:l_ydnR_RfMaLn9nanZ2dnUVZ8ternZ2d@bt.com...
>>>> lentulax wrote:
>>>>> I was just using Raceform interactive and the RP site when everything 
>>>>> stopped , and a message appeared saying that VisualFoxPro couldn't 
>>>>> open because there wasn't enough memory
>
>>>> Hey Mike
>>>>
>>>> Try emailing RI support but my best guess would be that you need to 
>>>> increase the size of your virtual memory settings ?
>>>>
>>>>....cut............>>
>>>
>
>>> Thanks for the help . The virtual memory is currently set to 2346 MB - 
>>> does that need changing ?
>>>
>>> Not so sure about e-mailing RI -.......cut...............>>
>
>>
>> That seems like plenty of virtual memory, so long as it states 'system 
>> managed size' you should be ok there. Must admit I have never seen any 
>> other errors related to VFP and I use RI pretty much all the time, mainly 
>> for performing queries etc but also for overnight/future decs and for my 
>> own ratings etc. I would still email them - they may be able to tell you 
>> 'sorry we don't use vfp' or 'sorry we don't know what the hell that 
>> means' ;-)
>
> OK - I think I'll leave it this time , and e-mail them if it ever happens 
> again .
>

It has happened again , so I e-mailed RI , and they replied saying not sure 
, increase the virtual memory , let them know if the problem recurs .

Mike
date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 21:12:06 -0000   author:   lentulax

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