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date: Wed, 21 May 2008 16:23:27 +0100,    group: uk.sport.golf        back       
Handicap query   
Yesterday I played in a team competition which was a qualifier on an away 
course.  I arrived a bit late and our team cards were handed out.  I didn't 
check it and that is entirely my fault but, due to a series of errors, I was 
down as 21 when I have recently gone up to 22.  So, I played with the 21 
handicap and I know that was OK as far as the comp was concerned.

However, though I did not do very well, with the CSS at 75 and my adjusted 
score at 101, my nett would be 80 with 21 handicap and I would be outside my 
buffer zone and go up .1, while if for the purposes of handicap adjustment 
my true handicap of 22 is applied I would be nett 79 and within my buffer 
zone.

The question is - do I have my handicap adjusted according to the handicap I 
played to incorrectly or to my true handicap?

Thanks for any info.
-- 
Peace & Love
Janet H
(Tee off to reply)
date: Wed, 21 May 2008 16:23:27 +0100   author:   Janet Homer

Re: Handicap query   
Janet Homer wrote:
> Yesterday I played in a team competition which was a qualifier on an away 
> course.  I arrived a bit late and our team cards were handed out.  I didn't 
> check it and that is entirely my fault but, due to a series of errors, I was 
> down as 21 when I have recently gone up to 22.  So, I played with the 21 
> handicap and I know that was OK as far as the comp was concerned.
> 
> However, though I did not do very well, with the CSS at 75 and my adjusted 
> score at 101, my nett would be 80 with 21 handicap and I would be outside my 
> buffer zone and go up .1, while if for the purposes of handicap adjustment 
> my true handicap of 22 is applied I would be nett 79 and within my buffer 
> zone.
> 
> The question is - do I have my handicap adjusted according to the handicap I 
> played to incorrectly or to my true handicap?

As this was presumably a stroke-play competition, you are required to 
report only your gross score and CSS, along with an indication of any 
clause 19.1 adjustments (the latter has been added since I looked after 
handicaps).  The nett double bogey business will be the only way that 
your true handicap will be considered.  I think that using it is the 
right thing to do, although I can't find chapter and verse in the CONGU 
regulations to back this up.  (The best argument is that home scores 
would typically be entered as gross scores only, with no regard to what 
you thought you were playing off.)  Handicap systems are supposed to be 
able to re-calculate handicap adjustments after any new information 
comes to light, so in that respect they are blind to your playing 
handicap on the day.  CSS calculations stand, even if mistakes had been 
made which may have had an effect.

HTH.
date: Wed, 21 May 2008 17:35:49 +0100   author:   John Laird

Re: Handicap query   
"John Laird"  wrote in message 
news:48344f6d$0$2491$da0feed9@news.zen.co.uk...
> Janet Homer wrote:
>> Yesterday I played in a team competition which was a qualifier on an away 
>> course.  I arrived a bit late and our team cards were handed out.  I 
>> didn't check it and that is entirely my fault but, due to a series of 
>> errors, I was down as 21 when I have recently gone up to 22.  So, I 
>> played with the 21 handicap and I know that was OK as far as the comp was 
>> concerned.
>>
>> However, though I did not do very well, with the CSS at 75 and my 
>> adjusted score at 101, my nett would be 80 with 21 handicap and I would 
>> be outside my buffer zone and go up .1, while if for the purposes of 
>> handicap adjustment my true handicap of 22 is applied I would be nett 79 
>> and within my buffer zone.
>>
>> The question is - do I have my handicap adjusted according to the 
>> handicap I played to incorrectly or to my true handicap?
>
> As this was presumably a stroke-play competition, you are required to 
> report only your gross score and CSS, along with an indication of any 
> clause 19.1 adjustments (the latter has been added since I looked after 
> handicaps).  The nett double bogey business will be the only way that your 
> true handicap will be considered.  I think that using it is the right 
> thing to do, although I can't find chapter and verse in the CONGU 
> regulations to back this up.  (The best argument is that home scores would 
> typically be entered as gross scores only, with no regard to what you 
> thought you were playing off.)  Handicap systems are supposed to be able 
> to re-calculate handicap adjustments after any new information comes to 
> light, so in that respect they are blind to your playing handicap on the 
> day.  CSS calculations stand, even if mistakes had been made which may 
> have had an effect.
>
> HTH.

Yes, thank you, John.
-- 
Peace & Love
Janet H
(Tee off to reply)
date: Wed, 21 May 2008 17:44:18 +0100   author:   Janet Homer

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