Anyone used a golf gps?

"Thomopac"  wrote in 
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> Anyone used a golf gps? 
> 
> 
> 


We have GPS on our buggies at Addington Court and find it quite useful; but 
if you know your own courses as well as I do (The Championship and the 
Falconwood) then it really becomes a bit unnecessary.  I think with the new 
R&A ruling (committees can decide to make a local rule allowing measuring 
electrickery) that they will proliferate and certainly on a course that one 
has never played before, I can see the value.  But overall - no, a good 
golfer *knows* what 174 yards is like!!

NB

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 18:33:46 -0000, "Thomopac"
 wrote:

>Anyone used a golf gps? 

We bought my dad a Sky Caddie SG4 for Christmas.  He is an engineer
and loves gadgets, data, etc.  He's played with it a couple of times
and loves it so far.  The only thing he's noticed so far is that it
takes about 5 seconds to triangulate the distance once you stop next
to your bag.  That seems to be a lot faster than how long it would
take pull out your laser range finder and spot the flag.  
-- 
jvdp
Conspiring against Koenig since 2007
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com

"John van der Pflum"  wrote in message 
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> On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 18:33:46 -0000, "Thomopac"
>  wrote:
>
>>Anyone used a golf gps?
>
> We bought my dad a Sky Caddie SG4 for Christmas.  He is an engineer
> and loves gadgets, data, etc.  He's played with it a couple of times
> and loves it so far.  The only thing he's noticed so far is that it
> takes about 5 seconds to triangulate the distance once you stop next
> to your bag.  That seems to be a lot faster than how long it would
> take pull out your laser range finder and spot the flag.
> -- 
> jvdp
> Conspiring against Koenig since 2007
> http://www.rsgcincinnati.com

Wouldn't it be more cost effective to map the yardage with a tape measure 
for everyone to see?
This is what I call killing the 'game'.

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 23:50:56 GMT, "Peter" 
wrote:

>"John van der Pflum"  wrote in message 
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>> On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 18:33:46 -0000, "Thomopac"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>Anyone used a golf gps?
>>
>> We bought my dad a Sky Caddie SG4 for Christmas.  He is an engineer
>> and loves gadgets, data, etc.  He's played with it a couple of times
>> and loves it so far.  The only thing he's noticed so far is that it
>> takes about 5 seconds to triangulate the distance once you stop next
>> to your bag.  That seems to be a lot faster than how long it would
>> take pull out your laser range finder and spot the flag.
>> -- 
>> jvdp
>> Conspiring against Koenig since 2007
>> http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
>
>Wouldn't it be more cost effective to map the yardage with a tape measure 
>for everyone to see?
>This is what I call killing the 'game'. 
>

Why would it be more cost effective?  Can you imagine the man hours
required to put out all that tape not to mention the environmental
impact of having all that tape laying around all over the courses?  

Surely the tape would ruin the atmosphere of the great golf courses of
the world such as The Old Course and Royal Dornoch?  

What would the status of such tape be under the Rules of Golf?  I
expect it would be a movable obstruction.  The numerous drops required
for relief of such obstructions would surely exacerbate the problem of
slow play.  
-- 
jvdp
Conspiring against Koenig since 2007
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:38:27 -0500, John van der Pflum >
>What would the status of such tape be under the Rules of Golf?  I
>expect it would be a movable obstruction.  The numerous drops required
>for relief of such obstructions would surely exacerbate the problem of
>slow play.  

Or perhaps the tape would be considered a loose impediment?  
-- 
jvdp
Conspiring against Koenig since 2007
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:00:27 -0500, John van der Pflum
 wrote:

> On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:38:27 -0500, John van der Pflum >
> >What would the status of such tape be under the Rules of Golf?  I
> >expect it would be a movable obstruction.  The numerous drops required
> >for relief of such obstructions would surely exacerbate the problem of
> >slow play.  
> 
> Or perhaps the tape would be considered a loose impediment?  
Not unless it was made from recycled gorse.

"Nigel B"  wrote in message 
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> "Thomopac"  wrote in
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>
>> Anyone used a golf gps?
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> We have GPS on our buggies at Addington Court and find it quite useful; 
> but
> if you know your own courses as well as I do (The Championship and the
> Falconwood) then it really becomes a bit unnecessary.  I think with the 
> new
> R&A ruling (committees can decide to make a local rule allowing measuring
> electrickery) that they will proliferate and certainly on a course that 
> one
> has never played before, I can see the value.  But overall - no, a good
> golfer *knows* what 174 yards is like!!
>
> NB
I am at a new course that has no markers, so on a half the holes i have no 
idea of distance? Does that make me a bad golfer?

"Thomopac"  wrote in
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> "Nigel B"  wrote in message 
> news:Xns9A16E3E3293A5nothomenow@195.188.240.200...
>> "Thomopac"  wrote in
>> news:0P6dnRhwnrwbeeranZ2dnUVZ8uSdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk:
>>
>>> Anyone used a golf gps?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> We have GPS on our buggies at Addington Court and find it quite
>> useful; but
>> if you know your own courses as well as I do (The Championship and
>> the Falconwood) then it really becomes a bit unnecessary.  I think
>> with the new
>> R&A ruling (committees can decide to make a local rule allowing
>> measuring electrickery) that they will proliferate and certainly on a
>> course that one
>> has never played before, I can see the value.  But overall - no, a
>> good golfer *knows* what 174 yards is like!!
>>
>> NB
> I am at a new course that has no markers, so on a half the holes i
> have no idea of distance? Does that make me a bad golfer? 
> 
> 
> 

No, that is specifically NOT what I am saying.  But why are you playing 
on such a lousy course?  ;-)

If you genuinely have *no* idea of distance, I would strongly suggest you 
try to get someone to walk ahundred yards ahead of you one day and see 
how far that is and try to remember.....

NB

"Nigel B"  wrote in message 
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> "Thomopac"  wrote in
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>> "Nigel B"  wrote in message
>> news:Xns9A16E3E3293A5nothomenow@195.188.240.200...
>>> "Thomopac"  wrote in
>>> news:0P6dnRhwnrwbeeranZ2dnUVZ8uSdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk:
>>>
>>>> Anyone used a golf gps?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We have GPS on our buggies at Addington Court and find it quite
>>> useful; but
>>> if you know your own courses as well as I do (The Championship and
>>> the Falconwood) then it really becomes a bit unnecessary.  I think
>>> with the new
>>> R&A ruling (committees can decide to make a local rule allowing
>>> measuring electrickery) that they will proliferate and certainly on a
>>> course that one
>>> has never played before, I can see the value.  But overall - no, a
>>> good golfer *knows* what 174 yards is like!!
>>>
>>> NB
>> I am at a new course that has no markers, so on a half the holes i
>> have no idea of distance? Does that make me a bad golfer?
>>
>>
>>
>
> No, that is specifically NOT what I am saying.  But why are you playing
> on such a lousy course?  ;-)
>
> If you genuinely have *no* idea of distance, I would strongly suggest you
> try to get someone to walk ahundred yards ahead of you one day and see
> how far that is and try to remember.....
>
> NB
Its not that I can judge some but on others i have no idea, the course used 
to have 150m markers and are waiting for the new 150yrd markers to arrive.On 
my old course i could be anywhere on the course and have a good idea on 
distance and club selection.

"John van der Pflum"  wrote in message 
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> On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:38:27 -0500, John van der Pflum >
>>What would the status of such tape be under the Rules of Golf?  I
>>expect it would be a movable obstruction.  The numerous drops required
>>for relief of such obstructions would surely exacerbate the problem of
>>slow play.
>
> Or perhaps the tape would be considered a loose impediment?
> -- 
> jvdp
> Conspiring against Koenig since 2007
> http://www.rsgcincinnati.com

John

No offence, I think the sarchasm was lost on you.
There are adequate markers on most golf courses to make an educated distance 
assessment between tees and greens without the use of GPS .  Any golfer 
worth his salt on a course wouldn't need that type of assistance IMHO.

"Nigel B"  wrote in message 
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> "Thomopac"  wrote in
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>
>> "Nigel B"  wrote in message
>> news:Xns9A16E3E3293A5nothomenow@195.188.240.200...
>>> "Thomopac"  wrote in
>>> news:0P6dnRhwnrwbeeranZ2dnUVZ8uSdnZ2d@eclipse.net.uk:
>>>
>>>> Anyone used a golf gps?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We have GPS on our buggies at Addington Court and find it quite
>>> useful; but
>>> if you know your own courses as well as I do (The Championship and
>>> the Falconwood) then it really becomes a bit unnecessary.  I think
>>> with the new
>>> R&A ruling (committees can decide to make a local rule allowing
>>> measuring electrickery) that they will proliferate and certainly on a
>>> course that one
>>> has never played before, I can see the value.  But overall - no, a
>>> good golfer *knows* what 174 yards is like!!
>>>
>>> NB
>> I am at a new course that has no markers, so on a half the holes i
>> have no idea of distance? Does that make me a bad golfer?
>>
>>
>>
>
> No, that is specifically NOT what I am saying.  But why are you playing
> on such a lousy course?  ;-)
>
> If you genuinely have *no* idea of distance, I would strongly suggest you
> try to get someone to walk ahundred yards ahead of you one day and see
> how far that is and try to remember.....
>
> NB

School football pitches are usually 110 yards between the goal posts.
That distance is dead easy to assess and remember.

On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:01:51 GMT, "Peter" 
wrote:

>
>"John van der Pflum"  wrote in message 
>news:somgn353pbf5sc9vavmsu6s6ncl9gt0cmq@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:38:27 -0500, John van der Pflum >
>>>What would the status of such tape be under the Rules of Golf?  I
>>>expect it would be a movable obstruction.  The numerous drops required
>>>for relief of such obstructions would surely exacerbate the problem of
>>>slow play.
>>
>> Or perhaps the tape would be considered a loose impediment?
>> -- 
>> jvdp
>> Conspiring against Koenig since 2007
>> http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
>
>John
>
>No offence, I think the sarchasm was lost on you.
>There are adequate markers on most golf courses to make an educated distance 
>assessment between tees and greens without the use of GPS .  Any golfer 
>worth his salt on a course wouldn't need that type of assistance IMHO.
>

Peter,

None taken!  I hope you feel the same.  My post had much of the same
facetious "humor".  :-)  

I agree with you on the knowledge of the distance.  Most golfers
should be able to eyeball most distances.   There are a couple of
situations where it could be useful, IMO.  There are times when one
finds oneself in the #6 fairway but playing to the #4 green.  :-)  

Another situation would be blind shots with hazards in the landing
area.  Taken my father's club, for example.  On the par 5 14th hole
(http://tinyurl.com/ynqhag) you will often find yourself hitting a
blind shot to bottom of the hill and flirting with the creek.  
-- 
jvdp
Conspiring against Koenig since 2007
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com

John van der Pflum wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:01:51 GMT, "Peter" 
> wrote:
> 
>> "John van der Pflum"  wrote in message 
>> news:somgn353pbf5sc9vavmsu6s6ncl9gt0cmq@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:38:27 -0500, John van der Pflum >
>>>> What would the status of such tape be under the Rules of Golf?  I
>>>> expect it would be a movable obstruction.  The numerous drops required
>>>> for relief of such obstructions would surely exacerbate the problem of
>>>> slow play.
>>> Or perhaps the tape would be considered a loose impediment?
>>> -- 
>>> jvdp
>>> Conspiring against Koenig since 2007
>>> http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
>> John
>>
>> No offence, I think the sarchasm was lost on you.
>> There are adequate markers on most golf courses to make an educated distance 
>> assessment between tees and greens without the use of GPS .  Any golfer 
>> worth his salt on a course wouldn't need that type of assistance IMHO.
>>
> 
> Peter,
> 
> None taken!  I hope you feel the same.  My post had much of the same
> facetious "humor".  :-)  
> 
> I agree with you on the knowledge of the distance.  Most golfers
> should be able to eyeball most distances.   There are a couple of
> situations where it could be useful, IMO.  There are times when one
> finds oneself in the #6 fairway but playing to the #4 green.  :-)  
> 
> Another situation would be blind shots with hazards in the landing
> area.  Taken my father's club, for example.  On the par 5 14th hole
> (http://tinyurl.com/ynqhag) you will often find yourself hitting a
> blind shot to bottom of the hill and flirting with the creek.  

Having been introduced, by an irregular hickory using poster to this 
forum, some years ago to a more 'naked' style of playing without using a 
Strokesaver (TM) and just assessing distance and line by eye alone with 
the sole reference to distance with the scorecard and maybe a random 
150yrd marker, my enjoyment of the game (and speed of play) has improved 
immensely. Not only that but my appreciation of the designer's style and 
my own skill, for what it is, has also improved.

Playing golf takes one of three forms: regular home club; occasional 
courses visited occasionally over time; and courses visited only once. 
During all of these experiences I think it's a shame to miss whatever 
the course has to offer by burying one's head in a planner or constantly 
referring to some electrical gizmo, for that is how it gets when 
equipment like this is used.

I'm not advocating a returning to some mythical purist form of golf from 
the good old days for they never existed and golfers have always been 
tempted by the latest technologies, it's just that these particular 
distance aids are best a distraction and at worst useless because 
general layout, weather and playing conditions govern how one would 
actually play a hole. Judging the true distance and envisioning how the 
ball will actually travel is such a major part of the fun and skill of 
the game.

I don't think the day when such a battle against natural elements or the 
wickedness and temptations set up by golf course designers, ancient and 
modern, is condensed down to a clinical calculation of 150 yard = 6 iron 
has happened in the real world though I can see the computer game 
generation may find it attractive.

-- 
Durram

On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:20:31 +0000, "Durram (Demetri)"
 wrote:

> I don't think the day when such a battle against natural elements or the 
> wickedness and temptations set up by golf course designers, ancient and 
> modern, is condensed down to a clinical calculation of 150 yard = 6 iron 
> has happened in the real world though I can see the computer game 
> generation may find it attractive.

I'm very far from the computer game generation, I must confess; still,
the thought of a 150 yard 6-Iron shot provides some excitement here.
Tell me the technology that'll produce that, and I'll run out and buy
it post-haste!
:-)
p.

Peter Strauss wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:20:31 +0000, "Durram (Demetri)"
>  wrote:
> 
>> I don't think the day when such a battle against natural elements or the 
>> wickedness and temptations set up by golf course designers, ancient and 
>> modern, is condensed down to a clinical calculation of 150 yard = 6 iron 
>> has happened in the real world though I can see the computer game 
>> generation may find it attractive.
> 
> I'm very far from the computer game generation, I must confess; still,
> the thought of a 150 yard 6-Iron shot provides some excitement here.
> Tell me the technology that'll produce that, and I'll run out and buy
> it post-haste!
> :-)
> p.

A following wind, downhill and icy ground may help ;-)

On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:04:34 GMT, Peter said...
> 
> School football pitches are usually 110 yards between the goal posts.
> That distance is dead easy to assess and remember. 

That's a pretty wide goal mouth. Ho ho ho.

Happy New Year everyone.

-- 
Mark Myers
usenet at mcm2007 dot plus dot com
I call that a radical interpretation of the text.

"Durram (Demetri)"  wrote in message 
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> Peter Strauss wrote:
>> On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:20:31 +0000, "Durram (Demetri)"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think the day when such a battle against natural elements or the 
>>> wickedness and temptations set up by golf course designers, ancient and 
>>> modern, is condensed down to a clinical calculation of 150 yard = 6 iron 
>>> has happened in the real world though I can see the computer game 
>>> generation may find it attractive.
>>
>> I'm very far from the computer game generation, I must confess; still,
>> the thought of a 150 yard 6-Iron shot provides some excitement here.
>> Tell me the technology that'll produce that, and I'll run out and buy
>> it post-haste!
>> :-)
>> p.
>
> A following wind, downhill and icy ground may help ;-)

Yeah I wish too.........

"Peter"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Durram (Demetri)"  wrote in message 
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>> Peter Strauss wrote:
>>> On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:20:31 +0000, "Durram (Demetri)"
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't think the day when such a battle against natural elements or 
>>>> the wickedness and temptations set up by golf course designers, ancient 
>>>> and modern, is condensed down to a clinical calculation of 150 yard = 6 
>>>> iron has happened in the real world though I can see the computer game 
>>>> generation may find it attractive.
>>>
>>> I'm very far from the computer game generation, I must confess; still,
>>> the thought of a 150 yard 6-Iron shot provides some excitement here.
>>> Tell me the technology that'll produce that, and I'll run out and buy
>>> it post-haste!
>>> :-)
>>> p.
>>
>> A following wind, downhill and icy ground may help ;-)
>
> Yeah I wish too.........
>
Am I missing something here?
For me a 6 iron is 150 yards.
Some of the people I play with (Seniors) expect to hit a 6 iron a little 
further.
Most players of lesser years would be down to a 8 iron for this distance.
I don't think we are unusual

Denis

Peter wrote:
> "Durram (Demetri)"  wrote in message 
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>> Peter Strauss wrote:
>>> On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:20:31 +0000, "Durram (Demetri)"
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't think the day when such a battle against natural elements or the 
>>>> wickedness and temptations set up by golf course designers, ancient and 
>>>> modern, is condensed down to a clinical calculation of 150 yard = 6 iron 
>>>> has happened in the real world though I can see the computer game 
>>>> generation may find it attractive.
>>> I'm very far from the computer game generation, I must confess; still,
>>> the thought of a 150 yard 6-Iron shot provides some excitement here.
>>> Tell me the technology that'll produce that, and I'll run out and buy
>>> it post-haste!
>>> :-)
>>> p.
>> A following wind, downhill and icy ground may help ;-)
> 
> Yeah I wish too......... 
> 
> 

I knew that would happen, as soon as I equated 150 yard to a 6 iron the 
jibes would come but I expected the 'I take a 9 iron for 160 and a wedge 
for 140 etc' yoot brigade to chirp in first, not the geezers ;-)

Maybe I posted to the wrong newsgroup, if this was in RSG it would be 
flaming hot with bait like that by now with stories about scores not how 
and Sam Snead and Hogan or whoever could hit 150 with anything between 
an uprooted telegraph pole to the round side of a dessert spoon.

-- 
D

On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 12:10:21 -0000, Denis Cary said...
> >
> Am I missing something here?
> For me a 6 iron is 150 yards.
> Some of the people I play with (Seniors) expect to hit a 6 iron a little 
> further.
> Most players of lesser years would be down to a 8 iron for this distance.
> I don't think we are unusual

Neither do I. 6i = 150 - 155 yds for me, in the summer (knock 10 off in 
the winter). I am certainly not exceptional.

-- 
Mark Myers
usenet at mcm2007 dot plus dot com
I call that a radical interpretation of the text.

On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:11:00 +0000, Demetri (Durram) said...
> 
> I knew that would happen, as soon as I equated 150 yard to a 6 iron the 
> jibes would come but I expected the 'I take a 9 iron for 160 and a wedge 
> for 140 etc' yoot brigade to chirp in first, not the geezers ;-)
> 
> Maybe I posted to the wrong newsgroup, if this was in RSG it would be 
> flaming hot with bait like that by now with stories about scores not how 
> and Sam Snead and Hogan or whoever could hit 150 with anything between 
> an uprooted telegraph pole to the round side of a dessert spoon.

The only HIO I've ever seen was at a 145 yds par 3. Two bounces and in 
with a 9i. Level ground, no wind. People are quite different from each 
other, thankfully.

-- 
Mark Myers
usenet at mcm2007 dot plus dot com
I call that a radical interpretation of the text.

On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:11:00 +0000, "Demetri (Durram)"
 wrote:

>Peter wrote:
>> "Durram (Demetri)"  wrote in message 
>> news:flevgq$ts2$1@aioe.org...
>>> Peter Strauss wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:20:31 +0000, "Durram (Demetri)"
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I don't think the day when such a battle against natural elements or the 
>>>>> wickedness and temptations set up by golf course designers, ancient and 
>>>>> modern, is condensed down to a clinical calculation of 150 yard = 6 iron 
>>>>> has happened in the real world though I can see the computer game 
>>>>> generation may find it attractive.
>>>> I'm very far from the computer game generation, I must confess; still,
>>>> the thought of a 150 yard 6-Iron shot provides some excitement here.
>>>> Tell me the technology that'll produce that, and I'll run out and buy
>>>> it post-haste!
>>>> :-)
>>>> p.
>>> A following wind, downhill and icy ground may help ;-)
>> 
>> Yeah I wish too......... 
>> 
>> 
>
>I knew that would happen, as soon as I equated 150 yard to a 6 iron the 
>jibes would come but I expected the 'I take a 9 iron for 160 and a wedge 
>for 140 etc' yoot brigade to chirp in first, not the geezers ;-)
>
>Maybe I posted to the wrong newsgroup, if this was in RSG it would be 
>flaming hot with bait like that by now with stories about scores not how 
>and Sam Snead and Hogan or whoever could hit 150 with anything between 
>an uprooted telegraph pole to the round side of a dessert spoon.

LOL.  Great post, Demetri.  
-- 
jvdp
Conspiring against Koenig since 2007
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com