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date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:53:07 +0100,    group: uk.sport.golf        back       
Beginner   
Anyone got any advice for a newbie?

I just bought a set of Hippo OS4 Evolution clubs and I'm very happy with 
them. I've tried them out and they are a cracking starter set. I like the 
way the weight on the bottom of the irons are placed in the optimum area of 
the club to help with the swing/shot for that particular club. For example, 
the weight is on the heel of the PW and SW but on the 4 iron, the weight is 
on the toe end.

Anyone got any advice on anything to do with golf? Tips, swing advice, 
putting advice, driving advice, additional training aids, gear etc.....
date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:53:07 +0100   author:   Bunford

Re: Beginner   
Bunford wrote:
> Anyone got any advice for a newbie?
>
> I just bought a set of Hippo OS4 Evolution clubs and I'm very happy
> with them. I've tried them out and they are a cracking starter set. I
> like the way the weight on the bottom of the irons are placed in the
> optimum area of the club to help with the swing/shot for that
> particular club. For example, the weight is on the heel of the PW and
> SW but on the 4 iron, the weight is on the toe end.
>
> Anyone got any advice on anything to do with golf? Tips, swing advice,
> putting advice, driving advice, additional training aids, gear
> etc.....

To (mis)quote Tony Blair -- Lessons, lessons, lessons.

KenH



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date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:10:21 +0100   author:   marush

Re: Beginner   
Bunford wrote:
> Anyone got any advice for a newbie?
> 
> I just bought a set of Hippo OS4 Evolution clubs and I'm very happy with 
> them. I've tried them out and they are a cracking starter set. I like the 
> way the weight on the bottom of the irons are placed in the optimum area of 
> the club to help with the swing/shot for that particular club. For example, 
> the weight is on the heel of the PW and SW but on the 4 iron, the weight is 
> on the toe end.
> 
> Anyone got any advice on anything to do with golf? Tips, swing advice, 
> putting advice, driving advice, additional training aids, gear etc..... 
> 
> 
Hit it , find it , hit it again!
  Have fun, don't expect instant success - get some lessons and then 
practice hitting it , finding it and hitting it again.
Spend more time on practising the short game than whacking balls at the 
range.
date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:21:23 GMT   author:   mike short

Re: Beginner   
"Bunford"  wrote in message 
news:46f7c15c$1_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> Anyone got any advice for a newbie?
>
> I just bought a set of Hippo OS4 Evolution clubs and I'm very happy with 
> them. I've tried them out and they are a cracking starter set. I like the 
> way the weight on the bottom of the irons are placed in the optimum area 
> of the club to help with the swing/shot for that particular club. For 
> example, the weight is on the heel of the PW and SW but on the 4 iron, the 
> weight is on the toe end.
>
> Anyone got any advice on anything to do with golf? Tips, swing advice, 
> putting advice, driving advice, additional training aids, gear etc.....
>

Get some lessons from your local pro.

There's no point in practising if you're reinforcing bad habits and the only 
way you'll find out what you're not doing right is by getting lessons.


Stephen
date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:32:11 +0100   author:   Stephen Stewart

Re: Beginner   
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:53:07 +0100, "Bunford"
 wrote:

>Anyone got any advice for a newbie?
>
>I just bought a set of Hippo OS4 Evolution clubs and I'm very happy with 
>them. I've tried them out and they are a cracking starter set. I like the 
>way the weight on the bottom of the irons are placed in the optimum area of 
>the club to help with the swing/shot for that particular club. For example, 
>the weight is on the heel of the PW and SW but on the 4 iron, the weight is 
>on the toe end.
>
>Anyone got any advice on anything to do with golf? Tips, swing advice, 
>putting advice, driving advice, additional training aids, gear etc..... 
>

Just a few things that make the game more fun for me:

Read the rules:
http://www.randa.org/index.cfm?action=rules.home

Walk and carry your bag.

Don't take the game to serious.

It's all right to play poorly.  Just don't play slowly.  

As a couple of other people have said -- lessons.  
-- 
jvdp
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:01:10 -0400   author:   John van der Pflum

Re: Beginner   
Bunford in <46f7c15c$1_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>:

>Anyone got any advice for a newbie?
>
>I just bought a set of Hippo OS4 Evolution clubs and I'm very happy with 
>them. I've tried them out and they are a cracking starter set. I like the 
>way the weight on the bottom of the irons are placed in the optimum area of 
>the club to help with the swing/shot for that particular club. For example, 
>the weight is on the heel of the PW and SW but on the 4 iron, the weight is 
>on the toe end.
>
>Anyone got any advice on anything to do with golf? Tips, swing advice, 
>putting advice, driving advice, additional training aids, gear etc..... 

If British golfers act as Germans do, I'd fear that you will get more
advice on the course than you want to hear ;->

Nevertheless, some general advice which may be boring but proved true and
helpful for me:

- Think positive!
=> Do not think "not into the bunker" but "onto the green"

- Get yourself some aims: For each shot, for each hole, for each round.
including this most important hint for beginners:
- Forget the word "Par"!
=> Where can you place the ball with the next shot?
=> Which score is a realistic challenge for each hole, for today's round?

- Stay humble.
- Play the shots that you can but not those you only want to be able to.
=> I do frequently earn better scores when I chose one iron more for the
next shot.

- Have fun on the course!

Paul
date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:09:25 +0200   author:   Paul Schmitz-Josten

Re: Beginner   
John van der Pflum  wrote 
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:53:07 +0100, "Bunford"
>  wrote:
> 
>>Anyone got any advice for a newbie?

> Just a few things that make the game more fun for me:

> Walk and carry your bag.

Interesting, that's the worst part of the game for me, which is why I don't 
do it any more, I always found that after a few holes of carrying my bag my 
right shoulder was aching and I couldn't swing properly, so my swing was 
adversely affected, I don't really see how that makes the game fun.

Toby.
date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:50:51 GMT   author:   The LHC

Re: Beginner   
Paul Schmitz-Josten  wrote 
> Bunford in <46f7c15c$1_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>:
 
>>Anyone got any advice for a newbie?

> If British golfers act as Germans do, I'd fear that you will get more
> advice on the course than you want to hear ;->
 
> Nevertheless, some general advice which may be boring but proved true
> and helpful for me:
 
> - Think positive!
> => Do not think "not into the bunker" but "onto the green"

Think of if this way, most greens are a damn sight bigger than most 
bunkers, so it should be easier to hit the green than the bunker, right?
 
Toby.
date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:52:47 GMT   author:   The LHC

Re: Beginner   
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:50:51 GMT, The LHC 
wrote:

>John van der Pflum  wrote 
>> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:53:07 +0100, "Bunford"
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>>Anyone got any advice for a newbie?
>
>> Just a few things that make the game more fun for me:
>
>> Walk and carry your bag.
>
>Interesting, that's the worst part of the game for me, which is why I don't 
>do it any more, I always found that after a few holes of carrying my bag my 
>right shoulder was aching and I couldn't swing properly, so my swing was 
>adversely affected, I don't really see how that makes the game fun.
>
>Toby.

Toby,

How about "walk and carry your bag unless it causes you enough pain
that the game is not fun.  In that case, get a cart."  ???

  :-)  

Bummer about the shoulder problem.  I had trouble with my left rotator
cuff a few years back -- likely from how I had my keyboard and mouse
set up at the office.  I changed that around and started doing some
weights and it has been fine ever since.  (knock on wood)
-- 
jvdp
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 07:52:13 -0400   author:   John van der Pflum

Re: Beginner   
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:09:25 +0200, Paul Schmitz-Josten
 wrote:

>
>If British golfers act as Germans do, I'd fear that you will get more
>advice on the course than you want to hear ;->

Wow, we must have a lot of German golfers over here in the States. :-)
-- 
jvdp
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 07:53:18 -0400   author:   John van der Pflum

Re: Beginner   
"The LHC"  wrote in message 
news:%iWJi.289127$p7.219374@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> John van der Pflum  wrote
>> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:53:07 +0100, "Bunford"
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>Anyone got any advice for a newbie?
>
>> Just a few things that make the game more fun for me:
>
>> Walk and carry your bag.
>
> Interesting, that's the worst part of the game for me, which is why I 
> don't
> do it any more, I always found that after a few holes of carrying my bag 
> my
> right shoulder was aching and I couldn't swing properly, so my swing was
> adversely affected, I don't really see how that makes the game fun.
>
> Toby.

I always carry my bag as I'm one of those strange people that needs 
exercise. :-)

My mates think I'm mad though and they all use trolleys.

The modern double strap bags are much less of a strain on your shoulders and 
are very much more comfortable than older bags.


Stephen
date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 18:58:00 +0100   author:   Stephen Stewart

Re: Beginner   
John van der Pflum in :

>>If British golfers act as Germans do, I'd fear that you will get more
>>advice on the course than you want to hear ;->
>
>Wow, we must have a lot of German golfers over here in the States. :-)

I'll forward this to Mrs. Merkel: German influence on the USA bigger than
expected!

Chuckling regards,

Paul
date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:51:56 +0200   author:   Paul Schmitz-Josten

Re: Beginner   
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:51:56 +0200, Paul Schmitz-Josten
 wrote:

>John van der Pflum in :
>
>>>If British golfers act as Germans do, I'd fear that you will get more
>>>advice on the course than you want to hear ;->
>>
>>Wow, we must have a lot of German golfers over here in the States. :-)
>
>I'll forward this to Mrs. Merkel: German influence on the USA bigger than
>expected!
>
>Chuckling regards,
>
>Paul

BTW -- Cincinnati, Ohio (where I live) has the second biggest
Oktoberfest in the world.  Munich is number 1 but we are catching up.
:-)  
-- 
jvdp
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:58:59 -0400   author:   John van der Pflum

Re: Beginner   
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:58:59 -0400, John van der Pflum
 wrote:

>BTW -- Cincinnati, Ohio (where I live) has the second biggest
>Oktoberfest in the world.  Munich is number 1 but we are catching up.

*Pigtails* as food? Pickled pigs feet? Sauerkraut balls? And Budweiser -- the
non-Czech kind... sigh.

Just so you know, none of those are found at the Oktoberfest (and very many
people in Munich wouldn't rate any of them fit for human consumption). Like
playing with wiffle balls and hockey sticks, and calling it golf (goes off and
cries). Have one of these instead:
<http://www.ochsenbraterei.de/en/galerie/id/002/> -- an entire ox on a spit,
roasted. That'll put meat on your bones...


Greetings from Munich,


Thomas Prufer
date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:13:07 +0200   author:   Thomas Prufer lid

Re: Beginner   
Bunford wrote:
> Anyone got any advice for a newbie?
> 


Lessons and practice, lessons and practice. Avoid driving ranges at all 
costs...except for 'learning' basics.

I have just been officiating all week at the Australian National Seniors 
Amateur Matchplay Championships, under the auspice of 'Golf 
Australia'........and a telling point in that event was the practice 
regime of the current and several times national Senior Amateur 
Champion. This being Matchplay, players were permitted to practice on 
the course prior to their rounds. While most other players were 
hitting/warming up the range, every day this player would play/practice 
at least fifteen holes, playing two or three balls on each hole, keeping 
a couple of holes ahead of the field until his tee time. Now that is 
dedication, and why he is the national champion. Unfortunately, on this 
occasion, he didn't make it past the 'semis'. All players in this 
Championship were in the top 64 of the national seniors OOM, a 
prerequisite for entry......and were competent single digit, if not 
scratch players. Most matches went the full course, the most common 
results being 3/2 or 2/1. Several went through to the 21st!

No doubt about it, practice rounds on a course is the best way to 
improve your golf, even if you are an expert!

cheers
david
date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 09:33:39 +1000   author:   david s-a

Re: Beginner   
John van der Pflum in :

(German influence on the USA)
>BTW -- Cincinnati, Ohio (where I live) has the second biggest
>Oktoberfest in the world.  Munich is number 1 but we are catching up.
>:-)  

As Thomas stated, it's not only size that matters ;->

Ciao,

Paul, been in Munich on Wednesday but stayed miles away from the Wies'n
date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 12:43:58 +0200   author:   Paul Schmitz-Josten

Re: Beginner   
On 26 Sep, 12:58, John van der Pflum 
wrote:

>
> BTW -- Cincinnati, Ohio (where I live) has the second biggest
> Oktoberfest in the world.  Munich is number 1 but we are catching up.


Bigger than Chatanooga?
date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 05:19:37 -0700   author:   johnty

Re: Beginner   
On Sat, 29 Sep 2007 05:19:37 -0700, johnty 
wrote:

>On 26 Sep, 12:58, John van der Pflum 
>wrote:
>
>>
>> BTW -- Cincinnati, Ohio (where I live) has the second biggest
>> Oktoberfest in the world.  Munich is number 1 but we are catching up.
>
>
>Bigger than Chatanooga?
>

Chatanooga is for losers.  :-)  
-- 
jvdp
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com
date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 20:36:28 -0400   author:   John van der Pflum

Re: Beginner   
On 30 Sep, 01:36, John van der Pflum 
wrote:

>
> Chattanooga is for losers.  :-)  
> --


Perfect!

I was contemplating a visit for a couple of days next week.  Look at
some rocks.  Look at some more rocks a bit higher up.


And ride on a choo-choo, of course.
date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 02:38:07 -0700   author:   johnty

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