I have heard several people discussing whether it is legal to mark
your ball on the green with a tee-peg. The objection being that as
that goes further into the ground than a normal ball marker it may be
construed as testing the firmness.

I can see nothing in the rules to oppose this practise but I can see
arguments re etiquette and there may be a tour policy in place against
this.

Obviously it could deflect another ball etc so it is not advisable
anyway and I am not advocating it.

Any thoughts on the matter?

John

Johnnybike  writes:

> I have heard several people discussing whether it is legal to mark
> your ball on the green with a tee-peg. The objection being that as
> that goes further into the ground than a normal ball marker it may be
> construed as testing the firmness.
> 
> I can see nothing in the rules to oppose this practise but I can see
> arguments re etiquette and there may be a tour policy in place against
> this.
> 
> Obviously it could deflect another ball etc so it is not advisable
> anyway and I am not advocating it.
> 
> Any thoughts on the matter?

My thoughts are that Decision 20-1/16 and the Note to Rule 20-1 
(regarding moving the object marking the position of the ball to
mitigate the possibility of the deflection) cover this quite well.

Once upon a time, pre-1996 IIRC, the PGA Tour mandated the use
of a coin for marking the position of the ball when lifted
from the putting green.

-- 
             Leon Chamae
             Directeur du Personnel
             Bureau de Change

On 1 Aug, 11:36, Leon Chamae  wrote:

>
> Once upon a time, pre-1996 IIRC, the PGA Tour mandated the use
> of a coin for marking the position of the ball when lifted
> from the putting green.
>
> --
>              Leon Chamae

Thanks for the swift comment Leon
The use of a coin certainly rules out the possibility of testing the
surface.

PS Why do you set your posts not be be archived and therefore removed
after 6 days.
at least that is what Google groups is telling me you have done

John

Johnnybike  writes:

> On 1 Aug, 11:36, Leon Chamae  wrote:
> 
> >
> > Once upon a time, pre-1996 IIRC, the PGA Tour mandated the use
> > of a coin for marking the position of the ball when lifted
> > from the putting green.
> >
> > --
> >              Leon Chamae
> 
> Thanks for the swift comment Leon
> The use of a coin certainly rules out the possibility of testing the
> surface.

The testing that is prohibited by Rule 16-1d would not occur when
a tee is pushed into the surface of the putting green.

-- 
             Leon Chamae
             Directeur du Personnel
             Bureau de Change

On 01 Aug 2007 08:47:07 -0400, Leon Chamae
 wrote:

>Johnnybike  writes:
>
>> On 1 Aug, 11:36, Leon Chamae  wrote:
>> 
>> >
>> > Once upon a time, pre-1996 IIRC, the PGA Tour mandated the use
>> > of a coin for marking the position of the ball when lifted
>> > from the putting green.
>> >
>> > --
>> >              Leon Chamae
>> 
>> Thanks for the swift comment Leon
>> The use of a coin certainly rules out the possibility of testing the
>> surface.
>
>The testing that is prohibited by Rule 16-1d would not occur when
>a tee is pushed into the surface of the putting green.

You didn't answer his second question.  
-- 
jvdp
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com

John van der Pflum  writes:

> On 01 Aug 2007 08:47:07 -0400, Leon Chamae
>  wrote:
> 
> >Johnnybike  writes:
> >
> >> On 1 Aug, 11:36, Leon Chamae  wrote:
> >> 
> >> >
> >> > Once upon a time, pre-1996 IIRC, the PGA Tour mandated the use
> >> > of a coin for marking the position of the ball when lifted
> >> > from the putting green.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> >              Leon Chamae
> >> 
> >> Thanks for the swift comment Leon
> >> The use of a coin certainly rules out the possibility of testing the
> >> surface.
> >
> >The testing that is prohibited by Rule 16-1d would not occur when
> >a tee is pushed into the surface of the putting green.
> 
> You didn't answer his second question.  

I know.

-- 
             Leon Chamae
             Directeur du Personnel
             Bureau de Change

On 01 Aug 2007 14:14:38 -0400, Leon Chamae
 wrote:

>John van der Pflum  writes:
>
>> On 01 Aug 2007 08:47:07 -0400, Leon Chamae
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> >Johnnybike  writes:
>> >
>> >> On 1 Aug, 11:36, Leon Chamae  wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> >
>> >> > Once upon a time, pre-1996 IIRC, the PGA Tour mandated the use
>> >> > of a coin for marking the position of the ball when lifted
>> >> > from the putting green.
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> >              Leon Chamae
>> >> 
>> >> Thanks for the swift comment Leon
>> >> The use of a coin certainly rules out the possibility of testing the
>> >> surface.
>> >
>> >The testing that is prohibited by Rule 16-1d would not occur when
>> >a tee is pushed into the surface of the putting green.
>> 
>> You didn't answer his second question.  
>
>I know.

At least we know your reading comprehension skills aren't suffering.  
-- 
jvdp
http://www.rsgcincinnati.com