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date: Fri, 25 May 2007 18:09:19 +0100,    group: uk.sport.golf        back       
Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
particularly well.
I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley wheels 
of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes later for 
the next four-ball.

A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
replies.

I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
job.
If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.

An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what are 
the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and pressure of 
air?

Thanks,

Malcolm
date: Fri, 25 May 2007 18:09:19 +0100   author:   M L Wadsworth

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
M L Wadsworth wrote:
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley wheels 
> of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes later for 
> the next four-ball.
> 
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
> 
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
> 
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what are 
> the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and pressure of 
> air?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Malcolm 
> 
> 


I would have thought 10 cfm (cubic feet per minute) at 120 psi would 
have been more than adequate.

david
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 09:08:14 +1000   author:   david s-a

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
M L Wadsworth wrote:
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley wheels 
> of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes later for 
> the next four-ball.
> 
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
> 
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
> 
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what are 
> the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and pressure of 
> air?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Malcolm 
> 
> 


I would have thought 10 cfm (cubic feet per minute) at 120 psi would 
have been more than adequate.

david
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 09:08:14 +1000   author:   david s-a

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
M L Wadsworth wrote:
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley wheels 
> of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes later for 
> the next four-ball.
> 
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
> 
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
> 
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what are 
> the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and pressure of 
> air?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Malcolm 
> 
> 


I would have thought 10 cfm (cubic feet per minute) at 120 psi would 
have been more than adequate.

david
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 09:08:14 +1000   author:   david s-a

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
On Sat, 26 May 2007 09:08:14 +1000, david s-a  wrote:

>I would have thought 10 cfm (cubic feet per minute) at 120 psi would 
>have been more than adequate.

Perhaps the air gun is unsuitable? Some have ports to spread the air and reduce
the chance of injury. Fine for blowing dust of cabinetwork (High volume, low
pressure), but for getting grass of softspikes, a pointy nozzle is probably
best. This is the type least beloved by Health & Safety, though...


Thomas Prufer
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 08:03:11 +0200   author:   Thomas Prufer lid

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
M L Wadsworth wrote:
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley wheels 
> of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes later for 
> the next four-ball.
> 
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
> 
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
> 
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what are 
> the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and pressure of 
> air?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Malcolm 
> 
> 


I would have thought 10 cfm (cubic feet per minute) at 120 psi would 
have been more than adequate.

david
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 09:08:14 +1000   author:   david s-a

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
On Sat, 26 May 2007 09:08:14 +1000, david s-a  wrote:

>I would have thought 10 cfm (cubic feet per minute) at 120 psi would 
>have been more than adequate.

Perhaps the air gun is unsuitable? Some have ports to spread the air and reduce
the chance of injury. Fine for blowing dust of cabinetwork (High volume, low
pressure), but for getting grass of softspikes, a pointy nozzle is probably
best. This is the type least beloved by Health & Safety, though...


Thomas Prufer
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 08:03:11 +0200   author:   Thomas Prufer lid

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
M L Wadsworth in :

>My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
>particularly well.
>I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
>being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley wheels 
>of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes later for 
>the next four-ball.
>
>A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
>replies.
>
>I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
>might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
>job.
>If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
>An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what are 
>the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and pressure of 
>air?

Not a definite answer but some thoughts and questions:

My club installed such a device, a compressor with a certain reservoir, and
from the remarks of the guy who installed it I learned that it is quite an
inexpensive one from a hobby supply store. Bauhaus, Obi, if you know what I
mean.

Q1: When the compressor is not working (i.e. it had enough time to fill the
reservoir up to full pressure before being used), is the cleaning function
good enough on the first shoe or until the compressor starts working again?

Q2: How long does the compressor work after a 4-ball has completely drained
it? (i.e. is there some spare time until the next flight arrives?)

Q1 clarifies if  the air pressure is high enough to provide the
functionality demanded (regardless of the capacity). If not, you might need
a new compressor anyway, unless you can turn up the pressure regulator.

If yes, you might get away with an additional reservoir of pressurized air,
the compressor output - mentioned by David - being only one part of the
game.

Q2 clarifies if the compressor's output is high enough to fill such an 
additional air reservoir in the desired time.

And beware of the nozzle geometry, as Thomas mentioned.

Ciao,

Paul

Ciao,

Paul
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 11:22:06 +0200   author:   Paul Schmitz-Josten

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
M L Wadsworth wrote:
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley wheels 
> of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes later for 
> the next four-ball.
> 
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
> 
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
> 
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what are 
> the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and pressure of 
> air?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Malcolm 
> 
> 


I would have thought 10 cfm (cubic feet per minute) at 120 psi would 
have been more than adequate.

david
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 09:08:14 +1000   author:   david s-a

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
On Sat, 26 May 2007 09:08:14 +1000, david s-a  wrote:

>I would have thought 10 cfm (cubic feet per minute) at 120 psi would 
>have been more than adequate.

Perhaps the air gun is unsuitable? Some have ports to spread the air and reduce
the chance of injury. Fine for blowing dust of cabinetwork (High volume, low
pressure), but for getting grass of softspikes, a pointy nozzle is probably
best. This is the type least beloved by Health & Safety, though...


Thomas Prufer
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 08:03:11 +0200   author:   Thomas Prufer lid

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
M L Wadsworth in :

>My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
>particularly well.
>I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
>being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley wheels 
>of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes later for 
>the next four-ball.
>
>A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
>replies.
>
>I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
>might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
>job.
>If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
>An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what are 
>the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and pressure of 
>air?

Not a definite answer but some thoughts and questions:

My club installed such a device, a compressor with a certain reservoir, and
from the remarks of the guy who installed it I learned that it is quite an
inexpensive one from a hobby supply store. Bauhaus, Obi, if you know what I
mean.

Q1: When the compressor is not working (i.e. it had enough time to fill the
reservoir up to full pressure before being used), is the cleaning function
good enough on the first shoe or until the compressor starts working again?

Q2: How long does the compressor work after a 4-ball has completely drained
it? (i.e. is there some spare time until the next flight arrives?)

Q1 clarifies if  the air pressure is high enough to provide the
functionality demanded (regardless of the capacity). If not, you might need
a new compressor anyway, unless you can turn up the pressure regulator.

If yes, you might get away with an additional reservoir of pressurized air,
the compressor output - mentioned by David - being only one part of the
game.

Q2 clarifies if the compressor's output is high enough to fill such an 
additional air reservoir in the desired time.

And beware of the nozzle geometry, as Thomas mentioned.

Ciao,

Paul

Ciao,

Paul
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 11:22:06 +0200   author:   Paul Schmitz-Josten

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
M L Wadsworth wrote:
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley wheels 
> of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes later for 
> the next four-ball.
> 
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
> 
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
> 
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what are 
> the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and pressure of 
> air?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Malcolm 
> 
> 


I would have thought 10 cfm (cubic feet per minute) at 120 psi would 
have been more than adequate.

david
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 09:08:14 +1000   author:   david s-a

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
On Sat, 26 May 2007 09:08:14 +1000, david s-a  wrote:

>I would have thought 10 cfm (cubic feet per minute) at 120 psi would 
>have been more than adequate.

Perhaps the air gun is unsuitable? Some have ports to spread the air and reduce
the chance of injury. Fine for blowing dust of cabinetwork (High volume, low
pressure), but for getting grass of softspikes, a pointy nozzle is probably
best. This is the type least beloved by Health & Safety, though...


Thomas Prufer
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 08:03:11 +0200   author:   Thomas Prufer lid

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
M L Wadsworth in :

>My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
>particularly well.
>I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
>being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley wheels 
>of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes later for 
>the next four-ball.
>
>A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
>replies.
>
>I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
>might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
>job.
>If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
>An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what are 
>the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and pressure of 
>air?

Not a definite answer but some thoughts and questions:

My club installed such a device, a compressor with a certain reservoir, and
from the remarks of the guy who installed it I learned that it is quite an
inexpensive one from a hobby supply store. Bauhaus, Obi, if you know what I
mean.

Q1: When the compressor is not working (i.e. it had enough time to fill the
reservoir up to full pressure before being used), is the cleaning function
good enough on the first shoe or until the compressor starts working again?

Q2: How long does the compressor work after a 4-ball has completely drained
it? (i.e. is there some spare time until the next flight arrives?)

Q1 clarifies if  the air pressure is high enough to provide the
functionality demanded (regardless of the capacity). If not, you might need
a new compressor anyway, unless you can turn up the pressure regulator.

If yes, you might get away with an additional reservoir of pressurized air,
the compressor output - mentioned by David - being only one part of the
game.

Q2 clarifies if the compressor's output is high enough to fill such an 
additional air reservoir in the desired time.

And beware of the nozzle geometry, as Thomas mentioned.

Ciao,

Paul

Ciao,

Paul
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 11:22:06 +0200   author:   Paul Schmitz-Josten

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
M L Wadsworth wrote:
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley wheels 
> of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes later for 
> the next four-ball.
> 
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
> 
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
> 
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what are 
> the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and pressure of 
> air?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Malcolm 
> 
> 


I would have thought 10 cfm (cubic feet per minute) at 120 psi would 
have been more than adequate.

david
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 09:08:14 +1000   author:   david s-a

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
On Sat, 26 May 2007 09:08:14 +1000, david s-a  wrote:

>I would have thought 10 cfm (cubic feet per minute) at 120 psi would 
>have been more than adequate.

Perhaps the air gun is unsuitable? Some have ports to spread the air and reduce
the chance of injury. Fine for blowing dust of cabinetwork (High volume, low
pressure), but for getting grass of softspikes, a pointy nozzle is probably
best. This is the type least beloved by Health & Safety, though...


Thomas Prufer
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 08:03:11 +0200   author:   Thomas Prufer lid

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
M L Wadsworth in :

>My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
>particularly well.
>I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
>being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley wheels 
>of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes later for 
>the next four-ball.
>
>A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
>replies.
>
>I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
>might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
>job.
>If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
>An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what are 
>the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and pressure of 
>air?

Not a definite answer but some thoughts and questions:

My club installed such a device, a compressor with a certain reservoir, and
from the remarks of the guy who installed it I learned that it is quite an
inexpensive one from a hobby supply store. Bauhaus, Obi, if you know what I
mean.

Q1: When the compressor is not working (i.e. it had enough time to fill the
reservoir up to full pressure before being used), is the cleaning function
good enough on the first shoe or until the compressor starts working again?

Q2: How long does the compressor work after a 4-ball has completely drained
it? (i.e. is there some spare time until the next flight arrives?)

Q1 clarifies if  the air pressure is high enough to provide the
functionality demanded (regardless of the capacity). If not, you might need
a new compressor anyway, unless you can turn up the pressure regulator.

If yes, you might get away with an additional reservoir of pressurized air,
the compressor output - mentioned by David - being only one part of the
game.

Q2 clarifies if the compressor's output is high enough to fill such an 
additional air reservoir in the desired time.

And beware of the nozzle geometry, as Thomas mentioned.

Ciao,

Paul

Ciao,

Paul
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 11:22:06 +0200   author:   Paul Schmitz-Josten

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
M L Wadsworth wrote:
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley wheels 
> of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes later for 
> the next four-ball.
> 
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
> 
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
> 
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what are 
> the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and pressure of 
> air?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Malcolm 
> 
> 


I would have thought 10 cfm (cubic feet per minute) at 120 psi would 
have been more than adequate.

david
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 09:08:14 +1000   author:   david s-a

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
On Sat, 26 May 2007 09:08:14 +1000, david s-a  wrote:

>I would have thought 10 cfm (cubic feet per minute) at 120 psi would 
>have been more than adequate.

Perhaps the air gun is unsuitable? Some have ports to spread the air and reduce
the chance of injury. Fine for blowing dust of cabinetwork (High volume, low
pressure), but for getting grass of softspikes, a pointy nozzle is probably
best. This is the type least beloved by Health & Safety, though...


Thomas Prufer
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 08:03:11 +0200   author:   Thomas Prufer lid

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
M L Wadsworth in :

>My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
>particularly well.
>I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
>being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley wheels 
>of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes later for 
>the next four-ball.
>
>A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
>replies.
>
>I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
>might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
>job.
>If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
>An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what are 
>the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and pressure of 
>air?

Not a definite answer but some thoughts and questions:

My club installed such a device, a compressor with a certain reservoir, and
from the remarks of the guy who installed it I learned that it is quite an
inexpensive one from a hobby supply store. Bauhaus, Obi, if you know what I
mean.

Q1: When the compressor is not working (i.e. it had enough time to fill the
reservoir up to full pressure before being used), is the cleaning function
good enough on the first shoe or until the compressor starts working again?

Q2: How long does the compressor work after a 4-ball has completely drained
it? (i.e. is there some spare time until the next flight arrives?)

Q1 clarifies if  the air pressure is high enough to provide the
functionality demanded (regardless of the capacity). If not, you might need
a new compressor anyway, unless you can turn up the pressure regulator.

If yes, you might get away with an additional reservoir of pressurized air,
the compressor output - mentioned by David - being only one part of the
game.

Q2 clarifies if the compressor's output is high enough to fill such an 
additional air reservoir in the desired time.

And beware of the nozzle geometry, as Thomas mentioned.

Ciao,

Paul

Ciao,

Paul
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 11:22:06 +0200   author:   Paul Schmitz-Josten

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
M L Wadsworth wrote:
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley wheels 
> of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes later for 
> the next four-ball.
> 
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
> 
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
> 
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what are 
> the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and pressure of 
> air?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Malcolm 
> 
> 


I would have thought 10 cfm (cubic feet per minute) at 120 psi would 
have been more than adequate.

david
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 09:08:14 +1000   author:   david s-a

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
On Sat, 26 May 2007 09:08:14 +1000, david s-a  wrote:

>I would have thought 10 cfm (cubic feet per minute) at 120 psi would 
>have been more than adequate.

Perhaps the air gun is unsuitable? Some have ports to spread the air and reduce
the chance of injury. Fine for blowing dust of cabinetwork (High volume, low
pressure), but for getting grass of softspikes, a pointy nozzle is probably
best. This is the type least beloved by Health & Safety, though...


Thomas Prufer
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 08:03:11 +0200   author:   Thomas Prufer lid

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
M L Wadsworth in :

>My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
>particularly well.
>I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
>being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley wheels 
>of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes later for 
>the next four-ball.
>
>A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
>replies.
>
>I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
>might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
>job.
>If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
>An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what are 
>the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and pressure of 
>air?

Not a definite answer but some thoughts and questions:

My club installed such a device, a compressor with a certain reservoir, and
from the remarks of the guy who installed it I learned that it is quite an
inexpensive one from a hobby supply store. Bauhaus, Obi, if you know what I
mean.

Q1: When the compressor is not working (i.e. it had enough time to fill the
reservoir up to full pressure before being used), is the cleaning function
good enough on the first shoe or until the compressor starts working again?

Q2: How long does the compressor work after a 4-ball has completely drained
it? (i.e. is there some spare time until the next flight arrives?)

Q1 clarifies if  the air pressure is high enough to provide the
functionality demanded (regardless of the capacity). If not, you might need
a new compressor anyway, unless you can turn up the pressure regulator.

If yes, you might get away with an additional reservoir of pressurized air,
the compressor output - mentioned by David - being only one part of the
game.

Q2 clarifies if the compressor's output is high enough to fill such an 
additional air reservoir in the desired time.

And beware of the nozzle geometry, as Thomas mentioned.

Ciao,

Paul

Ciao,

Paul
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 11:22:06 +0200   author:   Paul Schmitz-Josten

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
M L Wadsworth wrote:
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley wheels 
> of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes later for 
> the next four-ball.
> 
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
> 
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
> 
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what are 
> the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and pressure of 
> air?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Malcolm 
> 
> 


I would have thought 10 cfm (cubic feet per minute) at 120 psi would 
have been more than adequate.

david
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 09:08:14 +1000   author:   david s-a

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
On Sat, 26 May 2007 09:08:14 +1000, david s-a  wrote:

>I would have thought 10 cfm (cubic feet per minute) at 120 psi would 
>have been more than adequate.

Perhaps the air gun is unsuitable? Some have ports to spread the air and reduce
the chance of injury. Fine for blowing dust of cabinetwork (High volume, low
pressure), but for getting grass of softspikes, a pointy nozzle is probably
best. This is the type least beloved by Health & Safety, though...


Thomas Prufer
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 08:03:11 +0200   author:   Thomas Prufer lid

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
M L Wadsworth in :

>My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
>particularly well.
>I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
>being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley wheels 
>of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes later for 
>the next four-ball.
>
>A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
>replies.
>
>I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
>might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
>job.
>If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
>An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what are 
>the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and pressure of 
>air?

Not a definite answer but some thoughts and questions:

My club installed such a device, a compressor with a certain reservoir, and
from the remarks of the guy who installed it I learned that it is quite an
inexpensive one from a hobby supply store. Bauhaus, Obi, if you know what I
mean.

Q1: When the compressor is not working (i.e. it had enough time to fill the
reservoir up to full pressure before being used), is the cleaning function
good enough on the first shoe or until the compressor starts working again?

Q2: How long does the compressor work after a 4-ball has completely drained
it? (i.e. is there some spare time until the next flight arrives?)

Q1 clarifies if  the air pressure is high enough to provide the
functionality demanded (regardless of the capacity). If not, you might need
a new compressor anyway, unless you can turn up the pressure regulator.

If yes, you might get away with an additional reservoir of pressurized air,
the compressor output - mentioned by David - being only one part of the
game.

Q2 clarifies if the compressor's output is high enough to fill such an 
additional air reservoir in the desired time.

And beware of the nozzle geometry, as Thomas mentioned.

Ciao,

Paul

Ciao,

Paul
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 11:22:06 +0200   author:   Paul Schmitz-Josten

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
M L Wadsworth wrote:
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley wheels 
> of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes later for 
> the next four-ball.
> 
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
> 
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
> 
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what are 
> the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and pressure of 
> air?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Malcolm 
> 
> 


I would have thought 10 cfm (cubic feet per minute) at 120 psi would 
have been more than adequate.

david
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 09:08:14 +1000   author:   david s-a

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
On Sat, 26 May 2007 09:08:14 +1000, david s-a  wrote:

>I would have thought 10 cfm (cubic feet per minute) at 120 psi would 
>have been more than adequate.

Perhaps the air gun is unsuitable? Some have ports to spread the air and reduce
the chance of injury. Fine for blowing dust of cabinetwork (High volume, low
pressure), but for getting grass of softspikes, a pointy nozzle is probably
best. This is the type least beloved by Health & Safety, though...


Thomas Prufer
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 08:03:11 +0200   author:   Thomas Prufer lid

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
M L Wadsworth in :

>My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
>particularly well.
>I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
>being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley wheels 
>of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes later for 
>the next four-ball.
>
>A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
>replies.
>
>I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
>might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
>job.
>If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
>An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what are 
>the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and pressure of 
>air?

Not a definite answer but some thoughts and questions:

My club installed such a device, a compressor with a certain reservoir, and
from the remarks of the guy who installed it I learned that it is quite an
inexpensive one from a hobby supply store. Bauhaus, Obi, if you know what I
mean.

Q1: When the compressor is not working (i.e. it had enough time to fill the
reservoir up to full pressure before being used), is the cleaning function
good enough on the first shoe or until the compressor starts working again?

Q2: How long does the compressor work after a 4-ball has completely drained
it? (i.e. is there some spare time until the next flight arrives?)

Q1 clarifies if  the air pressure is high enough to provide the
functionality demanded (regardless of the capacity). If not, you might need
a new compressor anyway, unless you can turn up the pressure regulator.

If yes, you might get away with an additional reservoir of pressurized air,
the compressor output - mentioned by David - being only one part of the
game.

Q2 clarifies if the compressor's output is high enough to fill such an 
additional air reservoir in the desired time.

And beware of the nozzle geometry, as Thomas mentioned.

Ciao,

Paul

Ciao,

Paul
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 11:22:06 +0200   author:   Paul Schmitz-Josten

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
M L Wadsworth wrote:
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley wheels 
> of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes later for 
> the next four-ball.
> 
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
> 
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
> 
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what are 
> the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and pressure of 
> air?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Malcolm 
> 
> 


I would have thought 10 cfm (cubic feet per minute) at 120 psi would 
have been more than adequate.

david
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 09:08:14 +1000   author:   david s-a

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
On Sat, 26 May 2007 09:08:14 +1000, david s-a  wrote:

>I would have thought 10 cfm (cubic feet per minute) at 120 psi would 
>have been more than adequate.

Perhaps the air gun is unsuitable? Some have ports to spread the air and reduce
the chance of injury. Fine for blowing dust of cabinetwork (High volume, low
pressure), but for getting grass of softspikes, a pointy nozzle is probably
best. This is the type least beloved by Health & Safety, though...


Thomas Prufer
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 08:03:11 +0200   author:   Thomas Prufer lid

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
M L Wadsworth in :

>My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
>particularly well.
>I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
>being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley wheels 
>of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes later for 
>the next four-ball.
>
>A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
>replies.
>
>I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
>might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
>job.
>If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
>An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what are 
>the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and pressure of 
>air?

Not a definite answer but some thoughts and questions:

My club installed such a device, a compressor with a certain reservoir, and
from the remarks of the guy who installed it I learned that it is quite an
inexpensive one from a hobby supply store. Bauhaus, Obi, if you know what I
mean.

Q1: When the compressor is not working (i.e. it had enough time to fill the
reservoir up to full pressure before being used), is the cleaning function
good enough on the first shoe or until the compressor starts working again?

Q2: How long does the compressor work after a 4-ball has completely drained
it? (i.e. is there some spare time until the next flight arrives?)

Q1 clarifies if  the air pressure is high enough to provide the
functionality demanded (regardless of the capacity). If not, you might need
a new compressor anyway, unless you can turn up the pressure regulator.

If yes, you might get away with an additional reservoir of pressurized air,
the compressor output - mentioned by David - being only one part of the
game.

Q2 clarifies if the compressor's output is high enough to fill such an 
additional air reservoir in the desired time.

And beware of the nozzle geometry, as Thomas mentioned.

Ciao,

Paul

Ciao,

Paul
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 11:22:06 +0200   author:   Paul Schmitz-Josten

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
M L Wadsworth wrote:
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley wheels 
> of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes later for 
> the next four-ball.
> 
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
> 
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
> 
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what are 
> the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and pressure of 
> air?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Malcolm 
> 
> 


I would have thought 10 cfm (cubic feet per minute) at 120 psi would 
have been more than adequate.

david
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 09:08:14 +1000   author:   david s-a

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
On Sat, 26 May 2007 09:08:14 +1000, david s-a  wrote:

>I would have thought 10 cfm (cubic feet per minute) at 120 psi would 
>have been more than adequate.

Perhaps the air gun is unsuitable? Some have ports to spread the air and reduce
the chance of injury. Fine for blowing dust of cabinetwork (High volume, low
pressure), but for getting grass of softspikes, a pointy nozzle is probably
best. This is the type least beloved by Health & Safety, though...


Thomas Prufer
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 08:03:11 +0200   author:   Thomas Prufer lid

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
M L Wadsworth in :

>My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
>particularly well.
>I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
>being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley wheels 
>of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes later for 
>the next four-ball.
>
>A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
>replies.
>
>I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
>might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
>job.
>If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
>An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what are 
>the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and pressure of 
>air?

Not a definite answer but some thoughts and questions:

My club installed such a device, a compressor with a certain reservoir, and
from the remarks of the guy who installed it I learned that it is quite an
inexpensive one from a hobby supply store. Bauhaus, Obi, if you know what I
mean.

Q1: When the compressor is not working (i.e. it had enough time to fill the
reservoir up to full pressure before being used), is the cleaning function
good enough on the first shoe or until the compressor starts working again?

Q2: How long does the compressor work after a 4-ball has completely drained
it? (i.e. is there some spare time until the next flight arrives?)

Q1 clarifies if  the air pressure is high enough to provide the
functionality demanded (regardless of the capacity). If not, you might need
a new compressor anyway, unless you can turn up the pressure regulator.

If yes, you might get away with an additional reservoir of pressurized air,
the compressor output - mentioned by David - being only one part of the
game.

Q2 clarifies if the compressor's output is high enough to fill such an 
additional air reservoir in the desired time.

And beware of the nozzle geometry, as Thomas mentioned.

Ciao,

Paul

Ciao,

Paul
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 11:22:06 +0200   author:   Paul Schmitz-Josten

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
M L Wadsworth wrote:
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley wheels 
> of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes later for 
> the next four-ball.
> 
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
> 
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
> 
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what are 
> the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and pressure of 
> air?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Malcolm 
> 
> 


I would have thought 10 cfm (cubic feet per minute) at 120 psi would 
have been more than adequate.

david
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 09:08:14 +1000   author:   david s-a

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
On Sat, 26 May 2007 09:08:14 +1000, david s-a  wrote:

>I would have thought 10 cfm (cubic feet per minute) at 120 psi would 
>have been more than adequate.

Perhaps the air gun is unsuitable? Some have ports to spread the air and reduce
the chance of injury. Fine for blowing dust of cabinetwork (High volume, low
pressure), but for getting grass of softspikes, a pointy nozzle is probably
best. This is the type least beloved by Health & Safety, though...


Thomas Prufer
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 08:03:11 +0200   author:   Thomas Prufer lid

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
M L Wadsworth in :

>My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
>particularly well.
>I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
>being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley wheels 
>of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes later for 
>the next four-ball.
>
>A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
>replies.
>
>I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
>might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
>job.
>If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
>An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what are 
>the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and pressure of 
>air?

Not a definite answer but some thoughts and questions:

My club installed such a device, a compressor with a certain reservoir, and
from the remarks of the guy who installed it I learned that it is quite an
inexpensive one from a hobby supply store. Bauhaus, Obi, if you know what I
mean.

Q1: When the compressor is not working (i.e. it had enough time to fill the
reservoir up to full pressure before being used), is the cleaning function
good enough on the first shoe or until the compressor starts working again?

Q2: How long does the compressor work after a 4-ball has completely drained
it? (i.e. is there some spare time until the next flight arrives?)

Q1 clarifies if  the air pressure is high enough to provide the
functionality demanded (regardless of the capacity). If not, you might need
a new compressor anyway, unless you can turn up the pressure regulator.

If yes, you might get away with an additional reservoir of pressurized air,
the compressor output - mentioned by David - being only one part of the
game.

Q2 clarifies if the compressor's output is high enough to fill such an 
additional air reservoir in the desired time.

And beware of the nozzle geometry, as Thomas mentioned.

Ciao,

Paul

Ciao,

Paul
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 11:22:06 +0200   author:   Paul Schmitz-Josten

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
M L Wadsworth wrote:
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley wheels 
> of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes later for 
> the next four-ball.
> 
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
> 
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
> 
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what are 
> the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and pressure of 
> air?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Malcolm 
> 
> 


I would have thought 10 cfm (cubic feet per minute) at 120 psi would 
have been more than adequate.

david
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 09:08:14 +1000   author:   david s-a

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
On Sat, 26 May 2007 09:08:14 +1000, david s-a  wrote:

>I would have thought 10 cfm (cubic feet per minute) at 120 psi would 
>have been more than adequate.

Perhaps the air gun is unsuitable? Some have ports to spread the air and reduce
the chance of injury. Fine for blowing dust of cabinetwork (High volume, low
pressure), but for getting grass of softspikes, a pointy nozzle is probably
best. This is the type least beloved by Health & Safety, though...


Thomas Prufer
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 08:03:11 +0200   author:   Thomas Prufer lid

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
M L Wadsworth in :

>My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
>particularly well.
>I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
>being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley wheels 
>of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes later for 
>the next four-ball.
>
>A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
>replies.
>
>I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
>might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
>job.
>If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
>An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what are 
>the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and pressure of 
>air?

Not a definite answer but some thoughts and questions:

My club installed such a device, a compressor with a certain reservoir, and
from the remarks of the guy who installed it I learned that it is quite an
inexpensive one from a hobby supply store. Bauhaus, Obi, if you know what I
mean.

Q1: When the compressor is not working (i.e. it had enough time to fill the
reservoir up to full pressure before being used), is the cleaning function
good enough on the first shoe or until the compressor starts working again?

Q2: How long does the compressor work after a 4-ball has completely drained
it? (i.e. is there some spare time until the next flight arrives?)

Q1 clarifies if  the air pressure is high enough to provide the
functionality demanded (regardless of the capacity). If not, you might need
a new compressor anyway, unless you can turn up the pressure regulator.

If yes, you might get away with an additional reservoir of pressurized air,
the compressor output - mentioned by David - being only one part of the
game.

Q2 clarifies if the compressor's output is high enough to fill such an 
additional air reservoir in the desired time.

And beware of the nozzle geometry, as Thomas mentioned.

Ciao,

Paul

Ciao,

Paul
date: Sat, 26 May 2007 11:22:06 +0200   author:   Paul Schmitz-Josten

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
"M L Wadsworth"  wrote in 
message news:yZCdnVmOXqjIhcrbRVnysAA@bt.com...
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley 
> wheels of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes 
> later for the next four-ball.
>
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
>
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what 
> are the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and 
> pressure of air?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Malcolm


Thank you for your helpful responses.  I have passed them all onto my 
engineering friend who is looking into  them for the club.

Malcolm
date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:32 +0100   author:   M L Wadsworth

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
"M L Wadsworth"  wrote in 
message news:yZCdnVmOXqjIhcrbRVnysAA@bt.com...
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley 
> wheels of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes 
> later for the next four-ball.
>
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
>
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what 
> are the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and 
> pressure of air?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Malcolm


Thank you for your helpful responses.  I have passed them all onto my 
engineering friend who is looking into  them for the club.

Malcolm
date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:32 +0100   author:   M L Wadsworth

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
"M L Wadsworth"  wrote in 
message news:yZCdnVmOXqjIhcrbRVnysAA@bt.com...
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley 
> wheels of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes 
> later for the next four-ball.
>
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
>
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what 
> are the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and 
> pressure of air?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Malcolm


Thank you for your helpful responses.  I have passed them all onto my 
engineering friend who is looking into  them for the club.

Malcolm
date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:32 +0100   author:   M L Wadsworth

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
"M L Wadsworth"  wrote in 
message news:yZCdnVmOXqjIhcrbRVnysAA@bt.com...
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley 
> wheels of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes 
> later for the next four-ball.
>
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
>
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what 
> are the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and 
> pressure of air?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Malcolm


Thank you for your helpful responses.  I have passed them all onto my 
engineering friend who is looking into  them for the club.

Malcolm
date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:32 +0100   author:   M L Wadsworth

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
"M L Wadsworth"  wrote in 
message news:yZCdnVmOXqjIhcrbRVnysAA@bt.com...
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley 
> wheels of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes 
> later for the next four-ball.
>
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
>
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what 
> are the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and 
> pressure of air?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Malcolm


Thank you for your helpful responses.  I have passed them all onto my 
engineering friend who is looking into  them for the club.

Malcolm
date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:32 +0100   author:   M L Wadsworth

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
"M L Wadsworth"  wrote in 
message news:yZCdnVmOXqjIhcrbRVnysAA@bt.com...
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley 
> wheels of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes 
> later for the next four-ball.
>
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
>
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what 
> are the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and 
> pressure of air?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Malcolm


Thank you for your helpful responses.  I have passed them all onto my 
engineering friend who is looking into  them for the club.

Malcolm
date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:32 +0100   author:   M L Wadsworth

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
"M L Wadsworth"  wrote in 
message news:yZCdnVmOXqjIhcrbRVnysAA@bt.com...
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley 
> wheels of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes 
> later for the next four-ball.
>
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
>
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what 
> are the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and 
> pressure of air?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Malcolm


Thank you for your helpful responses.  I have passed them all onto my 
engineering friend who is looking into  them for the club.

Malcolm
date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:32 +0100   author:   M L Wadsworth

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
"M L Wadsworth"  wrote in 
message news:yZCdnVmOXqjIhcrbRVnysAA@bt.com...
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley 
> wheels of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes 
> later for the next four-ball.
>
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
>
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what 
> are the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and 
> pressure of air?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Malcolm


Thank you for your helpful responses.  I have passed them all onto my 
engineering friend who is looking into  them for the club.

Malcolm
date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:32 +0100   author:   M L Wadsworth

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
"M L Wadsworth"  wrote in 
message news:yZCdnVmOXqjIhcrbRVnysAA@bt.com...
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley 
> wheels of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes 
> later for the next four-ball.
>
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
>
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what 
> are the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and 
> pressure of air?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Malcolm


Thank you for your helpful responses.  I have passed them all onto my 
engineering friend who is looking into  them for the club.

Malcolm
date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:32 +0100   author:   M L Wadsworth

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
"M L Wadsworth"  wrote in 
message news:yZCdnVmOXqjIhcrbRVnysAA@bt.com...
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley 
> wheels of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes 
> later for the next four-ball.
>
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
>
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what 
> are the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and 
> pressure of air?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Malcolm


Thank you for your helpful responses.  I have passed them all onto my 
engineering friend who is looking into  them for the club.

Malcolm
date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:32 +0100   author:   M L Wadsworth

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
"M L Wadsworth"  wrote in 
message news:yZCdnVmOXqjIhcrbRVnysAA@bt.com...
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley 
> wheels of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes 
> later for the next four-ball.
>
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
>
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what 
> are the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and 
> pressure of air?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Malcolm


Thank you for your helpful responses.  I have passed them all onto my 
engineering friend who is looking into  them for the club.

Malcolm
date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:32 +0100   author:   M L Wadsworth

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
"M L Wadsworth"  wrote in 
message news:yZCdnVmOXqjIhcrbRVnysAA@bt.com...
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley 
> wheels of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes 
> later for the next four-ball.
>
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
>
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what 
> are the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and 
> pressure of air?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Malcolm


Thank you for your helpful responses.  I have passed them all onto my 
engineering friend who is looking into  them for the club.

Malcolm
date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:32 +0100   author:   M L Wadsworth

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
"M L Wadsworth"  wrote in 
message news:yZCdnVmOXqjIhcrbRVnysAA@bt.com...
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley 
> wheels of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes 
> later for the next four-ball.
>
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
>
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what 
> are the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and 
> pressure of air?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Malcolm


Thank you for your helpful responses.  I have passed them all onto my 
engineering friend who is looking into  them for the club.

Malcolm
date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:32 +0100   author:   M L Wadsworth

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
"M L Wadsworth"  wrote in 
message news:yZCdnVmOXqjIhcrbRVnysAA@bt.com...
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley 
> wheels of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes 
> later for the next four-ball.
>
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
>
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what 
> are the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and 
> pressure of air?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Malcolm


Thank you for your helpful responses.  I have passed them all onto my 
engineering friend who is looking into  them for the club.

Malcolm
date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:32 +0100   author:   M L Wadsworth

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
"M L Wadsworth"  wrote in 
message news:yZCdnVmOXqjIhcrbRVnysAA@bt.com...
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley 
> wheels of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes 
> later for the next four-ball.
>
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
>
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what 
> are the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and 
> pressure of air?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Malcolm


Thank you for your helpful responses.  I have passed them all onto my 
engineering friend who is looking into  them for the club.

Malcolm
date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:32 +0100   author:   M L Wadsworth

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
"M L Wadsworth"  wrote in 
message news:yZCdnVmOXqjIhcrbRVnysAA@bt.com...
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley 
> wheels of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes 
> later for the next four-ball.
>
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
>
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what 
> are the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and 
> pressure of air?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Malcolm


Thank you for your helpful responses.  I have passed them all onto my 
engineering friend who is looking into  them for the club.

Malcolm
date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:32 +0100   author:   M L Wadsworth

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
"M L Wadsworth"  wrote in 
message news:yZCdnVmOXqjIhcrbRVnysAA@bt.com...
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley 
> wheels of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes 
> later for the next four-ball.
>
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
>
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what 
> are the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and 
> pressure of air?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Malcolm


Thank you for your helpful responses.  I have passed them all onto my 
engineering friend who is looking into  them for the club.

Malcolm
date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:32 +0100   author:   M L Wadsworth

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
"M L Wadsworth"  wrote in 
message news:yZCdnVmOXqjIhcrbRVnysAA@bt.com...
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley 
> wheels of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes 
> later for the next four-ball.
>
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
>
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what 
> are the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and 
> pressure of air?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Malcolm


Thank you for your helpful responses.  I have passed them all onto my 
engineering friend who is looking into  them for the club.

Malcolm
date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:32 +0100   author:   M L Wadsworth

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
"M L Wadsworth"  wrote in 
message news:yZCdnVmOXqjIhcrbRVnysAA@bt.com...
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley 
> wheels of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes 
> later for the next four-ball.
>
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
>
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what 
> are the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and 
> pressure of air?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Malcolm


Thank you for your helpful responses.  I have passed them all onto my 
engineering friend who is looking into  them for the club.

Malcolm
date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:32 +0100   author:   M L Wadsworth

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
"M L Wadsworth"  wrote in 
message news:yZCdnVmOXqjIhcrbRVnysAA@bt.com...
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley 
> wheels of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes 
> later for the next four-ball.
>
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
>
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what 
> are the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and 
> pressure of air?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Malcolm


Thank you for your helpful responses.  I have passed them all onto my 
engineering friend who is looking into  them for the club.

Malcolm
date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:32 +0100   author:   M L Wadsworth

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
"M L Wadsworth"  wrote in 
message news:yZCdnVmOXqjIhcrbRVnysAA@bt.com...
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley 
> wheels of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes 
> later for the next four-ball.
>
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
>
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what 
> are the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and 
> pressure of air?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Malcolm


Thank you for your helpful responses.  I have passed them all onto my 
engineering friend who is looking into  them for the club.

Malcolm
date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:32 +0100   author:   M L Wadsworth

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
"M L Wadsworth"  wrote in 
message news:yZCdnVmOXqjIhcrbRVnysAA@bt.com...
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley 
> wheels of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes 
> later for the next four-ball.
>
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
>
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what 
> are the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and 
> pressure of air?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Malcolm


Thank you for your helpful responses.  I have passed them all onto my 
engineering friend who is looking into  them for the club.

Malcolm
date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:32 +0100   author:   M L Wadsworth

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
"M L Wadsworth"  wrote in 
message news:yZCdnVmOXqjIhcrbRVnysAA@bt.com...
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley 
> wheels of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes 
> later for the next four-ball.
>
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
>
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what 
> are the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and 
> pressure of air?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Malcolm


Thank you for your helpful responses.  I have passed them all onto my 
engineering friend who is looking into  them for the club.

Malcolm
date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:32 +0100   author:   M L Wadsworth

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
"M L Wadsworth"  wrote in 
message news:yZCdnVmOXqjIhcrbRVnysAA@bt.com...
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley 
> wheels of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes 
> later for the next four-ball.
>
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
>
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what 
> are the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and 
> pressure of air?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Malcolm


Thank you for your helpful responses.  I have passed them all onto my 
engineering friend who is looking into  them for the club.

Malcolm
date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:32 +0100   author:   M L Wadsworth

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners   
"M L Wadsworth"  wrote in 
message news:yZCdnVmOXqjIhcrbRVnysAA@bt.com...
> My club installed one about three years ago which has never worked 
> particularly well.
> I am no engineer, but I guess the capacity was just not up to two air guns 
> being used to clean the four pairs of shoes and four sets of trolley 
> wheels of a four-ball and be ready to repeat the operation seven minutes 
> later for the next four-ball.
>
> A question by someone else on EGU Community has not solicited any useful 
> replies.
>
> I should like to know the make or supplier of any such cleaner which you 
> might have at your club which you have found to be effective and up to the 
> job.
> If you can give any contact details, that would be a bonus.
>
> An alternative question which some of you may be able to answer, is what 
> are the techincal requirements to produce the required quantity and 
> pressure of air?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Malcolm


Thank you for your helpful responses.  I have passed them all onto my 
engineering friend who is looking into  them for the club.

Malcolm
date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:44:32 +0100   author:   M L Wadsworth

Re: Compressed Air Shoe Cleaners