What a performance, can we believe we can finish in the top six and get into 
Europe ?  WELL DONE THE LADS !!!

Peter

Just got back. Amazing performance. Why can't we play that every game? We 
mullered them, played them off the park.
Must be game of the day on Football First tonight on Sky.


"Peter"  wrote in message 
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> What a performance, can we believe we can finish in the top six and get 
> into Europe ?  WELL DONE THE LADS !!!
>
> Peter
>

Billericay Hammer wrote:
> Just got back. Amazing performance. Why can't we play that every game? We 
> mullered them, played them off the park.
> Must be game of the day on Football First tonight on Sky.


I have to listen to the games through the internet and there was one 
noticeable difference today. The crowd. The atmosphere was fantastic and 
just oozed out of my speakers. I'm sure that makes a difference as to 
how they play.

Well done the Hammers but, also, well played the crowd (take a bow 
Billericay and others).

-- 
Howard Neil

"Billericay Hammer"  wrote in message 
news:fl63qd$dqd$1@aioe.org...
> Just got back. Amazing performance. Why can't we play that every game? We 
> mullered them, played them off the park.
> Must be game of the day on Football First tonight on Sky.

No,  it's the big club from Norf London :-)

"Garry Douglas"  wrote in message 
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> "Billericay Hammer"  wrote in message 
> news:fl63qd$dqd$1@aioe.org...
>> Just got back. Amazing performance. Why can't we play that every game? We 
>> mullered them, played them off the park.
>> Must be game of the day on Football First tonight on Sky.
>
> No,  it's the big club from Norf London :-)
>

You must mean Arsenal!

Billericay Hammer wrote:
> "Garry Douglas"  wrote in message 
> news:13nd5dlkohvs4c0@corp.supernews.com...
>> "Billericay Hammer"  wrote in message 
>> news:fl63qd$dqd$1@aioe.org...
>>> Just got back. Amazing performance. Why can't we play that every game? We 
>>> mullered them, played them off the park.
>>> Must be game of the day on Football First tonight on Sky.
>> No,  it's the big club from Norf London :-)
>>
> 
> You must mean Arsenal! 
> 
> 

Watford?

-- 
Howard Neil

Could be Barnet !!

Peter

"Howard Neil"  wrote in message 
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> Billericay Hammer wrote:
>> "Garry Douglas"  wrote in message 
>> news:13nd5dlkohvs4c0@corp.supernews.com...
>>> "Billericay Hammer"  wrote in message 
>>> news:fl63qd$dqd$1@aioe.org...
>>>> Just got back. Amazing performance. Why can't we play that every game? 
>>>> We mullered them, played them off the park.
>>>> Must be game of the day on Football First tonight on Sky.
>>> No,  it's the big club from Norf London :-)
>>>
>>
>> You must mean Arsenal!
>
> Watford?
>
> -- 
> Howard Neil

"Billericay Hammer"  wrote in message 
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> We  mullered them, played them off the park.


LOL. Just completely ignore the fact that we played like schoolboys, won't 
ya?

Had we been on our game, we'd have made light work of your lot. We're just 
guilty of going into games against certain teams with the wrong attitude - 
believing it is won without having to break a sweat. That is why we can 
"muller" (to borrow your phrase) the other top three clubs, and falter 
against Bolton, Man City or your lot. A very bad attitude indeed, and one we 
shall have to rectify should we want to beat Arsenal to the title.

However, *despite* our playing like kids in the park, I suppose you played 
OK. Nothing too special, though. Sorry to bring you back down to earth, 
like. :)
-- 
Slitheen.
Manchester United - Championees.

Say what you like, it's still 3 out of 3 for us and that must just stick in 
your throat - tough!

-- 
John the West Ham fan
housetrained@hotmail.com
<><

"Slitheen"  wrote in message 
news:fl7d34$40b$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> "Billericay Hammer"  wrote in message 
> news:fl63qd$dqd$1@aioe.org...
>> We  mullered them, played them off the park.
>
>
> LOL. Just completely ignore the fact that we played like schoolboys, won't 
> ya?
>
> Had we been on our game, we'd have made light work of your lot. We're just 
> guilty of going into games against certain teams with the wrong attitude - 
> believing it is won without having to break a sweat. That is why we can 
> "muller" (to borrow your phrase) the other top three clubs, and falter 
> against Bolton, Man City or your lot. A very bad attitude indeed, and one 
> we shall have to rectify should we want to beat Arsenal to the title.
>
> However, *despite* our playing like kids in the park, I suppose you played 
> OK. Nothing too special, though. Sorry to bring you back down to earth, 
> like. :)
> -- 
> Slitheen.
> Manchester United - Championees.
>
>
>
>

P.S. From your (Manure) website:
Sir Alex Ferguson was magnanimous in defeat as United slipped to a dramatic 
2-1 reverse at West Ham, conceding that the Hammers had been clearly the 
better side.

-- 
John the West Ham fan
housetrained@hotmail.com
<><

"housetrained"  wrote in message 
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> Say what you like, it's still 3 out of 3 for us and that must just stick 
> in your throat - tough!
>
> -- 
> John the West Ham fan
> housetrained@hotmail.com
> <><
>
> "Slitheen"  wrote in message 
> news:fl7d34$40b$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> "Billericay Hammer"  wrote in message 
>> news:fl63qd$dqd$1@aioe.org...
>>> We  mullered them, played them off the park.
>>
>>
>> LOL. Just completely ignore the fact that we played like schoolboys, 
>> won't ya?
>>
>> Had we been on our game, we'd have made light work of your lot. We're 
>> just guilty of going into games against certain teams with the wrong 
>> attitude - believing it is won without having to break a sweat. That is 
>> why we can "muller" (to borrow your phrase) the other top three clubs, 
>> and falter against Bolton, Man City or your lot. A very bad attitude 
>> indeed, and one we shall have to rectify should we want to beat Arsenal 
>> to the title.
>>
>> However, *despite* our playing like kids in the park, I suppose you 
>> played OK. Nothing too special, though. Sorry to bring you back down to 
>> earth, like. :)
>> -- 
>> Slitheen.
>> Manchester United - Championees.
>>
>>
>>
>>

Howard Neil wrote in


> Billericay Hammer wrote:
>> Just got back. Amazing performance. Why can't we play that every
>> game? We mullered them, played them off the park.
>> Must be game of the day on Football First tonight on Sky.
> 
> 
> I have to listen to the games through the internet 

Have you tried peer 2 peer?

-- 
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If you feel that any of the above is incorrect,
inappropriate or offensive in any way,
please ignore it and accept my apologies.

PeterMcC wrote:
> Howard Neil wrote in
> 
> 
>> Billericay Hammer wrote:
>>> Just got back. Amazing performance. Why can't we play that every
>>> game? We mullered them, played them off the park.
>>> Must be game of the day on Football First tonight on Sky.
>>
>> I have to listen to the games through the internet 
> 
> Have you tried peer 2 peer?
> 

No. What would be the benefit over the live match from the club's 
website, please?

-- 
Howard Neil

housetrained wrote:
> P.S. From your (Manure) website:
> Sir Alex Ferguson was magnanimous in defeat as United slipped to a 
> dramatic 2-1 reverse at West Ham, conceding that the Hammers had been 
> clearly the better side.
> 

Sir Alex also paid compliment to West Ham last night on Sky, stating 
that West Ham were the better side. No excuses for his own side; just 
that West Ham were better. I was impressed with his humility and 
honesty. What a shame that some of their "supporters" cannot follow his 
example. Perhaps they don't know as much about football as Sir Alex does.

-- 
Howard Neil

Howard Neil wrote in


> PeterMcC wrote:
>> Howard Neil wrote in
>> 
>> 
>>> Billericay Hammer wrote:
>>>> Just got back. Amazing performance. Why can't we play that every
>>>> game? We mullered them, played them off the park.
>>>> Must be game of the day on Football First tonight on Sky.
>>> 
>>> I have to listen to the games through the internet
>> 
>> Have you tried peer 2 peer?
>> 
> 
> No. What would be the benefit over the live match from the club's
> website, please?

Moving pictures?

-- 
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If you feel that any of the above is incorrect,
inappropriate or offensive in any way,
please ignore it and accept my apologies.

PeterMcC wrote:
> Howard Neil wrote in
> 
> 
>> PeterMcC wrote:
>>> Howard Neil wrote in
>>> 
>>>
>>>> Billericay Hammer wrote:
>>>>> Just got back. Amazing performance. Why can't we play that every
>>>>> game? We mullered them, played them off the park.
>>>>> Must be game of the day on Football First tonight on Sky.
>>>> I have to listen to the games through the internet
>>> Have you tried peer 2 peer?
>>>
>> No. What would be the benefit over the live match from the club's
>> website, please?
> 
> Moving pictures?
> 

Corrr. My mum told be about them. :-)

Seriously, I will investigate further. I've heard snippets about matches 
being watched live but know little about it. Is there anything to avoid?

-- 
Howard Neil

"Slitheen"  wrote in message 
news:fl7d34$40b$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> "Billericay Hammer"  wrote in message 
> news:fl63qd$dqd$1@aioe.org...
>> We  mullered them, played them off the park.
>
>
> LOL. Just completely ignore the fact that we played like schoolboys, won't 
> ya?
>
> Had we been on our game, we'd have made light work of your lot. We're just 
> guilty of going into games against certain teams with the wrong attitude - 
> believing it is won without having to break a sweat. That is why we can 
> "muller" (to borrow your phrase) the other top three clubs, and falter 
> against Bolton, Man City or your lot. A very bad attitude indeed, and one 
> we shall have to rectify should we want to beat Arsenal to the title.
>
> However, *despite* our playing like kids in the park, I suppose you played 
> OK. Nothing too special, though. Sorry to bring you back down to earth, 
> like. :)
> -- 
> Slitheen.
> Manchester United - Championees.


You obviously were not there Slitheen. The only ones being bought back down 
to earth are Manure. You did not play like kids, we played you off the park 
and we did not let you play. Even Fergie had to admit this (in not so many 
words as he does). We were first to every loose ball, tackled hard (which 
your nancy boy referee protected players did not like), understood the task 
at hand and out passed you. Our one touch passing at times left your players 
looking lost. Saha backed down every time Upson went near him, Fletcher was 
second to every ball when going forward so he sat back, Hargreaves could not 
compete with Noble, Mullins or Parker, Cole was stronger than all your 
defenders put together, Solano out thought *every* Manure player and Tevez 
was far too emotional about coming home and the reception he got that he had 
to be subbed. Giggs and Ronaldo cannot do it on their own and the pressure 
took it's toll on both of them. We hit your players confidence and it 
showed.
Saying that, my money is still on Manure to win the title.
Bring on Arsenal.

Howard Neil wrote:
> Seriously, I will investigate further. I've heard snippets about matches
> being watched live but know little about it. Is there anything to avoid?

Anything involving Spurs!

Stephen

Howard Neil wrote:
> Seriously, I will investigate further. I've heard snippets about matches
> being watched live but know little about it. Is there anything to avoid?

Anything involving Spurs!

Stephen

Speaking of arrogance:

Slitheen wrote:
> However, *despite* our playing like kids in the park, I suppose you played
> OK. Nothing too special, though. Sorry to bring you back down to earth, like.

Whatever helps you sleep at night mate!

Stephen

Howard Neil wrote in


> PeterMcC wrote:
>> Howard Neil wrote in
>> 
>>
>>> PeterMcC wrote:
>>>> Howard Neil wrote in
>>>> 
>>>> Have you tried peer 2 peer?
>>>>
>>> No. What would be the benefit over the live match from the club's
>>> website, please?
>>
>> Moving pictures?
>>
>
> Corrr. My mum told be about them. :-)
>
> Seriously, I will investigate further. I've heard snippets about
> matches being watched live but know little about it.

> Is there anything to avoid?

Matches where we throw it away at the last moment?

Have a look at:
http://myp2p.eu/index.php?part=sports

I'd suggest the Sopcast software as being stable and easy to use.

It does require that you allow your computer to act as a server - you're
becoming a point in the distribution system: get it, view it, pass it on  -
that's a bit simplistic but you get the idea.

I don't know anyone who's had any security problems - and there'd be plenty
of people talking about it in the forums if there were issues.

There's a loss of picture quality but a stream of 300+bps is more than
watchable.

Streams can be a bit unstable or not appear when they're supposed to but
you'll generally find one that works well. [EN] next to a stream tells you
the commentary is in English.

If you want to get the Sopcast software and install it, I'll pop in here ten
minutes before the Tuesday match against Arsenal and let you know which
channel is working best for me.

Have a good New Year.

-- 
PeterMcC
If you feel that any of the above is incorrect,
inappropriate or offensive in any way,
please ignore it and accept my apologies.

"Billericay Hammer"  wrote in message 
news:fl85mi$7c4$1@aioe.org...
>
> "Slitheen"  wrote in message 
> news:fl7d34$40b$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> "Billericay Hammer"  wrote in message 
>> news:fl63qd$dqd$1@aioe.org...
>>> We  mullered them, played them off the park.
>>
>>
>> LOL. Just completely ignore the fact that we played like schoolboys, 
>> won't ya?
>>
>> Had we been on our game, we'd have made light work of your lot. We're 
>> just guilty of going into games against certain teams with the wrong 
>> attitude - believing it is won without having to break a sweat. That is 
>> why we can "muller" (to borrow your phrase) the other top three clubs, 
>> and falter against Bolton, Man City or your lot. A very bad attitude 
>> indeed, and one we shall have to rectify should we want to beat Arsenal 
>> to the title.
>>
>> However, *despite* our playing like kids in the park, I suppose you 
>> played OK. Nothing too special, though. Sorry to bring you back down to 
>> earth, like. :)
>> -- 
>> Slitheen.
>> Manchester United - Championees.
>
>
> You obviously were not there Slitheen. The only ones being bought back 
> down to earth are Manure. You did not play like kids, we played you off 
> the park and we did not let you play. Even Fergie had to admit this (in 
> not so many words as he does). We were first to every loose ball, tackled 
> hard (which your nancy boy referee protected players did not like), 
> understood the task at hand and out passed you. Our one touch passing at 
> times left your players looking lost. Saha backed down every time Upson 
> went near him, Fletcher was second to every ball when going forward so he 
> sat back, Hargreaves could not compete with Noble, Mullins or Parker, Cole 
> was stronger than all your defenders put together, Solano out thought 
> *every* Manure player and Tevez was far too emotional about coming home 
> and the reception he got that he had to be subbed. Giggs and Ronaldo 
> cannot do it on their own and the pressure took it's toll on both of them. 
> We hit your players confidence and it showed.
> Saying that, my money is still on Manure to win the title.
> Bring on Arsenal.
>

Ignore Slitheen, who cares what he thinks? Perhaps he's right, and Man U 
were o0verconfident and didn't consider there was any possibility of losing 
to West Ham, I mean, how long is it since that last happened? Oh yes, last 
season, twice, wasn't it?

I expect it'll be MUCH tougher against Arsenal than it was against Man U, 
even though we beat them twice last season, too. Arsenal have a clever 
manager, a very slick and resilient midfield, and a potent in-form striker 
leading the line ...

PeterMcC wrote:

> If you want to get the Sopcast software and install it, I'll pop in here ten
> minutes before the Tuesday match against Arsenal and let you know which
> channel is working best for me.
> 
> Have a good New Year.
> 

Thanks. I have bookmarked the link. I don't know if I will have time to 
install it before tomorrow as I have a lot to do (I have a smallholding 
and the animals need seeing to) but I will definitely try it.

Have a happy New Year.

-- 
Howard Neil

Howard Neil wrote in


> PeterMcC wrote:
>
>> If you want to get the Sopcast software and install it, I'll pop in
>> here ten minutes before the Tuesday match against Arsenal and let
>> you know which channel is working best for me.
>>
>> Have a good New Year.
>>
>
> Thanks. I have bookmarked the link. I don't know if I will have time
> to install it before tomorrow as I have a lot to do (I have a
> smallholding and the animals need seeing to) but I will definitely
> try it.
>
> Have a happy New Year.

...and a Happy New Year to one and all.

The top link on:
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=4123&part=sports
is the Sopcast channel 4001 (hover over the "Play" link and the channel
number shows in the status bar at the bottom of the browser).

It's currently showing the Fulham/Chelsea match and the quality (of the
image!) is very good.

Don't be put off by the foreign (South Korean?) studio chat, the commentary
is straight from Sky. I have to say I'm amazed that South Koreans watch
quite so much football. The other week they had Hull v Sheffield United
(didn't they used to be in the premiership?). I find it hard to imagine a
conversation in which one South Korean says to another, "No, I'm not coming
out with the lads tonight. I'm staying in to watch Hull versus Sheffield
United live on TV."

BTW, I generally choose to watch on my own media player software rather than
the Sopcast software so, once the channel's playing, click the link at the
bottom right of the Sopcast screen and it will re-open the stream in your
media player of choice.

Enjoy.

-- 
PeterMcC
If you feel that any of the above is incorrect,
inappropriate or offensive in any way,
please ignore it and accept my apologies.

PeterMcC wrote in
<fldee6$17o2$1@energise.enta.net>

<snip>

>
> ...and a Happy New Year to one and all.
>
> The top link on:
> http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=4123&part=sports
> is the Sopcast channel 4001 (hover over the "Play" link and the
> channel number shows in the status bar at the bottom of the browser).
>
> It's currently showing the Fulham/Chelsea match and the quality (of
> the image!) is very good.

Seem to be having problems on that channel (4001) - the bottom one on the
above link, marked "For MyP2P #1", is a good solid stream on Sopcast Channel
30256.

-- 
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If you feel that any of the above is incorrect,
inappropriate or offensive in any way,
please ignore it and accept my apologies.

PeterMcC wrote:
> PeterMcC wrote in
> <fldee6$17o2$1@energise.enta.net>
> 
> <snip>
> 
>> ...and a Happy New Year to one and all.
>>
>> The top link on:
>> http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=4123&part=sports
>> is the Sopcast channel 4001 (hover over the "Play" link and the
>> channel number shows in the status bar at the bottom of the browser).
>>
>> It's currently showing the Fulham/Chelsea match and the quality (of
>> the image!) is very good.
> 
> Seem to be having problems on that channel (4001) - the bottom one on the
> above link, marked "For MyP2P #1", is a good solid stream on Sopcast Channel
> 30256.
> 

Peter,

Thank you very much for your help, which was clear and precise. I 
finally got time to download Sopcast about 45 minutes ago. It installed 
without any problem and, thanks to your link to MyP2p I am now watching 
channel 30256.

Now, all I need to do is to learn Korean so I can understand the 
pre-match discussion. :-)

-- 
Howard Neil

Howard Neil wrote:
> PeterMcC wrote:
>> PeterMcC wrote in
>> <fldee6$17o2$1@energise.enta.net>
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>>> ...and a Happy New Year to one and all.
>>>
>>> The top link on:
>>> http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=4123&part=sports
>>> is the Sopcast channel 4001 (hover over the "Play" link and the
>>> channel number shows in the status bar at the bottom of the browser).
>>>
>>> It's currently showing the Fulham/Chelsea match and the quality (of
>>> the image!) is very good.
>>
>> Seem to be having problems on that channel (4001) - the bottom one on the
>> above link, marked "For MyP2P #1", is a good solid stream on Sopcast 
>> Channel
>> 30256.
>>
> 
> Peter,
> 
> Thank you very much for your help, which was clear and precise. I 
> finally got time to download Sopcast about 45 minutes ago. It installed 
> without any problem and, thanks to your link to MyP2p I am now watching 
> channel 30256.
> 
> Now, all I need to do is to learn Korean so I can understand the 
> pre-match discussion. :-)
> 


The link has dropped out. Is it just me and what can I do; just wait?


-- 
Howard Neil

Howard Neil wrote in


<snip>

>> Now, all I need to do is to learn Korean so I can understand the
>> pre-match discussion. :-)
>>
>
>
> The link has dropped out. Is it just me and what can I do; just wait?

Damn! In fact Damn! three times:

One: Sorry. I should have looked in here when the link went down for me in
case you were watching it on the same stream. I just swapped to a different
stream - my apologies. I'll list the other sources below.

Two: There are times when it gets a little bit flaky - I'd really hoped that
it would have been simple and straightforward the first few times so you
could have seen how good it is before encountering difficulties. Apart from
anything else, the wonders of the internet have handed over control of your
TV remote to some well-meaning idiot whom you've never met and who's on the
other side of the world.

Three: Today's match looks to be the only event in which a ball will be
kicked, anywhere in the world, that's not available as a stream!

If you're still game, here are the three places that I look:

http://www.myp2p.eu - the one you used;
http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/ - their streams are done through embedded
video within their web pages but you still need the appropriate software. A
lot of their streams are SopCast.
http://www.footballstreaming.info/ - click the "LIVE Streams & Feedback"
button. Probably the greatest number of streams but some of them can be a
bit obscure.

You might want to supplement your software with "TVAnts" - their download
site isn't worth the visit unless you can read Chinese but it can be
downloaded from:
http://www.myp2p.eu/softwareitem.php?softwareid=4&part=software

The up-side of all this is messing about is that I've watched more top
quality football this season than any subscriber service could have brought
me.

And now - off to 5-Live.

C'mon!

-- 
PeterMcC
If you feel that any of the above is incorrect,
inappropriate or offensive in any way,
please ignore it and accept my apologies.

PeterMcC wrote:

> Three: Today's match looks to be the only event in which a ball will be
> kicked, anywhere in the world, that's not available as a stream!
> 
> If you're still game, here are the three places that I look:

Thanks for all the information. I will save them for future use. Thanks 
for confirming that there is no stream today, I'll stop looking and 
listen to the match on the West Ham site.

One question, how do you change channels in Sopcast? Is it as simple as 
clicking on "Live Channels" and selecting one? Perhaps I'm looking for 
problems that don't exist.




-- 
Howard Neil

Howard Neil wrote in



> Thanks for all the information. I will save them for future use.
> Thanks for confirming that there is no stream today, I'll stop
> looking and listen to the match on the West Ham site.

Perhaps a bit of a blessing in hindsight?

> One question, how do you change channels in Sopcast? Is it as simple
> as clicking on "Live Channels" and selecting one? Perhaps I'm looking
> for problems that don't exist.

It's easiest, most times, to close Sopcast, click on one of the other links
and re-open it. There is a setting in Sopcast, under "Option" that will
allow you to open more than one channel - handy for seeing which one is
performing better. Once you've viewed a channel, it will be in the drop-down
but I haven't found a way of typing the channel number in directly.

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If you feel that any of the above is incorrect,
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please ignore it and accept my apologies.

PeterMcC wrote:
> Howard Neil wrote in
> 
> 
> 
>> Thanks for all the information. I will save them for future use.
>> Thanks for confirming that there is no stream today, I'll stop
>> looking and listen to the match on the West Ham site.
> 
> Perhaps a bit of a blessing in hindsight?

Yes, perhaps they were trying to tell us something.

> 
>> One question, how do you change channels in Sopcast? Is it as simple
>> as clicking on "Live Channels" and selecting one? Perhaps I'm looking
>> for problems that don't exist.
> 
> It's easiest, most times, to close Sopcast, click on one of the other links
> and re-open it. There is a setting in Sopcast, under "Option" that will
> allow you to open more than one channel - handy for seeing which one is
> performing better. Once you've viewed a channel, it will be in the drop-down
> but I haven't found a way of typing the channel number in directly.
> 

Thanks. All understood.

My thoughts re the replay. I think we may now stand a chance. I kept 
hearing the commentator saying that Man City is a fortress but that may 
lead to over confidence. Meanwhile, our away form suggests we prefer to 
play away at the moment. Let's hope we can watch it.



-- 
Howard Neil

As far as I can see, today's match is only available through TVAnts. No 
problem, thought I, I'll just install the software. Everything has gone 
well until I click the link in MyP2P. It start up TVAnts and my security 
(AVG) promptly finds 2 or three files containing Hijack software. I 
allowed AVG to heal the files and now TVAnts is taking an absolute age 
buffering. Anyone any thoughts, please?

-- 
Howard Neil