We all know that for it to be a goal the whole of the ball must cross the 
line, the same for the ball to be out of play etc.
Does anyone know how it works for it to be hand ball in the penalty area? It 
looked to me like not the whole of the ball was in the area, it was hand 
ball, no disputing that but, was it a penalty?
If the ball was half way across the line and he touched the part that was on 
the outside, how can it be a penalty??
Is this covered in the rule book???

Interested and confused of Ilford..!!

Den wrote:

> We all know that for it to be a goal the whole of the ball must cross
> the line, the same for the ball to be out of play etc.  Does anyone
> know how it works for it to be hand ball in the penalty area? It
> looked to me like not the whole of the ball was in the area, it was
> hand ball, no disputing that but, was it a penalty?  If the ball was
> half way across the line and he touched the part that was on the
> outside, how can it be a penalty??  Is this covered in the rule
> book???
> 
> Interested and confused of Ilford..!!

In football the line is counted as part of the area it encloses so if
it was on the line it would be a pen

-- 
BlueCubed

I missed the game on match of the day but it seems like it was full of 
incident can anyone let me know what happened ?

Is opposed to having the club move away from their training ground... does 
anyone agree ?

"BlueCubed"  wrote in message 
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> Den wrote:
>
>> We all know that for it to be a goal the whole of the ball must cross
>> the line, the same for the ball to be out of play etc.  Does anyone
>> know how it works for it to be hand ball in the penalty area? It
>> looked to me like not the whole of the ball was in the area, it was
>> hand ball, no disputing that but, was it a penalty?  If the ball was
>> half way across the line and he touched the part that was on the
>> outside, how can it be a penalty??  Is this covered in the rule
>> book???
>>
>> Interested and confused of Ilford..!!
>
> In football the line is counted as part of the area it encloses so if
> it was on the line it would be a pen
>
> -- 
> BlueCubed

What are u talking about we need to move training grounds due to the railway 
line that will go through the current one
"Chris"  wrote in message 
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>I missed the game on match of the day but it seems like it was full of 
>incident can anyone let me know what happened ?
>
> Is opposed to having the club move away from their training ground... does 
> anyone agree ?
>
> "BlueCubed"  wrote in message 
> news:3wZUi.358$ib1.317@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
>> Den wrote:
>>
>>> We all know that for it to be a goal the whole of the ball must cross
>>> the line, the same for the ball to be out of play etc.  Does anyone
>>> know how it works for it to be hand ball in the penalty area? It
>>> looked to me like not the whole of the ball was in the area, it was
>>> hand ball, no disputing that but, was it a penalty?  If the ball was
>>> half way across the line and he touched the part that was on the
>>> outside, how can it be a penalty??  Is this covered in the rule
>>> book???
>>>
>>> Interested and confused of Ilford..!!
>>
>> In football the line is counted as part of the area it encloses so if
>> it was on the line it would be a pen
>>
>> -- 
>> BlueCubed
>
>

"Den"  wrote in message 
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> We all know that for it to be a goal the whole of the ball must cross the 
> line, the same for the ball to be out of play etc.
> Does anyone know how it works for it to be hand ball in the penalty area? 
> It looked to me like not the whole of the ball was in the area, it was 
> hand ball, no disputing that but, was it a penalty?
> If the ball was half way across the line and he touched the part that was 
> on the outside, how can it be a penalty??
> Is this covered in the rule book???
>
> Interested and confused of Ilford..!!
>

No matter what the rights and wrongs are, a penalty is a penalty if given as 
such by the ref. Hence it's a judgement call, and refs are only human and 
can and do make mistakes. Having watched this on TV, I believe the ref's 
decision was harsh in this instance, but no harm done, thanks to the 
excellent Mr Green.

pied piper wrote in
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> What are u talking about we need to move training grounds due to the
> railway line that will go through the current one

That'll be why it's called a training ground...

...as for the pen, I'd reluctantly have to say that I thought it was one -
I'd have certainly been yelling if it had been the other way round - but
what a save!

In line with what others seem to think, I was heartened by the performance
in a match that the form book said we should lose.

As for Bellamy - I know I complained bitterly when his name was first linked
with the club but I've had to admit that he's been one of our best players.
But Saturday just confirmed the worst aspects of his character - I can't
help feeling that, if he thinks that a bit of physical violence and shared
aggression bonds a team together, it's time someone gave him a real good
bonding.

Carlton Cole. for me, is the revelation of the season so far and I'm
impressed with his strength, commitment and agility.

And, please, I know Green's brilliant but could we keep him away from the
England team? We know all too well what happens to our players when they get
into the squad.

-- 
PeterMcC
If you feel that any of the above is incorrect,
inappropriate or offensive in any way,
please ignore it and accept my apologies.

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> pied piper wrote in
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>
<snip>
>
> Carlton Cole. for me, is the revelation of the season so far and I'm
> impressed with his strength, commitment and agility.
>

I'm impressed with the fact he ain't injured!

BAC wrote:
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>>
> <snip>
>> Carlton Cole. for me, is the revelation of the season so far and I'm
>> impressed with his strength, commitment and agility.
>>
> 
> I'm impressed with the fact he ain't injured! 
> 
> 
Please don't tempt fate. We can't afford any more injuries.

"Invisible Man" <Invisible@invisible.co.uk.invalid> wrote in message 
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> BAC wrote:
>> "PeterMcC"  wrote in message 
>> news:fg201f$1k3u$1@energise.enta.net...
>>> pied piper wrote in
>>> <yt_Ui.16938$T8.9610@newsfe5-win.ntli.net>
>>>
>> <snip>
>>> Carlton Cole. for me, is the revelation of the season so far and I'm
>>> impressed with his strength, commitment and agility.
>>>
>>
>> I'm impressed with the fact he ain't injured!
> Please don't tempt fate. We can't afford any more injuries.

Too true. If you think about the people dispensed with from last season's 
squad - Tevez, Mascherano, Benayoun, Reo-Coker, Sheringham, Konch, Marlon - 
we need all the summer's replacements and last term's long term wounded back 
fit and playing just to be standing still in terms of squad depth and 
quality. None of them's 100% at the moment, so we certainly don't need any 
more injury problems. The plus side is it gives players like Mullins and 
Cole the opportunity to prove themselves, and full credit to those that have 
done so.

BAC wrote in


> "PeterMcC"  wrote in message
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>> pied piper wrote in
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>> 
> <snip>
>> 
>> Carlton Cole. for me, is the revelation of the season so far and I'm
>> impressed with his strength, commitment and agility.
>> 
> 
> I'm impressed with the fact he ain't injured!

A call up to the national squad ought to deal with that.

-- 
PeterMcC
If you feel that any of the above is incorrect,
inappropriate or offensive in any way,
please ignore it and accept my apologies.

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> BAC wrote in
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>
>> "PeterMcC"  wrote in message
>> news:fg201f$1k3u$1@energise.enta.net...
>>> pied piper wrote in
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>>>
>> <snip>
>>>
>>> Carlton Cole. for me, is the revelation of the season so far and I'm
>>> impressed with his strength, commitment and agility.
>>>
>>
>> I'm impressed with the fact he ain't injured!
>
> A call up to the national squad ought to deal with that.
>

Could he be the next Emile Heskey, I wonder? I doubt there are many central 
defenders who enjoy the physical challenge he offers. If he rediscovers his 
confidence in front of goal, he may well get back in the running, but I 
don't see that happening just yet. Curbishley had him on loan for a while at 
Charlton, so maybe he can help him relaunch his career.

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> "PeterMcC"  wrote in message 
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>>> "PeterMcC"  wrote in message
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>>>> pied piper wrote in
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>>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>> Carlton Cole. for me, is the revelation of the season so far and I'm
>>>> impressed with his strength, commitment and agility.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm impressed with the fact he ain't injured!
>>
>> A call up to the national squad ought to deal with that.
>>
>
> Could he be the next Emile Heskey, I wonder? I doubt there are many 
> central defenders who enjoy the physical challenge he offers. If he 
> rediscovers his confidence in front of goal, he may well get back in the 
> running, but I don't see that happening just yet. Curbishley had him on 
> loan for a while at Charlton, so maybe he can help him relaunch his 
> career.
>
Wots the news on Zamora? We miss him up front.

Mel.

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>>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>>
>>>>> Carlton Cole. for me, is the revelation of the season so far and I'm
>>>>> impressed with his strength, commitment and agility.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm impressed with the fact he ain't injured!
>>>
>>> A call up to the national squad ought to deal with that.
>>>
>>
>> Could he be the next Emile Heskey, I wonder? I doubt there are many 
>> central defenders who enjoy the physical challenge he offers. If he 
>> rediscovers his confidence in front of goal, he may well get back in the 
>> running, but I don't see that happening just yet. Curbishley had him on 
>> loan for a while at Charlton, so maybe he can help him relaunch his 
>> career.
>>
> Wots the news on Zamora? We miss him up front.
>

According to reports, he's still unavailable through injury, unfortunately, 
as are Ashton and Bellamy. We certainly could have done with him for 
tonight's game, what with Camara being cup-tied, so, unless Curbs calls on 
someone from the reserves (thought- if you're never going to let them play 
for the first team, what's the point of the reserves?), Carlton Cole will be 
the only specialist striker available. I do not have a particularly good 
feeling about this game, I hope I'm wrong about that and we stuff them, of 
course :-)

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>>>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carlton Cole. for me, is the revelation of the season so far and I'm
>>>>>> impressed with his strength, commitment and agility.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm impressed with the fact he ain't injured!
>>>>
>>>> A call up to the national squad ought to deal with that.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Could he be the next Emile Heskey, I wonder? I doubt there are many 
>>> central defenders who enjoy the physical challenge he offers. If he 
>>> rediscovers his confidence in front of goal, he may well get back in the 
>>> running, but I don't see that happening just yet. Curbishley had him on 
>>> loan for a while at Charlton, so maybe he can help him relaunch his 
>>> career.
>>>
>> Wots the news on Zamora? We miss him up front.
>>
>
> According to reports, he's still unavailable through injury, 
> unfortunately, as are Ashton and Bellamy. We certainly could have done 
> with him for tonight's game, what with Camara being cup-tied, so, unless 
> Curbs calls on someone from the reserves (thought- if you're never going 
> to let them play for the first team, what's the point of the reserves?), 
> Carlton Cole will be the only specialist striker available. I do not have 
> a particularly good feeling about this game, I hope I'm wrong about that 
> and we stuff them, of course :-)
>
We were lucky.

Mel.