Last week we had Haining being dismissed and Celtic awarded a penalty, this 
week we have this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Syrxv9VslQ

Shocking, and makes our referees a laughing stock. in my view if United been 
awarded the penalty, they would have went on to win, they were better today. 
Celtic have been given 3 points out of two games they just do not deserve.

"Blue1873"  wrote in
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> 
> 
> Last week we had Haining being dismissed and Celtic awarded a penalty,
> this week we have this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Syrxv9VslQ
> 
> Shocking, and makes our referees a laughing stock. in my view if
> United been awarded the penalty, they would have went on to win, they
> were better today. Celtic have been given 3 points out of two games
> they just do not deserve.

As much a claim as the one Naka had against them last season when he was 
booked. Caldwell obviously pulled his right foot back to avoid tripping 
the player and he decided to fall over. You really think if a player was 
brought down in the box he would have reacted the way O'Donovan did?

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>>
>>
>> Last week we had Haining being dismissed and Celtic awarded a penalty,
>> this week we have this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Syrxv9VslQ
>>
>> Shocking, and makes our referees a laughing stock. in my view if
>> United been awarded the penalty, they would have went on to win, they
>> were better today. Celtic have been given 3 points out of two games
>> they just do not deserve.
>
> As much a claim as the one Naka had against them last season when he was
> booked. Caldwell obviously pulled his right foot back to avoid tripping
> the player and he decided to fall over. You really think if a player was
> brought down in the box he would have reacted the way O'Donovan did?
>
> -- 
> sme

You are joking right?
That was a stone wall penalty, no one decided to fall over, the momentum of 
Caldwell sliding in and his left leg contacting brought him down.
The lad was totally bewildered he did not get the penalty...as is the rest 
of Scotland.

"Blue1873"  wrote in
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> "sme"  wrote in message 
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>> "Blue1873"  wrote in
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>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Last week we had Haining being dismissed and Celtic awarded a
>>> penalty, this week we have this
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Syrxv9VslQ 
>>>
>>> Shocking, and makes our referees a laughing stock. in my view if
>>> United been awarded the penalty, they would have went on to win,
>>> they were better today. Celtic have been given 3 points out of two
>>> games they just do not deserve.
>>
>> As much a claim as the one Naka had against them last season when he
>> was booked. Caldwell obviously pulled his right foot back to avoid
>> tripping the player and he decided to fall over. You really think if
>> a player was brought down in the box he would have reacted the way
>> O'Donovan did? 
>>
>> -- 
>> sme
> 
> You are joking right?
> That was a stone wall penalty, no one decided to fall over, the
> momentum of Caldwell sliding in and his left leg contacting brought
> him down. The lad was totally bewildered he did not get the
> penalty...as is the rest of Scotland.

You'll have to watch it again as it was his right leg which the player 
'tripped' over. What about the couple of 'handballs' against Caldwell? 
Were those penalties as well?

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>>>
>>>
>>> Last week we had Haining being dismissed and Celtic awarded a penalty,
>>> this week we have this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Syrxv9VslQ
>>>
>>> Shocking, and makes our referees a laughing stock. in my view if
>>> United been awarded the penalty, they would have went on to win, they
>>> were better today. Celtic have been given 3 points out of two games
>>> they just do not deserve.
>>
>> As much a claim as the one Naka had against them last season when he was
>> booked. Caldwell obviously pulled his right foot back to avoid tripping
>> the player and he decided to fall over. You really think if a player was
>> brought down in the box he would have reacted the way O'Donovan did?
>>
>> -- 
>> sme
>
> You are joking right?
> That was a stone wall penalty, no one decided to fall over, the momentum 
> of Caldwell sliding in and his left leg contacting brought him down.
> The lad was totally bewildered he did not get the penalty...as is the rest 
> of Scotland.

Rest if scotland ? I would have thought it would have only been Dundee Utd 
fans bothered,oh aye and of course Rangers fans.Very strange though when 
Celtic are denied a stonewall one we never see the same people posting about 
it.

JB

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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Last week we had Haining being dismissed and Celtic awarded a penalty,
>>>> this week we have this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Syrxv9VslQ
>>>>
>>>> Shocking, and makes our referees a laughing stock. in my view if
>>>> United been awarded the penalty, they would have went on to win, they
>>>> were better today. Celtic have been given 3 points out of two games
>>>> they just do not deserve.
>>>
>>> As much a claim as the one Naka had against them last season when he was
>>> booked. Caldwell obviously pulled his right foot back to avoid tripping
>>> the player and he decided to fall over. You really think if a player was
>>> brought down in the box he would have reacted the way O'Donovan did?
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> sme
>>
>> You are joking right?
>> That was a stone wall penalty, no one decided to fall over, the momentum 
>> of Caldwell sliding in and his left leg contacting brought him down.
>> The lad was totally bewildered he did not get the penalty...as is the 
>> rest of Scotland.
>
> Rest if scotland ? I would have thought it would have only been Dundee Utd 
> fans bothered,oh aye and of course Rangers fans.Very strange though when 
> Celtic are denied a stonewall one we never see the same people posting 
> about it.
>
> JB

I am new here and havent seen Celtic being denied anything yet, however last 
season they seemed to get their fair share of decisions.
The teams who seemed to get the majority last season were Hibs and Aberdeen.

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>I would have thought it would have only been Dundee Utd fans bothered,oh 
>aye and of course Rangers fans.


I heard a Jambo on Talksport commenting about it and he was incredulous. 
Haven't seen it myself.

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>>I would have thought it would have only been Dundee Utd fans bothered,oh 
>>aye and of course Rangers fans.
>
>
> I heard a Jambo on Talksport commenting about it and he was incredulous. 
> Haven't seen it myself.
>

Watch the video, now I have said players should be fined, so should refs!

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>>>> "Blue1873"  wrote in
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Last week we had Haining being dismissed and Celtic awarded a penalty,
>>>>> this week we have this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Syrxv9VslQ
>>>>>
>>>>> Shocking, and makes our referees a laughing stock. in my view if
>>>>> United been awarded the penalty, they would have went on to win, they
>>>>> were better today. Celtic have been given 3 points out of two games
>>>>> they just do not deserve.
>>>>
>>>> As much a claim as the one Naka had against them last season when he 
>>>> was
>>>> booked. Caldwell obviously pulled his right foot back to avoid tripping
>>>> the player and he decided to fall over. You really think if a player 
>>>> was
>>>> brought down in the box he would have reacted the way O'Donovan did?
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> sme
>>>
>>> You are joking right?
>>> That was a stone wall penalty, no one decided to fall over, the momentum 
>>> of Caldwell sliding in and his left leg contacting brought him down.
>>> The lad was totally bewildered he did not get the penalty...as is the 
>>> rest of Scotland.
>>
>> Rest if scotland ? I would have thought it would have only been Dundee 
>> Utd fans bothered,oh aye and of course Rangers fans.Very strange though 
>> when Celtic are denied a stonewall one we never see the same people 
>> posting about it.
>>
>> JB
>
> I am new here and havent seen Celtic being denied anything yet, however 
> last season they seemed to get their fair share of decisions.
> The teams who seemed to get the majority last season were Hibs and 
> Aberdeen.

Welcome to the newsgroup, where black is white, right is wrong and celtic, 
their fans, players and club are always in the right. You'll need a sense of 
the absurd here.

In article , life@sea.com says...
 
> Welcome to the newsgroup, where black is white, right is wrong and celtic, 
> their fans, players and club are always in the right. You'll need a sense of 
> the absurd here.

Splutters his can of Bud over the laptop then searches for the smiley...

-- 
http://www.glasgow-edinburgh.co.uk/

In article , blue1873@hotmail.za 
says...
> 
> 
> Last week we had Haining being dismissed and Celtic awarded a penalty, this 
> week we have this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Syrxv9VslQ

Believe it or not the referee might have had a initial higher definintion 
view of it than youtube without the benefit of the youtube replay facility.

I initially thought it was a dive but on replay from several angles agree 
it was a penalty though there WAS an element of theatrics during and after 
the foul.


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Jim Mason  wrote in
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> In article , life@sea.com
> says... 
>  
>> Welcome to the newsgroup, where black is white, right is wrong and
>> celtic, their fans, players and club are always in the right. You'll
>> need a sense of the absurd here.
> 
> Splutters his can of Bud over the laptop then searches for the
> smiley...

Lol even i can accept we (celtic fans) have a biased perspective on 
things but again, a rangers fan cheers me up with another comedy moment. 
:-)

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Jim Mason  wrote in
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> In article ,
> blue1873@hotmail.za says...
>> 
>> 
>> Last week we had Haining being dismissed and Celtic awarded a
>> penalty, this week we have this
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Syrxv9VslQ 
> 
> Believe it or not the referee might have had a initial higher
> definintion view of it than youtube without the benefit of the youtube
> replay facility. 
> 
> I initially thought it was a dive but on replay from several angles
> agree it was a penalty though there WAS an element of theatrics during
> and after the foul.

Maybe its my green tinted specs but i still believe it was more of a dive 
than a foul. IMO Caldwell tried to pull his right foot back to prevent 
tripping the player and it wasn't the contact which caused the player to 
go down.

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>> In article ,
>> blue1873@hotmail.za says...
>>>
>>>
>>> Last week we had Haining being dismissed and Celtic awarded a
>>> penalty, this week we have this
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Syrxv9VslQ
>>
>> Believe it or not the referee might have had a initial higher
>> definintion view of it than youtube without the benefit of the youtube
>> replay facility.
>>
>> I initially thought it was a dive but on replay from several angles
>> agree it was a penalty though there WAS an element of theatrics during
>> and after the foul.
>
> Maybe its my green tinted specs but i still believe it was more of a dive
> than a foul. IMO Caldwell tried to pull his right foot back to prevent
> tripping the player and it wasn't the contact which caused the player to
> go down.
>
> -- 
> sme

You do not have green tinted specs on, you have green blindness!

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>> Jim Mason  wrote in
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>>> In article ,
>>> blue1873@hotmail.za says...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Last week we had Haining being dismissed and Celtic awarded a
>>>> penalty, this week we have this
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Syrxv9VslQ
>>>
>>> Believe it or not the referee might have had a initial higher
>>> definintion view of it than youtube without the benefit of the
>>> youtube replay facility.
>>>
>>> I initially thought it was a dive but on replay from several angles
>>> agree it was a penalty though there WAS an element of theatrics
>>> during and after the foul.
>>
>> Maybe its my green tinted specs but i still believe it was more of a
>> dive than a foul. IMO Caldwell tried to pull his right foot back to
>> prevent tripping the player and it wasn't the contact which caused
>> the player to go down.
>>
>> -- 
>> sme
> 
> You do not have green tinted specs on, you have green blindness!

At least i can admit it. :-P

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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Last week we had Haining being dismissed and Celtic awarded a 
>>>>>> penalty,
>>>>>> this week we have this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Syrxv9VslQ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shocking, and makes our referees a laughing stock. in my view if
>>>>>> United been awarded the penalty, they would have went on to win, they
>>>>>> were better today. Celtic have been given 3 points out of two games
>>>>>> they just do not deserve.
>>>>>
>>>>> As much a claim as the one Naka had against them last season when he 
>>>>> was
>>>>> booked. Caldwell obviously pulled his right foot back to avoid 
>>>>> tripping
>>>>> the player and he decided to fall over. You really think if a player 
>>>>> was
>>>>> brought down in the box he would have reacted the way O'Donovan did?
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> sme
>>>>
>>>> You are joking right?
>>>> That was a stone wall penalty, no one decided to fall over, the 
>>>> momentum of Caldwell sliding in and his left leg contacting brought him 
>>>> down.
>>>> The lad was totally bewildered he did not get the penalty...as is the 
>>>> rest of Scotland.
>>>
>>> Rest if scotland ? I would have thought it would have only been Dundee 
>>> Utd fans bothered,oh aye and of course Rangers fans.Very strange though 
>>> when Celtic are denied a stonewall one we never see the same people 
>>> posting about it.
>>>
>>> JB
>>
>> I am new here and havent seen Celtic being denied anything yet, however 
>> last season they seemed to get their fair share of decisions.
>> The teams who seemed to get the majority last season were Hibs and 
>> Aberdeen.
>
> Welcome to the newsgroup, where black is white, right is wrong and celtic, 
> their fans, players and club are always in the right. You'll need a sense 
> of the absurd here.

Aye, it's only the tims who behave like that. Get a grip.

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>>>I would have thought it would have only been Dundee Utd fans bothered,oh 
>>>aye and of course Rangers fans.
>>
>>
>> I heard a Jambo on Talksport commenting about it and he was incredulous. 
>> Haven't seen it myself.
>>
>
> Watch the video, now I have said players should be fined, so should refs!

Seen it.  It was a penalty but the second movement gave the referee a reason 
not to give it.

In article , zb@hotmail.com says...
 
> Aye, it's only the tims who behave like that. Get a grip. 

To be fair - I think FS was playing along with the thread title.

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>> In article , life@sea.com
>> says...
>>
>>> Welcome to the newsgroup, where black is white, right is wrong and
>>> celtic, their fans, players and club are always in the right. You'll
>>> need a sense of the absurd here.
>>
>> Splutters his can of Bud over the laptop then searches for the
>> smiley...
>
> Lol even i can accept we (celtic fans) have a biased perspective on
> things but again, a rangers fan cheers me up with another comedy moment.
> :-)
>
> -- 
> sme

lol This would be the black and white where i was accused of attacking 
rangers for sticking up for Buffel while he played for them . Or where i 
mentioned we got lucky breaks today.Aye all black and white huh,Rangers 
fans....never wrong in any way shape or form ;-)

In article <K4WdnY3uh-UN-jXVnZ2dnUVZ8sbinZ2d@posted.plusnet>, fager1
@yahoo.co.uk says...
 
> Seen it.  It was a penalty but the second movement gave the referee a reason 
> not to give it. 

Indeed.

BTW, it is spelt "Farcical"

From Farce.  You can take the teacher out of the classroom............   ;)

And before you try, spelt is the archaic, (yes I am an old fart) form of 
spelled and is correct in this case.

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>
> Last week we had Haining being dismissed and Celtic awarded a penalty, 
> this week we have this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Syrxv9VslQ
>
> Shocking, and makes our referees a laughing stock. in my view if United 
> been awarded the penalty, they would have went on to win, they were better 
> today. Celtic have been given 3 points out of two games they just do not 
> deserve.

You're half right, the referee got it wrong by not booking the Utd player.

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>>
>> Last week we had Haining being dismissed and Celtic awarded a penalty, 
>> this week we have this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Syrxv9VslQ
>>
>> Shocking, and makes our referees a laughing stock. in my view if United 
>> been awarded the penalty, they would have went on to win, they were 
>> better today. Celtic have been given 3 points out of two games they just 
>> do not deserve.
>
> You're half right, the referee got it wrong by not booking the Utd player.
I would contend that you have it wrong on both counts.  From the byline shot 
at the goal, contact is clearly seen and the Dundee United players sense of 
aggrievement was justified.

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>>>
>>> Last week we had Haining being dismissed and Celtic awarded a penalty, 
>>> this week we have this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Syrxv9VslQ
>>>
>>> Shocking, and makes our referees a laughing stock. in my view if United 
>>> been awarded the penalty, they would have went on to win, they were 
>>> better today. Celtic have been given 3 points out of two games they just 
>>> do not deserve.
>>
>> You're half right, the referee got it wrong by not booking the Utd 
>> player.
> I would contend that you have it wrong on both counts.  From the byline 
> shot at the goal, contact is clearly seen and the Dundee United players 
> sense of aggrievement was justified.
>

The Arab player asked to get the wrong decision by emphasising the foul, 
(and it was a foul).  After watching the replay, nobody can deny he dived. 
That actually happens quite a lot in football, where the fouled player 
'acts' himself out of the decision.

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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Last week we had Haining being dismissed and Celtic awarded a
>>>> penalty, this week we have this
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Syrxv9VslQ 
>>>>
>>>> Shocking, and makes our referees a laughing stock. in my view if
>>>> United been awarded the penalty, they would have went on to win,
>>>> they were better today. Celtic have been given 3 points out of two
>>>> games they just do not deserve.
>>>
>>> You're half right, the referee got it wrong by not booking the Utd 
>>> player.
>> I would contend that you have it wrong on both counts.  From the
>> byline shot at the goal, contact is clearly seen and the Dundee
>> United players sense of aggrievement was justified.
>>
> 
> The Arab player asked to get the wrong decision by emphasising the
> foul, (and it was a foul).  After watching the replay, nobody can deny
> he dived. That actually happens quite a lot in football, where the
> fouled player 'acts' himself out of the decision.

It doesn't happen a lot but i agree with you Angof. It was a penalty 
right up til Caldwell pulled his right foot back and the player decided 
to go down then. If he had gone down when the initial challenge was made, 
without emphasis, then it would have been a stick on penalty.

Some players just aren't quick enough to win things like this.

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>>>
>>> Last week we had Haining being dismissed and Celtic awarded a penalty, 
>>> this week we have this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Syrxv9VslQ
>>>
>>> Shocking, and makes our referees a laughing stock. in my view if United 
>>> been awarded the penalty, they would have went on to win, they were 
>>> better today. Celtic have been given 3 points out of two games they just 
>>> do not deserve.
>>
>> You're half right, the referee got it wrong by not booking the Utd 
>> player.
> I would contend that you have it wrong on both counts.  From the byline 
> shot at the goal, contact is clearly seen and the Dundee United players 
> sense of aggrievement was justified.

He clearly dived Oso, you need to get a new prescription for those failing 
eyes of yours ;-)

I would concede that the grappling by JVOH in the first half was much more a 
penalty but unfortunately, referees never have had any consistency in how 
they deal with the shenanigans at set pieces.

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> "sme"  wrote in message 
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>> Jim Mason  wrote in
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>>> In article , life@sea.com
>>> says...
>>>
>>>> Welcome to the newsgroup, where black is white, right is wrong and
>>>> celtic, their fans, players and club are always in the right. You'll
>>>> need a sense of the absurd here.
>>>
>>> Splutters his can of Bud over the laptop then searches for the
>>> smiley...
>>
>> Lol even i can accept we (celtic fans) have a biased perspective on
>> things but again, a rangers fan cheers me up with another comedy moment.
>> :-)
>>
>> -- 
>> sme
>
> lol This would be the black and white where i was accused of attacking 
> rangers for sticking up for Buffel while he played for them . Or where i 
> mentioned we got lucky breaks today.Aye all black and white huh,Rangers 
> fans....never wrong in any way shape or form ;-)

You stuck up for Buffel because you were having a go at Rangers. You've 
never stuck up for any player against your club.
And pointing out that you got lucky breaks? Wow, now *there's* withering 
criticism of your club.

I take it all back, JB - truly you have the impartiality of a supreme court 
judge.

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> "Jonbhoy"  wrote in message 
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>> "sme"  wrote in message 
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>>> Jim Mason  wrote in
>>> news:MPG.23126d062f942a4798991c@news.individual.net:
>>>
>>>> In article , life@sea.com
>>>> says...
>>>>
>>>>> Welcome to the newsgroup, where black is white, right is wrong and
>>>>> celtic, their fans, players and club are always in the right. You'll
>>>>> need a sense of the absurd here.
>>>>
>>>> Splutters his can of Bud over the laptop then searches for the
>>>> smiley...
>>>
>>> Lol even i can accept we (celtic fans) have a biased perspective on
>>> things but again, a rangers fan cheers me up with another comedy moment.
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> sme
>>
>> lol This would be the black and white where i was accused of attacking 
>> rangers for sticking up for Buffel while he played for them . Or where i 
>> mentioned we got lucky breaks today.Aye all black and white huh,Rangers 
>> fans....never wrong in any way shape or form ;-)
>
> You stuck up for Buffel because you were having a go at Rangers. You've 
> never stuck up for any player against your club.

lmao...you still think that.So you were sticking up for Balde just so you 
could have a go at Celtic right? So Rangers players are nothing to do with 
the club,thats real class.And i think you will find i have stuck up for 
opposing players at certain times,a couple of times i believe it was Hartson 
went in heavy and i said i felt he was in the wrong and deserved more than 
he got in terms of cards,and he is not the only player.Problem is you made a 
very stupid comment about me being blinkered and now you are doing anything 
to try to make it stick instead of apologising.But sadly im not as blinkered 
as you would like to believe.

> And pointing out that you got lucky breaks? Wow, now *there's* withering 
> criticism of your club.

Theres a pattern here,firstly i stand up for an opposition player,and thats 
seen as attacking rangers.Now i agree we were lucky and didnt really deserve 
the draw and you no doubt see that as blinkered? Yet if i had said stuff it 
we deserved a win would you have jumped out saying wow now your blinkered? 
So as shown it doesnt matter what is said or typed it is infact you thats 
blinkered as you make a decision on someone and stick to it no matter how 
wrong you are.

> I take it all back, JB - truly you have the impartiality of a supreme 
> court judge.

Finally a bit of sense from you.Took long enough but glad you admitted it.

JB

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>>>> I would have thought it would have only been Dundee Utd fans
>>>> bothered,oh aye and of course Rangers fans.
>>>  I heard a Jambo on Talksport commenting about it and he was
>>> incredulous.  Haven't seen it myself.

>>  Watch the video, now I have said players should be fined, so should
>> refs!

> Seen it.  It was a penalty but the second movement gave the referee a
> reason not to give it. 

He should have booked the player for diving/simulation then, no?

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>>>>> I would have thought it would have only been Dundee Utd fans
>>>>> bothered,oh aye and of course Rangers fans.
>>>>  I heard a Jambo on Talksport commenting about it and he was
>>>> incredulous.  Haven't seen it myself.
>
>>>  Watch the video, now I have said players should be fined, so should
>>> refs!
>
>> Seen it.  It was a penalty but the second movement gave the referee a
>> reason not to give it.
>
> He should have booked the player for diving/simulation then, no?
>

I think that would be harsh, I don't think he was trying to cheat. He was 
fouled and just wanted the referee to see it. Foolish but understandable.