http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_3652807,00.html

"andy" wrote:
>
> http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_3652807,00.html

I really like Kenny Miller. I was so happy when he broke his duck
against Rioters FC two years ago at Celtic Park. He'll run all day for
you too. He might no score any goals mind you, but hey! you can't have
everything in a striker... ;)

"liam67"  wrote in message 
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> "andy" wrote:
>>
>> http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_3652807,00.html
>
> I really like Kenny Miller. I was so happy when he broke his duck
> against Rioters FC two years ago at Celtic Park. He'll run all day for
> you too. He might no score any goals mind you, but hey! you can't have
> everything in a striker... ;)

The only thing I can see wattie using him for is to do all the running and 
when his shot at goal bounces off whereever it ends up, he will have boyd to 
tuck  it away.

IMO this is a step backwards, we have better than him already.

"andy" wrote:
> "liam67" wrote:
> > "andy" wrote:
>
> >>http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_3652807,00.html
>
> > I really like Kenny Miller. I was so happy when he broke his duck
> > against Rioters FC two years ago at Celtic Park. He'll run all day for
> > you too. He might no score any goals mind you, but hey! you can't have
> > everything in a striker... ;)
>
> The only thing I can see wattie using him for is to do all the running and> when his shot at goal bounces off whereever it ends up, he will have boyd to
> tuck  it away.
>
> IMO this is a step backwards, we have better than him already.

Maybe, but I think he might end up doing you a turn. I'll no' like him
so much if he does tho'...;)

"liam67"  wrote in message 
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"andy" wrote:
> "liam67" wrote:
> > "andy" wrote:
>
> >>http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_3652807,00.html
>
> > I really like Kenny Miller. I was so happy when he broke his duck
> > against Rioters FC two years ago at Celtic Park. He'll run all day for
> > you too. He might no score any goals mind you, but hey! you can't have
> > everything in a striker... ;)
>
> The only thing I can see wattie using him for is to do all the running and
> when his shot at goal bounces off whereever it ends up, he will have boyd 
> to
> tuck it away.
>
> IMO this is a step backwards, we have better than him already.

Maybe, but I think he might end up doing you a turn. I'll no' like him
so much if he does tho'...;)

I have to agree he may well fit into what smiths vision is, however he has 
been an abject failure at CP and at Derby, but granted he was surrounded by 
shite at Derby.
He did very well at wolves and was adored down there, and he didnt do too 
badly when he was at Rangers before that and was excellent at Hibs.

Just on a sidenote, rumours have it that Scott Brown wants out of CP?? heard 
anything?

"andy" wrote:
> "liam67" wrote:
> "andy" wrote:
> > "liam67" wrote:
> > > "andy" wrote:
>
> > >>http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_3652807,00.html
>
> > > I really like Kenny Miller. I was so happy when he broke his duck
> > > against Rioters FC two years ago at Celtic Park. He'll run all day for
> > > you too. He might no score any goals mind you, but hey! you can't have
> > > everything in a striker... ;)
>
> > The only thing I can see wattie using him for is to do all the running and
> > when his shot at goal bounces off whereever it ends up, he will have boyd
> > to
> > tuck it away.
>
> > IMO this is a step backwards, we have better than him already.
>
> Maybe, but I think he might end up doing you a turn. I'll no' like him
> so much if he does tho'...;)
>
> I have to agree he may well fit into what smiths vision is, however he has
> been an abject failure at CP and at Derby, but granted he was surrounded by
> shite at Derby.
> He did very well at wolves and was adored down there, and he didnt do too
> badly when he was at Rangers before that and was excellent at Hibs.

He seems a popular players where ever he goes. (Contrast also with
Cousin or Boyd who don't seem interested when playing). There is
Celtic web site just now that it discussing if everyone likes Kenny
Miller (Paul67 on QuickNews), and alot of them seem to like him. But
supposedly you were singing "You can stick your Kenny Miller up Your
Arse" at the Cup Final so that might have something to do with why we
all like him. Apparently The Rangers Supporters Trust is telling
people that rumours about Miller started spreading in Piccadilly
Gardens before the Uefa Cup Final..;)

> Just on a sidenote, rumours have it that Scott Brown wants out of CP?? heard
> anything?

I heard there was a disagreement over a financial payment but it's
probably just a rumour. Barry Robson is the new Scott Brown
anyway.. ;)

btw out of interest, where did you hear the rumour? I'm not anally
looking for proof here I'm just interested.

On Jun 5, 10:17 am, "andy"  wrote:
> http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_3652807,00.html

He's a less annoying Nacho Novo.

Wonder if he'll score against us.

"andy"  wrote in message 
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> http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_3652807,00.html

Looks like one of the most unpopular signings in recent times. He's not a 
great player, but he's not that bad. What happened to all the money from the 
UCL & the UEFA cup run?

HoopsBhoy wrote:
> "andy" wrote:
>
> >http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_3652807,00.html
>
> He's a less annoying Nacho Novo.
>
> Wonder if he'll score against us.

HB shouldn't you re-phrase that question as "Wonder if he'll score." ;)

On Jun 5, 1:29 pm, liam67  wrote:
> HoopsBhoy wrote:
> > "andy" wrote:
>
> > >http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_3652807,00.html
>
> > He's a less annoying Nacho Novo.
>
> > Wonder if he'll score against us.
>
> HB shouldn't you re-phrase that question as "Wonder if he'll score." ;)

:)

He aint no Franny Jeffers that's for sure.

"HoopsBhoy" wrote in message 

He's a less annoying Nacho Novo.

Wonder if he'll score against us.



Then run away kissing the badge like he did when he scored against them. 

littlebhoybri

"littlebhoybri"  wrote in message 
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>
> "HoopsBhoy" wrote in message
> He's a less annoying Nacho Novo.
>
> Wonder if he'll score against us.
>
>
>
> Then run away kissing the badge like he did when he scored against them.

Did he?

On Jun 5, 4:41 pm, "Angof"  wrote:
> "littlebhoybri"  wrote in message
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> news:8iT1k.133562$UP6.78853@newsfe14.ams2...
>
>
>
> > "HoopsBhoy" wrote in message
> > He's a less annoying Nacho Novo.
>
> > Wonder if he'll score against us.
>
> > Then run away kissing the badge like he did when he scored against them.> Did he?

you can always spot the ones that never saw him play at the GG
stadium:-)

http://ifyouknowtheirhistory.blogspot.com


makes great reading, some big person should read it to liam

"liam67"  wrote in message 
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> "andy" wrote:
>> "liam67" wrote:
>> "andy" wrote:
>> > "liam67" wrote:
>> > > "andy" wrote:
>>
>> > >>http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_3652807,00.html
>>
>> > > I really like Kenny Miller. I was so happy when he broke his duck
>> > > against Rioters FC two years ago at Celtic Park. He'll run all day 
>> > > for
>> > > you too. He might no score any goals mind you, but hey! you can't 
>> > > have
>> > > everything in a striker... ;)
>>
>> > The only thing I can see wattie using him for is to do all the running 
>> > and
>> > when his shot at goal bounces off whereever it ends up, he will have 
>> > boyd
>> > to
>> > tuck it away.
>>
>> > IMO this is a step backwards, we have better than him already.
>>
>> Maybe, but I think he might end up doing you a turn. I'll no' like him
>> so much if he does tho'...;)
>>
>> I have to agree he may well fit into what smiths vision is, however he 
>> has
>> been an abject failure at CP and at Derby, but granted he was surrounded 
>> by
>> shite at Derby.
>> He did very well at wolves and was adored down there, and he didnt do too
>> badly when he was at Rangers before that and was excellent at Hibs.
>
> He seems a popular players where ever he goes. (Contrast also with
> Cousin or Boyd who don't seem interested when playing). There is
> Celtic web site just now that it discussing if everyone likes Kenny
> Miller (Paul67 on QuickNews), and alot of them seem to like him. But
> supposedly you were singing "You can stick your Kenny Miller up Your
> Arse" at the Cup Final so that might have something to do with why we
> all like him. Apparently The Rangers Supporters Trust is telling
> people that rumours about Miller started spreading in Piccadilly
> Gardens before the Uefa Cup Final..;)
>
>> Just on a sidenote, rumours have it that Scott Brown wants out of CP?? 
>> heard
>> anything?
>
> I heard there was a disagreement over a financial payment but it's
> probably just a rumour. Barry Robson is the new Scott Brown
> anyway.. ;)
>
> btw out of interest, where did you hear the rumour? I'm not anally
> looking for proof here I'm just interested.

Just some mates were talking about it, all bluenoses BTW

"ZB"  wrote in message 
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> "andy"  wrote in message 
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>> http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_3652807,00.html
>
> Looks like one of the most unpopular signings in recent times. He's not a 
> great player, but he's not that bad. What happened to all the money from 
> the UCL & the UEFA cup run?
>

well theres goes 2 million of it on him

"andy"  wrote in message 
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> http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_3652807,00.html

He's improved since he was with us the first time and he'll provide us with 
the pace and mobility up front that we don't have. I won't be applauding him 
on to the field but I will applaud him off if he does a job for us.

No offense mate, but if I have to choose between your views on what Rangers 
need and Walter Smith's - ain't no way that ends well for you.

On Jun 6, 10:05 am, "FishSupper"  wrote:

> No offense mate, but if I have to choose between your views on what Rangers
> need and Walter Smith's - ain't no way that ends well for you.


pure diehard Eh.

On Jun 5, 6:43 pm, Mad Max  wrote:
> On Jun 5, 4:41 pm, "Angof"  wrote:
>
> > "littlebhoybri"  wrote in message
>
> >news:8iT1k.133562$UP6.78853@newsfe14.ams2...
>
> > > "HoopsBhoy" wrote in message
> > > He's a less annoying Nacho Novo.
>
> > > Wonder if he'll score against us.
>
> > > Then run away kissing the badge like he did when he scored against them.
>
> > Did he?
>
> you can always spot the ones that never saw him play at the GG
> stadium:-)
>
> http://ifyouknowtheirhistory.blogspot.com
>
> makes great reading, some big person should read it to liam

We'd need terabytes of storage to record your shameful history. ;-)

"HoopsBhoy"  wrote in message 
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On Jun 5, 6:43 pm, Mad Max  wrote:
> On Jun 5, 4:41 pm, "Angof"  wrote:
>
> > "littlebhoybri"  wrote in message
>
> >news:8iT1k.133562$UP6.78853@newsfe14.ams2...
>
> > > "HoopsBhoy" wrote in message
> > > He's a less annoying Nacho Novo.
>
> > > Wonder if he'll score against us.
>
> > > Then run away kissing the badge like he did when he scored against 
> > > them.
>
> > Did he?
>
> you can always spot the ones that never saw him play at the GG
> stadium:-)
>
> http://ifyouknowtheirhistory.blogspot.com
>
> makes great reading, some big person should read it to liam

We'd need terabytes of storage to record your shameful history. ;-)

LOL short memory eh ;-)

"andy"  wrote in message 
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>
> "HoopsBhoy"  wrote in message 
> news:241dcc6a-9c49-403c-a1e0-7dffb53cdc62@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 5, 6:43 pm, Mad Max  wrote:
>> On Jun 5, 4:41 pm, "Angof"  wrote:
>>
>> > "littlebhoybri"  wrote in message
>>
>> >news:8iT1k.133562$UP6.78853@newsfe14.ams2...
>>
>> > > "HoopsBhoy" wrote in message
>> > > He's a less annoying Nacho Novo.
>>
>> > > Wonder if he'll score against us.
>>
>> > > Then run away kissing the badge like he did when he scored against 
>> > > them.
>>
>> > Did he?
>>
>> you can always spot the ones that never saw him play at the GG
>> stadium:-)
>>
>> http://ifyouknowtheirhistory.blogspot.com
>>
>> makes great reading, some big person should read it to liam
>
> We'd need terabytes of storage to record your shameful history. ;-)
>
> LOL short memory eh ;-)

Well he only needs to have a memory from 3 weeks ago to remember Manchester 
:-)

On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 09:05:04 GMT and in uk.sport.football.clubs.rangers,
FishSupper wrote.... 

> 
> "andy"  wrote in message 
> news:nJ-dncNAOM5tM9rVnZ2dnUVZ8uWdnZ2d@bt.com...
>> http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_3652807,00.html
> 
> He's improved since he was with us the first time and he'll provide us
> with the pace and mobility up front that we don't have. I won't be
> applauding him on to the field but I will applaud him off if he does a
> job for us. 

I thought this was Smith preparing himself for the 5+6 rule if it happens. 
Personally i think Boyd and Miller would be a good pairing, as Andy said, 
Miller doing all the running and Boyd poaching in front of goal.

-- 
sme
The obscure we see eventually.  The completely obvious, it seems, takes 
longer.  ~Edward R. Murrow

On Jun 7, 2:02 am, "andy"  wrote:

>
> We'd need terabytes of storage to record your shameful history. ;-)
>
> LOL short memory eh ;-)

Dont you just love this site.


http://ifyouknowtheirhistory.blogspot.com/

child abuse
Riots
stabbings
threats
closed stadium
banned from playing at home after attacking a Rapid Vienna players in
1984
smashing up busses
sectarian and racist songs
supporting terrorism
chasing hearses.
most banning orders in Scotland

thats just the short list.

"Mad Max"  wrote in message 
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On Jun 7, 2:02 am, "andy"  wrote:

>
> We'd need terabytes of storage to record your shameful history. ;-)
>
> LOL short memory eh ;-)

Dont you just love this site.


http://ifyouknowtheirhistory.blogspot.com/

child abuse
Riots
stabbings
threats
closed stadium
banned from playing at home after attacking a Rapid Vienna players in
1984
smashing up busses
sectarian and racist songs
supporting terrorism
chasing hearses.
most banning orders in Scotland

thats just the short list.

And all of it true

"ZB"  wrote in message 
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>
> "andy"  wrote in message 
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>>
>> "HoopsBhoy"  wrote in message 
>> news:241dcc6a-9c49-403c-a1e0-7dffb53cdc62@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jun 5, 6:43 pm, Mad Max  wrote:
>>> On Jun 5, 4:41 pm, "Angof"  wrote:
>>>
>>> > "littlebhoybri"  wrote in message
>>>
>>> >news:8iT1k.133562$UP6.78853@newsfe14.ams2...
>>>
>>> > > "HoopsBhoy" wrote in message
>>> > > He's a less annoying Nacho Novo.
>>>
>>> > > Wonder if he'll score against us.
>>>
>>> > > Then run away kissing the badge like he did when he scored against 
>>> > > them.
>>>
>>> > Did he?
>>>
>>> you can always spot the ones that never saw him play at the GG
>>> stadium:-)
>>>
>>> http://ifyouknowtheirhistory.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> makes great reading, some big person should read it to liam
>>
>> We'd need terabytes of storage to record your shameful history. ;-)
>>
>> LOL short memory eh ;-)
>
> Well he only needs to have a memory from 3 weeks ago to remember 
> Manchester :-)

oh i think Celtic have a much more colourful one ;-)

On Jun 7, 10:44 am, "andy"  wrote:
> "Mad Max"  wrote in message
>
> news:dbbcee8a-c1c5-433a-86d4-70f79a85cf90@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 7, 2:02 am, "andy"  wrote:
>
>
>
> > We'd need terabytes of storage to record your shameful history. ;-)
>
> > LOL short memory eh ;-)
>
> Dont you just love this site.
>
> http://ifyouknowtheirhistory.blogspot.com/
>
> child abuse
> Riots
> stabbings
> threats
> closed stadium
> banned from playing at home after attacking a Rapid Vienna players in
> 1984
> smashing up busses
> sectarian and racist songs
> supporting terrorism
> chasing hearses.
> most banning orders in Scotland
>
> thats just the short list.
>
> And all of it true

yes all true, forgot to add not only were they closed down for one
month, they were not allowed to play in glasgow the same month, still
if you know their history.

"Mad Max"  wrote in message 
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On Jun 7, 10:44 am, "andy"  wrote:
> "Mad Max"  wrote in message
>
> news:dbbcee8a-c1c5-433a-86d4-70f79a85cf90@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 7, 2:02 am, "andy"  wrote:
>
>
>
> > We'd need terabytes of storage to record your shameful history. ;-)
>
> > LOL short memory eh ;-)
>
> Dont you just love this site.
>
> http://ifyouknowtheirhistory.blogspot.com/
>
> child abuse
> Riots
> stabbings
> threats
> closed stadium
> banned from playing at home after attacking a Rapid Vienna players in
> 1984
> smashing up busses
> sectarian and racist songs
> supporting terrorism
> chasing hearses.
> most banning orders in Scotland
>
> thats just the short list.
>
> And all of it true

yes all true, forgot to add not only were they closed down for one
month, they were not allowed to play in glasgow the same month, still
if you know their history.

Is this the one where they are singing about the ra at the Irish centre in 
Newcastle, it is one of the most vile sights I have ever seen. Anyone who 
associates with them are pure scum.

Andy.

"Andy Morrison"  wrote in message 
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>
> "Mad Max"  wrote in message 
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> On Jun 7, 10:44 am, "andy"  wrote:
>> "Mad Max"  wrote in message
>>
>> news:dbbcee8a-c1c5-433a-86d4-70f79a85cf90@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jun 7, 2:02 am, "andy"  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > We'd need terabytes of storage to record your shameful history. ;-)
>>
>> > LOL short memory eh ;-)
>>
>> Dont you just love this site.
>>
>> http://ifyouknowtheirhistory.blogspot.com/
>>
>> child abuse
>> Riots
>> stabbings
>> threats
>> closed stadium
>> banned from playing at home after attacking a Rapid Vienna players in
>> 1984
>> smashing up busses
>> sectarian and racist songs
>> supporting terrorism
>> chasing hearses.
>> most banning orders in Scotland
>>
>> thats just the short list.
>>
>> And all of it true
>
> yes all true, forgot to add not only were they closed down for one
> month, they were not allowed to play in glasgow the same month, still
> if you know their history.
>
> Is this the one where they are singing about the ra at the Irish centre in 
> Newcastle, it is one of the most vile sights I have ever seen. Anyone who 
> associates with them are pure scum.
>
> Andy.
>

Here you go tarriers, fill your boots for the ra.

http://tinyurl.com/565a64

Andy.

On Jun 7, 11:43 am, "Andy Morrison" 
wrote:


Its all there, everything they have denied and more.

i see todays papers have another jolly craicster in court for
sectarian singing and abuse on an airplane.

"sme"  wrote in message 
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> On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 09:05:04 GMT and in uk.sport.football.clubs.rangers,
> FishSupper wrote....
>
>>
>> "andy"  wrote in message
>> news:nJ-dncNAOM5tM9rVnZ2dnUVZ8uWdnZ2d@bt.com...
>>> http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_3652807,00.html
>>
>> He's improved since he was with us the first time and he'll provide us
>> with the pace and mobility up front that we don't have. I won't be
>> applauding him on to the field but I will applaud him off if he does a
>> job for us.
>
> I thought this was Smith preparing himself for the 5+6 rule if it happens.
> Personally i think Boyd and Miller would be a good pairing, as Andy said,
> Miller doing all the running and Boyd poaching in front of goal.
>
> -- 
> sme
> The obscure we see eventually.  The completely obvious, it seems, takes
> longer.  ~Edward R. Murrow

I think you might be right - we'd have one forward who can't run but scores 
and another who can't score but runs. My only niggling concern is that 
signing Miller means that we won't see the end of 4-5-1 anytime soon, since 
his main strength is running at defenses - which would indicate he'd be used 
in a counter-attacking style.

"andy"  wrote in message 
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> "Mad Max"  wrote in message 
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> On Jun 7, 2:02 am, "andy"  wrote:
>
>>
>> We'd need terabytes of storage to record your shameful history. ;-)
>>
>> LOL short memory eh ;-)
>
> Dont you just love this site.
>
>
> http://ifyouknowtheirhistory.blogspot.com/
>
> child abuse
> Riots
> stabbings
> threats
> closed stadium
> banned from playing at home after attacking a Rapid Vienna players in
> 1984
> smashing up busses
> sectarian and racist songs
> supporting terrorism
> chasing hearses.
> most banning orders in Scotland
>
> thats just the short list.
>
> And all of it true

"Child abuse" - dont be a cunt andy.

"FishSupper"  wrote in message 
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> "sme"  wrote in message 
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>> On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 09:05:04 GMT and in uk.sport.football.clubs.rangers,
>> FishSupper wrote....
>>
>>>
>>> "andy"  wrote in message
>>> news:nJ-dncNAOM5tM9rVnZ2dnUVZ8uWdnZ2d@bt.com...
>>>> http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_3652807,00.html
>>>
>>> He's improved since he was with us the first time and he'll provide us
>>> with the pace and mobility up front that we don't have. I won't be
>>> applauding him on to the field but I will applaud him off if he does a
>>> job for us.
>>
>> I thought this was Smith preparing himself for the 5+6 rule if it 
>> happens.
>> Personally i think Boyd and Miller would be a good pairing, as Andy said,
>> Miller doing all the running and Boyd poaching in front of goal.
>>
>> -- 
>> sme
>> The obscure we see eventually.  The completely obvious, it seems, takes
>> longer.  ~Edward R. Murrow
>
> I think you might be right - we'd have one forward who can't run but 
> scores and another who can't score but runs. My only niggling concern is 
> that signing Miller means that we won't see the end of 4-5-1 anytime soon, 
> since his main strength is running at defenses - which would indicate he'd 
> be used in a counter-attacking style.

If Miller is going to be your only 1 up front then youll be lucky to get 
your season goal tally into double figures!!!

JB

On Jun 7, 4:28 pm, "ZB"  wrote:
> "andy"  wrote in message
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Mad Max"  wrote in message
> >news:dbbcee8a-c1c5-433a-86d4-70f79a85cf90@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...> > On Jun 7, 2:02 am, "andy"  wrote:
>
> >> We'd need terabytes of storage to record your shameful history. ;-)
>
> >> LOL short memory eh ;-)
>
> > Dont you just love this site.
>
> >http://ifyouknowtheirhistory.blogspot.com/
>
> > child abuse
> > Riots
> > stabbings
> > threats
> > closed stadium
> > banned from playing at home after attacking a Rapid Vienna players in
> > 1984
> > smashing up busses
> > sectarian and racist songs
> > supporting terrorism
> > chasing hearses.
> > most banning orders in Scotland
>
> > thats just the short list.
>
> > And all of it true
>
> "Child abuse" - dont be a cunt andy.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I'd have Jim and Andy investigated immediately. They are utterly
obsessed with child abuse.

On Jun 7, 4:28 pm, "ZB"  wrote:
> "andy"  wrote in message
>
> news:Oa-dnbteRvKyxdfVnZ2dnUVZ8u-dnZ2d@bt.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Mad Max"  wrote in message
> >news:dbbcee8a-c1c5-433a-86d4-70f79a85cf90@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...> > On Jun 7, 2:02 am, "andy"  wrote:
>
> >> We'd need terabytes of storage to record your shameful history. ;-)
>
> >> LOL short memory eh ;-)
>
> > Dont you just love this site.
>
> >http://ifyouknowtheirhistory.blogspot.com/
>
> > child abuse
> > Riots
> > stabbings
> > threats
> > closed stadium
> > banned from playing at home after attacking a Rapid Vienna players in
> > 1984
> > smashing up busses
> > sectarian and racist songs
> > supporting terrorism
> > chasing hearses.
> > most banning orders in Scotland
>
> > thats just the short list.
>
> > And all of it true
>
> "Child abuse" - dont be a cunt andy.

truth hurts, sweep sweep.

remind me what you think of child brides in islam?

On Jun 8, 11:19 am, HoopsBhoy  wrote:
> On Jun 7, 4:28 pm, "ZB"  wrote:
>
>
>
> > "andy"  wrote in message
>
> >news:Oa-dnbteRvKyxdfVnZ2dnUVZ8u-dnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> > > "Mad Max"  wrote in message
> > >news:dbbcee8a-c1c5-433a-86d4-70f79a85cf90@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com.> > > On Jun 7, 2:02 am, "andy"  wrote:
>
> > >> We'd need terabytes of storage to record your shameful history. ;-)
>
> > >> LOL short memory eh ;-)
>
> > > Dont you just love this site.
>
> > >http://ifyouknowtheirhistory.blogspot.com/
>
> > > child abuse
> > > Riots
> > > stabbings
> > > threats
> > > closed stadium
> > > banned from playing at home after attacking a Rapid Vienna players in
> > > 1984
> > > smashing up busses
> > > sectarian and racist songs
> > > supporting terrorism
> > > chasing hearses.
> > > most banning orders in Scotland
>
> > > thats just the short list.
>
> > > And all of it true
>
> > "Child abuse" - dont be a cunt andy.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I'd have Jim and Andy investigated immediately. They are utterly
> obsessed with child abuse.

please back that up?


was it not covered up at celtic football club and has the vatican not
paid out billions to the children they abused. does islam condone
child brides.

do you condone the cover ups and abuse or do you support that anyone
involved should be locked up along with those that protect them?


you keep sweeping it under the carpet and people like me and books
like darwins will keep highlighting it.

"HoopsBhoy"  wrote in message 
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On Jun 7, 4:28 pm, "ZB"  wrote:
> "andy"  wrote in message
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>
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>
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> > "Mad Max"  wrote in message
> >news:dbbcee8a-c1c5-433a-86d4-70f79a85cf90@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jun 7, 2:02 am, "andy"  wrote:
>
> >> We'd need terabytes of storage to record your shameful history. ;-)
>
> >> LOL short memory eh ;-)
>
> > Dont you just love this site.
>
> >http://ifyouknowtheirhistory.blogspot.com/
>
> > child abuse
> > Riots
> > stabbings
> > threats
> > closed stadium
> > banned from playing at home after attacking a Rapid Vienna players in
> > 1984
> > smashing up busses
> > sectarian and racist songs
> > supporting terrorism
> > chasing hearses.
> > most banning orders in Scotland
>
> > thats just the short list.
>
> > And all of it true
>
> "Child abuse" - dont be a cunt andy.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I'd have Jim and Andy investigated immediately. They are utterly
obsessed with child abuse.

Thats been obvious for a long time the enjoyment Jim gets out of it!

JB

On Jun 8, 8:00 pm, "Jonbhoy"  wrote:
> "HoopsBhoy"  wrote in message
>
> news:877b8ad0-83d1-42fd-80fe-5672d1c9fc6e@k37g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 7, 4:28 pm, "ZB"  wrote:
>
>
>
> > "andy"  wrote in message
>
> >news:Oa-dnbteRvKyxdfVnZ2dnUVZ8u-dnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> > > "Mad Max"  wrote in message
> > >news:dbbcee8a-c1c5-433a-86d4-70f79a85cf90@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com.> > > On Jun 7, 2:02 am, "andy"  wrote:
>
> > >> We'd need terabytes of storage to record your shameful history. ;-)
>
> > >> LOL short memory eh ;-)
>
> > > Dont you just love this site.
>
> > >http://ifyouknowtheirhistory.blogspot.com/
>
> > > child abuse
> > > Riots
> > > stabbings
> > > threats
> > > closed stadium
> > > banned from playing at home after attacking a Rapid Vienna players in
> > > 1984
> > > smashing up busses
> > > sectarian and racist songs
> > > supporting terrorism
> > > chasing hearses.
> > > most banning orders in Scotland
>
> > > thats just the short list.
>
> > > And all of it true
>
> > "Child abuse" - dont be a cunt andy.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> I'd have Jim and Andy investigated immediately. They are utterly
> obsessed with child abuse.
>
> Thats been obvious for a long time the enjoyment Jim gets out of it!
>
> JB

thats right johnny i love showing scum up for what they are but not as
much as you enjoy covering it up, poor wee johnny enjoys covering up
child abuse tell us again johnny that it didnt happen that the court
cases are all fictional.

tell us johnny who are scotlands real shame? as long as the vermin on
this group keep starting trolls about Rangers i will keep highlighting
the truth that you and others want to keep under the carpet, like
water and oil facts dont go on your planet.

typical tarriar.

"andy"  wrote in message
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>
> "Mad Max"  wrote in message 
> news:dbbcee8a-c1c5-433a-86d4-70f79a85cf90@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 7, 2:02 am, "andy"  wrote:
>
>>
>> We'd need terabytes of storage to record your shameful history. ;-)
>>
>> LOL short memory eh ;-)
>
> Dont you just love this site.
>
>
> http://ifyouknowtheirhistory.blogspot.com/
>
> child abuse
> Riots
> stabbings
> threats
> closed stadium
> banned from playing at home after attacking a Rapid Vienna players in
> 1984
> smashing up busses
> sectarian and racist songs
> supporting terrorism
> chasing hearses.
> most banning orders in Scotland
>
> thats just the short list.
>
> And all of it true

Have you met anyone before who "loved" child abuse andy?  Maybe in your job?

On Jun 8, 7:58 pm, Mad Max  wrote:
> On Jun 8, 11:19 am, HoopsBhoy  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 7, 4:28 pm, "ZB"  wrote:
>
> > > "andy"  wrote in message
>
> > >news:Oa-dnbteRvKyxdfVnZ2dnUVZ8u-dnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> > > > "Mad Max"  wrote in message
> > > >news:dbbcee8a-c1c5-433a-86d4-70f79a85cf90@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> > > > On Jun 7, 2:02 am, "andy"  wrote:
>
> > > >> We'd need terabytes of storage to record your shameful history. ;-)> > > >> LOL short memory eh ;-)
>
> > > > Dont you just love this site.
>
> > > >http://ifyouknowtheirhistory.blogspot.com/
>
> > > > child abuse
> > > > Riots
> > > > stabbings
> > > > threats
> > > > closed stadium
> > > > banned from playing at home after attacking a Rapid Vienna players in
> > > > 1984
> > > > smashing up busses
> > > > sectarian and racist songs
> > > > supporting terrorism
> > > > chasing hearses.
> > > > most banning orders in Scotland
>
> > > > thats just the short list.
>
> > > > And all of it true
>
> > > "Child abuse" - dont be a cunt andy.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > I'd have Jim and Andy investigated immediately. They are utterly
> > obsessed with child abuse.
>
> please back that up?
>
> was it not covered up at celtic football club and has the vatican not
> paid out billions to the children they abused. does islam condone
> child brides.
>
> do you condone the cover ups and abuse or do you support that anyone
> involved should be locked up along with those that protect them?
>
> you keep sweeping it under the carpet and people like me and books
> like darwins will keep highlighting it.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You're highlighting it for all the wrong reasons though you pathetic,
bitter cunt. You're no bastion of justice that's for sure.

I see you don't care to mention thd child abuse that went on at
Kincorra. Lets all hear about that Jim.

"andy" wrote:
> "liam67" wrote:
> > "andy" wrote:
> >> "liam67" wrote:
> >> "andy" wrote:
> >> > "liam67" wrote:
> >> > > "andy" wrote:
>
> >> > >>http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_3652807,00.html
>
> >> > > I really like Kenny Miller. I was so happy when he broke his duck
> >> > > against Rioters FC two years ago at Celtic Park. He'll run all day
> >> > > for
> >> > > you too. He might no score any goals mind you, but hey! you can't
> >> > > have
> >> > > everything in a striker... ;)
>
> >> > The only thing I can see wattie using him for is to do all the running
> >> > and
> >> > when his shot at goal bounces off whereever it ends up, he will have
> >> > boyd
> >> > to
> >> > tuck it away.
>
> >> > IMO this is a step backwards, we have better than him already.
>
> >> Maybe, but I think he might end up doing you a turn. I'll no' like him
> >> so much if he does tho'...;)
>
> >> I have to agree he may well fit into what smiths vision is, however he
> >> has
> >> been an abject failure at CP and at Derby, but granted he was surrounded
> >> by
> >> shite at Derby.
> >> He did very well at wolves and was adored down there, and he didnt do too
> >> badly when he was at Rangers before that and was excellent at Hibs.
>
> > He seems a popular players where ever he goes. (Contrast also with
> > Cousin or Boyd who don't seem interested when playing). There is
> > Celtic web site just now that it discussing if everyone likes Kenny
> > Miller (Paul67 on QuickNews), and alot of them seem to like him. But
> > supposedly you were singing "You can stick your Kenny Miller up Your
> > Arse" at the Cup Final so that might have something to do with why we
> > all like him. Apparently The Rangers Supporters Trust is telling
> > people that rumours about Miller started spreading in Piccadilly
> > Gardens before the Uefa Cup Final..;)
>
> >> Just on a sidenote, rumours have it that Scott Brown wants out of CP??
> >> heard
> >> anything?
>
> > I heard there was a disagreement over a financial payment but it's
> > probably just a rumour. Barry Robson is the new Scott Brown
> > anyway.. ;)
>
> > btw out of interest, where did you hear the rumour? I'm not anally
> > looking for proof here I'm just interested.
>
> Just some mates were talking about it, all bluenoses BTW

Do your mates "love" child abuse too andy?

On Jun 8, 9:37 pm, HoopsBhoy  wrote:
> On Jun 8, 7:58 pm, Mad Max  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 8, 11:19 am, HoopsBhoy  wrote:
>
> > > On Jun 7, 4:28 pm, "ZB"  wrote:
>
> > > > "andy"  wrote in message
>
> > > >news:Oa-dnbteRvKyxdfVnZ2dnUVZ8u-dnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> > > > > "Mad Max"  wrote in message
> > > > >news:dbbcee8a-c1c5-433a-86d4-70f79a85cf90@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > On Jun 7, 2:02 am, "andy"  wrote:
>
> > > > >> We'd need terabytes of storage to record your shameful history. ;> > > > >> LOL short memory eh ;-)
>
> > > > > Dont you just love this site.
>
> > > > >http://ifyouknowtheirhistory.blogspot.com/
>
> > > > > child abuse
> > > > > Riots
> > > > > stabbings
> > > > > threats
> > > > > closed stadium
> > > > > banned from playing at home after attacking a Rapid Vienna players in
> > > > > 1984
> > > > > smashing up busses
> > > > > sectarian and racist songs
> > > > > supporting terrorism
> > > > > chasing hearses.
> > > > > most banning orders in Scotland
>
> > > > > thats just the short list.
>
> > > > > And all of it true
>
> > > > "Child abuse" - dont be a cunt andy.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > I'd have Jim and Andy investigated immediately. They are utterly
> > > obsessed with child abuse.
>
> > please back that up?
>
> > was it not covered up at celtic football club and has the vatican not
> > paid out billions to the children they abused. does islam condone
> > child brides.
>
> > do you condone the cover ups and abuse or do you support that anyone
> > involved should be locked up along with those that protect them?
>
> > you keep sweeping it under the carpet and people like me and books
> > like darwins will keep highlighting it.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> You're highlighting it for all the wrong reasons though you pathetic,
> bitter cunt. You're no bastion of justice that's for sure.

so you cant back it up, maybe you can explain what the right reasons
are?
>
> I see you don't care to mention thd child abuse that went on at
> Kincorra. Lets all hear about that Jim.

why dont you, then you can tell me what it has to do with rangers?

> 
> Do your mates "love" child abuse too andy?

What are you on about, is this some sick fantasy of yours?

"ZB"  wrote in message 
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>
> "andy"  wrote in message 
> news:Oa-dnbteRvKyxdfVnZ2dnUVZ8u-dnZ2d@bt.com...
>>
>> "Mad Max"  wrote in message 
>> news:dbbcee8a-c1c5-433a-86d4-70f79a85cf90@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jun 7, 2:02 am, "andy"  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> We'd need terabytes of storage to record your shameful history. ;-)
>>>
>>> LOL short memory eh ;-)
>>
>> Dont you just love this site.
>>
>>
>> http://ifyouknowtheirhistory.blogspot.com/
>>
>> child abuse
>> Riots
>> stabbings
>> threats
>> closed stadium
>> banned from playing at home after attacking a Rapid Vienna players in
>> 1984
>> smashing up busses
>> sectarian and racist songs
>> supporting terrorism
>> chasing hearses.
>> most banning orders in Scotland
>>
>> thats just the short list.
>>
>> And all of it true
>
> "Child abuse" - dont be a cunt andy.
>

sick...but true.

>>
>> And all of it true
>
> Have you met anyone before who "loved" child abuse andy?  Maybe in your 
> job?
>

Yup I have met a few, I also know of a few who walk the steets as if they 
have done nothing wrong. I have met abused people who abuse others as they 
get older, they think it is normal as they have been brainwashed when a 
child into believing its normal.
I also know people who have even tried to deny it happened, cover it up too 
protect their partners and too save face for the family.
I have also met plenty of people who have suffered at the hands of child 
abusers, and seen the toll it takes on their lives, something that will 
never go away, totally soul destroying.

The thing is Liam, it seems for every child abuser, their are people in 
their family who will look to cover it up, even if they have abused their 
own or the children entrusted to their care. And that to me is dangerous.
People who sweep dirt under carpets always get found out. People with money 
and influence often have friends in high places who can try to eradicate it 
from history.

At the end of the day, anyone who lnows of child abuse happening, be it in 
work, home or anywhere else and choose to cover it up for the sake of 
embarressment are twisted, and in my view to help the sanity of the poor 
people afflicted by the abuse, should be jailed for life, any club, group or 
otherwise should also be closed down or made to issue a full public apology 
and make a donation to charity equal to the size of that club or group.

On Jun 8, 9:49 pm, Mad Max  wrote:
> On Jun 8, 9:37 pm, HoopsBhoy  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 8, 7:58 pm, Mad Max  wrote:
>
> > > On Jun 8, 11:19 am, HoopsBhoy  wrote:
>
> > > > On Jun 7, 4:28 pm, "ZB"  wrote:
>
> > > > > "andy"  wrote in message
>
> > > > >news:Oa-dnbteRvKyxdfVnZ2dnUVZ8u-dnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> > > > > > "Mad Max"  wrote in message
> > > > > >news:dbbcee8a-c1c5-433a-86d4-70f79a85cf90@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > > On Jun 7, 2:02 am, "andy"  wrote:
>
> > > > > >> We'd need terabytes of storage to record your shameful history.> > > > > >> LOL short memory eh ;-)
>
> > > > > > Dont you just love this site.
>
> > > > > >http://ifyouknowtheirhistory.blogspot.com/
>
> > > > > > child abuse
> > > > > > Riots
> > > > > > stabbings
> > > > > > threats
> > > > > > closed stadium
> > > > > > banned from playing at home after attacking a Rapid Vienna players in
> > > > > > 1984
> > > > > > smashing up busses
> > > > > > sectarian and racist songs
> > > > > > supporting terrorism
> > > > > > chasing hearses.
> > > > > > most banning orders in Scotland
>
> > > > > > thats just the short list.
>
> > > > > > And all of it true
>
> > > > > "Child abuse" - dont be a cunt andy.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > I'd have Jim and Andy investigated immediately. They are utterly
> > > > obsessed with child abuse.
>
> > > please back that up?
>
> > > was it not covered up at celtic football club and has the vatican not
> > > paid out billions to the children they abused. does islam condone
> > > child brides.
>
> > > do you condone the cover ups and abuse or do you support that anyone
> > > involved should be locked up along with those that protect them?
>
> > > you keep sweeping it under the carpet and people like me and books
> > > like darwins will keep highlighting it.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > You're highlighting it for all the wrong reasons though you pathetic,
> > bitter cunt. You're no bastion of justice that's for sure.
>
> so you cant back it up, maybe you can explain what the right reasons
> are?
>
>
>
> > I see you don't care to mention thd child abuse that went on at
> > Kincorra. Lets all hear about that Jim.
>
> why dont you, then you can tell me what it has to do with rangers?- Hide quoted text -

Well, Protestant Rangers fans were involved.

Do you only care about child abuse if it involves a football club or
the Catholic church?

Well, Protestant Rangers fans were involved.

Do you only care about child abuse if it involves a football club or
the Catholic church?

Can you please find me a report that says Rangers fans were involved?

Fuck me, before we know it Hitler will have been chairman in 1939.....

"andy"  wrote in message
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>
>>>
>>> And all of it true
>>
>> Have you met anyone before who "loved" child abuse andy?  Maybe in your 
>> job?
>>
>
> Yup I have met a few, I also know of a few who walk the steets as if they 
> have done nothing wrong. I have met abused people who abuse others as they 
> get older, they think it is normal as they have been brainwashed when a 
> child into believing its normal.
> I also know people who have even tried to deny it happened, cover it up 
> too protect their partners and too save face for the family.
> I have also met plenty of people who have suffered at the hands of child 
> abusers, and seen the toll it takes on their lives, something that will 
> never go away, totally soul destroying.
>
> The thing is Liam, it seems for every child abuser, their are people in 
> their family who will look to cover it up, even if they have abused their 
> own or the children entrusted to their care. And that to me is dangerous.
> People who sweep dirt under carpets always get found out. People with 
> money and influence often have friends in high places who can try to 
> eradicate it from history.
>
> At the end of the day, anyone who lnows of child abuse happening, be it in 
> work, home or anywhere else and choose to cover it up for the sake of 
> embarressment are twisted, and in my view to help the sanity of the poor 
> people afflicted by the abuse, should be jailed for life, any club, group 
> or otherwise should also be closed down or made to issue a full public 
> apology and make a donation to charity equal to the size of that club or 
> group.

You could have saved 10 minutes there if you had just wrote Big Jock 
Knew...how do you feel about the BJK campaign?

"andy"  wrote in message
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>
>>
>> Do your mates "love" child abuse too andy?
>
> What are you on about, is this some sick fantasy of yours?

You wrote you "loved" a web site about child abuse.

news:Oa-dnbteRvKyxdfVnZ2dnUVZ8u-dnZ2d@bt.com

"liam*"  wrote in message 
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> "andy"  wrote in message
> news:gcSdnd5BAPtWz9HVnZ2dnUVZ8hmdnZ2d@bt.com...
>>
>>>>
>>>> And all of it true
>>>
>>> Have you met anyone before who "loved" child abuse andy?  Maybe in your 
>>> job?
>>>
>>
>> Yup I have met a few, I also know of a few who walk the steets as if they 
>> have done nothing wrong. I have met abused people who abuse others as 
>> they get older, they think it is normal as they have been brainwashed 
>> when a child into believing its normal.
>> I also know people who have even tried to deny it happened, cover it up 
>> too protect their partners and too save face for the family.
>> I have also met plenty of people who have suffered at the hands of child 
>> abusers, and seen the toll it takes on their lives, something that will 
>> never go away, totally soul destroying.
>>
>> The thing is Liam, it seems for every child abuser, their are people in 
>> their family who will look to cover it up, even if they have abused their 
>> own or the children entrusted to their care. And that to me is dangerous.
>> People who sweep dirt under carpets always get found out. People with 
>> money and influence often have friends in high places who can try to 
>> eradicate it from history.
>>
>> At the end of the day, anyone who lnows of child abuse happening, be it 
>> in work, home or anywhere else and choose to cover it up for the sake of 
>> embarressment are twisted, and in my view to help the sanity of the poor 
>> people afflicted by the abuse, should be jailed for life, any club, group 
>> or otherwise should also be closed down or made to issue a full public 
>> apology and make a donation to charity equal to the size of that club or 
>> group.
>
> You could have saved 10 minutes there if you had just wrote Big Jock 
> Knew...how do you feel about the BJK campaign?


Now Liam, I see you do not reply too anything I wrote their, instead you 
asked me about Jock Stein.
Pretty sad in my view and any other sensible person on these groups who read 
this thread and see you ask me if I have ever met anyone who "loved" child 
abuse, see i give you a detailed response and all you can do is talk about 
Jock Stein who has not been mentioned thus far until you posted.

But to answer your question....
Yes Celtic FC have a history of sex abuse at the club, it is well documented 
and I think they should make public apolgies etc, as for how do I feel about 
the BJK campaign, well TBH I dont know the truth and if I did then I would 
state what I knew was the truth, either he did or he didnt know, and we will 
never know the correct answer to that one so I sit on the fence as I dont 
know the answer to the claims he did know or he didnt know.

I hope this answers your strange timing to ask such a question about BJ, and 
may I ask you one or two since i do you the courtesy of answering your 
questions.

What punishment would you see fit for a club who employs someone then later 
discovers he is commiting acts against boys who are part of that club?
What compensation should be paid by that club for the sexual abuse of a 
child?
Should that club be allowed to continue to exist and if so why?
If that club has never made any apologies, compensation or investigated the 
matter with an independant body to ensure it wasnt more commonplace or that 
people in certain positions didnt know, what actions should in your view be 
taken?

"Club" can mean anything from football teams to any organisation.

Simple questions, I await your reply.

"liam*"  wrote in message 
news:484c606f$1_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
> "andy"  wrote in message
> news:y4-dnRImYs8I09HVnZ2dnUVZ8u2dnZ2d@bt.com...
>>
>>>
>>> Do your mates "love" child abuse too andy?
>>
>> What are you on about, is this some sick fantasy of yours?
>
> You wrote you "loved" a web site about child abuse.
>
> news:Oa-dnbteRvKyxdfVnZ2dnUVZ8u-dnZ2d@bt.com
>

error 430, no such article found???

On Jun 8, 11:03 pm, HoopsBhoy  wrote:
> On Jun 8, 9:49 pm, Mad Max  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 8, 9:37 pm, HoopsBhoy  wrote:
>
> > > On Jun 8, 7:58 pm, Mad Max  wrote:
>
> > > > On Jun 8, 11:19 am, HoopsBhoy  wrote:
>
> > > > > On Jun 7, 4:28 pm, "ZB"  wrote:
>
> > > > > > "andy"  wrote in message
>
> > > > > >news:Oa-dnbteRvKyxdfVnZ2dnUVZ8u-dnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> > > > > > > "Mad Max"  wrote in message
> > > > > > >news:dbbcee8a-c1c5-433a-86d4-70f79a85cf90@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> > > > > > > On Jun 7, 2:02 am, "andy"  wrote:
>
> > > > > > >> We'd need terabytes of storage to record your shameful history. ;-)
>
> > > > > > >> LOL short memory eh ;-)
>
> > > > > > > Dont you just love this site.
>
> > > > > > >http://ifyouknowtheirhistory.blogspot.com/
>
> > > > > > > child abuse
> > > > > > > Riots
> > > > > > > stabbings
> > > > > > > threats
> > > > > > > closed stadium
> > > > > > > banned from playing at home after attacking a Rapid Vienna players in
> > > > > > > 1984
> > > > > > > smashing up busses
> > > > > > > sectarian and racist songs
> > > > > > > supporting terrorism
> > > > > > > chasing hearses.
> > > > > > > most banning orders in Scotland
>
> > > > > > > thats just the short list.
>
> > > > > > > And all of it true
>
> > > > > > "Child abuse" - dont be a cunt andy.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > I'd have Jim and Andy investigated immediately. They are utterly
> > > > > obsessed with child abuse.
>
> > > > please back that up?
>
> > > > was it not covered up at celtic football club and has the vatican not
> > > > paid out billions to the children they abused. does islam condone
> > > > child brides.
>
> > > > do you condone the cover ups and abuse or do you support that anyone> > > > involved should be locked up along with those that protect them?
>
> > > > you keep sweeping it under the carpet and people like me and books
> > > > like darwins will keep highlighting it.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > You're highlighting it for all the wrong reasons though you pathetic,
> > > bitter cunt. You're no bastion of justice that's for sure.
>
> > so you cant back it up, maybe you can explain what the right reasons
> > are?
>
> > > I see you don't care to mention thd child abuse that went on at
> > > Kincorra. Lets all hear about that Jim.
>
> > why dont you, then you can tell me what it has to do with rangers?- Hide quoted text -
>
> Well, Protestant Rangers fans were involved.
>
> Do you only care about child abuse if it involves a football club or
> the Catholic church?

, please back it up?

On Jun 8, 11:40 pm, "liam*"  wrote:

>
> You could have saved 10 minutes there if you had just wrote Big Jock
> Knew...how do you feel about the BJK campaign?

he did know and the campaign did what it set out todo.

"andy" wrote:
> "liam*" wrote:
> > "andy"  wrote in message
> >news:gcSdnd5BAPtWz9HVnZ2dnUVZ8hmdnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> >>>> And all of it true
>
> >>> Have you met anyone before who "loved" child abuse andy?  Maybe in your
> >>> job?
>
> >> Yup I have met a few, I also know of a few who walk the steets as if they
> >> have done nothing wrong. I have met abused people who abuse others as
> >> they get older, they think it is normal as they have been brainwashed
> >> when a child into believing its normal.
> >> I also know people who have even tried to deny it happened, cover it up> >> too protect their partners and too save face for the family.
> >> I have also met plenty of people who have suffered at the hands of child
> >> abusers, and seen the toll it takes on their lives, something that will> >> never go away, totally soul destroying.
>
> >> The thing is Liam, it seems for every child abuser, their are people in> >> their family who will look to cover it up, even if they have abused their
> >> own or the children entrusted to their care. And that to me is dangerous.
> >> People who sweep dirt under carpets always get found out. People with
> >> money and influence often have friends in high places who can try to
> >> eradicate it from history.
>
> >> At the end of the day, anyone who lnows of child abuse happening, be it> >> in work, home or anywhere else and choose to cover it up for the sake of
> >> embarressment are twisted, and in my view to help the sanity of the poor
> >> people afflicted by the abuse, should be jailed for life, any club, group
> >> or otherwise should also be closed down or made to issue a full public
> >> apology and make a donation to charity equal to the size of that club or
> >> group.
>
> > You could have saved 10 minutes there if you had just wrote Big Jock
> > Knew...how do you feel about the BJK campaign?
>
> Now Liam, I see you do not reply too anything I wrote their, instead you
> asked me about Jock Stein.
> Pretty sad in my view and any other sensible person on these groups who read
> this thread and see you ask me if I have ever met anyone who "loved" child> abuse, see i give you a detailed response and all you can do is talk about> Jock Stein who has not been mentioned thus far until you posted.
>
> But to answer your question....
> Yes Celtic FC have a history of sex abuse at the club, it is well documented
> and I think they should make public apolgies etc, as for how do I feel about
> the BJK campaign, well TBH I dont know the truth and if I did then I would> state what I knew was the truth, either he did or he didnt know, and we will
> never know the correct answer to that one so I sit on the fence as I dont
> know the answer to the claims he did know or he didnt know.
>
> I hope this answers your strange timing to ask such a question about BJ, and
> may I ask you one or two since i do you the courtesy of answering your
> questions.
>
> What punishment would you see fit for a club who employs someone then later
> discovers he is commiting acts against boys who are part of that club?
> What compensation should be paid by that club for the sexual abuse of a
> child?
> Should that club be allowed to continue to exist and if so why?
> If that club has never made any apologies, compensation or investigated the
> matter with an independant body to ensure it wasnt more commonplace or that
> people in certain positions didnt know, what actions should in your view be
> taken?
>
> "Club" can mean anything from football teams to any organisation.
>
> Simple questions, I await your reply.

My reply is more pertinent to the original question. Anyone who loves
web sites about child abuse is a social deviant. Alternatively, ask
for a clinical opinion from a psychiatric consultant how they view
people that love web sites about child abuse. Maybe not though, since
you wouldn't want to lose your job.

"liam67"  wrote in message 
news:8f487ed2-5d69-4877-af6c-b01026cf4fa9@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
"andy" wrote:
> "liam*" wrote:
> > "andy"  wrote in message
> >news:gcSdnd5BAPtWz9HVnZ2dnUVZ8hmdnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> >>>> And all of it true
>
> >>> Have you met anyone before who "loved" child abuse andy? Maybe in your
> >>> job?
>
> >> Yup I have met a few, I also know of a few who walk the steets as if 
> >> they
> >> have done nothing wrong. I have met abused people who abuse others as
> >> they get older, they think it is normal as they have been brainwashed
> >> when a child into believing its normal.
> >> I also know people who have even tried to deny it happened, cover it up
> >> too protect their partners and too save face for the family.
> >> I have also met plenty of people who have suffered at the hands of 
> >> child
> >> abusers, and seen the toll it takes on their lives, something that will
> >> never go away, totally soul destroying.
>
> >> The thing is Liam, it seems for every child abuser, their are people in
> >> their family who will look to cover it up, even if they have abused 
> >> their
> >> own or the children entrusted to their care. And that to me is 
> >> dangerous.
> >> People who sweep dirt under carpets always get found out. People with
> >> money and influence often have friends in high places who can try to
> >> eradicate it from history.
>
> >> At the end of the day, anyone who lnows of child abuse happening, be it
> >> in work, home or anywhere else and choose to cover it up for the sake 
> >> of
> >> embarressment are twisted, and in my view to help the sanity of the 
> >> poor
> >> people afflicted by the abuse, should be jailed for life, any club, 
> >> group
> >> or otherwise should also be closed down or made to issue a full public
> >> apology and make a donation to charity equal to the size of that club 
> >> or
> >> group.
>
> > You could have saved 10 minutes there if you had just wrote Big Jock
> > Knew...how do you feel about the BJK campaign?
>
> Now Liam, I see you do not reply too anything I wrote their, instead you
> asked me about Jock Stein.
> Pretty sad in my view and any other sensible person on these groups who 
> read
> this thread and see you ask me if I have ever met anyone who "loved" child
> abuse, see i give you a detailed response and all you can do is talk about
> Jock Stein who has not been mentioned thus far until you posted.
>
> But to answer your question....
> Yes Celtic FC have a history of sex abuse at the club, it is well 
> documented
> and I think they should make public apolgies etc, as for how do I feel 
> about
> the BJK campaign, well TBH I dont know the truth and if I did then I would
> state what I knew was the truth, either he did or he didnt know, and we 
> will
> never know the correct answer to that one so I sit on the fence as I dont
> know the answer to the claims he did know or he didnt know.
>
> I hope this answers your strange timing to ask such a question about BJ, 
> and
> may I ask you one or two since i do you the courtesy of answering your
> questions.
>
> What punishment would you see fit for a club who employs someone then 
> later
> discovers he is commiting acts against boys who are part of that club?
> What compensation should be paid by that club for the sexual abuse of a
> child?
> Should that club be allowed to continue to exist and if so why?
> If that club has never made any apologies, compensation or investigated 
> the
> matter with an independant body to ensure it wasnt more commonplace or 
> that
> people in certain positions didnt know, what actions should in your view 
> be
> taken?
>
> "Club" can mean anything from football teams to any organisation.
>
> Simple questions, I await your reply.

My reply is more pertinent to the original question. Anyone who loves
web sites about child abuse is a social deviant. Alternatively, ask
for a clinical opinion from a psychiatric consultant how they view
people that love web sites about child abuse. Maybe not though, since
you wouldn't want to lose your job.

You fail to answer the questions again Liam, any decent man with an ounce of 
intelligence could have answered them.
Please answer them now.
Oh and heres another question for you, what would you say would be a 
suitable punishment for Celtic if BJ did know? What if it came out that he 
actually DID??

P.s. it's consultant psychiatrist...do you need a phone number as trying to 
make silly idle threats about my employment wont get you anywhere. That 
message does not even exist. Delusional

"andy"  wrote in message 
news:F_2dnQbfWMc209HVnZ2dnUVZ8srinZ2d@bt.com...
>
> "ZB"  wrote in message 
> news:6avnpgF38a8iuU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "andy"  wrote in message 
>> news:Oa-dnbteRvKyxdfVnZ2dnUVZ8u-dnZ2d@bt.com...
>>>
>>> "Mad Max"  wrote in message 
>>> news:dbbcee8a-c1c5-433a-86d4-70f79a85cf90@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Jun 7, 2:02 am, "andy"  wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> We'd need terabytes of storage to record your shameful history. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> LOL short memory eh ;-)
>>>
>>> Dont you just love this site.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://ifyouknowtheirhistory.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>> child abuse
>>> Riots
>>> stabbings
>>> threats
>>> closed stadium
>>> banned from playing at home after attacking a Rapid Vienna players in
>>> 1984
>>> smashing up busses
>>> sectarian and racist songs
>>> supporting terrorism
>>> chasing hearses.
>>> most banning orders in Scotland
>>>
>>> thats just the short list.
>>>
>>> And all of it true
>>
>> "Child abuse" - dont be a cunt andy.
>>
>
> sick...but true.

Using child abuse for point scoring. Truly despicable, expect it from jim 
but not from you.

What a sad cunt with the blog, obviously hates Celtic far more than he loves 
the Huns.

On Jun 9, 12:07 am, liam67  wrote:
> "andy" wrote:
> > "liam*" wrote:
> > > "andy"  wrote in message
> > >news:gcSdnd5BAPtWz9HVnZ2dnUVZ8hmdnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> > >>>> And all of it true
>
> > >>> Have you met anyone before who "loved" child abuse andy?  Maybe in your
> > >>> job?
>
> > >> Yup I have met a few, I also know of a few who walk the steets as if they
> > >> have done nothing wrong. I have met abused people who abuse others as> > >> they get older, they think it is normal as they have been brainwashed> > >> when a child into believing its normal.
> > >> I also know people who have even tried to deny it happened, cover it up
> > >> too protect their partners and too save face for the family.
> > >> I have also met plenty of people who have suffered at the hands of child
> > >> abusers, and seen the toll it takes on their lives, something that will
> > >> never go away, totally soul destroying.
>
> > >> The thing is Liam, it seems for every child abuser, their are people in
> > >> their family who will look to cover it up, even if they have abused their
> > >> own or the children entrusted to their care. And that to me is dangerous.
> > >> People who sweep dirt under carpets always get found out. People with> > >> money and influence often have friends in high places who can try to
> > >> eradicate it from history.
>
> > >> At the end of the day, anyone who lnows of child abuse happening, be it
> > >> in work, home or anywhere else and choose to cover it up for the sake of
> > >> embarressment are twisted, and in my view to help the sanity of the poor
> > >> people afflicted by the abuse, should be jailed for life, any club, group
> > >> or otherwise should also be closed down or made to issue a full public
> > >> apology and make a donation to charity equal to the size of that club or
> > >> group.
>
> > > You could have saved 10 minutes there if you had just wrote Big Jock
> > > Knew...how do you feel about the BJK campaign?
>
> > Now Liam, I see you do not reply too anything I wrote their, instead you> > asked me about Jock Stein.
> > Pretty sad in my view and any other sensible person on these groups who read
> > this thread and see you ask me if I have ever met anyone who "loved" child
> > abuse, see i give you a detailed response and all you can do is talk about
> > Jock Stein who has not been mentioned thus far until you posted.
>
> > But to answer your question....
> > Yes Celtic FC have a history of sex abuse at the club, it is well documented
> > and I think they should make public apolgies etc, as for how do I feel about
> > the BJK campaign, well TBH I dont know the truth and if I did then I would
> > state what I knew was the truth, either he did or he didnt know, and we will
> > never know the correct answer to that one so I sit on the fence as I dont
> > know the answer to the claims he did know or he didnt know.
>
> > I hope this answers your strange timing to ask such a question about BJ, and
> > may I ask you one or two since i do you the courtesy of answering your
> > questions.
>
> > What punishment would you see fit for a club who employs someone then later
> > discovers he is commiting acts against boys who are part of that club?
> > What compensation should be paid by that club for the sexual abuse of a
> > child?
> > Should that club be allowed to continue to exist and if so why?
> > If that club has never made any apologies, compensation or investigated the
> > matter with an independant body to ensure it wasnt more commonplace or that
> > people in certain positions didnt know, what actions should in your view be
> > taken?
>
> > "Club" can mean anything from football teams to any organisation.
>
> > Simple questions, I await your reply.
>
> My reply is more pertinent to the original question. Anyone who loves
> web sites about child abuse is a social deviant. Alternatively, ask
> for a clinical opinion from a psychiatric consultant how they view
> people that love web sites about child abuse. Maybe not though, since
> you wouldn't want to lose your job.

would you care to back up your libel posting?

news:Ba-enbteLvKyxdfVnZ2dnUVZ8u-dnZ2d@tiscali.com

disgusting Liam, your sick

"andy"  wrote in message 
news:ZPqdnaNka8Rk_tHVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> "liam*"  wrote in message 
> news:484c5fca$1_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>> "andy"  wrote in message
>> news:gcSdnd5BAPtWz9HVnZ2dnUVZ8hmdnZ2d@bt.com...
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And all of it true
>>>>
>>>> Have you met anyone before who "loved" child abuse andy?  Maybe in your 
>>>> job?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yup I have met a few, I also know of a few who walk the steets as if 
>>> they have done nothing wrong. I have met abused people who abuse others 
>>> as they get older, they think it is normal as they have been brainwashed 
>>> when a child into believing its normal.
>>> I also know people who have even tried to deny it happened, cover it up 
>>> too protect their partners and too save face for the family.
>>> I have also met plenty of people who have suffered at the hands of child 
>>> abusers, and seen the toll it takes on their lives, something that will 
>>> never go away, totally soul destroying.
>>>
>>> The thing is Liam, it seems for every child abuser, their are people in 
>>> their family who will look to cover it up, even if they have abused 
>>> their own or the children entrusted to their care. And that to me is 
>>> dangerous.
>>> People who sweep dirt under carpets always get found out. People with 
>>> money and influence often have friends in high places who can try to 
>>> eradicate it from history.
>>>
>>> At the end of the day, anyone who lnows of child abuse happening, be it 
>>> in work, home or anywhere else and choose to cover it up for the sake of 
>>> embarressment are twisted, and in my view to help the sanity of the poor 
>>> people afflicted by the abuse, should be jailed for life, any club, 
>>> group or otherwise should also be closed down or made to issue a full 
>>> public apology and make a donation to charity equal to the size of that 
>>> club or group.
>>
>> You could have saved 10 minutes there if you had just wrote Big Jock 
>> Knew...how do you feel about the BJK campaign?
>
>
> Now Liam, I see you do not reply too anything I wrote their, instead you 
> asked me about Jock Stein.
> Pretty sad in my view and any other sensible person on these groups who 
> read this thread and see you ask me if I have ever met anyone who "loved" 
> child abuse, see i give you a detailed response and all you can do is talk 
> about Jock Stein who has not been mentioned thus far until you posted.
>
> But to answer your question....
> Yes Celtic FC have a history of sex abuse at the club, it is well 
> documented and I think they should make public apolgies etc,

That is a complete lie. The child abuse took place at Celtic Boys Club which 
has nothing to do with Celtic Football Club. I think you should make an 
apology for making a complete cunt of it and yourself.

"Mad Max"  wrote in message 
news:be830593-cadf-4cdb-9340-b8875db69576@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 9, 12:07 am, liam67  wrote:
> "andy" wrote:
> > "liam*" wrote:
> > > "andy"  wrote in message
> > >news:gcSdnd5BAPtWz9HVnZ2dnUVZ8hmdnZ2d@bt.com...
>
> > >>>> And all of it true
>
> > >>> Have you met anyone before who "loved" child abuse andy? Maybe in 
> > >>> your
> > >>> job?
>
> > >> Yup I have met a few, I also know of a few who walk the steets as if 
> > >> they
> > >> have done nothing wrong. I have met abused people who abuse others as
> > >> they get older, they think it is normal as they have been brainwashed
> > >> when a child into believing its normal.
> > >> I also know people who have even tried to deny it happened, cover it 
> > >> up
> > >> too protect their partners and too save face for the family.
> > >> I have also met plenty of people who have suffered at the hands of 
> > >> child
> > >> abusers, and seen the toll it takes on their lives, something that 
> > >> will
> > >> never go away, totally soul destroying.
>
> > >> The thing is Liam, it seems for every child abuser, their are people 
> > >> in
> > >> their family who will look to cover it up, even if they have abused 
> > >> their
> > >> own or the children entrusted to their care. And that to me is 
> > >> dangerous.
> > >> People who sweep dirt under carpets always get found out. People with
> > >> money and influence often have friends in high places who can try to
> > >> eradicate it from history.
>
> > >> At the end of the day, anyone who lnows of child abuse happening, be 
> > >> it
> > >> in work, home or anywhere else and choose to cover it up for the sake 
> > >> of
> > >> embarressment are twisted, and in my view to help the sanity of the 
> > >> poor
> > >> people afflicted by the abuse, should be jailed for life, any club, 
> > >> group
> > >> or otherwise should also be closed down or made to issue a full 
> > >> public
> > >> apology and make a donation to charity equal to the size of that club 
> > >> or
> > >> group.
>
> > > You could have saved 10 minutes there if you had just wrote Big Jock
> > > Knew...how do you feel about the BJK campaign?
>
> > Now Liam, I see you do not reply too anything I wrote their, instead you
> > asked me about Jock Stein.
> > Pretty sad in my view and any other sensible person on these groups who 
> > read
> > this thread and see you ask me if I have ever met anyone who "loved" 
> > child
> > abuse, see i give you a detailed response and all you can do is talk 
> > about
> > Jock Stein who has not been mentioned thus far until you posted.
>
> > But to answer your question....
> > Yes Celtic FC have a history of sex abuse at the club, it is well 
> > documented
> > and I think they should make public apolgies etc, as for how do I feel 
> > about
> > the BJK campaign, well TBH I dont know the truth and if I did then I 
> > would
> > state what I knew was the truth, either he did or he didnt know, and we 
> > will
> > never know the correct answer to that one so I sit on the fence as I 
> > dont
> > know the answer to the claims he did know or he didnt know.
>
> > I hope this answers your strange timing to ask such a question about BJ, 
> > and
> > may I ask you one or two since i do you the courtesy of answering your
> > questions.
>
> > What punishment would you see fit for a club who employs someone then 
> > later
> > discovers he is commiting acts against boys who are part of that club?
> > What compensation should be paid by that club for the sexual abuse of a
> > child?
> > Should that club be allowed to continue to exist and if so why?
> > If that club has never made any apologies, compensation or investigated 
> > the
> > matter with an independant body to ensure it wasnt more commonplace or 
> > that
> > people in certain positions didnt know, what actions should in your view 
> > be
> > taken?
>
> > "Club" can mean anything from football teams to any organisation.
>
> > Simple questions, I await your reply.
>
> My reply is more pertinent to the original question. Anyone who loves
> web sites about child abuse is a social deviant. Alternatively, ask
> for a clinical opinion from a psychiatric consultant how they view
> people that love web sites about child abuse. Maybe not though, since
> you wouldn't want to lose your job.

would you care to back up your libel posting?

I suggest he does

>
> That is a complete lie. The child abuse took place at Celtic Boys Club 
> which has nothing to do with Celtic Football Club. I think you should make 
> an apology for making a complete cunt of it and yourself.
>

WTF are you off your conkors
http://www.thecelticboysclub.co.uk/pastpresidents.htm

Looks like Celtic to me?