Called off next week.

lol. :D

After biting an addled Gers fan.

http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2008/05/rangersdogAP_450x250.jpg

On 16 May, 20:14, ijqwertyu...@googlemail.com wrote:
> After biting an addled Gers fan.
>
> http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2008/05/rangersdogAP_450x250.jpg

Even better mate...

http://tinyurl.com/3gplep

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> After biting an addled Gers fan.
>
> http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2008/05/rangersdogAP_450x250.jpg

On the guy's t-shirt is says "Nakamura's dog eat my leg."

Cut and paste from http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7405591.stm

Manchester City Council have already said the Champions League final would
not now be shown on big screens in Manchester. Ex-Manchester United player
Albert Scanlon, one of the famous "Busby Babes" team of the 1950s, said
thousands of United fans would be "gutted" and blamed the police and
council's "shambolic" organisation of the Rangers final. Mr Scanlon, who
will be going to the final, said: "All they're doing is punishing their own
people for their own mistakes. It wasn't the people of Manchester's fault
what happened on Wednesday. It was shambolic. "It is all down to their own
mistakes with Rangers which has condemned the United fans out of hand. "If
we win, the only place you will be able to see the cup is at Old Trafford,
but not everyone can be there."

Why do you think the council have decided not to show the Champions League
final on the big screens in the city centre ? Surely if ALL the blame lies
in the hands of Rangers fans then there should be no trouble next week with
the good natured and friendly english fans that would be watching.

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V.O.R.

If you dont believe me, ask me.

"Voice Of Reason" <Voice-Of-Reason@Every-Turn> wrote in message
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>
> Why do you think the council have decided not to show the Champions League
> final on the big screens in the city centre ? Surely if ALL the blame lies
> in the hands of Rangers fans then there should be no trouble next week 
> with
> the good natured and friendly english fans that would be watching.

It would appear that your inference is that GMP are partly to blame for the 
events of Wednesday. Would be interesting to know if it's a common view 
amongst Rangers fans. Can the violence against the police, and general 
mayhem in Manchester city centre be explained/understood, in part, by a 
broke big telly, the cops or no lavvies. Even Donald Findlay wouldn't use 
that defence in court.

In terms of no screens for the Champions League final, it could also be the 
case that GMP are just not going to risk it all happening again. Soccer 
violence is not exclusive to Rangers fans. And the events of this week 
unfortunately mean fans of MUFC will be denied their day in the sun,  GMP 
are not going to take any chances and are going to treat all football 
supporters with cynicism.

Personally I'm kakin' maself I don't get my head kicked in at Old Trafford 
next week by the Barmy Army. Once they hear my Glasgow accent I might be 
starring in my own YouTube video. :)

"liam*"  wrote in message 
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> "Voice Of Reason" <Voice-Of-Reason@Every-Turn> wrote in message
> news:1K-dnUfkHuydn7PVnZ2dnUVZ8sTinZ2d@posted.plusnet...
>>
>> Why do you think the council have decided not to show the Champions 
>> League
>> final on the big screens in the city centre ? Surely if ALL the blame 
>> lies
>> in the hands of Rangers fans then there should be no trouble next week 
>> with
>> the good natured and friendly english fans that would be watching.
>
> It would appear that your inference is that GMP are partly to blame for 
> the events of Wednesday. Would be interesting to know if it's a common 
> view amongst Rangers fans.

I'm not blaming or excusing anyone, all parties are to blame from the police 
to the council to the scum who rioted

 >Can the violence against the police, and general
> mayhem in Manchester city centre be explained/understood, in part, by a 
> broke big telly, the cops or no lavvies.

I think so, if the big screen was working there would be no pissed off scum 
bags trolling the streets looking for trouble

> Even Donald Findlay wouldn't use that defence in court.
>
> In terms of no screens for the Champions League final, it could also be 
> the case that GMP are just not going to risk it all happening again. 
> Soccer violence is not exclusive to Rangers fans.

Although to read some of the posts recently you would think that it is

>And the events of this week unfortunately mean fans of MUFC will be denied 
>their day in the sun,  GMP are not going to take any chances and are going 
>to treat all football supporters with cynicism.

Especially when it comes to english ones

> Personally I'm kakin' maself I don't get my head kicked in at Old Trafford 
> next week by the Barmy Army. Once they hear my Glasgow accent I might be 
> starring in my own YouTube video. :)

Keep yer gob shut then and you'll be fine



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If you dont believe me, ask me.

"Voice Of Reason" <Voice-Of-Reason@Every-Turn> wrote in message 
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> "liam*"  wrote in message 
> news:482e0924$1_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>> "Voice Of Reason" <Voice-Of-Reason@Every-Turn> wrote in message
>> news:1K-dnUfkHuydn7PVnZ2dnUVZ8sTinZ2d@posted.plusnet...
>>>
>>> Why do you think the council have decided not to show the Champions 
>>> League
>>> final on the big screens in the city centre ? Surely if ALL the blame 
>>> lies
>>> in the hands of Rangers fans then there should be no trouble next week 
>>> with
>>> the good natured and friendly english fans that would be watching.
>>
>> It would appear that your inference is that GMP are partly to blame for 
>> the events of Wednesday. Would be interesting to know if it's a common 
>> view amongst Rangers fans.
>
> I'm not blaming or excusing anyone, all parties are to blame from the 
> police to the council to the scum who rioted

Real Radio tonight was abit like: "You know those hooligans were terrible 
and you can't excuse it but....you know.... there were no buses, no 
televisions, no toilets, the police were heavy handed, the TV screen broke, 
the weather was hot, the pounds weak against the euro etcetera 
etcetera.....but not that we are trying to detract from the hooligans."

The solictors will not stand up in court and say "Although my client was 
jumping on the head of a police officer your honour, he was just desperate 
for a pee. Can you let him off please?"

> >Can the violence against the police, and general
>> mayhem in Manchester city centre be explained/understood, in part, by a 
>> broke big telly, the cops or no lavvies.
>
> I think so, if the big screen was working there would be no pissed off 
> scum bags trolling the streets looking for trouble

Well, on Real Radio tonight someone suggested that at one of the screens 
that were working, people were still throwing bottles. Also someone else 
suggested people were doing the bouncey bouncey ontop of vans before the 
matched kicked off and they even knew the match wasn't going to be shown. 
imho I think people are probably clutching at straws saying that the big 
screen can explain the violence. Let's just be clear VOR, you aren't saying 
that it's reasonable to trash a city centre if a big TV screen fails? I 
don't think the screen failure can explain the orgy of violence that we saw. 
There was a large number of hooligans present on Wednesday and they would 
use any excuse for it all to kick off.

"Voice Of Reason" <Voice-Of-Reason@Every-Turn> wrote in message 
news:1K-dnUfkHuydn7PVnZ2dnUVZ8sTinZ2d@posted.plusnet...
>> Why do you think the council have decided not to show the Champions 
>> League
> final on the big screens in the city centre ? Surely if ALL the blame lies
> in the hands of Rangers fans then there should be no trouble next week 
> with
> the good natured and friendly english fans that would be watching.
>

There was absolutely zero trouble in 1999 when the numbers on the streets of 
Manchester dwarfed what was here the other night. There was even Manchester 
City fans out getting a look at the team with our historic treble. All 
passed off 100% peacefully. When will you just admit that your fans both 
fucked up, and fucked it up for the people of Manchester?

I'm actually really pleased now that the Russians beat you and you went home 
empty handed. In some tiny way, justice was done. But even that can never 
make up for how I'll feel should United win the double and I can't celebrate 
in my own city with my own fellow fans, just because of the actions of 
people that have got fuck all to do with me and my fellow United fans.

Thanks, Rangers fans....thanks a fucking bunch.
-- 
Slitheen.
Manchester United - EPL Champions 2006/07 & 2007/08

"liam*"  wrote in message 
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> "Voice Of Reason" <Voice-Of-Reason@Every-Turn> wrote in message 
> news:mI6dnajBX8kxkbPVnZ2dnUVZ8vOdnZ2d@posted.plusnet...
>> "liam*"  wrote in message 
>> news:482e0924$1_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>>> "Voice Of Reason" <Voice-Of-Reason@Every-Turn> wrote in message
>>> news:1K-dnUfkHuydn7PVnZ2dnUVZ8sTinZ2d@posted.plusnet...
>>>>
>>>> Why do you think the council have decided not to show the Champions 
>>>> League
>>>> final on the big screens in the city centre ? Surely if ALL the blame 
>>>> lies
>>>> in the hands of Rangers fans then there should be no trouble next week 
>>>> with
>>>> the good natured and friendly english fans that would be watching.
>>>
>>> It would appear that your inference is that GMP are partly to blame for 
>>> the events of Wednesday. Would be interesting to know if it's a common 
>>> view amongst Rangers fans.
>>
>> I'm not blaming or excusing anyone, all parties are to blame from the 
>> police to the council to the scum who rioted
>
> Real Radio tonight was abit like: "You know those hooligans were terrible 
> and you can't excuse it but....you know.... there were no buses, no 
> televisions, no toilets, the police were heavy handed, the TV screen 
> broke, the weather was hot, the pounds weak against the euro etcetera 
> etcetera.....but not that we are trying to detract from the hooligans."

Exactly, hooligans, not true Rangers football fans/supporters

> The solictors will not stand up in court and say "Although my client was 
> jumping on the head of a police officer your honour, he was just desperate 
> for a pee. Can you let him off please?"

Grow up, have you even listened to the report from the officer that was 
attacked ? he quite plainly said it was his body that was injured, not his 
head. Stop trying to sensationalise things

>> >Can the violence against the police, and general
>>> mayhem in Manchester city centre be explained/understood, in part, by a 
>>> broke big telly, the cops or no lavvies.

 I think so, if the big screen was working there would be no pissed off
 scum bags trolling the streets looking for trouble

> Well, on Real Radio tonight

read Real ENGLISH Radio

>someone suggested

Would that be the Juan Ghuy that hoopsbhoy keeps talking about

 >that at one of the screens that were working, people were still throwing 
bottles.

Funny how the bbc, itv, cnn, sky etc never picked up on that one

> Also someone else suggested people were doing the bouncey bouncey ontop of 
> vans before the matched kicked off

Who was that, would that be the Juan Ghuy that hoopsbhoy keeps talking about 
again ?

>and they even knew the match wasn't going to be shown.

FFS, now the fans are psychic, couldnae make it up. Clutchin at straws ya 
hector

> imho I think people are probably clutching at straws

Aye, YOU

>saying that the big screen can explain the violence. Let's just be clear 
>VOR, you aren't saying that it's reasonable to trash a city centre if a big 
>TV screen fails?

Thats right

>I  don't think the screen failure can explain the orgy of violence that we 
>saw.

I think it goes a long way to explaining why the violence started, but since 
you werent there what gives you the right to judge the events ?

> There was a large number of hooligans present on Wednesday and they would 
> use any excuse for it all to kick off.

EXACTLY, hooligans are NOT football fans regardless of what team they sign 
up to, be it celtic or Rangers. In other words it was the hooligan element 
that caused the troubls, NOT the true Rangers supporters. Not that i would 
expect you to understand that Liam* coz you are quite bitter and resentful


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"Voice Of Reason" <Voice-Of-Reason@Every-Turn> wrote in message 
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> "liam*"  wrote in message 
> news:482e10d5$1_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>
> <snip playing down the violence of thousands of hooligan Rangers fans>
>

No you are right VOR. I don't understand you. And I don't understand the 
thousands of Rangers hooligans that caused a large scale riot in Manchester 
city centre either. 15 police officers were injured, 52 people were 
assaulted. They were described as a
"pack of wild wolves" by a senior police woman. The Prime Minister came out 
and described the violence as a "disgrace." This  is a complete 
embarrassment not only for Rangers FC and their fans, but for Glasgow and 
Scotland. The whole of the world saw what kind of mindless thugs are 
associated with Rangers. Sounds like you have some sympathy with the 
hooligans. A night of shame for Rangers is perpetuated by all the weak 
excuses that will come out for these animals. There is no no excuse for this 
violence, none whatsoever.

"liam*"  wrote in message 
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> "Voice Of Reason" <Voice-Of-Reason@Every-Turn> wrote in message 
> news:xJOdnXf0ZIdkrbPVRVnyuQA@posted.plusnet...
>> "liam*"  wrote in message 
>> news:482e10d5$1_4@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>>
>> <snip playing down the violence of thousands of hooligan Rangers fans>
>>
>
> No you are right VOR. I don't understand you. And I don't understand the 
> thousands of Rangers hooligans that caused a large scale riot in 
> Manchester city centre either. 15 police officers were injured, 52 people 
> were assaulted. They were described as a
> "pack of wild wolves" by a senior police woman. The Prime Minister came 
> out and described the violence as a "disgrace." This  is a complete 
> embarrassment not only for Rangers FC and their fans, but for Glasgow and 
> Scotland. The whole of the world saw what kind of mindless thugs are 
> associated with Rangers. Sounds like you have some sympathy with the 
> hooligans. A night of shame for Rangers is perpetuated by all the weak 
> excuses that will come out for these animals. There is no no excuse for 
> this violence, none whatsoever.
>



Here here!
-- 
Slitheen.
Manchester United - EPL Champions 2006/07 & 2007/08