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date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:33:58 +0100,    group: uk.sport.football.clubs.rangers        back       
Re: Moving the goal posts...   
"Jim Mason"  wrote in message 
news:MPG.227805bad1085d59896de@news.individual.net...


> The fact Rangers lost the Euro  tie 3-0 is totally irrelevant.


If  JCD hadn't missed that sitter at 0-1 we would likely have progressed to 
the last 16 of the CL and would (almost certainly) be out of Europe by now. 
As it worked out that defeat has partly led to the current fixture pile up. 
Funny how things work out.
date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:33:58 +0100   author:   Angof

Re: Moving the goal posts...   
In article <O6CdnSjdDZ7FapDVnZ2dnUVZ8ternZ2d@plusnet>, fager1@yahoo.co.uk 
says...
> 
> "Jim Mason"  wrote in message 
> news:MPG.227805bad1085d59896de@news.individual.net...
> 
> 
> > The fact Rangers lost the Euro  tie 3-0 is totally irrelevant.
> 
> 
> If  JCD hadn't missed that sitter at 0-1 we would likely have progressed to 
> the last 16 of the CL and would (almost certainly) be out of Europe by now. 
> As it worked out that defeat has partly led to the current fixture pile up. 
> Funny how things work out. 

And the subsequent extension has to be for the good of Scottish football I 
would have thought?

Jim
date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:37:20 +0100   author:   Jim Mason

Re: Moving the goal posts...   
"Jim Mason"  wrote in message 
news:MPG.22780879309533e19896e0@news.individual.net...
> In article <O6CdnSjdDZ7FapDVnZ2dnUVZ8ternZ2d@plusnet>, fager1@yahoo.co.uk
> says...
>>
>> "Jim Mason"  wrote in message
>> news:MPG.227805bad1085d59896de@news.individual.net...
>>
>>
>> > The fact Rangers lost the Euro  tie 3-0 is totally irrelevant.
>>
>>
>> If  JCD hadn't missed that sitter at 0-1 we would likely have progressed 
>> to
>> the last 16 of the CL and would (almost certainly) be out of Europe by 
>> now.
>> As it worked out that defeat has partly led to the current fixture pile 
>> up.
>> Funny how things work out.
>
> And the subsequent extension has to be for the good of Scottish football I
> would have thought?
>
> Jim

It was the sensible decision but I have the feeling it wont be required. 
Hope I'm wrong.
date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:44:17 +0100   author:   Angof

Re: Moving the goal posts...   
In article <-u6dne8ptOFeZJDVnZ2dnUVZ8vednZ2d@plusnet>, fager1@yahoo.co.uk 
says...
> 
> "Jim Mason"  wrote in message 
> news:MPG.22780879309533e19896e0@news.individual.net...
> > In article <O6CdnSjdDZ7FapDVnZ2dnUVZ8ternZ2d@plusnet>, fager1@yahoo.co.uk
> > says...
> >>
> >> "Jim Mason"  wrote in message
> >> news:MPG.227805bad1085d59896de@news.individual.net...
> >>
> >>
> >> > The fact Rangers lost the Euro  tie 3-0 is totally irrelevant.
> >>
> >>
> >> If  JCD hadn't missed that sitter at 0-1 we would likely have progressed 
> >> to
> >> the last 16 of the CL and would (almost certainly) be out of Europe by 
> >> now.
> >> As it worked out that defeat has partly led to the current fixture pile 
> >> up.
> >> Funny how things work out.
> >
> > And the subsequent extension has to be for the good of Scottish football I
> > would have thought?
> >
> > Jim
> 
> It was the sensible decision but I have the feeling it wont be required. 

Do you think if it isn't required that the final fixtures shouldn't be 
played?
date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:46:48 +0100   author:   Jim Mason

Re: Moving the goal posts...   
"Jim Mason"  wrote in message 
news:MPG.22780ab46d50a9aa9896e1@news.individual.net...
> In article <-u6dne8ptOFeZJDVnZ2dnUVZ8vednZ2d@plusnet>, fager1@yahoo.co.uk
> says...
>>
>> "Jim Mason"  wrote in message
>> news:MPG.22780879309533e19896e0@news.individual.net...
>> > In article <O6CdnSjdDZ7FapDVnZ2dnUVZ8ternZ2d@plusnet>, 
>> > fager1@yahoo.co.uk
>> > says...
>> >>
>> >> "Jim Mason"  wrote in message
>> >> news:MPG.227805bad1085d59896de@news.individual.net...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > The fact Rangers lost the Euro  tie 3-0 is totally irrelevant.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> If  JCD hadn't missed that sitter at 0-1 we would likely have 
>> >> progressed
>> >> to
>> >> the last 16 of the CL and would (almost certainly) be out of Europe by
>> >> now.
>> >> As it worked out that defeat has partly led to the current fixture 
>> >> pile
>> >> up.
>> >> Funny how things work out.
>> >
>> > And the subsequent extension has to be for the good of Scottish 
>> > football I
>> > would have thought?
>> >
>> > Jim
>>
>> It was the sensible decision but I have the feeling it wont be required.
>
> Do you think if it isn't required that the final fixtures shouldn't be
> played?


I mean I don't fancy Rangers getting past Fiorentina...can only hope they 
surprise me again.
date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:49:56 +0100   author:   Angof

Re: Moving the goal posts...   
In article <44idnUmNy9SLZpDVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@plusnet>, fager1@yahoo.co.uk 
says...
> 
> "Jim Mason"  wrote in message 
> news:MPG.22780ab46d50a9aa9896e1@news.individual.net...
> > In article <-u6dne8ptOFeZJDVnZ2dnUVZ8vednZ2d@plusnet>, fager1@yahoo.co.uk
> > says...
> >>
> >> "Jim Mason"  wrote in message
> >> news:MPG.22780879309533e19896e0@news.individual.net...
> >> > In article <O6CdnSjdDZ7FapDVnZ2dnUVZ8ternZ2d@plusnet>, 
> >> > fager1@yahoo.co.uk
> >> > says...
> >> >>
> >> >> "Jim Mason"  wrote in message
> >> >> news:MPG.227805bad1085d59896de@news.individual.net...
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > The fact Rangers lost the Euro  tie 3-0 is totally irrelevant.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> If  JCD hadn't missed that sitter at 0-1 we would likely have 
> >> >> progressed
> >> >> to
> >> >> the last 16 of the CL and would (almost certainly) be out of Europe by
> >> >> now.
> >> >> As it worked out that defeat has partly led to the current fixture 
> >> >> pile
> >> >> up.
> >> >> Funny how things work out.
> >> >
> >> > And the subsequent extension has to be for the good of Scottish 
> >> > football I
> >> > would have thought?
> >> >
> >> > Jim
> >>
> >> It was the sensible decision but I have the feeling it wont be required.
> >
> > Do you think if it isn't required that the final fixtures shouldn't be
> > played?
> 
> 
> I mean I don't fancy Rangers getting past Fiorentina...can only hope they 
> surprise me again. 

I hope for the benefit of Scottish football they progress and win the UEFA 
Cup. But to be honest they will have to raise their game to a level they 
have never achieved yet this season.
date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:55:01 +0100   author:   Jim Mason

Re: Moving the goal posts...   
"Jim Mason"  wrote in message 
news:MPG.22780ca1fea09a709896e3@news.individual.net...
> In article <44idnUmNy9SLZpDVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@plusnet>, fager1@yahoo.co.uk
> says...
>>
>> "Jim Mason"  wrote in message
>> news:MPG.22780ab46d50a9aa9896e1@news.individual.net...
>> > In article <-u6dne8ptOFeZJDVnZ2dnUVZ8vednZ2d@plusnet>, 
>> > fager1@yahoo.co.uk
>> > says...
>> >>
>> >> "Jim Mason"  wrote in message
>> >> news:MPG.22780879309533e19896e0@news.individual.net...
>> >> > In article <O6CdnSjdDZ7FapDVnZ2dnUVZ8ternZ2d@plusnet>,
>> >> > fager1@yahoo.co.uk
>> >> > says...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Jim Mason"  wrote in message
>> >> >> news:MPG.227805bad1085d59896de@news.individual.net...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > The fact Rangers lost the Euro  tie 3-0 is totally irrelevant.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If  JCD hadn't missed that sitter at 0-1 we would likely have
>> >> >> progressed
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> the last 16 of the CL and would (almost certainly) be out of Europe 
>> >> >> by
>> >> >> now.
>> >> >> As it worked out that defeat has partly led to the current fixture
>> >> >> pile
>> >> >> up.
>> >> >> Funny how things work out.
>> >> >
>> >> > And the subsequent extension has to be for the good of Scottish
>> >> > football I
>> >> > would have thought?
>> >> >
>> >> > Jim
>> >>
>> >> It was the sensible decision but I have the feeling it wont be 
>> >> required.
>> >
>> > Do you think if it isn't required that the final fixtures shouldn't be
>> > played?
>>
>>
>> I mean I don't fancy Rangers getting past Fiorentina...can only hope they
>> surprise me again.
>
> I hope for the benefit of Scottish football they progress and win the UEFA
> Cup. But to be honest they will have to raise their game to a level they
> have never achieved yet this season.

This century, more like.
date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 22:26:51 +0100   author:   FishSupper

Re: Moving the goal posts...   
"Mad Max"  wrote in message 
news:15afa97d-c9df-43f9-aad8-9a20cdcc6fc4@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
On 22 Apr, 15:49, "Angof"  wrote:
> "Jim Mason"  wrote in message
>
> news:MPG.22780ab46d50a9aa9896e1@news.individual.net...
>
>
>
> > In article <-u6dne8ptOFeZJDVnZ2dnUVZ8vednZ2d@plusnet>, 
> > fag...@yahoo.co.uk
> > says...
>
> >> "Jim Mason"  wrote in message
> >>news:MPG.22780879309533e19896e0@news.individual.net...
> >> > In article <O6CdnSjdDZ7FapDVnZ2dnUVZ8ternZ2d@plusnet>,
> >> > fag...@yahoo.co.uk
> >> > says...
>
> >> >> "Jim Mason"  wrote in message
> >> >>news:MPG.227805bad1085d59896de@news.individual.net...
>
> >> >> > The fact Rangers lost the Euro tie 3-0 is totally irrelevant.
>
> >> >> If JCD hadn't missed that sitter at 0-1 we would likely have
> >> >> progressed
> >> >> to
> >> >> the last 16 of the CL and would (almost certainly) be out of Europe 
> >> >> by
> >> >> now.
> >> >> As it worked out that defeat has partly led to the current fixture
> >> >> pile
> >> >> up.
> >> >> Funny how things work out.
>
> >> > And the subsequent extension has to be for the good of Scottish
> >> > football I
> >> > would have thought?
>
> >> > Jim
>
> >> It was the sensible decision but I have the feeling it wont be 
> >> required.
>
> > Do you think if it isn't required that the final fixtures shouldn't be
> > played?
>
> I mean I don't fancy Rangers getting past Fiorentina...can only hope they
> surprise me again.

> Sure you do 5o)

What's that Einstein?
date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:01:58 +0100   author:   Angof

Re: Moving the goal posts...   
"Mad Max"  wrote in message 
news:f299620c-5768-4b7d-8bb7-bb9c2415709d@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On 23 Apr, 11:01, "Angof"  wrote:
>
>> > I mean I don't fancy Rangers getting past Fiorentina...can only hope 
>> > they
>> > surprise me again.
>> > Sure you do 5o)
>>
>> What's that Einstein?
>
> Ok Angof, deep down you know we will, but to quieten the rabid ones
> you would revert back to this post if you had too.
>

No,  deep down I know the Italians are favorites to beat us...then again so 
were the Greeks, Germans and Portuguese.
date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:37:16 +0100   author:   Angof

Re: Moving the goal posts...   
"Chuckles McGuigan"  wrote in message 
news:a5b1979d-6a34-495b-bed1-bfb3e983438b@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
On 24 Apr, 14:37, "Angof"  wrote:

> > Ok Angof, deep down you know we will, but to quieten the rabid ones
> > you would revert back to this post if you had too.
>
> No, deep down I know the Italians are favorites to beat us...then again so
> were the Greeks, Germans and Portuguese.

> So how you thinking now :-)

A little more confident if anything.  With having such a weak side out last 
night I was a bit worried it might be similar to 1961 and the tie all but 
over after the first leg . We have played better away from home as well in 
this situation, so a it's not beyond the realms of possibility that we could 
sneak through.  They are still strong favorites though.
date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:18:58 +0100   author:   Angof

Re: Moving the goal posts...   
"Mad Max"  wrote in message 
news:568e7aa1-83c3-4322-89c2-d27a1e4a2aa5@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On 25 Apr, 11:18, "Angof"  wrote:

>
> A little more confident if anything. With having such a weak side out last
> night I was a bit worried it might be similar to 1961 and the tie all but
> over after the first leg . We have played better away from home as well in
> this situation, so a it's not beyond the realms of possibility that we 
> could
> sneak through. They are still strong favorites though.

>> 1961 before my time 5-)

Mine too.  I was only saying yesterday that I've never even seen any footage 
of that final, which seems odd.  Surely the cameras would have been there?
date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:58:24 +0100   author:   Angof

Re: Moving the goal posts...   
"Mad Max"  wrote in message 
news:568e7aa1-83c3-4322-89c2-d27a1e4a2aa5@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On 25 Apr, 11:18, "Angof"  wrote:

>
> A little more confident if anything. With having such a weak side out last
> night I was a bit worried it might be similar to 1961 and the tie all but
> over after the first leg . We have played better away from home as well in
> this situation, so a it's not beyond the realms of possibility that we 
> could
> sneak through. They are still strong favorites though.

1961 before my time 5-) i think we can do it, team wil be stronger
next week everything being ok after we get kicked off the park come
sunday.

Time to become legends, lets make this year a year they wont forget.

Ive still to hear someone mention the consolation cup,during and after 
Celtic`s run that was all we heard now look at youse foamin at the mouth
date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:21:17 GMT   author:   sepang

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