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date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:47:55 -0000,
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WC Qualifiers Draw Seeding Pots
Pot 1:
Italy
Spain
Germany
Czech Republic
France
Portugal
Holland
Croatia
Greece
Pot 2:
England
Romania
Scotland
Turkey
Bulgaria
Sweden
Russia
Poland
Israel
Pot 3:
Serbia
Norway
Ukraine
Denmark
N. Ireland
Republic of Ireland
Finland
Switzerland
Slovakia
Pot 4:
Belgium
Hungary
Bosnia/Herzegovina
Moldova
Wales
FYROM
Belarus
Lithuania
Cyprus
Pot 5:
Georgia
Albania
Slovenia
Latvia
Iceland
Armenia
Austria
Kazakhstan
Lichtenstein
Pot 6:
Azerbaijan
Estonia
Malta
Luxembourg
Montenegro
Andorra
Faroe Islands
San Marino
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date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 13:47:55 -0000
author: \\?`?.?biz?.???/
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Re: WC Qualifiers Draw Seeding Pots
" \¯`·.¸biz¸.·´¯/" wrote in message
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> Pot 1:
> Italy
> Spain
> Germany
> Czech Republic
> France
> Portugal
> Holland
> Croatia
> Greece
>
> Pot 2:
> England
> Romania
> Scotland
> Turkey
> Bulgaria
> Sweden
> Russia
> Poland
> Israel
>
> Pot 3:
> Serbia
> Norway
> Ukraine
> Denmark
> N. Ireland
> Republic of Ireland
> Finland
> Switzerland
> Slovakia
>
> Pot 4:
> Belgium
> Hungary
> Bosnia/Herzegovina
> Moldova
> Wales
> FYROM
> Belarus
> Lithuania
> Cyprus
>
> Pot 5:
> Georgia
> Albania
> Slovenia
> Latvia
> Iceland
> Armenia
> Austria
> Kazakhstan
> Lichtenstein
>
> Pot 6:
> Azerbaijan
> Estonia
> Malta
> Luxembourg
> Montenegro
> Andorra
> Faroe Islands
> San Marino
>
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> www.myspace.com/bizenya
> If someone with multiple personalities threatens to kill himself, is it
> considered a hostage situation?
Who do we want then?
date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:06:23 -0000
author: louisxiv
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Re: WC Qualifiers Draw Seeding Pots
Good Draw - Croatia
Switzerland
Moldova
Lichtenstein
Andorra
Bad Draw - Italy
Ukraine
Bosnia
Kazakhstan
Azerbaijan
To be brutally honest I can see us qualifying from either group with no
bother
Thoughts ?
"louisxiv" wrote in message
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> " \¯`·.¸biz¸.·´¯/" wrote in message
> news:yvadnTkfx54RFdjaRVnyvQA@bt.com...
>> Pot 1:
>> Italy
>> Spain
>> Germany
>> Czech Republic
>> France
>> Portugal
>> Holland
>> Croatia
>> Greece
>>
>> Pot 2:
>> England
>> Romania
>> Scotland
>> Turkey
>> Bulgaria
>> Sweden
>> Russia
>> Poland
>> Israel
>>
>> Pot 3:
>> Serbia
>> Norway
>> Ukraine
>> Denmark
>> N. Ireland
>> Republic of Ireland
>> Finland
>> Switzerland
>> Slovakia
>>
>> Pot 4:
>> Belgium
>> Hungary
>> Bosnia/Herzegovina
>> Moldova
>> Wales
>> FYROM
>> Belarus
>> Lithuania
>> Cyprus
>>
>> Pot 5:
>> Georgia
>> Albania
>> Slovenia
>> Latvia
>> Iceland
>> Armenia
>> Austria
>> Kazakhstan
>> Lichtenstein
>>
>> Pot 6:
>> Azerbaijan
>> Estonia
>> Malta
>> Luxembourg
>> Montenegro
>> Andorra
>> Faroe Islands
>> San Marino
>>
>> --
>> www.bebo.com/bizenya79
>> www.myspace.com/bizenya
>> If someone with multiple personalities threatens to kill himself, is it
>> considered a hostage situation?
> Who do we want then?
>
date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:24:27 -0000
author: Jimbo
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Re: WC Qualifiers Draw Seeding Pots
A nice group would be:
Greece
Scotland
Slovakia
Moldova
Lichtenstein
Andorra
Just to show the other extreme, a nightmare group would be:
Italy
Scotland
Denmark
Belgium
Austria
Malta
"louisxiv" wrote
> Who do we want then?
> " \¯`·.¸biz¸.·´¯/" wrote in message
>> Pot 1:
>> Italy
>> Spain
>> Germany
>> Czech Republic
>> France
>> Portugal
>> Holland
>> Croatia
>> Greece
>>
>> Pot 2:
>> England
>> Romania
>> Scotland
>> Turkey
>> Bulgaria
>> Sweden
>> Russia
>> Poland
>> Israel
>>
>> Pot 3:
>> Serbia
>> Norway
>> Ukraine
>> Denmark
>> N. Ireland
>> Republic of Ireland
>> Finland
>> Switzerland
>> Slovakia
>>
>> Pot 4:
>> Belgium
>> Hungary
>> Bosnia/Herzegovina
>> Moldova
>> Wales
>> FYROM
>> Belarus
>> Lithuania
>> Cyprus
>>
>> Pot 5:
>> Georgia
>> Albania
>> Slovenia
>> Latvia
>> Iceland
>> Armenia
>> Austria
>> Kazakhstan
>> Lichtenstein
>>
>> Pot 6:
>> Azerbaijan
>> Estonia
>> Malta
>> Luxembourg
>> Montenegro
>> Andorra
>> Faroe Islands
>> San Marino
date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:29:08 GMT
author: Stevio
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Re: WC Qualifiers Draw Seeding Pots
"Jimbo" wrote in message
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>
> Good Draw - Croatia
> Switzerland
> Moldova
> Lichtenstein
> Andorra
>
> Bad Draw - Italy
> Ukraine
> Bosnia
> Kazakhstan
> Azerbaijan
>
> To be brutally honest I can see us qualifying from either group with no
> bother
>
> Thoughts ?
>
I think we have to careful not to develop the English disease..
date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:50:12 -0000
author: louisxiv
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Re: WC Qualifiers Draw Seeding Pots
"Jimbo" wrote
> Good Draw - Croatia
> Switzerland
> Moldova
> Lichtenstein
> Andorra
After watching Croatia last night, I think we should avoid them, they are
quality. Swap Greece and Slovakia for Croatia and Switzerland and I think
that is about as good as it could get.
> Bad Draw - Italy
> Ukraine
> Bosnia
> Kazakhstan
> Azerbaijan
I think we can get much worse than this. My bad group would be: Italy,
Scotland, Denmark, Belgium, Austria, Malta.
Belgium as 4th seeds and Austria as 5th seeds are the obvious ones you want
to avoid!
> To be brutally honest I can see us qualifying from either group with no
> bother
It is not as simple as you might think. Only the top team goes through
automatically! There are eight groups of six teams and one group of five
teams. The nine group winners will qualify automatically for the 2010 finals
with the eight best runners-up going into two-legged play-offs for the
remaining four places.
In a play off you could end up facing someone as good as the Netherlands as
we know.
date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 14:55:46 GMT
author: Stevio
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Re: WC Qualifiers Draw Seeding Pots
"Stevio" wrote in message
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> "Jimbo" wrote
>> Good Draw - Croatia
>> Switzerland
>> Moldova
>> Lichtenstein
>> Andorra
>
> After watching Croatia last night, I think we should avoid them, they are
> quality. Swap Greece
Greece got the most points of any team in Euro 2008 qualifiers you know...
date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:59:02 -0000
author: Moody Marco
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Re: WC Qualifiers Draw Seeding Pots
"Stevio" wrote in message
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>A nice group would be:
> Greece
> Scotland
> Slovakia
> Moldova
> Lichtenstein
> Andorra
>
> Just to show the other extreme, a nightmare group would be:
> Italy
> Scotland
> Denmark
> Belgium
> Austria
>
IMO the nightmare pot 1 team for us is France. If we get them, boy will
they want revenge
date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:00:09 -0000
author: Moody Marco
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Re: WC Qualifiers Draw Seeding Pots
>> After watching Croatia last night, I think we should avoid them, they are
>> quality. Swap Greece
>
> Greece got the most points of any team in Euro 2008 qualifiers you know...
Fair dues, I never realised that. However, I just had a look at the other
groups and the records of all the top seeds, and you have to admit that
Greece had the easiest group. Going on the qualifiers just completed, the
top seeds you might want are France (26pts), Germany (27), Netherlands (26),
Portugal (27). All of these teams qualified in 2nd place.
I don't want France again, we've beaten them twice and it might be asking a
bit much for a third victory.
Something I would like to see is a bit more loyalty to the Scotland job. If
you compare us with England, I can't remember an England manager leaving to
take a top club job. McLaren had to be sacked to get rid of him. McLeish
should at least stay until the end of the World Cup campaign, despite what
offers come his way. Agree/disagree?
date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:09:50 GMT
author: Stevio
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Re: WC Qualifiers Draw Seeding Pots
louisxiv wrote:
> "Jimbo" wrote in message
> news:4745913f$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>>
>>
>> Good Draw - Croatia
>> Switzerland
>> Moldova
>> Lichtenstein
>> Andorra
>>
>> Bad Draw - Italy
>> Ukraine
>> Bosnia
>> Kazakhstan
>> Azerbaijan
>>
>> To be brutally honest I can see us qualifying from either group with
>> no bother
>>
>> Thoughts ?
>>
>
> I think we have to careful not to develop the English disease..
Agreed. We are still woefully short of quality in the squad.
date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:15:18 -0000
author: Angof (no need for Mail)
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Re: WC Qualifiers Draw Seeding Pots
"Stevio" wrote in message
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>>> After watching Croatia last night, I think we should avoid them, they
>>> are quality. Swap Greece
>>
>> Greece got the most points of any team in Euro 2008 qualifiers you
>> know...
>
> Fair dues, I never realised that. However, I just had a look at the other
> groups and the records of all the top seeds, and you have to admit that
> Greece had the easiest group. Going on the qualifiers just completed, the
> top seeds you might want are France (26pts), Germany (27), Netherlands
> (26), Portugal (27). All of these teams qualified in 2nd place.
>
Yes, and Portugal played 2 more games than the rest
> I don't want France again, we've beaten them twice and it might be asking
> a bit much for a third victory.
>
> Something I would like to see is a bit more loyalty to the Scotland job.
> If you compare us with England, I can't remember an England manager
> leaving to take a top club job. McLaren had to be sacked to get rid of
> him. McLeish should at least stay until the end of the World Cup campaign,
> despite what offers come his way. Agree/disagree?
>
Agree, but I can understand why a relatively young manager might not want to
hang about till September for his next competitive game
date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 19:36:14 -0000
author: Moody Marco
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Re: WC Qualifiers Draw Seeding Pots
"Moody Marco" wrote in message
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> "Stevio" wrote in message
> news:Umg1j.28490$6v.14951@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>>A nice group would be:
>> Greece
>> Scotland
>> Slovakia
>> Moldova
>> Lichtenstein
>> Andorra
>>
>> Just to show the other extreme, a nightmare group would be:
>> Italy
>> Scotland
>> Denmark
>> Belgium
>> Austria
>>
>
> IMO the nightmare pot 1 team for us is France. If we get them, boy will
> they want revenge
If we beat them again do we get to keep them? lol
date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 20:35:21 GMT
author: Keith
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Re: WC Qualifiers Draw Seeding Pots
"Moody Marco" wrote in message
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> "Stevio" wrote in message
> news:OBj1j.30198$dN2.24702@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>>> After watching Croatia last night, I think we should avoid them, they
>>>> are quality. Swap Greece
>>>
>>> Greece got the most points of any team in Euro 2008 qualifiers you
>>> know...
>>
>> Fair dues, I never realised that. However, I just had a look at the other
>> groups and the records of all the top seeds, and you have to admit that
>> Greece had the easiest group. Going on the qualifiers just completed, the
>> top seeds you might want are France (26pts), Germany (27), Netherlands
>> (26), Portugal (27). All of these teams qualified in 2nd place.
>>
>
> Yes, and Portugal played 2 more games than the rest
>
>> I don't want France again, we've beaten them twice and it might be asking
>> a bit much for a third victory.
>>
>> Something I would like to see is a bit more loyalty to the Scotland job.
>> If you compare us with England, I can't remember an England manager
>> leaving to take a top club job. McLaren had to be sacked to get rid of
>> him. McLeish should at least stay until the end of the World Cup
>> campaign, despite what offers come his way. Agree/disagree?
>>
>
> Agree, but I can understand why a relatively young manager might not want
> to hang about till September for his next competitive game
/signed
we really need to tie him down.. there just isnt any other acceptable
managers out there who WOULD take the job (unless we are becoming a nicer
prospect to manage to higher profile managers) but I jus cant see
Capello(sp) saying he'd jump at the chance to manage us.... and (no
offence) but id hate to see someone like Jim Jeffries get the job
date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 20:38:03 GMT
author: Keith
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Re: WC Qualifiers Draw Seeding Pots
"Angof" <Mailfalger1@yahoo.co.uk(no need for Mail)> wrote in message
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> louisxiv wrote:
>> "Jimbo" wrote in message
>> news:4745913f$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> Good Draw - Croatia
>>> Switzerland
>>> Moldova
>>> Lichtenstein
>>> Andorra
>>>
>>> Bad Draw - Italy
>>> Ukraine
>>> Bosnia
>>> Kazakhstan
>>> Azerbaijan
>>>
>>> To be brutally honest I can see us qualifying from either group with
>>> no bother
>>>
>>> Thoughts ?
>>>
>>
>> I think we have to careful not to develop the English disease..
>
> Agreed. We are still woefully short of quality in the squad.
>
>
>
Agreed.. altho Croatia would be a frightning prospect to play against...
date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 20:38:53 GMT
author: Keith
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Re: WC Qualifiers Draw Seeding Pots
Malta? we shud pump them with our B team
dunno if id like to play in Greece's group.. theyd be stiff comp
"Stevio" wrote in message
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>A nice group would be:
> Greece
> Scotland
> Slovakia
> Moldova
> Lichtenstein
> Andorra
>
> Just to show the other extreme, a nightmare group would be:
> Italy
> Scotland
> Denmark
> Belgium
> Austria
> Malta
>
> "louisxiv" wrote
>> Who do we want then?
>
>> " \¯`·.¸biz¸.·´¯/" wrote in message
>>> Pot 1:
>>> Italy
>>> Spain
>>> Germany
>>> Czech Republic
>>> France
>>> Portugal
>>> Holland
>>> Croatia
>>> Greece
>>>
>>> Pot 2:
>>> England
>>> Romania
>>> Scotland
>>> Turkey
>>> Bulgaria
>>> Sweden
>>> Russia
>>> Poland
>>> Israel
>>>
>>> Pot 3:
>>> Serbia
>>> Norway
>>> Ukraine
>>> Denmark
>>> N. Ireland
>>> Republic of Ireland
>>> Finland
>>> Switzerland
>>> Slovakia
>>>
>>> Pot 4:
>>> Belgium
>>> Hungary
>>> Bosnia/Herzegovina
>>> Moldova
>>> Wales
>>> FYROM
>>> Belarus
>>> Lithuania
>>> Cyprus
>>>
>>> Pot 5:
>>> Georgia
>>> Albania
>>> Slovenia
>>> Latvia
>>> Iceland
>>> Armenia
>>> Austria
>>> Kazakhstan
>>> Lichtenstein
>>>
>>> Pot 6:
>>> Azerbaijan
>>> Estonia
>>> Malta
>>> Luxembourg
>>> Montenegro
>>> Andorra
>>> Faroe Islands
>>> San Marino
>
>
date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 20:39:52 GMT
author: Keith
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Re: WC Qualifiers Draw Seeding Pots
"Keith" wrote in message
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> "Angof" <Mailfalger1@yahoo.co.uk(no need for Mail)> wrote in message
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>> louisxiv wrote:
>>> "Jimbo" wrote in message
>>> news:4745913f$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good Draw - Croatia
>>>> Switzerland
>>>> Moldova
>>>> Lichtenstein
>>>> Andorra
>>>>
>>>> Bad Draw - Italy
>>>> Ukraine
>>>> Bosnia
>>>> Kazakhstan
>>>> Azerbaijan
>>>>
>>>> To be brutally honest I can see us qualifying from either group with
>>>> no bother
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think we have to careful not to develop the English disease..
>>
>> Agreed. We are still woefully short of quality in the squad.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Agreed.. altho Croatia would be a frightning prospect to play against...
>
Agreed, as bad as England were, Croatia are a top, top side
date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 20:51:41 -0000
author: Moody Marco
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Re: WC Qualifiers Draw Seeding Pots
"Moody Marco" wrote
>
> "Keith" wrote in message
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>> "Angof" <Mailfalger1@yahoo.co.uk(no need for Mail)> wrote in message
>> news:13kbhpkaqlncpb3@corp.supernews.com...
>>> louisxiv wrote:
>>>> "Jimbo" wrote in message
>>>> news:4745913f$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Good Draw - Croatia
>>>>> Switzerland
>>>>> Moldova
>>>>> Lichtenstein
>>>>> Andorra
>>>>>
>>>>> Bad Draw - Italy
>>>>> Ukraine
>>>>> Bosnia
>>>>> Kazakhstan
>>>>> Azerbaijan
>>>>>
>>>>> To be brutally honest I can see us qualifying from either group with
>>>>> no bother
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts ?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think we have to careful not to develop the English disease..
>>>
>>> Agreed. We are still woefully short of quality in the squad.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Agreed.. altho Croatia would be a frightning prospect to play against...
>>
>
> Agreed, as bad as England were, Croatia are a top, top side
TBH I really enjoyed last night's game. I honestly wasn't that desperate for
England to get pumped. But the way Croatia played, their attacking style,
ease on the ball and wonderful goals, you couldn't but wish them well. I'm
glad Mark Lawrenson occassionally tried to emphasize Croatia's qualitities.
date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 21:10:02 -0000
author: liam
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